Naruto and Flying Thunder God Technique??? Will he ever learn it??

[stasplaya44]

Just like the title says, do you think Naruto will ever learn his father's other technique.... Flying Thunder God Technique???

[<3Matsumoto<3]

I hope so, would be cool if he did:)

[gu7689]

By flying thunder god do you mean yellow flash. If so yes He needs to learn it if he ever hopes of to keep up with sasuke, and the akatsuki.

[Freedan]

I've never seen it done but it sounds cool. I'm actually hoping Naruto will learn the Shunshin like his father did, and Naruto already surpassed his father's Rasengan.

[stasplaya44]

If Naruto could learn this skill he could form his spiral shuriken and then have his shadow clones place the seals and then he would be able to get behind his enemy in a flash, literally.

[Uchiha_Sasuke_Sama]

i hope he will learn it!
naruto is very week!

[teyoto717]

It would be pretty cool if he did, but I don't think he can. There nobody to teach him. The only known user of the technique was Minato, and he's dead. So unless Naruto can pull some huge feat of geniusness and recreate the jutsu, it's impossible.

[lokoman]

well kakashi was his studen and he had the sharingan befor minato died so he might by any chance could have copied it, so if he did copy it then he could teach it to naruto it will really help him improve

[teyoto717]

well kakashi was his studen and he had the sharingan befor minato died so he might by any chance could have copied it, so if he did copy it then he could teach it to naruto it will really help him improve

good point, but if Kakashi had that technique availible to him, he definetly would have used it prior to now in some of his harder battles (eg Itachi).

[Tank]

I don't know. Kakashi never used the Rasengan in any of his battles. He could be doing the same with the Body Flicker.

Right now Naruto just needs to concentrate on his Wind element. Though in the future he might it.

[lokoman]

I don't know. Kakashi never used the Rasengan in any of his battles. He could be doing the same with the Body Flicker.

exactly what i wanted to say, kakashi lacks chakra and using the shaingan to execute a normal copied jutsu tack a lot out of him imagin if he is trying to copy an S class ninjutsu, that might make him black out after the first attack.

[Tank]

Kakashi doesn't lack chakra at all. Naruto just has an impossibly huge amount. But there's a chance that Kakashi doesn't use the Body Flicker because it takes too much out of him like you said. I bet he could take out anybody, but sleep for about a week afterwards due to the chakra consumption. Sharingan + Body Flicker + Rasengan = Complete Pwnage.

[Asakujaku]

It'd be cool if he learned it, but there is no one that we know of besides the 4th who can do the Hiraishin no jutsu.

[M1gug3l]

well kakashi might know it
so it looks like a possibility

[Oser]

Or...Naruto will get frustrated at his lack of speed and figure it out for himself. Certainly, if the 4th made it up, then Naruto has the potential to as well. Perhaps he'll devise it mid-battle as a more effective way to use his rasengan techniques. He'll probably call it something lame like "The Naruto Super Fast Running no Jutsu."

[lokoman]

. He'll probably call it something lame like "The Naruto Super Fast Running no Jutsu."
:rofl:: thats typical naruto :amused:

[Freedan]

Or...Naruto will get frustrated at his lack of speed and figure it out for himself. Certainly, if the 4th made it up, then Naruto has the potential to as well. Perhaps he'll devise it mid-battle as a more effective way to use his rasengan techniques. He'll probably call it something lame like "The Naruto Super Fast Running no Jutsu."

I somewhat doubt that will happen. Judging from Jiraya's conversation, Naruto doesn't seem to have the same sort of cleverness as his father. He described Minato as a model student, someone who was basically perfect from every aspect. Naruto is anything but that, and Jiraya himself thought it would be more interesting to teach someone who wasn't perfect and that's why he trained Naruto. Jiraya also said that if Naruto trained and worked alone, the best he could do was meke perverted ninjutsu.

[AzureFeatherfly]

I just want to clear something up.

Hirashin no jutsu = Flying Thunder God
Shunshin no jutsu = Body Flicker

Shunshin =/= Hirashin

Most Jounins like Kakashi, Gai, Genma, Raidou can perform the Shunshin.
Shunshin is actually so easy so Genins like Shino and Sasuke were able to perform it.

Hirashin has only been used by Minato. This is a jutsu that enables him to kill mutiple enemies in a second. Literally a "One Man Army." Minato is also excellent in Shunshin.

As for Kakashi and the Hirashin, I do not think the jutsu was slow enough for him to copy even if he did bring it up to 3 tomoes. Hirashin is so far the jutsu with the greatest speed.

[VK']

I dont think its Impossible, but its very improbable.
I dont think kishi would want him to be fast. Its all the cool characters (which is not naruto) that get the speed. well apart from rock lee. though I thought he was cool.
lets see who got sped sasuke=cool guy (although i hate him) kakashi is quite fast.
All cool characters always get that scene where the body flicker and appear behind their oponent then pwn. narutos will never get a scene like that

[lokoman]

As for Kakashi and the Hirashin, I do not think the jutsu was slow enough for him to copy even if he did bring it up to 3 tomoes. Hirashin is so far the jutsu with the greatest speed.
well didnt sasuke see haku's attacks that was based on pure speed, haku used the reflection of the mirrors to teleport so i think that this is pretty fast, and in the last battel with naruto in the old show wasnt he able to see naruto's movement even when he had the kyuubi awakened, imo if the sharingan sees somthing it locks on it and never lose sight of it so there might be a chance for kakashi to copy the technique

[maxw505]

mmm it would be great if naruto could learn that technique but right now i think Naruto needs to learn another element. also there is a probability that noone knows that technique now, I know people say Kakashi may know, but we are not sure. and we are not sure that Naruto may learn that technique.

[Lnrd]

i doubt kakashi know it. Maybe the fourth taught it to his master like he did with rasengan

[VK']

I doubt thats true because if naruto were to learn it off him Kishi wouldn't have set up the recent chapters to look like Jiraiya is going to be killed fighting pein.

[Raigon]

But I've always thought that the elements Naruto is supposed to learn is water and ice. =/ It makes sense, because he's always after Sasuke, and he needs wind to combat his lightning, and water to combat his fire.

Why would Naruto suddenly learn a lightning technique? Remember when Naruto begged Kakashi to teach him Chidori, but Naruto failed?

[Freedan]

Naruto's chakra is not of the lightning affinity, so he won't be able to learn that technique. As Raigon said, Naruto had failed to learn Chidori but learned something much better: Rasengan. As I said, if there's a technique Naruto will learn that his father knew, it should be the Shunshin. I think he will definitely need to master is in order to be able to keep up with Sasuke's speed.

[Sublime]

Hiraishin wouldn't help him in terms of speed, it's a teleportation jutsu. It doesn't augment the users individual speed in any way, besides it would be a cop out if he was the learn the very jutsu that the Yondaime was nicknamed for.

[Freedan]

I didn't say every move. Just that one move in particular in addition to the Rasengan.

[Sublime]

That post wasn't aimed at you lol, it was more of a general comment.

[lokoman]

i think that naruto might become smart enough to remake that jutsu all over again with some hints from kakashi who saw it

[Raigon]

Naruto is the only one capable of combining all 5 elements, because he has both the stamina and ninjutsu to do that - kage bunshin. One Kage bunshin for each element and combine them, plus he has both the chakra and stamina to do that. The only reason that might not come true would be - he'd be overly dominant and Kishimoto wouldn't want that. Besides, Naruto has raw destructive power and lots of chakra + stamina, but he lacks precise chakra control.

I mean, Naruto has the capability of cheating and using 1000 + clone training a day to squeeze 1000 years of training in one year, and etc - that would make him uber powerful. But I highly doubt he'll do that. Kishimoto won't let him.

And @lokoman - hey, why aren't I one of your buddies, eh? :amused:

[Freedan]

I don't think he can combine all fine elements. Sure, he could train to use all the elements but it would be far more exhausting than the Wind chakra element. For example, he seriously doubt he'd be able to learn the lightning element, which is what this topic is basically about. To learn another element that is completely different from his natural one, opposite to his own in fact, would likely take a whole lot more control compared to Fuuton in his case, and it's common knowledge Naruto lacks control.

[lokoman]

i also dont think that he learn all the five elements, it something that his chakra allow, its like saying sasuke mastering water element attack which i think is immpossible coz his chaka affenity is fire and lightning, he might learn a new element but not somthing that would oppose the other chakra elements like earth element

[Raigon]

I'm not saying Naruto's GOING to, I'm just saying of all the ninjas he is most likely. An element for every kage bunshin, and with the mass shadow clone training, squeezing 1000 years of training in 1 year COULD allow him to master all 5 elements pretty quick.

[Freedan]

I doubt he can combine elements just like that with the Kage Bunshin. Kakashi would've done that as well considering he also knows how to use the Kage Bunshin. Most high level jounin can use it and yet they don't do that. Kakuzu could have just learned the Kage Bunshin to combine elements instead of going through the trouble of stealing other people's hearts to obtain every elemental manipulation techniques.

And Loko, Sasuke might actually be able to use techniques of elements other than Fire and Lightning because of his Sharingan.

[Oser]

And Loko, Sasuke might actually be able to use techniques of elements other than Fire and Lightning because of his Sharingan.

I'll do something risky, and reference Wikipedia...

Well, before that, I know we have seen Kakashi use Lightning (his natural element) and water (against Zabuza).

I don't recall off-hand if Kakashi has used any other elements in the manga, but Wikipedia notes that he has also used fire and earth. However, I don't remember if this was in the manga, or lame anime fillers.

If this is, indeed true, then Sharingan can copy techniques, regardless of the element. But it still cannot copy blood-line limits.

[Freedan]

Kakashi definitely used Doton. That's how he buried Sasuke during survival training. The Katon was filler though.

[lokoman]

sharingan can copy anything but i meant his own chakra without copying any thing, didnt kakashi use katon when he was trainning with naruto annd sakura???

[Hyde]

I'll do something risky, and reference Wikipedia...

Well, before that, I know we have seen Kakashi use Lightning (his natural element) and water (against Zabuza).

I don't recall off-hand if Kakashi has used any other elements in the manga, but Wikipedia notes that he has also used fire and earth. However, I don't remember if this was in the manga, or lame anime fillers.

If this is, indeed true, then Sharingan can copy techniques, regardless of the element. But it still cannot copy blood-line limits.

In the beginning of shippuuden, i think he uses earth, water, fire to test sakura and naruto

[teyoto717]

But I don't think that that's canon. They probably just needed something to fill the episode.

[lokoman]

what ever it was they did a good job

[Hokage_Dobby]

Jiraiya or Kakashi are bound to know it.
Will he master it? No
He's recreate it.

[Freedan]

Doton was definitely a canon technique. He does us it in the manga. The Katon he used in Naruto's and Sakura's training in Shippuden was most definitely a filler. The manga never showed the actual combat between the three but the anime did, and so they added Kakashi using Goukakyou no Jutsu just to spice things up a little.

[exotic]

i bet naruto will learn the technique, because soon he is going to past the forth hokage

[lokoman]

but the problem is who is going to teach it to him, i dont think he is at the lvl to recreat that jutsu

[QA]

I think Naruto will recreate it.

[lokoman]

i dont think that at his current lvl he would do it, maybe if there is another time skip he might become better and recreats it

[Jwave]

Naruto Needs the "Flying Thunder God Technique" to keep up with Sasukes speed, as sasuke can alter dimensions (i'm might be wrong with this my memory isn't that good, so don't be harsh k?)
But if Kakashi coulden't complete "Rasengan" (neither did Minato (4th) )
I think that Naruto is truly a genius (as he could complete his father's jutsu)
I don't have to mention it separatly but both Kakashi and Minato is/were their generation's top, both S-class and all....
Naruto has his clones...(hmm) he needs to get an advantage, HE NEEDS UCHIHA ITACHI :suspicious: just kidding... but his clone explosion would be cool, then again.... we don't want another Deidara do we?
EDIT About the other element hmm it could be water would make sense (if he inherits his mother being from the whirpool country.... Then again...
well time shows and it maybe that Naruto is told that he is the son of fourth....
Doesen't it make him a high class ninja who can read the sealed scrolls??)
OFF:
Well we can speculate as much as we want.
Please someone keep 'em coming, ideas and suggestions i want to hear other opinions.

[Oser]

He just needs to form between 5 and 100 rasenshurikens and attack with them all at once...then he CAN'T miss!

Right?

That seems like an idea that Naruto would come up with long before he tried teleporting. ;)

[chinaman1472]

^ Figure Kakashi wanted 1000 clones during training? Divide that by 3.. that's 300. Figure he needs a little more chakra to substain each one, so he should be able to do at least 200.

[Freedan]

Even doing 3 at one time is ridiculous. Naruto could barely do two good ones during the fight with Kakuzu. I seriously doubt he could do that many.

[Oser]

Agreed. If the technique didn't take up a whole mess of chakra, then everyone would be using it. Surely there are characters among Naruto's friends that have much better chakra control than he does.

[Prophet]

Allow me to put my two cents in:

Covering the topic that Naruto can use all five elements is possible. Naruto is about 16 and has already two "S" class techniques (Kage Buushin and Rasengan, if I'm correct. If not, then disregard this). I just believe that Naruto has alot more room to improve. Not whether or not he can use them all at once...I have no idea


Now whether or not he can recreate Minato's technique is also entirely possible from either Kakashi (sharingan) or Jiraiya (Minato's teacher). I am leaning more toward Kakashi more because of his Sharingan and the fact that both can use the Rasingan.


I know I am repeating some of the others, but I'm just reinforcing the idea. Also, its late, and I'll most likely back my comments with evidence some other day.

[lokoman]

for the "S" class techniques they r (rasengan- rasenshuriken) any jounin lvl can make kage bunshin, i just wanted to clea that for u.

i agree with naruto has alot more room to improve but the problem is that till no he cant improve on his own, there must be some one to train him and teach him how to use his powers.

till now we dont know if kakashi managed to copy the techniques from minato or didnt coz the tech. was too fas to be copied and for jiraiya if he knew the tech i think he would have taught it to naruto already

[Prophet]

I don't know, maybe it was the mass shadow clone (isn't it a forbidden jutsu?). Maybe I saw it differently and you're right :unsure:

And i don't think that either Jiraiya or Kakashi would teach Minato's technique to Naruto, even if they did happen to know it, just because he isn't at that level, in my opinion.

[lokoman]

when he was young i thought that he was not at the lvl of learning the rasengan but he did, i didnt imagin that he will creat the rasenshuriken but he did, so i think that if he knew the basics of the techniques after one setion of mass KB trainning he might be able to learn it

[Freedan]

He managed to learn the Rasenshurinken because it was his natural element. I don't see him learning a lightning based-jutsu so easily. If he can learn it, it will probably take more than five sessions to learn how to manipulate the chakra to make lightning. I think Naruto is simply going to rely on his strengths and thus use the wind element and focus on that, maybe learn the water element as well.

[lokoman]

it would be cool if he managed to creat a jutsu like his father jutsu but depending on his wind element instead of the lightning element, now that will prove that he IS creatives

[Freedan]

He's already made something even greater than that. Minato couldn't add nature manipulation to the Rasengan, one of his strongest techniques. But Naruto has, and in the process, he's also created the strongest jutsu in the world. The jutsu he's created is already beyond the Flying Raijin no Jutsu, especially because Fuuton is Raiton's weakness.

[lokoman]

yah i know, but i meant some thing that will allow him to move very fast depending on his wind nature chakra

[Freedan]

That would be the Shunshin no Jutsu you're talking about now. I am kinda hoping Naruto will learn that also. Right now, he's completely outclassed by most high level ninja in terms of speed.

[lokoman]

That would be the Shunshin no Jutsu you're talking about now. I am kinda hoping Naruto will learn that also. Right now, he's completely outclassed by most high level ninja in terms of speed.
whats that :weird:?

yah he must attain more speed at all costs

[Freedan]

Shunshin is the teleportation jutsu both Minato and Uchiha Shunsui were known for, and is also the technique Sasuke used when fighting Deidara.

[lokoman]

that sound a good tech also

[Freedan]

It's pretty damn good if you can use it correctly, quite the ideal technique for a ninja who wants to rely on stealth and you don't even need to rely on super-complicated techniques to kill someone.

[Jwave]

It's pretty damn good if you can use it correctly, quite the ideal technique for a ninja who wants to rely on stealth and you don't even need to rely on super-complicated techniques to kill someone.

Well then again Minato basically added his own element to the tech didn't he?
So it might be possible to Naruto learn Shunshin no Jutsu And making it the second "Flying Thunder God Technique" exept it would be "Flying Wind God Technique"....?
But Narutos Chakra control again......

[Asakujaku]

Hiraishin no Jutsu would be the perfect compliment to the RasenShuriken as it needs to be at close range for it work. Instantanious speeds would make impossible to tell where it was coming from.

[Lnrd]

Hiraishin no Jutsu would be the perfect compliment to the RasenShuriken as it needs to be at close range for it work. Instantanious speeds would make impossible to tell where it was coming from.

agree

[AzureFeatherfly]

I agree that Naruto does need speed, however I would want him to have something different or out of the ordinary. If he is suppose to surpass the Yondaime, then I believe he needs something that he can call his own.

[Rudraksha]

off topic:
do you think naruto will learn the hermit mode jutsu?
i really think the toad sages will teach him the jutsu now that jiraiya maybe dead.

[Paradox Jast]

I think that Jiraiya is definitely dead. He died once, willed himself alive again to relay a message (who Pein was), and died again

And Naruto will probably learn his fathers technique, if he hasn't already. IIRC, there was a moment where Jiraiya and Naruto talked before he went on a mission (post-timeskip), and Jiraiya specifically told him not to use 'that' jutsu. So there is a jutsu that Naruto has but no one knows what it is.

If Naruto used it now, it would probably make him a bit too strong for the story. Use Kage Bunshin, tag the enemy with a seal, charge up a Rasengan, then Body Flicker over and smash him to bits. Booooooring. Ridiculously easy = boring read.

If he does do that at some point, it will be the 'final' move. He'll be fighting the last bad guy (which will apparently be Madara) and be totally drained. No one knows how it will end. Then boom, Body Flicker, Rasengan, bye bye bad guy.

*shrug* We'll see. :D

[Asakujaku]

it has to be something dealing with speed, since his primary attack is a close range one. It would nice to see Naruto pwn someone with his speed.

[skipshark]

He definitely needs to have something to move him around faster without having to rely on the Kyuubi's "cloak"...I think Naruto will figure things out with nudges from Kakashi, remember, he wouldn't have created the rasenshuriken without the help from Kakashi. I'm sure that the scrolls that Jiraiya sent with the toad to be given to Naruto aren't just going to have the information for unlocking the chakra seal but also information about his lineage, I mean, who else would tell Naruto who his father was....

[Rudraksha]

And Naruto will probably learn his fathers technique, if he hasn't already. IIRC, there was a moment where Jiraiya and Naruto talked before he went on a mission (post-timeskip), and Jiraiya specifically told him not to use 'that' jutsu. So there is a jutsu that Naruto has but no one knows what it is.

i also think he will learn the flying thunder god technique(if he doesn't know it already). this technique will allow him to get the jump on his opponent with greater efficiency then, lets say, if he uses trickery with his Kage Bunshin or shadow clone technique.

[Bankai - Ichigo]

I don't know...I'm sorta having my doubts on whether the jutsu that Jiraya referred to as 'that' jutsu was really the Raishin no Jutsu...but hey, you never never know--maybe it was. But something is telling me that maybe it was the Oodama-Rasengan that he was talking about, since it was a jutsu that combined the Rasengan with the Kyuubi's power.

But still he definitely does need a great increase in speed, and for that he'd need Shunshin and Raishin Jutsu's...either that or he could make it his own jutsu by making the Raishin into a Wind element jutsu. Or maybe not--chakra control getting in the way.

And about the Kage Bunshin and Tajuu-Kage Bunshin no Jutsu's... it's actually the Tajuu-Kage Bunshin no Jutsu that, according to Kakashi, only Naruto is able to efficiently enough because of his massive raw Chakra and stamina.

[Rudraksha]

I don't know...I'm sorta having my doubts on whether the jutsu that Jiraya referred to as 'that' jutsu was really the Raishin no Jutsu...but hey, you never never know--maybe it was. But something is telling me that maybe it was the Oodama-Rasengan that he was talking about, since it was a jutsu that combined the Rasengan with the Kyuubi's power.

or maybe he was simply referring to a jutsu that converts the nine tale's charkra into a jutsu that allow naruto to control when its power is used and how much is used.

http://manga.bleachexile.com/naruto-chapter-370-page-10.html

[Bankai - Ichigo]

Well...now that you bring that up...makes me think that here he may be referring to the Rasen Shuriken, or maybe a jutsu to get the Kyuubi under control.

[JustLaxin]

It's the Body Flicker Jutsu or the Shunshin no Jutsu. Not the "FLYING THUNDA GOD Technique"...

But while he's away training again, I think he'll learn it somehow :D

[Bankai - Ichigo]

He may or may not. Most of us are --probably-- counting on him combining the Yin and Yang chakras of the Kyuubi so he can have more control over the overall power of the Kyuubi without much trouble, and mastering the Toad techniques taught to him by the Boss-toad. And for Naruto to learn the Shunshin no Jutsu and Raishin no Jutsu, he'd first have to be told about those two jutsus...and he doesn't even know yet that the Yondaime, the person who developed those techniques, was his own father.

[x-Battousai-x]

Seriously in Kishis last interview he said Naruto will be off training for awhile.. Maybe he will learn who his father is.. Maybe he will learn the Flying Thunder God... No one knows for sure but he definitely needs a speed increase because their is no way in hell he will be able to keep up with Sasuke.

[Negrito]

I got one question, everybody seems to be saying that the Hiraishin no jutsu is a Raiton (lighting) base jutsu. Where is this stated?

I have read manga and watched the anime pretty closely and I have never come to a chapter or an episode telling that it was a Raiton based jutsu. As a matter of fact it was never throughly explained, just an overview of how the jutsu works. That is instant teleportation to anywhere where the seal was, the fourth also had a way of 'knowing' when the special kunai (the one with the seal on it) was thrown.

I can't help but think that people are thinking that since in english Hiraishin no jutu means the "Flying Thunder God" technique that it is raiton based because of its name. When all that it could be is naming, the fourth just provably named it like that because it is a really fast jutsu, like lighting thus giving it the "Thunder" part and since he is the only one with said the fastest jutsu making hi a speed "god".

In my opion Hiraishin no jutsu isn't a raiton based jutsu thus making it possible for Naruto to learn it. Also in that scroll (the one that J-man sent him over) there seemed to be a lot more then just the key for the seal. The jutsu might be mentioned in there or a more detailed and examination of it, it was J-man after all and I think he might of observed and studied it a little.

[JustLaxin]

IT could be a wind based jutsu. Since your going so fast by teleporting o_o

[Bankai - Ichigo]

Yeah it could very well be a wind based jutsu...even it was originally a lightning based one Naruto could make it into a wind based one.

[PBsallad]

I haven't read Kakashi Gaiden in a wile. So I don't remember exactly what the 4th's jutsu looked like. But I think if anything its some kind of self summoning thing, not an element based jutsu.

[Rob Lucci]

I really hope he doesn't. Tsunade even mentioned how his fighting style was extremely similar to his mother; Kushina Uzumaki. I highly doubt Kushina specialized in using the Flying Thunder God Technique. I am guessing she was efficient in the usage of Kage Bunshin, or possibly was an expert in Rasengan.

It'd be a big let down for me if Naruto learned Flying Thunder God but I know even more people want him to learn it. We'll see though.

[Bankai - Ichigo]

Naruto does have the Yondaime's genes in him though as he is his son. I know that that doesn't matter when you talk about a non-bloodline limit type jutsu, but Naruto could still learn Flying Thunder God Technique and Body Flicker...and if Kakashi or anyone trains Naruto like he is now might be able to help increase his speed...idk it just sounds pretty plausible.

[Rob Lucci]

Naruto doesn't need speed; he uses Kage Bunshin which allows him to outmanuver people who can outspeed people who are faster than Naruto (ie. Kakuzu)

[Bankai - Ichigo]

Yeah but against someone like Sasuke, or maybe his father if someone could revive him, he WOULD need speed.

[Chidori]

Naruto with godlike speed....I dont see it happening

[VSracing]

Why is that? He has god like speed when the kyuubi takes over. He was faster than Sasuke's eyes could read before he got the full sharingan, then in the fight against Orochimaru he was faster than anyone could tell.

As far as his mother being a master of rasengan, sorry but I do not find that plausible at all. The fact that Minato created it, I have my doubts that anyone aside from Naruto would have surpassed him. (Before others criticizes, I know Jiraya had the Oodama Rasengan). I believe she was referring to Naruto using his shadow clones to fight.

[Rob Lucci]

Yeah but against someone like Sasuke, or maybe his father if someone could revive him, he WOULD need speed.

Not exactly, if he can manuver his Kage Bunshin and Henge, he can be severely more dangerous than Sasuke can. The key to beating a Sharingan wielder is all within outnumbering them. Boy, does Uzumaki Naruto have that. If he can hide himself among the clones, he can easily escape Genjutsu.

Why is that? He has god like speed when the kyuubi takes over. He was faster than Sasuke's eyes could read before he got the full sharingan, then in the fight against Orochimaru he was faster than anyone could tell.

Are you referring to KN4? Because Naruto in that stage is not fast at all. He is limited to a small amount of speed because his body is being strained exceptionally. KN3, however, is a speed demon, as well as KN1.

As far as his mother being a master of rasengan, sorry but I do not find that plausible at all. The fact that Minato created it, I have my doubts that anyone aside from Naruto would have surpassed him. (Before others criticizes, I know Jiraya had the Oodama Rasengan). I believe she was referring to Naruto using his shadow clones to fight.

Jiraiya also utilizes the Ultimate Rasengan, or I believe it's called Chou Oodama Rasengan. Minato Namikazi does indeed have the best mastery over the Rasengan.

[Bankai - Ichigo]

Naruto was the one who came up with the Oodama Rasengan, when he was in Kyuubi form and had one clone with him do a joined Kyuubi powered Rasengan with him.

[Rob Lucci]

Naruto was the one who came up with the Oodama Rasengan, when he was in Kyuubi form and had one clone with him do a joined Kyuubi powered Rasengan with him.

I do believe Yondaime created every version of the Rasengan excluding the Fuuton Rasengan & Rasen Shurikan.

[<3Matsumoto<3]

I do believe Yondaime created every version of the Rasengan excluding the Fuuton Rasengan & Rasen Shurikan.

Oodama Rasengan is Narutos own original rasengan, Jiraya says so himself.

[stasplaya44]

Naruto was the one who came up with the Oodama Rasengan, when he was in Kyuubi form and had one clone with him do a joined Kyuubi powered Rasengan with him.

Naruto didn't come up with that... Jiraiya merely said that you have make "your" rasengan stronger. If you noticed in the fight with Pein, Jiraiya brought out the Ultimate Rasengan which was 5 times the size himself.

[SoulKeeper]

What on earth is the Flying Thunder God technique?!??!

[skipshark]

It's a technique whereby the fourth would place a seal somewhere and be able to instantly teleport/summon himself to the location of the seal. it was extremely useful in war, read the Kakashi Gaiden chapters, because I'm pretty sure that the special kunais had the seal on them and he would simply go back and forth among the multitudes of special kunais, slaughtering the opposition hastily.

[Bankai - Ichigo]

I do believe Yondaime created every version of the Rasengan excluding the Fuuton Rasengan & Rasen Shurikan.

Aren't Fuuton Rasengan and Rasen Shuriken the same thing? I mean...I've always read it in Naruto sites as "Fuuton: Rasen Shuriken" which translates into "Wind Release: Spiraling Shuriken".

And Oodama Rasengan IS Naruto's jutsu...

[narutoichigofan]

Aren't Fuuton Rasengan and Rasen Shuriken the same thing? I mean...I've always read it in Naruto sites as "Fuuton: Rasen Shuriken" which translates into "Wind Release: Spiraling Shuriken".

And Oodama Rasengan IS Naruto's jutsu...

You are both right and wrong. Fuuton Rasegan is the base of the jutsu, when it was half completed it was called Rasen Shuriken.

When it is fully completed he could take out a whole army with that move.

[sebonzakura]

i think the 1st thing naruto needs right now, is to protect his arm from the damage he gets from the Rasen Shuriken. its pointless to continue using technique that backfires..maybe he should implement something like the 3rd stage of learning of rasengan, to control it into s certain shape, so the the damage from the Rasen Shuriken only goes 1 way..

like skipshark said..i think that the technique is a non-elemental one that is based on seals..and naruto definitely needs more speed.. fighting someone like sasuke, the kagebunshins will be gone rather quickly, not to mention the Rasen Shuriken needs time to form...

^ but wasnt the Rasen Shuriken already completed when he used it against that akatsuki guy?

[Bankai - Ichigo]

No...when he used it against Kakuzu it was said to be only half-way completed. And he's never used even once after that fight.

[Yagami_Light]

maybe naruto eventually will learn the Thunder God Techinque ,or something similar to it,either by learning it from someone else who already knows the move or by creating it by himself based on what he will learn about the techinque

[shinzols]

well he already learned one of his fathers techniques so why not another one?

[Bankai - Ichigo]

^^Exactly. And Kakashi needs to find a way to help him increase his speed; or maybe he could help increase Naruto's speed like he helped increase Sasuke's, if it's possible. And then he'll learn the Body Flicker and Flying Thunder God Techniques. And he should also find a more faster and more efficient way of forming the Rasen Shuriken in fights, and then find a way to complete the jutsu and make sure it doesn't hurt him too much. And maybe get a higher number possible shots per day? Like how right now he can only do 2?

[Joey P]

that would be cool, he should learn about his father, when he finds out that its the 4th lol and learn his techniques.

[Bankai - Ichigo]

Yeah, that would seriously rock.

[Sublime]

As I've said before, Hiraishin wouldn't help him in terms of speed, it's a teleportation jutsu. It doesn't augment the users individual speed in any way, besides it would be a cop out if he was the learn the very jutsu that the Yondaime was nicknamed for.

[x-Battousai-x]

I dont think a person needs speed if they can instantly teleport anywhere. In a way it is canceling out his lack of speed.

[Sublime]

I dont think a person needs speed if they can instantly teleport anywhere. In a way it is canceling out his lack of speed.
No it doesn't, because you can't just teleport anywhere. Don't forget the jutsu requires special kunai to be utilizied and the individual using the jutsu can only teleport to wherever the kunai has been placed or is located. Which would render it practically useless in close combat and in every situation which can't be predicted which basically applies to all fights. It would only be useful in times of war really, which is exactly what the Yondaime used it for.

[Tasmanian Tiger]

Amaterasu is right. It doesn't really help with one on one fights.

[Bankai - Ichigo]

Yeah....that's why he needs to increase his speed before he learns that technique. But there's one thing about the Body Flicker I don't get. Is the Body Flicker really a speed jutsu or is it also just a teleporting (spelling? the word is underlined in red I can't figure out the right spelling) jutsu?

[erpay]

I don't think Naruto will learn his father's technique but i strongly believe thet he will invent some more powerful technique instead of this as his own way :)

[Negrito]

Yeah....that's why he needs to increase his speed before he learns that technique. But there's one thing about the Body Flicker I don't get. Is the Body Flicker really a speed jutsu or is it also just a teleporting (spelling? the word is underlined in red I can't figure out the right spelling) jutsu?

Shunshin no jutsu is more like teleportation. But it is only for a short distance, thus making it suitable for fights. I also remember reading somewhere that shunshin was only usuable in a straight line kind of thing. That's what I think.

[Bankai - Ichigo]

Then Naruto seriously needs to increase his own body speed without having to rely on the Kyuubi's chakra to do it for him. And I believe Kakashi may know just the trick, since he is the one who helped increase Sasuke's speed.

[Negrito]

Then Naruto seriously needs to increase his own body speed without having to rely on the Kyuubi's chakra to do it for him. And I believe Kakashi may know just the trick, since he is the one who helped increase Sasuke's speed.

He didn't help Sasuke increase his speed back then..... he copied Lee's taijutsu (with the sharingan) and then made Sasuke copy it himself. So that won't be going the same way for Naruto......

[Jwave]

He didn't help Sasuke increase his speed back then..... he copied Lee's taijutsu (with the sharingan) and then made Sasuke copy it himself. So that won't be going the same way for Naruto......

He didn't copy anything from Lee
"Hastily aquired taijutsu moves can't win him" or something like that Gai said
So Kakashi taught Sasuke Taijutsu to increase Sasukes speed>>>>Making Chidori Useful.....

[Tasmanian Tiger]

Sasuke copied most of his taijutsu moves from Lee. This is a fact.

[Negrito]

He didn't copy anything from Lee
"Hastily aquired taijutsu moves can't win him" or something like that Gai said
So Kakashi taught Sasuke Taijutsu to increase Sasukes speed>>>>Making Chidori Useful.....

Yeah he did

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h135/NeGrItO180/ss.jpg

That explains it.

[13thwarrior]

he's gonna learn that technique, he always learned whenever he wanted it badly.

[Jwave]

Yeah he did

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h135/NeGrItO180/ss.jpg

That explains it.

Srry i didn't remember it correctly it seems.......
Well next time i will check before saying anything........

[Flamecrystal]

Maybe naruto already knows the Flying Thunder God Technique but does not use it because hes not been able to perfect the technique. Like it was when he learned rasengan and it took time to master or sasuke learning the Fireball jutsu his father showeded him. Either way if he learns the technique he probable would counter the down side to the technique with clones by the way he used them to track but use speacil kunia to teleport to the enemy.

[Bankai - Ichigo]

He didn't copy anything from Lee
"Hastily aquired taijutsu moves can't win him" or something like that Gai said
So Kakashi taught Sasuke Taijutsu to increase Sasukes speed>>>>Making Chidori Useful.....

The guy after you is right....anyway, Kakashi COULD still train Naruto to increase his speed, since he (Naruto) does need speed. And only just learning Hiraishin no Jutsu and Shunshin no Jutsu won't really help much, though he does need to know both of these two jutsus as well.

[Elikc]

My short answer to that is "No" I would LIKE him to. I think it would be appropriate, but its more likely he will continue to develop more techniques familiar to his Mothers rather then his father. but I have been saying for awhile to alot of my friends that if Naruto did learn any ACTUAL taijutsu he would become far more powerful in combat then he is. He knows some basic martial arts but basically just winds up and uses haymakers. Honestly I think Instead of Ebito, Kakashi should have turned Naruto's earlly trainning over to Gai. Just think of it. Every time Naruto uses the mass shadow clone technique he just throws them at people as if they are human fodder. but what if each of his clones where at least somewhat adept at close quarters combat AND the flying thunder god?? he could use just 50 clones for attacking and save WAY more chakra that way as opposed to the 1,000 he usually throws at people.

Remember the 9th Opening by Heart's Grow for the show? Yura Yura? what if Naruto fought like THAT!? Jezus he would proubly be one of the strongest people in the show... emm more so then he already is of coarse.

[NeroE]

My short answer to that is "No" I would LIKE him to. I think it would be appropriate, but its more likely he will continue to develop more techniques familiar to his Mothers rather then his father. but I have been saying for awhile to alot of my friends that if Naruto did learn any ACTUAL taijutsu he would become far more powerful in combat then he is. He knows some basic martial arts but basically just winds up and uses haymakers. Honestly I think Instead of Ebito, Kakashi should have turned Naruto's earlly trainning over to Gai. Just think of it. Every time Naruto uses the mass shadow clone technique he just throws them at people as if they are human fodder. but what if each of his clones where at least somewhat adept at close quarters combat AND the flying thunder god?? he could use just 50 clones for attacking and save WAY more chakra that way as opposed to the 1,000 he usually throws at people.

Remember the 9th Opening by Heart's Grow for the show? Yura Yura? what if Naruto fought like THAT!? Jezus he would proubly be one of the strongest people in the show... emm more so then he already is of coarse.

...How naruto fights in 9th opening IS how naruto fights any other time, it only looks more like eye-candy there because its a 1-on-1 basis, when you see narutos 1000 clones, they dont each fight to that extent they only ever get as much as a punch or a kick out each before they get bumped, you have seen him fight like that on a many occasion, like for instance with his combi attack, hes very acrobatic with that!

But, tis true naruto needs some speed and better taijutsu techniques! His wtfpwn rasengan wont do alot against sasuke if he can get to narutos blindside quicker than naruto can blink! And naruto still doesnt have that many jutsu under his arsenal, all that hes done so far is learnt the rasengan and then further improved on it, but its clear its very damaging to himself if he uses it often and that leaves him with very depleted strength to hurl against his enemies (beside the nine-tails, but im pretty sure he'll be ditching that altogetha soon) However this turns out, its very apparent that naruto MUST and will be learning some new jutsu soon ... and i cant wait to see what kinds! :idea:

[Elikc]

True Nero, in the opening it was very similiar to how he fights. but naruto has been one to just kind of rush in an try to clobber someone with a punches. In Yura Yura he was fighting Lee, AND neji and was doing what looked like Capoera which is exactly what I meant by saying he should learn some martial arts. I dont think he would even need any more jutsu's if he could simply learn to make himself and his clones more effective in close combat. he tends to throw a group, they get bumped, then another group, they get bumped til he's down to just him. But naruto's style and what makes him interesting to watch fight is his ability to take his jutsu's (Few as they may be) and combine them for adverse effects in battle. i.e him learning the rasengan by using the kage bunshin (something only he would be copious enough to think of lol) somewhat lazy too in my opinion. But my point being what IF. Lightning fast taijutsu + taju kage bunshin (A + shuriken rasengan x Wind elemental chakra ) = Solve for A ;)

[Ares050]

no he wont he isnt a speed ninja 2 me

[-champloo-]

A bit off topic here, but someone said he would soon be rid of using the nine-tails altogether...?

I think the evidence points away from that, as in when Jiraiya left the key(to the seal within him) to Naruto. Turning the key lets out a bunch of power, but Naruto doesn't know how to control it yet. I, for some reason, think this will be the path he ends up taking - learning to 100% hone the fox's chakra.

[Starzen]

why will he use something that harms him willingly

[Ares050]

yeah without the bijuu's ill effects and able 2 control it maximum

[Elikc]

A bit off topic here, but someone said he would soon be rid of using the nine-tails altogether...?

I think the evidence points away from that, as in when Jiraiya left the key(to the seal within him) to Naruto. Turning the key lets out a bunch of power, but Naruto doesn't know how to control it yet. I, for some reason, think this will be the path he ends up taking - learning to 100% hone the fox's chakra.

Whomever told you that was correct Budd, Naruto after learning what happend when he manifested four tails in the Orochimaru fight vowed he would not use the Kyuubi's power anymore. and for lack of a better word Cuss'd the fox out and told him to get lost Naruto is now aware of the self inflicting damage the fox does along with potentially how it could hurt his friends and loved ones ((i.e. sakura)) Big point in the series and I cant help but have a weird feeling of pride in Naruto for manning up and doing that. I feel its the ACTUAL point in his life when he stops being a real kid and grows up into a man. Granted he still acts immature lol but his heart and mind are in the right place.

But ya, no more fox. Willingly at least. There is still a danger of him succumbing to it subconsciously or what have you. But for instance when he was losing to Sasuke in the Valley of the End, he basically invoked the foxes power. He no longer will do that and instead will rely on his own power which again I'm very proud to say he is developing nicely and will possibly even more so be far more powerful in the future. I still dont think he will learn the Thunder god technique specificly but perhaps other techniques of his father? point being I am sure he will surpass both his parents in the way of the shinobi.

[NeroE]

I think i mentioned about that in my last post; However, about the scroll that jiraiya had, i dont think its meant to draw on the seals power i think its meant to unleash it fully, i cant understand why at the time being but for reasons been said i dont think naruto will ever try to draw on the nine-tails power intentionally again. It may be that through gaining greater strength himself and then using the scroll to unleash the ninetails from captivity, naruto may then (instead of drawing upon its chakra) captivate its will entirely, surrendering its chakra/powers completely unto naruto - like when sasuke took oro' body; it sounds farfetched and far from what may be the truth but its the only conclusion i can come up with for the scenario, whatever that scrool is, its role is to either unleash or permanently seal the ninetails. Sealing it doesnt seem critical enough to bring it up as a plot-twist, as its already semi-sealed as it is and that only leaves the unleashing of it, whether partially or entirely that is the question and that is what we will have to wait for to find out. But i highly doubt narutos power will be drawn from the ninetails any longer, since right now his own chakra should be equal if not greater - the only viable answer is that the nine-tails is released and this somehow benefits naruto? :weird:

[Elikc]

Interesting idea Nero, I think i agree he could use it to set the nine tails free to subjugate it later on. but I was under the oriignal impression jiraiya refered to it as a "key" specificly, meaning it can go both ways. By entrusting it to naruto he is saying that you can either release, or seal this thing whenever you want. My opinion that is a big plot twist and I think naruto will do just as you said and subjugate the kyuubi AFTER naruto has some leverage on him or the kyuubi for some reason (Respect maybe? or hatred of the uchiha) decides to help Naruto by giving him his powers and ceasing the foxes consciousness.

[-champloo-]

That's what I was getting at with the scroll.

I believe Jiraiya said the last time they tried to use it, they turned it only a tiny bit and Naruto went berserk. I thought what that was implying was that, at some point in time, they should be able to fully turn the 'key' and Naruto will remain himself entirely, and the chakra the Fox had will be a permanent increase to Naruto's reserves.

Anyway, on topic:
I would really like to see him learn some decent taijutsu, although his character isn't of that nature. =(

[Bankai - Ichigo]

Yeah, I too want him to learn some more taijutsu and also the Thunder God technique.

@Elikc and champloo: I think I agree with the both of you as far as the Kyuubi's chakra and the scroll is concerned. Though I also think it has to do with sealing both the Yin and Yang chakras of the Kyuubi into Naruto, since he only has the Yang chakra in him right now. And that might solve the problem of the harm that it causes Naruto to use the Kyuubi's chakra.

But the part about turning the "key" with the scroll so that the Kyuubi's chakra becomes a permanent part of Naruto's chakra reserves is also a good idea of what might be the deal here.

[djray]

what is Flying Thunder God Technique

[Elikc]

what is Flying Thunder God Technique

It is the technique Minato Namikaze, the Yodaime (Naruto's father) created which earned him the nickname Yellow Flash of Konoha. Basically he throws a kunai wherever he wants, with a seal attached to it allowing him to (for reasons we still do not understand in the series yet) Teleport. because of his hair he affecitonatly earned the nick name during the ninja world warIII. This thread was basically created because Naruto as his son has incidently enough also learned the Rasengan, which as it turns out is an incomplete jutsu Minato also created. So what we're wondering is ; If Naruto has already learned the rasengan, is it possible Misashi will have naruto learn other techniques from his fathers repertoire? the Flying thunder god technique being the only other one shown so far.

[Darwich]

It is the technique Minato Namikaze, the Yodaime (Naruto's father) created which earned him the nickname Yellow Flash of Konoha. Basically he throws a kunai wherever he wants, with a seal attached to it allowing him to (for reasons we still do not understand in the series yet) Teleport. because of his hair he affecitonatly earned the nick name during the ninja world warIII. This thread was basically created because Naruto as his son has incidently enough also learned the Rasengan, which as it turns out is an incomplete jutsu Minato also created. So what we're wondering is ; If Naruto has already learned the rasengan, is it possible Misashi will have naruto learn other techniques from his fathers repertoire? the Flying thunder god technique being the only other one shown so far.

O.o i alway thought this techniue was only like "high speed boost" and the kunai thing was jsut for show XD

Actually if you read the spoiler of 395 (if its tru) then the tecnique is a space/time jutsu O.o

[Elikc]

O.o i alway thought this techniue was only like "high speed boost" and the kunai thing was jsut for show XD

Actually if you read the spoiler of 395 (if its tru) then the tecnique is a space/time jutsu O.o

Nah, the kunai keeps the seal connected to and using some kind of technique with the seal itself Minato is ABLE to do the jutsu. Its much faster the what lee, gai, and sasuke practice as it is Instantaneous movement. not just plain speed.

[Darwich]

So he kinda stop(slow) time for other then himself..omg he'S the prince of persia!

[NeroE]

I dont think per-say he 'stops time', time is eternal; just means that he can be anywhere he wishes instantly, sort of like tricking the system type thing but not slowing or stopping as you put it.

[Elikc]

So he kinda stop(slow) time for other then himself..omg he'S the prince of persia!

as stated, no its not stopping or slowing time. It is instantaneous movement(Teleportation.) He is not stopping time or making himself go faster. But contreary to ANYTHING in real life, he literally is one place then soon as his brain registers it in so many milliseconds he is able to teleport again, something that really gave Minato the edge however is that he would do it multiple times in a row and would appear he's just popping up all over the place giving it the image that a big yellow blur is everywhere, similiar to how you can wiggle a pencil and it looks like its bending or that their might be 4 or 5 of them.

[NeroE]

Hmmm - where can i read about all this stuff? i started reading the manga from like 150 onwards so was all the 4ths stuff from before that? or is there someplace else i have to read about all this? Would seem like an interesting read to find out about obito, minato, kakashi and anyone elses past i havent read about yet! :unsure:

[Darwich]

as stated, no its not stopping or slowing time. It is instantaneous movement(Teleportation.) He is not stopping time or making himself go faster. But contreary to ANYTHING in real life, he literally is one place then soon as his brain registers it in so many milliseconds he is able to teleport again, something that really gave Minato the edge however is that he would do it multiple times in a row and would appear he's just popping up all over the place giving it the image that a big yellow blur is everywhere, similiar to how you can wiggle a pencil and it looks like its bending or that their might be 4 or 5 of them.

Wher you got al lthat? I mean we only jsut learned that he was using time/space jutsu

[Bankai - Ichigo]

@NeroE: Kakashi Gaiden. Find the place in the manga where the Sasuke Retrieval Arc ends, basically. The part in the anime that was all those fillers was actually filled in with the Kakashi Gaiden in the manga.

[NeroE]

Koolio! Cheers :smile:

[Elikc]

Wher you got al lthat? I mean we only jsut learned that he was using time/space jutsu

Its in the gaiden as well. Alot of info on Minato out there nowadays actually, we're just waiting on finding out more about Naruto's mother now, as only facts we have is her name, she uses jutsu's like naruto, and is from the FORMER whirlpool country.

[Darwich]

i want naruto to have a kekei genkai.....Rasengan + shadow lones..is limited

[Elikc]

i want naruto to have a kekei genkai.....Rasengan + shadow lones..is limited

lol it sounds cool and all for him to have a bloodline traits, but its not going to happen. if he did it would be like saying Naruto is 'gifted' that whole thing him and Neji went at it about, naruto is a loser, he's a screw up, he's uncool, if he possessed a kekkei genkai it would be like saying "Oh but we where lying!" and beyond that the uzumaki family, and namikaze family are not clans. Thus they do not possess bloodline traits. if they did, they would have huge families responsible for protecting the secrets of their genes. But who needs one anyway? naruto has something better in his genes regardless, his mother a young upstart and talented (far as we know,s he is spoken of in high regard) and his father the Fourth Hokage is refered to as one of the most powerful shinobi Konohagakure has ever raised, possibly one of the strongest within all of the ninja world. And as we can see he is definitly his daddy's boy. I'm sure he's going to start acting more and more like his dad in ways we wouldnt expect, his ability to adapt techniques in battle is definitly something of note. naruto tends to think up things ((oriingally simple as they may be) and truly give give some great results.

And I disagree, rasengans + shadowclones ((which he is just getting into truly mastering)) has infinate possibilities. Like Imagine if he encounters an enemy ninja, throws his body towards the ninja with a ton of explosive tags on himself and blows up as it turns out the real naruto was miles away fighting a completly different battle, or multiple with multiple clones? the thing he is starting to do in the comic also which is really awesome is you never know if the naruto your seeing is him or just a clone. Like when he went to go ask asuma for wind chakra advice. That was genius of him, and he will continue to do things like that more and more on daily basis.

[Darwich]

lol it sounds cool and all for him to have a bloodline traits, but its not going to happen. if he did it would be like saying Naruto is 'gifted' that whole thing him and Neji went at it about, naruto is a loser, he's a screw up, he's uncool, if he possessed a kekkei genkai it would be like saying "Oh but we where lying!" and beyond that the uzumaki family, and namikaze family are not clans. Thus they do not possess bloodline traits. if they did, they would have huge families responsible for protecting the secrets of their genes. But who needs one anyway? naruto has something better in his genes regardless, his mother a young upstart and talented (far as we know,s he is spoken of in high regard) and his father the Fourth Hokage is refered to as one of the most powerful shinobi Konohagakure has ever raised, possibly one of the strongest within all of the ninja world. And as we can see he is definitly his daddy's boy. I'm sure he's going to start acting more and more like his dad in ways we wouldnt expect, his ability to adapt techniques in battle is definitly something of note. naruto tends to think up things ((oriingally simple as they may be) and truly give give some great results.

And I disagree, rasengans + shadowclones ((which he is just getting into truly mastering)) has infinate possibilities. Like Imagine if he encounters an enemy ninja, throws his body towards the ninja with a ton of explosive tags on himself and blows up as it turns out the real naruto was miles away fighting a completly different battle, or multiple with multiple clones? the thing he is starting to do in the comic also which is really awesome is you never know if the naruto your seeing is him or just a clone. Like when he went to go ask asuma for wind chakra advice. That was genius of him, and he will continue to do things like that more and more on daily basis.

Bah i agree with the loser thing....I mean what he'S gonna do against sasuke or madara or itachi(if he's alive) since htey can see the difference between shadow/normal....he cant do shit right now...only wait to get pwns...i doubt explosif tag and kunai will work....

[Elikc]

lol against those three no, i meant some random enemy nin, I think it would be a good idea for naruto to start carryign aroudn explosive tags and do a suicide bombing witha clone, their are no consequences to him and the enemy would just think "Whose this stupid kid running straight towards me?"or the BETTER idea; Naruto is in konoha trainning or w/e while he has a mission out of town to kill a bandit. he sends 3 clones to do the mission alone. when they encounter the bandit, One fights the bandit one on one, the other two still in hiding create a rasengan, the first clone who w as fighting gets his attention while the second performs a headhunter jutsu, and just as the second pulls him into the ground, the third with the rasengan comes flying out of the ground below him and obliterates him undregroudn destroyign both clone#2 and the bandit. The three naruto clones disperse and give naruto telepathic info upon their return that they where succesful in the mission.

but as far as sharingan users? thats why i say he's got to learn more techniques of his dad's, because his own trickery wont work so well on them as it has proven difficult. The crazy thing so far tho is that we haven't really "seen" naruto perform his best yet in the shippuden. In each of his fights he has been aided and the fight was mismatched or he has been taken completly by surprise. His last fight against the immortal was impressive but ti wasn't really anything but testing the rasengan shuriken. Honestly from what they showed of the naruto shippuden Prologue in naruto accel. He's definitly being lax about showing all of jiraiya's trainning. Because that story and arc was written by MK for the game and he is WAY more powerful in that as he was fighting demons and ghost and using some insane techniques. You'll proubly start to see him use more summon techniques too. as over the years he's still very good friends with gamabunta's sons and supposedly they are very powerful. In one of the comic covers they show him riding on gamakachi's back as he's like big as a horse now >.<

[riotanarchy]

actually, even minato's thunder god technique was incomplete. thats precisly why he partly sealed the kyuubi in naruto (explained by Jiraya). the only way he can ever hope to kill tobi who is faster than the 4th is to complete that jutsu

[riotanarchy]

ok i have a question. if Minato and Kushina were smart and gifted. WHY IS NARUTO A FREAKIN IDIOT?? (dont take me wrong, personally naruto is one of my favs)

[Darwich]

ok i have a question. if Minato and Kushina were smart and gifted. WHY IS NARUTO A FREAKIN IDIOT?? (dont take me wrong, personally naruto is one of my favs)

>_>....Naruto's not an idiot....Well he his an "idiot" in the way he act...but he's a genuis...Its just that he comes up with things only in the lastest second of a fight...

[Bankai - Ichigo]

>_>....Naruto's not an idiot....Well he his an "idiot" in the way he act...but he's a genuis...Its just that he comes up with things only in the lastest second of a fight...

I'm a Naruto fan too but come on....Naruto=genius? Where'd that come from? I mean sure he does come up with lots of good ideas during battle, but I don't think that's enough. What you said about him thinking up stuff and the very last second is true.

[Darwich]

I'm a Naruto fan too but come on....Naruto=genius? Where'd that come from? I mean sure he does come up with lots of good ideas during battle, but I don't think that's enough. What you said about him thinking up stuff and the very last second is true.

I mean...compared to other ppl who could be Sorted in the genius category...Mixing wind element in the rasegan would've took alot of years...even for minato to complate....And Look how fast naruto learned the normal rasengan(i know he didnt had to "make" it but still)

[Bankai - Ichigo]

He did add wind to the Rasengan, but he did with Kakashi's help, so that only shows how strong he is and the fact that he's strong enough to be Jounin now (since Rasen Shuriken is an Upper S level technique); it doesn't show he's a genius. And the part about how fast he learned the normal Rasengan...again, doesn't show he's a genius.

[Elikc]

ok i have a question. if Minato and Kushina were smart and gifted. WHY IS NARUTO A FREAKIN IDIOT?? (dont take me wrong, personally naruto is one of my favs)

lol ya i would have to agree that he ACTS like an idiot int he way you would expect with him not being raised by his very talented parents... But he definitely does have a gifted mind for being a shinobi. If he didn't we definitely would not be on this message board. Naruto in terms of ACADEMICS is not a genius ala Neji, or Sasuke. but just because he does nto get straight A's and excel in all the categories his peers do does not mean he does not have a gifted mind. Even Einstein failed Math =D and exactly as Naruto does he does not necessarily represent himself as what we stereotypically would consider and ace, or a genius. But not just the thinking of things at the last moment thing. Naruto as a whole is talented, and more so gifted then any of the other ninja's in the story. MK just makes it LOOK like he's a drop out and failure by his gungho attitude. When in actuality not only is he Jounin lvl now. He and Sasuke are KAGE level at the tender age of 15/16?!~ Yaaaaa you have to admitt thats impressive.

Oh and just in case anybody asks I got the Kage level analogy from both Jiraiya and Kakashi. Jiraiya when speaking to Tsunade about the outcome of the upcoming battle with Pein he mentions to her that if something happends to both of them she can always name Naruto the 6th Hokage. He is very young and immature but he is definitly skilled enough... ((honestly if he can fight akatsuki members head on like he has been WHILE holding back?! he's definitly up there.)) my second source from that comes from Kakashi. Kakashi himself recognizes that Naruto IS stronger then him. There is no arguing that or debating as kakashi would not give out that praise lightly. In terms of battle tactics, jutsu competency, and THE most important... Will to never give up!~ Naruto has them in spades, and just like Chiyo forsaw he will become a Kage unlike any before him.

[x-Battousai-x]

^ Truth.

Naruto really acts like an idiot for attention though.. When shit hits the fan he starts to act more serious.

Anyway he really needs to learn that Flying Thunder God.. Or something that deviates drastically from his current arsenal..

[Feem]

I'm actually hoping Naruto will learn the Shunshin like his father did

Same here. =]]

[kanjiki_ashisogo_jizo]

it is highly possible. he does seem to have a knack for difficult jutsu

[Inore Santateresa]

It would be pretty awesome if he learnt it but who would teach him the jutsu?

[riotanarchy]

Lol i agree that naruto is a genius that works hard to achieve his goals and learn his jutsus. But thats not part of wat i meant. I mean he tries so hard to get sauske back and knows that he isnt at his lvl, yet he attemps to take him back with a jutsu that sasuke can easily avoid and be put under genjutsu or be a target of Kirin, amaterasu and so on. If naruto wud be just a little bit more smarter in the ways of real-life situations then i think he wud train harder, then he has a chance. Perhaps learning a jutsu that can both outrun and outwit sasuke making him vunlerable for an attack.

Anyway naruto was Meant to lose that battle in the Valley Of The End. Even if naruto wud win Sasuke cud have just took a kunai and make naruto think that he was going to kil himself, then wat the hell wud naruto do?

[Rudraksha]

at first i was a little wary of wanting naruto to learn FTGT, but now i think he needs this technique to compete with sasuke's MS.

[General Grievous]

Who will he learn it from? Yondi was the only one who could do it. He's dead. Anyone else teaching him would be considered widely as a Plothole No Jutsu.

Plus, do ANY of you realize the trend Naruto is following with his father? Naruto's SURPASSING him, not matching him. Naruto took the Rasengan, which was created by his father, and improved it. Did something that even Yondi couldn't. If anything he's going to learn something BETTER than the Flying Thunder God.

[Inore Santateresa]

It's possible Naruto could learn a better technique. Maybe he could use the Kyubi's chakra to further improve the jutsu to make it even better.

[Nikato]

Well I believe that naruto is capable of learning time/space jutsu like his father did. As far as a teacher, he could most likely find out about the jutsu from that "scroll of konoha jutsu's" from the begining of the manga. He is going to get some cool ability to help him fight sasuke, we know that, and he STILL has to kill the leader of Akustki (forgot his name. Well, not Tobi, but the other guy) for messin with his pervy sage.

[Elikc]

I've been all over the place on this one but my theory so far that i've been throwing aroudn is that Naruto definitly will be learning more techniques from his fathers repertoire and there are definitly a number of people who can teach it to him. For instance Naruto HAD to learn the rasengan before he could improve upon it yet jiraiya elected to show him the basic form of it. Jiraiya also was not the only person who could teach him that. But the most obvious answer I think almost all of you are forgetting is Kakashi.... He was Minato's prized pupil and a technique whore himself. While I dont know if kakashi is capable of perming the flying thunder god technique, knowing HOW minato did it is extremly likely. Kakashi does not have the ability to make a shuuriken rasengan but he knew HOW to do it. The same thing can also be viewed about the baisc rasengan. After all this time it turns out Kakashi did know how to rasengan and could have taught Naruto at any time he just elected not too... Maybe now that things are getting so dire and Kakashi acknowledges Naruto's strength he will be willing to start teaching Naruto some more advanced Jutsu.

[jersjay]

Who will he learn it from? Yondi was the only one who could do it. He's dead. Anyone else teaching him would be considered widely as a Plothole No Jutsu.

Plus, do ANY of you realize the trend Naruto is following with his father? Naruto's SURPASSING him, not matching him. Naruto took the Rasengan, which was created by his father, and improved it. Did something that even Yondi couldn't. If anything he's going to learn something BETTER than the Flying Thunder God.

Well, one of the major themes in Narato is that the next generation will surpass the previous generation.

Shikimaru surpasses Asuma when Shikimaru defeats the Akatsuki members who killed his sensei. Neji is already the strongest member of his clan, despite not being in the "main family". Gaara, Kankuro and Temari are the strongest members of the Village in the Sand.

Naruto is on equal footing as Kakashi and is close to surpassing him. Also, he will undoubtedly surpass Jiraya once he's done with his upcomming training. He also took his father's jutsu and made it better. And let's not forget that his father had surpassed his sensei, Jiraya... who died at the hands of another pupil in Pein.

Sasuke, meanwhile, has surpassed Kakashi and arguably is now stronger than both Itachi and Orochimaru... or at the very least on equal footing. You could even argue that Sakura will eventually surpass Tsunade, since she's so strong at such a young age.

So, we're hypothetically just a year or so away from having the "legendary sanin" being surpassed by their pupils.

[Hazey101]

I could see whoever reveals to Naruto (assuming it's an authority figure) who is father is, that they will then go on to teach im the technique.

[Clyde's Reflection]

I agree with the thought that Naruto will probably learn / develop new techniques as yet unrevealed along with some of the famously known ones. Let's review Naruto's strengths and weaknesses.
Pros:
Stamina (Chakra)
Taijuu Kage Bunshin No Justu
Rasengan / Oodama Rasengan / Fuuton: Rasenshuriken
Summoning Jutsu
Kyuubi (loads more Chakra)

Cons:

Difficulty memorizing complex seal chains
Low chakra control
Impatience
Kyuubi (difficult to control)

It's likely that his summoning Jutsu will improve and he'll be able to control the result more (anyone else wondering why he hasn't used it since Gaara?). And generally frog-based Jutsus as well, as per Jiraiya. He also still needs to perfect the Rasenshuriken (it's only half-way complete). On top of that he needs to learn the Jutsu that involves completely subduing the Kyuubi that was on Jiraiya's scroll. I doubt that there's going to be time to learn the Golden Flash (or God of Flying Thunder or whatever) in the next training montage, and besides would be a little... meh... weak I suppose.

[dragon2004]

I would be really happy if Naruto learned his fathers teleportation jutsus.

[rekkajin7]

Cons:

Difficulty memorizing complex seal chains
Low chakra control
Impatience
Kyuubi (difficult to control)


a lot of the training that naruto did with jiraiya was to overcome those. his chakra control isn't really a problem that's mention anymore it only becomes a problem when he tries to unleash 4 tails or more.

his impatience in battle at least i think will disappear with the death of jiraiya. He'll probably act like an idiot and then buckle down for battle just like jiraiya appeared at first. the kyuubi is still a problem but i think the sage training will embrace that more.

as for the flying thunder god tech i think he will learn it.there's a big thing about naruto accepting his heritage little by little. eventually someone will tell him, "hey you know how you want to be hokage. well your dad was." or "you're just like your dad yondaime" etc. etc. point being he'll accept that and become a better ninja for it.

[Infinitekaos]

Someone on the NF forums made a good theory on how Naruto will find out who is father is. He said something like the key frog will be talking with him and say something like "Naruto, this scroll contains a key that was left to you by your father....the 4th Hokage." Something similiar to that makes sense to me.

[dragon2004]

"Naruto, this scroll contains a key that was left to you by your father....the 4th Hokage." Something similiar to that makes sense to me.
I doubt that, because if that would've happened both me and Naruto would go WTF?!?!!?Naruto - because he found out about his father from a freaking scroll
Me- because he freaking found out about his father from a scroll...>.>

[Bankai - Ichigo]

a lot of the training that naruto did with jiraiya was to overcome those. his chakra control isn't really a problem that's mention anymore it only becomes a problem when he tries to unleash 4 tails or more.

his impatience in battle at least i think will disappear with the death of jiraiya. He'll probably act like an idiot and then buckle down for battle just like jiraiya appeared at first. the kyuubi is still a problem but i think the sage training will embrace that more.

as for the flying thunder god tech i think he will learn it.there's a big thing about naruto accepting his heritage little by little. eventually someone will tell him, "hey you know how you want to be hokage. well your dad was." or "you're just like your dad yondaime" etc. etc. point being he'll accept that and become a better ninja for it.

QFT. I hope he does find out about his father eventually and at least TRY to be more like him. So far all he's got going for him in that department is that he only LOOKS like his father. And the Kyuubi's chakra he'll master with the Key to the Seal on the Kyuubi's chakra--i.e. that scroll. It also might have information on the Hiraishin no Jutsu. If of course his father intended for him to learn the technique.

I doubt that, because if that would've happened both me and Naruto would go WTF?!?!!?Naruto - because he found out about his father from a freaking scroll
Me- because he freaking found out about his father from a scroll...>.>

That doesn't really matter. Naruto's already WAY past the stage where he'd freak out at the site of talking toads and whatnot. And besides, it won't be the scroll doing the talking, because the scroll doesn't talk. It's the toad WITH the scroll that does the talking.

[BlackJustice]

That doesn't really matter. Naruto's already WAY past the stage where he'd freak out at the site of talking toads and whatnot. And besides, it won't be the scroll doing the talking, because the scroll doesn't talk. It's the toad WITH the scroll that does the talking.

I think naruto would have a major grin on his face if he was told his father was the 4th. Maybe he would get a little cocky or something. "My dad was the 4th hokage, what did your dad do for a living?"

[Duststorm]

About Naruto learning his father trademark technique. I think that Kishi only intends to let Naruto inherit the Rasengan.

I doubt Naruto could even learn his father jutsu on his own since there nobody there to teach him, since the 4th was the only one who could do use it. So Naruto would have to learn it from scratch which I doubt he will do.

[BlackJustice]

People are theorizing that its a kekke genkai and that if naruto was to obtain the inscroption that he could possibly train. It is possible kakashi has an idea of it since the 4th was his senpai and his idol. The sages could also know about it since they are old. Maybe 4th had possible sage training aswell? idk just throwing stuff out there

[Kenpachi Bankai08]

Eventually naruto will learn who his father is. then he will continue to improve, until he is good enough to beat Sasuke.

[Bankai - Ichigo]

People are theorizing that its a kekke genkai and that if naruto was to obtain the inscroption that he could possibly train. It is possible kakashi has an idea of it since the 4th was his senpai and his idol. The sages could also know about it since they are old. Maybe 4th had possible sage training aswell? idk just throwing stuff out there

Seconded. I completely agree with you. And the scroll with the Key in it could also have information on how to learn the jutsu, since it was left by the 4th, and he must have intended for Naruto to learn it. But then, how much can be in that scroll? We know it's mainly the Key to Seal that keeps the Kyuubi sealed within Naruto, but what else can be in it? I don't know if that scroll can have so much room left in it with that big circle in there where you put your hand to sign the storage order or whatever.

[rekkajin7]

i think kakashi knows the technique. i think when kishi focuses on kakashi we'll see how much he actually knows.

[BlackJustice]

They have focused on him before but its hard to tell if he knows how to do it since they didnt show the 4th using any handsigns. But you never know.

[rekkajin7]

i really do think he does but that's just a theory. this is one i can't really back up but want it to be true

[Bankai - Ichigo]

Actually, in the Kakashi Gaiden, there is a chapter that shows the Yondaime with his back to us and he seems to be making hand signs. It's during a battle, and he'd just told his men to throw those special kunai (plural form) at the enemy side. So it's obvious he was getting ready for the Hiraishin no Jutsu. It's just that we can't really be sure if Kakashi was able to see the Yondaime through a three tomoe Sharingan Eye.

[BlackJustice]

Actually, in the Kakashi Gaiden, there is a chapter that shows the Yondaime with his back to us and he seems to be making hand signs. It's during a battle, and he'd just told his men to throw those special kunai (plural form) at the enemy side. So it's obvious he was getting ready for the Hiraishin no Jutsu. It's just that we can't really be sure if Kakashi was able to see the Yondaime through a three tomoe Sharingan Eye.

Looks like he was taking out the kunai or gettin ready to.

[Bankai - Ichigo]

He had already placed the kunai's out and told his men to throw them all at the enemy side before he stood up with has back to us and took that stance that makes it look like he was making hand signs. I'll look for the page now. *goes to look* Found the page. Here (http://manga.bleachexile.com/naruto-chapter-242-page-4.html). Look at the very last panel especially.

[Duststorm]

Seconded. I completely agree with you. And the scroll with the Key in it could also have information on how to learn the jutsu, since it was left by the 4th, and he must have intended for Naruto to learn it. But then, how much can be in that scroll? We know it's mainly the Key to Seal that keeps the Kyuubi sealed within Naruto, but what else can be in it? I don't know if that scroll can have so much room left in it with that big circle in there where you put your hand to sign the storage order or whatever.

If the scroll contain instructions or if it were a kekkai genkai, why didn't Naruto learn it from Jiraiya yet?

Jiraiya would be best one to teach Naruto the jutsu because he was the 4th teacher.

[BlackJustice]

Being the 4ths teacher doesnt really obligate him to be able to teach the jutsu. Kakashi would have been a more suited choice since he had the sharingan and idolized the 4th. We will see. Maybe naruto will recieve his own variant?

[rekkajin7]

floating wind god jutsu!

[BlackJustice]

wind is too slow. But He could find a way to better manipulate that enscryption that the jutsu works off of. Naruto always puts his unique spin on things.

[dragon2004]

Yeah kage bushin Flying Thunder God technique or for being able to say that in one breath Hurricane god technique so that the clones themselves throw the kunai's and other clones use the flying thunder god technique while others drink tea.

[BlackJustice]

Now that sounds sick. hurricane flash technique or hurricane god technique. Each clone has a kunai and they teleport between each other? Badarse wow that sounds sick

[dragon2004]

Yeah I got goosebumps when I thought about that idea..

[BlackJustice]

i can seriously see him doing that. That would prolly be hax tho. Throw a kunai tele to your clone throw tele throw tele tele tele tele pwned

[dragon2004]

I know, that would be the ultimate naruto technique not to think how happy he will be, he likes to mass jutsus so the flying Hurricane god technique will come natural to him :)

[AzureFeatherfly]

Naruto has refined Kage Bunshin, he has refined Rasengan, I can see him do the same with Hirashin no Jutsu. He will need something better than Hirashin against someone like Madara.

[BlackJustice]

Think madara will be before or after sasuke? Becuase if its after sasuke we know he will have a counter for the eyes. But for madaras teleport BS who knows...

[Bankai - Ichigo]

Madara uses a space-time jutsu for that. And the Hiraishin no Jutsu itself is a space-time jutsu. So if Naruto learns it, or makes a variant of it like you guys were saying, then that could be a counter for Madara's space-time jutsu.

[BlackJustice]

Not really since madara can make any section of his body move (narutos rasengan on the tree banch). But maybe since naruto could clone + speed it would be an awesome matchup

[Bankai - Ichigo]

^But he'll only have speed if he learns the Shunshin no Jutsu. And really, I think he should. I mean sure, he has great speed while in Kyuubi form, and by then he'll have mastered the Kyuubi's power, but since Madara can use Sharingan to suppress the Kyuubi's chakra I'd say it's obvious he'll need to be faster while in base form, and for that he needs to learn the Shunshin no Jutsu.

[BlackJustice]

If he learns that technique Im sure he will have a special variant of it like we touched on earlier since it is naruto.

[dragon2004]

And I'm sure that if he could do it, Madara couldn't counter that because I think he needs to think of the part he wants to transfer ,and if Naruto uses that technique he will be overwhelmed it would be like mass shadow clones , but they actually can hurt the defender.
I may be wrong because it seems that Tobi/Madara didn't see Naruto when he used the rasengan on him [and he still passed him] . Maybe it makes Madara immune to physical attacks? I hope not , it will mean 2 things -
Naruto learning genjetsu -not likely
Someone else kills Madara using genjetsu - that would be OK I guess.

[BlackJustice]

yeah I guess sasuke will kill madara.

[Bankai - Ichigo]

If he learns that technique Im sure he will have a special variant of it like we touched on earlier since it is naruto.

He doesn't need to learn a variant of Shunsin no Jutsu though. It's not like the Fourth was the only one could use it. Sasuke can use it too, and I'm sure Kakashi might also know it, since it's a basic speed technique. It's just that the Fourth was REALLY good at it.

And as far as Madara is concerned, if Sasuke's really gonna double-cross him, I'm sure he'll do it in a way that Naruto and him can double-team Madara. Or at least I think that's how it should happen. Because I wanna see those two fight together again.

[dragon2004]

It is not a speed technique =/ It's a teleportation technique in which the 4th used the seals on the kunai's to know where the enemy is when he was in the other dimension I suspect that the seals were being activated after the were thrown meaning that the seals were active after air touched them when they flew and that's how he could teleport it's not a high speed technique .

[Bankai - Ichigo]

Dude, you're mixing the two up. What you're talking about is the Hiraishin no Jutsu, a space-time technique that translates to Flying Thunder God Technique (name of the thread, huh?). What I was referring to is the Shunshin no Jutsu, which is the Body Flicker Technique. Hiraishin no Jutsu is a technique the Fourth created and was called the Konoha Yellow Flash for, and the Shunshin no Jutsu was a jutsu he was only REALLY good at, but he wasn't the one who created it. And as I said, the Shunshin no Jutsu is a speed technique.

[dragon2004]

Dude, you're mixing the two up. What you're talking about is the Hiraishin no Jutsu, a space-time technique that translates to Flying Thunder God Technique (name of the thread, huh?). What I was referring to is the Shunshin no Jutsu, which is the Body Flicker Technique. Hiraishin no Jutsu is a technique the Fourth created and was called the Konoha Yellow Flash for, and the Shunshin no Jutsu was a jutsu he was only REALLY good at, but he wasn't the one who created it. And as I said, the Shunshin no Jutsu is a speed technique.

Yeah , Japenees names make me go :suspicious:wtf?.. heh. sorry =] yeah I meant that the technique he created is space-time based.Sorry for the miss understanding.

[BlackJustice]

Im with dragon. I thought they were both the same lmao. Well he needs both. Cuz the one sasuke has wouldnt be enough.

[Bankai - Ichigo]

Yeah, it wouldn't. But do you think Kakashi could teach him at least the Shunshin no Jutsu, if not the Hiraishin no Jutsu?

[BlackJustice]

I was thinking about why jiraiya never taught him it but I guess naruto was still struggling with masterin the basics. idk if kakashi will teach him it. Maybe the toads will

[Bankai - Ichigo]

Yeah, maybe the toads will teach him the technique. But you're only referring to the Shunshin no Jutsu right? And not the Hiraishin no Jutsu?

[BlackJustice]

The one sasuke knows.

[Bankai - Ichigo]

The one sasuke knows.

That's the Shunshin no Jutsu.

[dragon2004]

lol Bankai-Ichigo I think you are the only one that can identify them by their Japanese name..

[Bankai - Ichigo]

^True. And I think so can AzureFeatherFly and Infinitekaos. We are special.

[Infinitekaos]

I know their names, I just can't spell them. Hell, I can't even spell in English. Thank god when I'm at home Firefox does my spellchecking for me.

[dragon2004]

Mine does to..so I sound less retarded then in real life :).

[dlojutsu]

i dont speak english that well ither but who cares as long as someone knows what your talking about. anyway i was thinking that jiraiya dind already teach him "that technique"

[dragon2004]

The problem with "That technique" is that we aren't really sure what is it. It can be a technique that gives naruto a giant warhead that can nuke the whole hidden sand village.You see we don't know what it is.We can say that it is the Hiraishin no Jutsu but we may be wrong it's all speculations until kishi reviles what the technique is.

[Bankai - Ichigo]

The problem with "That technique" is that we aren't really sure what is it. It can be a technique that gives naruto a giant warhead that can nuke the whole hidden sand village.You see we don't know what it is.We can say that it is the Hiraishin no Jutsu but we may be wrong it's all speculations until kishi reviles what the technique is.

QFT. It might be Hiraishin no Jutsu (Flying Thunder God Technique), but we just can't be sure until Kishi says more on what "That" Jutsu is.

[godofwrath]

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[Bankai - Ichigo]

Umm....post that in the Ep 67 thread, not in here. This is the manga section.

[Infinitekaos]

If it were Hiraishin no Jutsu, why would Jiraiya warn him about it? I doubt its something as simple as that.

[Bankai - Ichigo]

^True. Or maybe Naruto hasn't perfected it yet. But wait....Jiraya knows it's better suited to wartime situations, right? So if it's the Hiraihashin no Jutsu, he'd be right to warn him against using it, since it's going to be a normal fight.

[dragon2004]

I agree with bankai-ichigo maybe J-man thought that it isn't a good time to reveal a jutsu like THAT!! and then Naruto wouldn't be able to take his enemies by surprise meaning :
*Naruto using flying thunder god technique*
enemy goes:wtf just happened.

And if he spames it like naruto likes to do then people could it's flaws, and that's why maybe he warned Naruto not to use it.

[Bankai - Ichigo]

^True. And there's also the fact that he might not have perfected yet. But wait, if he hasn't perfected yet, then since Jiraya's dead now, whose gonna help him perfect it? If indeed it's the Hiraishin no Jutsu? The frogs?

[rekkajin7]

i'm not sure what that jutsu is but i'm almost positive it isn't hirashin. i think it is either supposed to be translated as power as in the kyuubi's power or maybe the jutsu to release the seal that reinforcing the fourth's deteriorating seal. or something like that. whatever it is but not hirashin.

[dragon2004]

rekkajin7 we got nothing to do but speculate. I am almost positive it isn't something like you said why would Naruto need ANOTHER unsealing jutsu he has[or will have in the near future] the toad with the scroll to unlock the kyubi power.

[Infinitekaos]

I have seen it translated as "Do not use that power", just like rekkajin said. I always thought that he was warning Naruto not to use the power of the Kyuubi.

[Kwisatz_Haderach]

actually i have a theory that could explain naruto getting FLGT, but I'm still pulling together all the resources neccesary for it.

[He's a Mentalist]

I have seen it translated as "Do not use that power", just like rekkajin said. I always thought that he was warning Naruto not to use the power of the Kyuubi.

seems like the 8 tailed beast has full control over his kyubbi. naruto could possibly do the same and they both could use each others power.

[BlackJustice]

The kyubi has way way way more chakra then the other tailed beasts. Id say its pretty impossible to master the kyubi to that degree. I gave thought and mentioned it in discussion before. If naruto masters the kyubi I think he will obtain an incredible amount of chakra.

[rekkajin7]

the point of my post was to disqualify the thought the it was FTGT. i don't think the that naruto will handle all the kyuubi's power unless they use some trick with senjutsu but i think that is unlikely. like bj said the kyuubi has way more chakra which is part of the reason all the other bijuu must be sealed before they can seal the kyuubi.

[TheIInnerHollow]

i think he should learn the flying thunder god technique, but another way, like his own style. similar to his fuuton, like an uber rip on his dads skill.

on another note, since we r mentioning his dads skill, ive seen a lot of u refer to the flash as the last skill, but what about the death god seal that minato used 2 seal the 9 tails? he did make that technique. i mean i dont think there is really a use for it anymore, like it was good enough for the 3rd 2 use, because another sacrificial technique blows. but its always a possibility. also i read on naruto wiki that the sharingan and byakugan are unable 2 keep up with haraiton, it might just be speculation, and it also says it is more similar to a summoning jutsu then elemental.

[Starzen]

the death god seal is incomplete as the use dies at the end and naruto will pretty soon need to use it on himself as he is running out of time. for me hirashin would be pointless to naruto as it needs kunai and seals.

[Infinitekaos]

the death god seal is incomplete as the use dies at the end and naruto will pretty soon need to use it on himself as he is running out of time. for me hirashin would be pointless to naruto as it needs kunai and seals.

We don't know if it needs seals and it doesn't need Kunai. Minato just happened to use Kunai to attach the required tags to. It is actually just a tag that enabled him to preform Hiraishin no Jutsu. Also, we assume it uses seals but we have never seen Minato use seals while preforming it.

Here he puts the tag on the Rock-nin: http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/240/08/

And here he teleports without the use of visible seals: http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/240/09/ In fact, it was mistaken by Rin as Shunshin No Jutsu (Body Flicker).

So, can we really say if it uses seals or not? I am starting to doubt that it does but there is also this pic: http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/242/04-05/ which looks like he's either molding chakra with his hands or performing seals. There is so much unknown we can't say either way.

[Starzen]

those tags on the kunai are seals and they work like kuchiyosi no jutsu which is why he popped there behind the enemy out of nowhere, it was thanks to his kunai he gave kakashi and those konoha nins.

[Infinitekaos]

those tags on the kunai are seals and they work like kuchiyosi no jutsu which is why he popped there behind the enemy out of nowhere, it was thanks to his kunai he gave kakashi and those konoha nins.

I thought you meant hand seals, not tags. And it is kinda like Kuchiyosi no jutsu but obviously way more complicated as no other ninja in the entire series has been able to repeat that Hiraishin No Jutsu.

And I realize that is why he was able to appear at Kakashi and behind the enemy nins with the kunai and tags, but the kunai are seemingly a mere transportation device for the tag itself. He could send it tags on a bunny if he wanted to.

But the kunai he gave Kakashi was special as well because it alerted Minato if it was thrown so he knew if Kakashi was in danger. But I don't know if that has anything to do with the Hiraishin no Jutsu or if that is just a special kunai.

[dragon2004]

I thought you meant hand seals, not tags. And it is kinda like Kuchiyosi no jutsu but obviously way more complicated as no other ninja in the entire series has been able to repeat that Hiraishin No Jutsu.

And I realize that is why he was able to appear at Kakashi and behind the enemy nins with the kunai and tags, but the kunai are seemingly a mere transportation device for the tag itself. He could send it tags on a bunny if he wanted to.

But the kunai he gave Kakashi was special as well because it alerted Minato if it was thrown so he knew if Kakashi was in danger. But I don't know if that has anything to do with the Hiraishin no Jutsu or if that is just a special kunai.

The kunai he gave kakashi was the same as all the others, I've said it already and I'm pretty sure that the tags/kunai's are just telling the forth where to teleport when they are thrown

[dlojutsu]

^agreed. i think everybody is just over thinking everything. its all simple. minato teleports with seals, which essentially summons him to the location.

[BlackJustice]

Its possible its not as simple as you think. Bloodline trait. Unseen hand seals. And during the kakashi flashback chapters there was a panel that was pointed out by bankai ichigo that showed minato with his back turned. It looked like he was possibly doing the hand sseals but you never know. Let me find it

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/242/04-05/

Bottom left. Yep definitely doing the seals.

[Bankai - Ichigo]

Like Infinite said, it's the tag on the kunai that the Fourth teleports to. And the kunai itself must be special too, since Kakashi had the kunai with him when that Rock nin attacked him. Then Minato popped up over there, saved Kakashi, and put the tag on the Rock nin's foot. Then he teleported over to the same guy he'd put the tag on, BECAUSE of the the tag. It's the tag he teleports to. They show the tag on the guy's foot. It seems like it's being burned down or something. I think maybe that's a sign that it's ready for the Fourth to teleport to it.

And I don't think the jutsu Jiraya told Naruto to not use, and the jutsu the Scroll Frog and Jiraya talked about are the same thing. Jiraya said that Minato might have wanted Naruto to one day complete *That* jutsu. I don't think the Hiraishin no Jutsu is what Jiraya told Naruto to not use. And the two jutsu's can't be the same.

[BlackJustice]

Yeah its the tag he teles too but the handseals could activate the jutsu itself. Like exploding tags

[Starzen]

the seals surely activate the jutsu as when he was talking to kakashi, he said that the kunai alerted him that they where in danger, and thats how he knew.

[Bankai - Ichigo]

If by "seals" you mean the tags on the kunai's, then I think you're right.

[Starzen]

yes those tags are seals he prepared in advance along with the chakra.

[Infinitekaos]

yes those tags are seals he prepared in advance along with the chakra.

Yea, we all agree on that. But I think the debate is whether hand seals are needed or not like they are for summoning jutsu or is it like Rasengan that takes no hand seals to activate.

[Starzen]

for me I think it's like how deidera was activating his bombs or something like when you deactivate a kb.

[Bankai - Ichigo]

In one of the manga pages of the Kakashi Gaiden, it does show him with his back turned and it looks like he's making hand seals. But we still can't be sure that it really needs hand seals to activate, since at the time he dropped his bag and popped up behind the Rock nin with the Hiraishin no Jutsu, it didn't look like he'd used any hand seals.

[Starzen]

I think it's about time naruto steals that scroll again so that we can know how the jutsu works.

[Bankai - Ichigo]

But are we sure the Yondaime named it a forbidden jutsu and put it in that scroll? We can't really be sure. And Naruto's training with the frogs right now to master the Sage techniques. He's gonna have to steal that scroll once he gets back to Konoha. And guess what? Konoha's probably gonna be almost wiped out by the time Naruto gets back. Pein, anyone?