Extreme Metal

[Fornicaras]

Share any of your favorite Black/Death/thrash/grind Metal bands here.


Suffocation FTW.

[Tank]

I usually can't listen to that much Death Metal. I'll listen to Children of Bodom's remake of The Final Countdown, but that's it.

As for Thrash Metal, Metallica FTW.

[Fornicaras]

Bodom used to be really good IMO, but their new sound just doesn't cut it any more.

As for Metallica, let us take a moment to remember Cliff Burton.

[Tank]

I don't listen to that much of Bodom, just that one song.

As for Metallica, let us take a moment to remember Cliff Burton.

Yeah, definetly. At least he had the coolest death of any Rock Star in history. Crushed by the Tour Bus. . . twice!

[Fornicaras]

I don't listen to that much of Bodom, just that one song.



Yeah, definetly. At least he had the coolest death of any Rock Star in history. Crushed by the Tour Bus. . . twice!

Eh, I've loved Bodom up until recently. the new stuff on their myspace sucks ass.

And totally, no lame drug overdoeses or plane crash! He pretty much set the bar for rock star deaths with that one.

[Tank]

My friend listens to some band named Job For A Cowbow. I just laugh at the guy's voice.

I listen to a lot of DragonForce. They call themselves Extreme Power Rock/Metal. Though everybody calls them Nintendo Metal XD

[Fornicaras]

My friend listens to some band named Job For A Cowbow. I just laugh at the guy's voice.

I listen to a lot of DragonForce. They call themselves Extreme Power Rock/Metal. Though everybody calls them Nintendo Metal XD

Dude, I fucking hate Job For A Cowboy. My girlfriend loves them, all I hear is mindless strumming and shitty "bree bree bree" vocals.

Fuck Deathcore, it's NOT METAL!!!!!

Eh, I'm not too big on Dragonforce anymore. The Keyboards kinda killed it after a while :/

what else do ya like?

[Tank]

Well, apart from DragonForce, the only Heavy Metal band I really listen to is Metallica. Well, they're older stuff. The Black Album and earlier is all awesome. The newer stuff like Load, Reload, and Garage Inc sucks. Can't wait for the new album though. They're supposed to be going back to the old Thrash sounding music.

[McFroger3]

Lamb of God FTW!

[Fornicaras]

Lamb of God FTW!

I was Listening to their New American Gospel album.

The only one I like from them, but damn it that album rules.

[McFroger3]

Dude, listen to Killadelphia, its there live album, its fucking kicks ass!

[b3p]

Ok first off, doesnt matter if you like JFAC or not, you have no choice but to respect the drummers skill, can you gravity blast? I agree about the singer, i do like the music but hes vocals arent that good,
as for bands i like
pretty much any UKDM as long as they have skill, massivley into cephalic carnage technical deaths a lot more interesting than normal stuff,
anyone into any slam metal, prophecy, skinless etc?

[Charliehsv]

My favourite extreme metal bands? Well, I don't know if you'd classify it as extreme metal but I've got tons of Swedish Death/Gothenburg stuff on my playlist...stuff like In Flames, Dark Tranquillity, At The Gates, Carcass, Soilwork, Amon Amarth, Dimension Zero, Avatar, Arch Enemy.

Then there's of course the finnish part Children Of Bodom (I actually love the new songs I've heard of them - especially blooddrunk), Norther, Kalmah, Ensiferum, Insomnium, Wintersun...

But personally I wouldn't really call them "extreme"...sure they have, their harsh vocals/growls but they've that melodic edge ^^ (Still I love them all)

Bands I consider to be extreme and like are for example Behemoth, Vader, Watain, Opeth, Immortal, The Project Hate, Marduk, Emperor, Gorgoroth, Dark Funeral :D.
I'm not much of a thrash listener, but old Metallica, old Sepultura, Sodom, Kreator and Slayer are pretty awesome.

Someone mentioned Dragonforce...god I hate them. Their songs just consist of guitar wankery, boring shredding and gay vocals :P.
And, Children Of Bodom are NOT death metal :p

[Fornicaras]

Ok first off, doesnt matter if you like JFAC or not, you have no choice but to respect the drummers skill, can you gravity blast? I agree about the singer, i do like the music but hes vocals arent that good,
as for bands i like
pretty much any UKDM as long as they have skill, massivley into cephalic carnage technical deaths a lot more interesting than normal stuff,
anyone into any slam metal, prophecy, skinless etc?

Fuck JFAC's gravity blasting, Vital Remains does it way better than JFAC will EVER hope to do.

Cephalic Carnage FTW. I'm listening to Exploiting Dysfunction right now.

My favourite extreme metal bands? Well, I don't know if you'd classify it as extreme metal but I've got tons of Swedish Death/Gothenburg stuff on my playlist...stuff like In Flames, Dark Tranquillity, At The Gates, Carcass, Soilwork, Amon Amarth, Dimension Zero, Avatar, Arch Enemy.

Then there's of course the finnish part Children Of Bodom (I actually love the new songs I've heard of them - especially blooddrunk), Norther, Kalmah, Ensiferum, Insomnium, Wintersun...

But personally I wouldn't really call them "extreme"...sure their have, have harsh vocals/growls but they've that melodic edge ^^ (Still I love them all)

Bands I consider to be extreme and like are for example Behemoth, Vader, Watain, Opeth, Immortal, The Project Hate, Marduk, Emperor, Gorgoroth, Dark Funeral :D.
I'm not much of a thrash listener, but old Metallica, old Sepultura, Sodom, Kreator and Slayer are pretty awesome.

Someone mentioned Dragonforce...god I hate them. Their songs just consist of guitar wankery, boring shredding and gay vocals :P.
And, Children Of Bodom are NOT death metal :p

So you like swedish black metal? Nice, Watain & Dark Funeral are up there on my list.

The most extreme bands I listen to would be stuff like Hate Eternal, Vital Remains, Skinless, Deeds of Flesh, stuff like that.

Also, Bodom is (or was) Melodic BLack. I guess now they'd be more blackened thrash metal.

[Charliehsv]

So you like swedish black metal? Nice, Watain & Dark Funeral are up there on my list.


I guess I do. I like most Black Metal as long as the bands aren't trying to be ultra kvlt and the production sounds like it's been recorde deep in the frostbitten forests of the north :push:


The most extreme bands I listen to would be stuff like Hate Eternal, Vital Remains, Skinless, Deeds of Flesh, stuff like that.

For me it'd be early Kataklysm, Torsofuck (although I do not listen to them frequently, and even if just a few selected songs) and the 1349 stuff I got.

I've given up on labeling CoB with some genre since they blend so many genres into one. I just call them metal :P

[b3p]

Fuck JFAC's gravity blasting, Vital Remains does it way better than JFAC will EVER hope to do.

Cephalic Carnage FTW. I'm listening to Exploiting Dysfunction right now.


Well if you wanna be all like "wah wah wah JFAC are shit cause scene kids like them" then yes there shit but if you wanna start comparing shit and just insulting the whole band cause of the wank singer then your being immature, and if your gonna start comparing dont pull out fucking vital remains, cause all i have to say is Flo mounier, i dont even have to say cryptopsy but i will just for those who dont know who i mean, but he blasts the shit out of any death metal band on the planet,
and glad to see you like them at least + vital remains but VR are better with Glen on vocals.
Not so much on the black metal, i do like some of the music, but most of the bands take themselves to seriously, do love Dimmu though and i like immortal oh and theokatony not sure if you will have heard of them though.

[Charliehsv]

Oh, of course, I forgot Dimmu Borgir. Although I wouldn't call them black either :<

[Fornicaras]

Well if you wanna be all like "wah wah wah JFAC are shit cause scene kids like them" then yes there shit but if you wanna start comparing shit and just insulting the whole band cause of the wank singer then your being immature, and if your gonna start comparing dont pull out fucking vital remains, cause all i have to say is Flo mounier, i dont even have to say cryptopsy but i will just for those who dont know who i mean, but he blasts the shit out of any death metal band on the planet,
and glad to see you like them at least + vital remains but VR are better with Glen on vocals.
Not so much on the black metal, i do like some of the music, but most of the bands take themselves to seriously, do love Dimmu though and i like immortal oh and theokatony not sure if you will have heard of them though.

I never liked JFAC, even before all the scene kids were all over their nuts. The drumming is sloppy, I never was one for constant breakdowns either. I can't stand the whole deathcore genre in general.

Cryptopsy is good, But wanna know who does even better blasting? Tomás Corn from Lykathea Aflame, My all time favorite death metal band. Now THAT, my frined, is the definition of insane drumming.

I haven't heard of THeokatony, but I'll check them out. I like other black metal acts like taake, thornspawn, & shit like that.

[Tank]

Someone mentioned Dragonforce...god I hate them. Their songs just consist of guitar wankery, boring shredding and gay vocals :P

I agree that their lyrics are incredibly corny. They are a band based off a video game though, it makes sense that their lyrics would sound like video game dialougue. Defeat, destiny, spirit, soul, etc.

I love the instrumentation though. It's hard to find a band that still continues with awesome guitar solos and lyrics you can actually understand, even if they are corny. I listen to a lot more Power Rock or Hair Metal than Heavy Metal though.

[b3p]

Oh, of course, I forgot Dimmu Borgir. Although I wouldn't call them black either :<

Not the later stuff but if you go back to stormblast then they are

[Fornicaras]

Not the later stuff but if you go back to stormblast then they are

I don't know why, but stormblast kicked ass, but the re-recording fucking blows :-|

[Terabane]

Well, apart from DragonForce, the only Heavy Metal band I really listen to is Metallica. Well, they're older stuff. The Black Album and earlier is all awesome. The newer stuff like Load, Reload, and Garage Inc sucks. Can't wait for the new album though. They're supposed to be going back to the old Thrash sounding music.

To answer your post, Mastodon > Any metal band at the moment.

[Tank]

I've never heard of them. But the Metallica right now is nowhere close to the Metallica from back in the 80's before they sold out.

[Terabane]

I've never heard of them. But the Metallica right now is nowhere close to the Metallica from back in the 80's before they sold out.

Obviously, go listen to Blood Mountain, all shall be revealed.

[Tank]

I'm listening to them now, and I'm not impressed. I've only heard two songs though. I can't find Blood Mountain. Iron Tusk was horrible. And they've completely butchered Metallica's Orion. I think it's that they seem very SlipKnot-ish and I hate that type of sound though.

[Terabane]

Then you didn't listen, I said the Blood Mountain album for a reason.

[Tank]

Alright, I thought you were talking about a song. Give me a small list of some of the songs on that Album and I'll give them a shot.

[Juliano]

The only extreme band I ever really got into was In Flames.

Their concert had my ears ringing for a night.

[Haru]

I've only recognized two of these artists. Metallica and Dragonforce.

Metallica's new stuff, is okay. And Dragonforce is still good. But it is getting old. And I'm adding Mudvayne and Breaking Benjamen to the list

[Tank]

I'm pretty sure Breaking Benjamin isn't Heavy Metal. But I haven't heard anything by them, so I could be wrong.

I don't like any of Metallica's new stuff. It sucks and keeps getting worse. Hopefully the new album will be awesome like their old stuff.

[Nab]

I haven't heard much of anything from them but Breaking Benjamin sure as hell isn't metal at all, let alone extreme metal.

As for what extreme metal bands I like, its been a while since I've listened to much of the more extreme genres and have been leaning more towards the more traditional bands, but I used to listen to a good bit of Cannibal Corpse and Cradle of Filth (though CoF really only had a few good albums).

I also liked Stormlord (a fairly obscure Italian band that describes itself as "Extreme Epic Metal", though their current lyrics are pretty much Black Metal screaming). And my favourite extreme metal band would be GWAR, though only their past 3 albums have been thrash metal.

[Fornicaras]

To answer your post, Mastodon > Any metal band at the moment.

I beg to differ.

Death>any metal band.

Besides, Mastodon isn't really all that extreme, IMO.

[Charliehsv]

I don't know why, but stormblast kicked ass, but the re-recording fucking blows :-|

I actually like the re-recording. It's more atmospheric and Hellhammer's drumming is far superior.

To answer your post, Mastodon > Any metal band at the moment.

Or not. They're as much the "saviors of metal" as are Trivium. Pseudo Prog/Groove is all they are...


The only extreme band I ever really got into was In Flames.

Their concert had my ears ringing for a night.

One of the best live acts of today. Can't wait to see them again this summer :D
Although I wouldn't call them extreme either XD

[Yurijah]

Death rules all!

But from the newer stuff i'd say Dimmu Borgir and Amon Amarth are pretty good.

[Fornicaras]

I actually like the re-recording. It's more atmospheric and Hellhammer's drumming is far superior.

Well...I will admit Sorgen's Kramer Dell II was awesome.



Or not. They're as much the "saviors of metal" as are Trivium. Pseudo Prog/Groove is all they are...

Hahahahahaha, Trivium is a bunch of wannabe Metallica pussies.




One of the best live acts of today. Can't wait to see them again this summer :D
Although I wouldn't call them extreme either XD

Older In Flames (Anything before 2000) Could be considered Extreme.

Not only that, But Old IN Flames Kicked ass..
New In Flames is okay.

[Charliehsv]

Hahahahahaha, Trivium is a bunch of wannabe Metallica pussies.


Indeed. And I've been forced to see them live 3 times as various support acts...and it always was lame as hell. Each time I hear Heafy scream "This is a fucking thrash song!" I get the urge to strangle him :push:




Older In Flames (Anything before 2000) Could be considered Extreme.

Not only that, But Old IN Flames Kicked ass..
New In Flames is okay.

I think all In Flames albums except Reroute To Remain (which is great) and Soundtrack To Your Escape (which is their worst, but still good) are awesome.

Yeah, and you're probably right about the anything before 2000 part. At least Lunar Strain, The Jester Race and Whoracle are extreme.

[b3p]

One of the best live acts of today. Can't wait to see them again this summer :D
Although I wouldn't call them extreme either XD

Awesome the first time but last time i saw em was with slayer and lamb of god and lamb of god are the 2nd best live act ive ever seen,
Inflames later stuff is just metal not really extreme because anders vocals are softer but theyre still good

I don't know why, but stormblast kicked ass, but the re-recording fucking blows :-|

I actually agree with that but its because of different members i reckon,

Trivium suck ass, strange thing ive seen them twice, not on purpose clearly, fucking support bands.....

[Charliehsv]

Awesome the first time but last time i saw em was with slayer and lamb of god and lamb of god are the 2nd best live act ive ever seen,
Inflames later stuff is just metal not really extreme because anders vocals are softer but theyre still good



Depends on old or new In Flames. On their earlier stuff I'd call his voice anything but soft :p
Yeah, LoG are awesome live aswell, although their stuff tends to get somewhat monotone on CD.

[b3p]

Depends on old or new In Flames. On their earlier stuff I'd call his voice anything but soft :p
Yeah, LoG are awesome live aswell, although their stuff tends to get somewhat monotone on CD.

You have no idea, when i was working with a mates band cause they wanted my vocals on one of their tracks the rhythm guitarist would constantly just play lamb of god in between songs, it got really fucking boring

[Charliehsv]

^Haha. The problem LoG has is that they recycle their riffs WAY to often. It's often even the same notes just played at different rythms...

Cool you do vocals ? Clean or harsh? :D

[b3p]

Both i was in a southern metal band but finding people who are into it and play it was difficult even though i knew loadsa people who liked it so ive started up a technical metal band with a mate so thats a lot heavier vocals

[Charliehsv]

Haha nice. Any myspace/website for samples? ^^
I'm just play the electric guitar as a hobby, but I'm planning to found a band with another friend who's guitarist after I'm done with school.

And tomorrow it's time for some gigs again! A 2 day cruise in the baltic sea organized by Sweden's largest alternative music magazine with Soilwork, Danko Jones, Backyard Babies, Avatar and Municipal Waste playing on various stages on the ship! Yaaay :D

[b3p]

Haha i dont think so, ive had them in the past i had a couple of covers for my old band but then i lost my pc for a month n couldnt remember the myspace when i got back on

[Charliehsv]

So....back from 2 day of complete metal-madness on a cruising ship. Great gigs by Municipal Waste, Soilwork, Avatar and General Surgery. I especially liked the part during the General Surgery gig when 2 hot chicks in skin tight nurse dresses and stockings came onto the stage and smeared down the front rows with fake blood ^^.


And OMFG. New In Flames songs are out on the net...A Mirror's Truth and Disconnected. Instant love <3.

[Joji]

Megadeth > Metallica.

:)

[zangetsuking]

I like Deathcore, yeahI know a few blasted it. But I love all death. I have been really diggin this band called Though the Eyes of the Dead. I like evil shit in general, Deicide, Six feet under, Vital Remains, Dimmu Borgir, the list goes on

[Charliehsv]

Megadeth > Metallica.

:)

I agree. Metallica hasn't released a good album for like 19 yeards (the black album doesn't count as it was imo only mediocre) and Megadeth's still releasing quality albums. Also, imo, Megadeth's guitarwork blows Metallica's out of the water.
I'm not saying metallica are bad, their first four albums ruled, but I hate it how bands like Megadeth get completely neglected in comparison, especially since Metallica without Mustaine wouldn't have gone anywhere.

[Ulquiorra=SRS BSNS]

Metallica is serious win.

[Joji]

IMO, Mustaine and Burton drove metallica's sound and popularized it, ever since mustaine got the boot and burtun hit the road, hetfield and ulrich were able to make one last great album and that was justice, which the sound was more relevant to the "thrash" genre. Black album was less thrashier than the others but still great, after that they have been watering down there material into what we call st.shit. all artists will always get stuck in one genre, and feel the need to upgrade their sound because they get bored of the same sound. For what skill and talent metallica had, they failed trying to reshape their sound.

Megadeth on the other hand had only one sorta failure album and that was risk. Risk had a few nice tracks but the rest was garbage. CRUSH EM'! They moved away from the Trash genre but still put out great albums. Sucks when you get titled into one genre and you try to expand your sound and instantly your a sell out.

Mustaine is one of the greatest, if not best metal guitarists today.
The guy can still shred like a mother fucker, he gets better with age.

[Fornicaras]

IMO, Mustaine and Burton drove metallica's sound and popularized it, ever since mustaine got the boot and burtun hit the road, hetfield and ulrich were able to make one last great album justice, which the sound was more relevant to the "thrash" genre. Black album was less thrashier than the others but still great, after that they have been watering down there material into what we call st.shit. all artists will always get stuck in one genre, and feel the need to upgrade their sound because they get bored of the same sound. For what skill and talent metallica had, they failed trying to reshape their sound.

Megadeth on the other hand had only one sorta failure album and that was risk. Risk had a few nice tracks but the rest was garbage. CRUSH EM'!

Mustaine is one of the greatest, if not best metal guitarists today.
The guy can still shred like a mother fucker, he gets better with age.

I hate Mustaine's voice, but everything else is true, the guy is an epic guitar player.

But NO ONE will top Chuck Schuldiner when it comes to Metal guitar, may he R.I.P. :sad:

[Joji]

and on the contrary, Dragonforce sucks. Nintendo meets Metal in the gayest way possible, *sound of super mario jump, Thoing mixing in with some heavy Open E** holy shit.

[Fornicaras]

and on the contrary, Dragonforce sucks. Nintendo meets Metal in the gayest way possible, *sound of super mario jump, Thoing mixing in with some heavy Open E** holy shit.

"meedlymeedlymeeedlysqueedlysqueeldy! I slayed a dragon in just under a minute and rescued the fair maiden! meedly meedly meeldy! (Really really really long solo) I climbed the mountain high and smote my foes ruin unto the mountainside! (another solo)"

There, I just played a Dragonforce song for j00.

Yea, DF r teh epic phailz.

[BlackWingedDeathGod]

I like Slayer, Mastodon, Dragonforce, Metallica, Mudvayne, Static X, As I lay dying, and i use to like Dir En Grey but not alot anymore just they're old stuff because their new stuff blows.

[Wolfs Reign]

Pantera FTMFW

DragonForce FTMFL

[Charliehsv]

Sucks when you get titled into one genre and you try to expand your sound and instantly your a sell out.

That's one thing I really dislike about the scene...people want bands to make the same album over and over again. If a band changes their sound into a slightly "softer" direction, it'll be called mallcore, nu-metal, metalcore or whatever.

Mustaine is one of the greatest, if not best metal guitarists today.
The guy can still shred like a mother fucker, he gets better with age.

QFT.
Also, Kirk Hammet is imo terribly overrated while Hetfield completely underrated. Hammet's solo's are basically just a bunch of trills, while Hetfield plays all his riffs with ONLY downstrokes, which is pretty insane.

As I've said before, DragonForce fail. They might be a moderately instersting band if they weren't messing around with their 4 minutes solos and would't just constantly sweep at 200bpm just for the sake of the speed with the named annoying-as-fuck nintendo sounds. Their songwriting is pretty crappy aswell.

Yeah...R.I.P Chuck Schuldiner....
And, since Pantera was mentioned, R.I.P Dimebag Darrel aswell. That guy was a guitar-god.

[mirandaadria]

Does Arch Enemy count?

[Fornicaras]

Does Arch Enemy count?

Yea, They're melodeath, and melodeath counts as extreme.

[b3p]

Dont lie, arch enemy dont count, there not metal, there a sick guitarist with some other wankers on stage, there only famous because there was an add in the paper saying wanted female vocalist to prove the masses wrong about women in metal, did it work? no, and now were left with an amazing guitarist Michael Amott in a shit band, thank christ for the reformation of carcass

[Charliehsv]

Arch Enemy not metal? LMFAO. And Fyi, Arch Enemy were famous even before they got Angela as a vocalist and she blows the old vocalist out of the water (and lots of other vocalists aswell).

[b3p]

There wank, and ive heard the old vocalist, not that impressive either, point is michael amott is the only good member of that group, there fucking wank live as well ive seen them twice and i spent the entire time stood talking with a mate drinking beer and shouting abuse at angela between songs

[mirandaadria]

Opinions, opinions. Whether you think they are "extreme" enough or not, I'm pretty sure Arch Enemy are metal.

[Charliehsv]

There wank, and ive heard the old vocalist, not that impressive either, point is michael amott is the only good member of that group, there fucking wank live as well ive seen them twice and i spent the entire time stood talking with a mate drinking beer and shouting abuse at angela between songs

So because you dislike them they're not metal?

Both times I've seen them, they were the best band playing that evening. Saying all the mebers except Michael are bad is just stupid, since Christian Amott is nearly as good at playing the guitar, and Daniel Erlandsson is a good drummer (who plays in Carcass aswell, in case you didn't know). You might not like the music, but calling them bad musicians is just waaay off.

[b3p]

It was sarcasm, there are bad metal bands as well, arch enemy being a pretty fucking bad one, and alright maybe the rest of the band arnt that terrible but michael is the only one who makes it remotley interesting for me, as for angela i have a friend who can scream better shes never played to more than like 500 people and when i say that i actually mean it because if you asked angela about nargyl she would tell you that she hates the singer she wouldnt tell you the reason why is that there singers better than her though

[Charliehsv]

Well that's all about opinions now, so there's no point to argue on.
Any myspace link of that other female vocalists band ? I'm curious as how she does compare and sound ^^

[mirandaadria]

I love when people try to pass off their opinion as fact. Fun times, fun times...

[Charliehsv]

It's easy to fall into that pitfall yourself. I've a tendency to do that If I'm not paying attention to what I say:suspicious:

[b3p]

You dont have to beleive me but its the truth, besides my opinions are always fact...
and im not exactly sure how the names spelt and my internets being shit at the moment so i cant get on myspace but i think there on metal blade, ill post a link tommorow probably when ive sorted out my pc

[Wolfs Reign]

enh Arch Enemy are alright i guess. but nothing compares to the raw power of Shadows Fall. not their new album cuz they went pussy on us, but back in the good old days with War Within.

[Charliehsv]

Shadow's Fall are cool I guess. Haven't heard that much from them, but they were really good live. And the vocalists dreads rule!

[Wolfs Reign]

Hellz yeah they do. Check out the vid for Inspiration on Demand, its pretty cool. Since you haven't heard them stay away from their new stuff, Of One Blood and War Within are awesome.

[Charliehsv]

I think the only stuff I've heard on CD is some new song....don't remember the title of it, but the chorus was something like "All the world will hear us, our voices can't be bound". It was pretty good, although I didn't like the vocals that much. Guitarwork was good though.
And, sure I'll check those albums out when I've time.

Listening to Leaves' Eyes now...some Gothic Metal band. Downloaded som songs since they're playing at a festival I'll be going to this summer. Not bad actually, although its too slow going at times.

[b3p]

Shadows fall were ok when i saw them at black crusade but i really dont like the new album older stuff was great though

[Wolfs Reign]

Anyone going to the Gigantour? its gonna be Megadeth, Bodom, In flames, and some other crappy bands, but in flames and bodom are gonna kick ass, theyve always been good.

[Charliehsv]

I wish I could, but they're not coming to europe. Ah well, I'll see both bodom and in flames this summer at some festivals, and I just recently saw Megadeth so I'll survive ^^

Anyone else going to any festivals?

[b3p]

I might go download festival mainly because the line ups starting to look ok but the headliners arent that amazing but inflames rise against disturbed and alter bridge so far

[Charliehsv]

Download is cool, it usually has a pretty good lineup. Sadly there are always crap bands like MCR and Korn playing there aswell...

I'll be going to my second Wacken this year, and also to Metaltown in Gothenburg. Both festivals have awesome line-ups so far.

[b3p]

I usually dont like it cause its too commercial but regardless it has had good bands but when they do stuff like put mcr ahead of slayer, i die a little inside

[Joji]

i used to love listening to shadows fall when they first came out, i've stopped listening to alot of metal bands. SF had alot of play time on uranium.

[Amata]

I'm not sure what sub-genre Bodom are, but I like their music a lot. Lamb of God are one of my favorite bands... I have many metal bands on my list, but a few don't belong on the "extreme" list. But, three that do belong here are Gojira, Amon Amarth and Hypocrisy.

[Charliehsv]

Do define bodoms genre is hard....they're a mix of various different genres. It doesn't really matter to me though, since they're one of my favourite bands.

Amon Amarth rule...they're a kind of band that just keeps getting better and better. With Oden At our Side was imo one of 2006's best realeases. Hypocrisy are great too...Peter Tägtgren is a god...and although not extreme, his work with Pain is awesome aswell.

Another band which hasn't bee named yet is Dark Tranquillity! Definately one (if not the best) melodic death metal bands around and a pioneer of the genre. Their latest release Fiction is also imo the best album of 2007.

[b3p]

Nah bodom are power thrash, thats my opinion at least, theres a genre for everything my personal favourite
mathcore, technical mad shit, plus my mates going out with the guitarist from sikth and her and him have been helping me write technical death,
fun with timings

[Joji]

Do define bodoms genre is hard....they're a mix of various different genres. It doesn't really matter to me though, since they're one of my favourite bands.

Amon Amarth rule...they're a kind of band that just keeps getting better and better. With Oden At our Side was imo one of 2006's best realeases. Hypocrisy are great too...Peter Tägtgren is a god...and although not extreme, his work with Pain is awesome aswell.

Another band which hasn't bee named yet is Dark Tranquillity! Definately one (if not the best) melodic death metal bands around and a pioneer of the genre. Their latest release Fiction is also imo the best album of 2007.


United Abominations.

[Wolfs Reign]

United Abominations was kinda a let-down imo. Idk i was kinda expecting a little more outta Megadeth than what they delivered

[Charliehsv]

UA was good, but definately not one of 2007's best. My personal contenders to that title would either be Watains "Sworn to the Dark", Machine Heads "The Blackening", Dark Tranquillity's "Fiction" or "Rise Of The Tyrant" from Arch Enemy.

[b3p]

I wont start again with arch enemy but
machine head? im sorry no, im a dedicated fucking head fan ive seen em live sang every word to the song pitted with huge crowds to get near the front and one of my next tattoos is the MH logo from burn my eyes, but the blackening only has like 2 machine head standard tracks, it was a massive let down except halo and aesthetics of hate, aesthetics mainly because of the fact that it insults grimm who insulted dime which is unfuckingacceptable, but best of 2007? no way i could list you 10 metal albums better easily.
agree with dark tranquilty there not my style usually but there definatly good at what they do.

[bp1019]

Some of my picks for 07' would have to be:

Throwdown - Venom and Tears
Devildriver - The Last Kind Words
Down - Over the Under (not as hard but Anselmo still kicks ass)
Zombie - Live (actually sounds 10 times better than his studio releases)


*I'm sure there are more but they seem to be slipping my mind currently.

[Charliehsv]

I liked The Blackening...yes it's not typical for Machine Head but that doesn't make it bad. The only song I didn't really like was Now I Lay Thee down. Other albums worth a mention are Schlacht - Avatar, In Sorte Diaboli - Dimmu Borgir and Sworn To A Great Divide - Soilwork. Other than that there've been pretty few good new releases.

[Fornicaras]

The Blackening kinda sucked, and Fiction owned.

I was really dissapointed with Vital Remains' Icons of Evil, It sucked compared to dechristianize....

[Charliehsv]

!!!
Children Of Bodoms new release Blooddrunk has leaked. I've nearly completed downloading it! AHHH, can't wait!!!!

Edit: Listening to it right now

[Fornicaras]

How is it?

[Charliehsv]

Only listened to 3 songs yet....but I'm liking it so far. It has a thrashier feel than their older stuff and it's pretty catchy. And of course, the guitar work is awesome, but I'd expect nothing less from these guys. I'll be albe to say more once I've listend to the whole thing ^^

[FullThrottle]

Extreme Metal is AWESOME! I listen to almost all Metal genres but my favorite are Death and Black Metal... My favorite bands include:

- Cannibal Corpse
- Dimmu Borgir
- Children of Bodom
- Slayer
- Satyricon
- Amon Amarth
- Ensiferum
- Behemoth
- Naglfar
- Nile
- Wintersun
- Bolt Thrower
- Kataklysm
- Impaled Nazarene
- Trivium
- Darkthrone
- Death
- list goes on...

and guys, here's my comment on the Children of Bodom's genre issue ;): First it was Meloblack, then it was Melodeath. Now it is Extreme Power Metal :ninja:

Never call CoB Death Metal.

edit: downloadin' Blooddrunk now....

[Charliehsv]

Lots of awesome bands on that list there... <3 Ensiferum and Wintersun!

Listened to the whole Blooddrunk album once now, and it's pretty awesome. There aren't any filler songs at all, and the worst songs are still very good. It's definately better than Are You Dead Yet? (which I still liked), but I'm still missing some of their neoclassical old sound.

[FullThrottle]

what's this? Third track and I'm still waiting for a great, speedy guitar intro (like in Kissing The Shadows)! I'm disappointed if there's none of those cool and catchy intros...

Anyway, LoBodomy has a nice guitar solo ^^

[b3p]

Down - Over the under (down never ever lose their touch)
As I lay dying - An ocean between us
Sarpanitum - Despoilment of origin
Atreyu - Lead sails paper anchor (i usually hate them but this album was good)
Strain - Strain
Orange goblin - healing through fire
Parkway drive - horizons (a lot heavier than there usual hardcore stuff)
Crepitation/Kastrated/Ingested - Northwest slam fest
Protest the hero - Fortress
Cephalic carnage - xenosapien

theres the better 10 albums.

[Charliehsv]

lol....as i lay crying and atreyu ><

After having listened to Blooddrunk quite a few times now I can say that I really like this album. The sound is alot more thrashy while still having extremely catchy melodies. There's alot of double bas drums, which is of course always a huge plus, and as I've said before the guitarwork is awesome. There are also pretty many riffs which are quite untypical for CoB ,like the mainriff of blooddrunk which has alot of LoG vibes, or the main riff of One Day You Will Cry which imo as a neothrash Machine Head feel to it with the pinch harmonics. All in all you can really hear that they've been influenced by touring with Slayer and Lamb Of God for the better part of a year.

[b3p]

cept that As I lay dyings new album is pro, regardles of past failure and same with atreyu, sounds like 80s stuff.

[Charliehsv]

As I Lay Dying is imo a mediocre metalcore band at best, while atreyu are just a bunch of fags. But each to his own :D

Btw, does anyone listen to some progressive bands like Nevermore, Memfis, Opeth or Evergrey ?

[Wolfs Reign]

I dont really like any of those bands. Idk im weird. I like slayer and I like rush, idk. Five Finger Death Punch kicks ass though, ive been listening to them lately, and their song "Ashes" is awesome

[Charliehsv]

Haha you're not weird for not liking bands like that. I didn't either to begin with. I guess it's kind of an aquired taste, those bands just grow on you after a while.

And Slayer FTW.

[Fornicaras]

I love Opeth ('cept when they went all Rush like and sucked ass).

Blackwater Park FTW.

[Charliehsv]

Lol, yeah the Damnation Album is kinda....weird.

Yeah, Blackwater Park rules. Bleak <3. Another favourite of mine is My Arms, Your Hearse.
I'm really looking forward to their coming release.

[FullThrottle]

Btw, does anyone listen to some progressive bands like Nevermore, Memfis, Opeth or Evergrey ?
Death, Sonata Arctica, Nile and Wintersun... I concider them pretty progressive. I've never heard a band that has dedicated their works completely on the progressive side though :/

[Maiorem]

Ever tried listening to "The Devil Wears Prada" (the metal band, NOT the novel/movie) or Demon Hunter?

[Charliehsv]

Hmm, isn't Demon Hunter metalcore or something like that?`That's the impression I got from the one song I've heard of them.

Yeah, Wintersun have some progressive elements....can't wait for their new release aswell. It's taking fucking AGES though...

There are some bands which definately are too progressive for me, like Meshuggah. Their polyrythms just confuse the hell out of me.

[Maiorem]

Well to me Demon Hunter is close to being metalcore.

[Charliehsv]

Hm, yeah I was just wondering. Nothing against metalcore anyway, despite all the badmouthing there're some very decent metalcore bands.

[Maiorem]

Heck, Demon Hunter performed My Heartstrings Come Undone for Resident Evil: Extinction. (okay, the movie sucked, but the song was still good)

[xqwertyx]

as blood runs black
darkest hour
in flames
as i lay dying
it dies today
killswitch engage
silent civilian
mnemic
job for a cowboy
amon amarth
the black dahlia murder

[Wolfs Reign]

Silent Civilian kicks ass. Definitely one of the best newer metal bands out there.

[Drunkentso]

If you all like metal, then listen to DJ Power Surge, Keggy, and myself Ribcage at http://www.BlackSquirrelRadio.com
Wednesdays from 4-6 EST.

Best college metal show ever!

[b3p]

what kind of bands?

[Charliehsv]

Silent Civilian kicks ass. Definitely one of the best newer metal bands out there.

With newer do you mean their style or when they were formed? If you mean the style some of my favourites are Caliban, All That Remains and Heaven Shall Burn.

Btw, does anyone of you know the finnish melodic death band Insomnium? They're awesome playing nice "old school" melodic death.

Listen and enjoy, Mortal Share - Insomnium
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5IpHczLeV8

[b3p]

They sound familiar, im gonna download some,
anyone listened to Abominable putridity? amazing slam death for anyone interested in that sort of metal,
and hypocrit much? insulting as i lay dying then saying you like caliban......hmmmmm, not that i dont like caliban but you know

[Charliehsv]

Why hypocrite? So If i dislike one metalcore band I've to dislike them all? That logic fails.

[FullThrottle]

Btw, does anyone of you know the finnish melodic death band Insomnium? They're awesome playing nice "old school" melodic death.

Listen and enjoy, Mortal Share - Insomnium

Mortal Share is the only song I've heard from them and it was 6 months ago... Didn't like it then, but now it sounds much better for some reason :S

From Melodeath genre, Norther is the only band I really like :smile:

Dont know if you're already discussed about them here but Death Unlimited (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUUo9crSdf8) kicks butt \,,/

[Charliehsv]

But Amon Amarth is melodic death and they're in your list :p And I don't consider Norther to be melodic death, but whatever :D

Edit: Btw, what are your thoughts on the lastest Norther album? I didn't like it that much :(

[FullThrottle]

Amon Amarth is melodeath yeah, but I think Norther is the definition of melodic death metal =)

Haven't heard their newest album yet, I'm gonna buy it as soon as I get the money >.>

[Charliehsv]

Haha ok :D If I were to pick an album which imo defines melodic death it'd be either The Jester Race by In Flames or Slaughter Of The Soul by At The Gates :D
Can't wait to see both bands this summer :D

[FullThrottle]

The Jester Race is a pioneer for Melodeath, every song on it is amazing :D

Anyway, you ever heard Engel? I saw them live when they were warming up for Amon Amarth which was warming up for Dimmu Borgir... I don't know what they sound like on CD but they pretty much sucked live :P

It was like a cheap imitation of In Flames x_x

[Charliehsv]

Yeah, I saw Engel during the same tour. They were decent live, although they only got like 2-3 songs I like. And them sounding like In Flames is no surprise, since their Guitarrist Niclas Engelin has filled in for either Björn or Jesper from In Flames during their tours. Also Engel's album was recorded at In Flames studios xD

[FullThrottle]

I liked Engel's drummer and bassist but the songs just weren't that cool... It must have been better in Sweden since everybody probably knows them there :/

Here in Finland no one really cared about them, everyone came to see Amon Amarth and/or Dimmu Borgir...

[Charliehsv]

Hm maybe, since most people know Engel here. Although Dimmu Borgir sucked. Their bassist was gone so they had the clean vocals on playback ><. Amon Amarth was easily the best band that evening.

[FullThrottle]

It was such a disappointment when Vortex and Hellhammer were both missing :(

I still liked the show and every song they played... By the way: I got Amon Amarth's guitarist's pick that evening :D

[Charliehsv]

Haha nice :D Well i saw Dimmu at Wacken that summer, so compared to that show, the one with Amon Amarth really sucked :<
Bah, I need to a gig again. It's been almost been 3 weeks since i saw the last band :/.

[b3p]

Why hypocrite? So If i dislike one metalcore band I've to dislike them all? That logic fails.

no just two extremley similair metalcore bands,
and im lucky in gig sense cause manchesters got a huge metal scene if you know where to go so theres gigs like every single week

[Charliehsv]

I don't find them to be similar at all, but w/e.

There are usually some local gigs going on at some clubs, but I haven't found the time lately due to other stuff >< I might go see Raised Fist in early april though, although thats a loooong way off. Ah well, I guess thats what you get for having an insane fall/winter concert season. There were like major acts playing here at least every second week o_O

[Wolfs Reign]

I just got BFMV's new album. It's pretty decent with a couple exceptions. They did a really good cover of Creeping Death by Metallica though.

[Fornicaras]

I don't Like BFMV, but some of their new riffs are pretty good.

[b3p]

Yer last like 3 months of last year i was at least 1 gig a week, it was insane the amount of bands playing

[ruinthps]

CRYPTOPSY FTMFW

[Charliehsv]

I don't like BFMV either. The song I heard from the new albums totally reminds me of Trivium's The Crusade. And that isn't really a compliment :p

[Wolfs Reign]

The Crusade sucked balls hardcore. Listen to Eye Of The Storm off of BFMV's new album, its a pretty sweet song.

[FullThrottle]

The Crusade sucked balls hardcore.
http://www.stealthbadger.com/content/images/gtfo.jpg

The Crusade is one of the finest metal albums ever made :amused:

[Wolfs Reign]

Are you kidding?!?!?!?!?! The Crusade was a mockery to what Trivium once stood for. The Ascendancy, now theres a good metal album.

[FullThrottle]

now that you put it that way... The Ascendancy is better than The Crusade imo just because of the better vocals (I hate the Hetfield imitation on The Crusade >.<).

The Crusade might be a disappointment for hardcore Trivium fans yes, but as a metal album it is one the best. (hope you get what I mean... I'm not trying to flame you, just trying to make a point with my poor vocabulary x_x)

[Charliehsv]

Trivium were a atleast decent metalcore act beofore The Crusade. The Crusade is just a pseudo-thrash mockery of Metallica. Those guys can play, but they're just ripping off other bands. And the suck live, I've seen them 3 times so far, I hope I'm never forced to do that again ><.

[Drunkentso]

Remember to tune in today from 4-6 PM EST for a Metal show that will melt your minds!
http://www.blacksquirrelradio.com

[FullThrottle]

lol, if I'm gonna listen to Internet Radio then it's gonna be http://death.fm... Best Extreme Metal radio out there \,,/:push:\,,/

[Drunkentso]

lol, if I'm gonna listen to Internet Radio then it's gonna be http://death.fm... Best Extreme Metal radio out there \,,/:push:\,,/

Can you make requests from Death.FM? We may not have the variety they do, but we have plenty of stuff to make our show the most metal show of any college radio. You should listen for a bit and try it out.

[FullThrottle]

yeah you can request but the delay is mostly 2 to 3 hours. I didn't know that was your radio... gonna check it out someday :)

edit: sounded cool, they played Cowboys From Hell \,,/

[Wolfs Reign]

now that you put it that way... The Ascendancy is better than The Crusade imo just because of the better vocals (I hate the Hetfield imitation on The Crusade >.<).

The Crusade might be a disappointment for hardcore Trivium fans yes, but as a metal album it is one the best. (hope you get what I mean... I'm not trying to flame you, just trying to make a point with my poor vocabulary x_x)

Alright well I'll agree with you there, but you know if something from the Crusade came on the radio you'd shut it off. And if you've heard their cover of Master Of Puppets.....I nearly cried....they destroyed that song

[b3p]

Trivium, really? were now counting them as extreme metal? they are a horrible abomination on the face of metal and they should die, more than angela gossow, they are a fucking disgrace to metal, bunch of faggot fucking sell outs, and dont think i wouldnt say this to them because i have, from the front row of a show they supported at, and the bassist took note and turned his feedback up, i have no problems with a band that his skill and or are decent people but corey is a fucking cunt, not opinion, for a fact he is a cunt, and not saying anyone hear is doing this but people just jump on there fucking bandwagon like light to a fly(pun intended) and if your not one of the people who has fair play to you, but dont continue to listen to them after they blatantly sold out just to get more record sales

[Wolfs Reign]

And thats what we would call "The Crusade"

[b3p]

Ye, i should have just said that......
early stuff is horrible as well in my opinion but thats more based on an opinion of there talent and such rather than selling out

[Charliehsv]

Atleast they SOMEWHAT had their own sound in their early days (except that they recycled tons of gothenburg riffs) ><

[b3p]

Somewhat i do agree still didnt really like em though

[Charliehsv]

Neither do I, but atleast you could listen to them without wanting to throw your speakers out of the window.

[b3p]

Oh no i did, but it was like....well its not bad enough to make me want to get up and go to the window

[Ichigo6739]

black Sabbath the inventors of metal
and
Pantera Cowboys from hell baby

[FullThrottle]

^not exactly Extreme Metal :P

Or is Pantera extreme? Black Sabbath ain't thats for sure...

[Charliehsv]

Nah, they aren't extreme. Still awesome stuff though!

[Joji]

Pantera is thrash.

Thrash is the best form of metal ever.

[Wolfs Reign]

Yeah it is. Kill 'Em All is one of the best thrash albums out there. I really don't like anything past Master of Puppets by Metallica, but their first album is the shit. Their best stuff is definitely on that album, partly thanks to Mustaine.

[b3p]

Black sabbath are just metal, but they deserve a mention seeing as how they pretty much created metal

[Charliehsv]

I generally like thrash, but it tends to bore me after a while. If I listen to thrash it's usally either Slayer, Kreator, Sodom, old Metallica, old Sepultura or post-thrash stuff like Machine Head.

[Wolfs Reign]

I would say Black Sabbath are more of Hard Rock, they did create metal, but I just don't think their in the same category as say Slayer or bands like that who are definitely metal. It's like saying Led Zeppelin are metal because they helped create it.

[Mayuri]

I'm not quite sure about the specific categories of metal, but here's some of the bands I listen to.

- Chimaira (listen to "impossibility of reason" I'm tellin ya, it's pretty brutal)
- Dimmu Borgir
- Killswitch Engage
- Fear Factory
- Lamb of God
- Deicide

[FullThrottle]

^all of those are extreme metal

Dimmu Borgir and Deicide ftw! :D

[Wolfs Reign]

So what do you guys think of All That Remains? I think that Fall Of Ideals is okay but this Darkened Heart was definitely better.

[Fornicaras]

I never liked All That Remains, I can't get into metalcore.

My favorite band at the moment is Hecate Enthroned. WHat do you guys think of them?

[Wolfs Reign]

They're gods.

[b3p]

No theyre a mild metalcore band
Shannon lucas however is a fucking legend

[Charliehsv]

All That Remains are decent...some chilled out easy listening. But their vocalist can't sing live for shit.

[b3p]

Ha worst thing ever is when a good band is shit live, puts you write of them, i saw still remains a while ago and theyre terrible live

[Charliehsv]

Yeah, stuff like that is just a dissapointment...makes listening to the studio stuff alot more boring aswell, since you know that they'll never pull it off live ><

[Wolfs Reign]

But the bands that sound exactly like the record are awesome, like Slayer, saw them on the Unholy Alliance tour and they were fuckn great.

[Fornicaras]

Vesperian Sorrow live is Fucking Amazing.

[b3p]

Ai but as a live performance slayer got blown outa the water by lamb of god, but slayer are legends so no one cared

[Wolfs Reign]

I saw Lamb Of God at Ozzfest this year too and their sound was fucked up idk what they did but all u could hear was the bass and then random noise so it kinda blew.

[b3p]

Probably a fuck up by the sound man, i really dont like soundmen.....sons of bitchs

[Charliehsv]

Slayer got owned by In Flames here in Sweden at the Unholy Alliance....but it was an organizatorial mistake aswell. In Flames should have headlined the sweden gig, they're alot bigger than Slayer here....and so there were lots of people who left after In Flames already and didn't stay to see Slayer.

[FullThrottle]

Slayer got owned by In Flames here in Sweden at the Unholy Alliance....but it was an organizatorial mistake aswell. In Flames should have headlined the sweden gig, they're alot bigger than Slayer here....and so there were lots of people who left after In Flames already and didn't stay to see Slayer.
LOL!

Normally Slayer would beat In Flames 100-0... Guess there are just too many In Flames fans in Sweden :neutral:

[Charliehsv]

Tell me about it...Come Clarity topped the album charts for like 14 weeks o_O

[b3p]

It was like the first year here slipknot were after slayer but still the majority of people were like wtf?

[Fornicaras]

Tell me about it...Come Clarity topped the album charts for like 14 weeks o_O

Didn't they win a bunch of awards for it too?

[Charliehsv]

Yeah they did. I think they won in the category best Metal Album in the P3 gala (think swedish grammies lol) and various other awards from the major radio stations.

[Wolfs Reign]

Damn. Thats hard to comprehend, In Flames topping Slayer?? lol

[b3p]

Its countrys, there are much more popular metal bands than slayer in england as well, albums sales wise i mean, doesnt change the fact slayer are more legendary though

[FullThrottle]

Behemoth:
Conquer All (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38j-i8jH7xk)
The Alchemist's Dream (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJk6l5xfVDQ)
Christgrinding Avenue (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e2z24L5ENc)

Like? Anyone?

[Charliehsv]

Behemoth are awesome. One of my favourite black/death bands out there. The main riff of Conquer All is just epic. I just like their style with slower riffs with fast as hell drums.

[wouter]

I usually can't listen to that much Death Metal. I'll listen to Children of Bodom's remake of The Final Countdown, but that's it.

As for Thrash Metal, Metallica FTW.

Since when is Metallica Trash Metal?

Anyways, I like bands like Children of Bodom, Soilwork, Static-X, Slipknot, Rob Zombie, Pantera, Lamb of God, Disturbed and many more.

[Wolfs Reign]

Since when is Metallica THrash Metal?

Since Metallica invented Thrash Metal, go listen to Whiplash and tell me that isnt Thrash

[Charliehsv]

Since when is Metallica THrash Metal?

Anyways, I like bands like Children of Bodom, Soilwork, Static-X, Slipknot, Rob Zombie, Pantera, Lamb of God, Disturbed and many more.


><.
And early metallica is definately thrash.

[FullThrottle]

Behemoth are awesome. One of my favourite black/death bands out there. The main riff of Conquer All is just epic. I just like their style with slower riffs with fast as hell drums.
Those are things why I like Behemoth too... Plus their epic solos like in The Alchemist's Dream :)

They're easily one of my favorite bands.

[Charliehsv]

Yup, Nergal is a great guitarrist. The only thing i dislike about Behemoth is that sometimes the vocals are too layered and effected for my taste.

[b3p]

Mettalica, invented, thrash.......
yes.....clearly...can i point out that a majority of people, maybe not people you know but certainly people i know would call metallica heavy metal not thrash not that they had nothing to do with thrash, its just in my opinion the rise of thrash came from slayer, metallica may have been and are bigger but i dont really think they created thrash, in fact scrap that none of them did because they all took influences of earlier bands

[Wolfs Reign]

listen to their first album from 83

that started the thrash movement, and megadeth helped too since dave mustaine wrote half the songs on kill em all.

slayer started in the same year

4 bands created thrash: Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer, and Anthrax

[khmaniac101]

yea metallica is awesome ("am I evil" nuff said)

but I'm one of the few that likes megadeth and metallica at the same time (don't kill me)

[Wolfs Reign]

Megadeth>Metallica

[Fornicaras]

listen to their first album from 83

that started the thrash movement, and megadeth helped too since dave mustaine wrote half the songs on kill em all.

slayer started in the same year

4 bands created thrash: Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer, and Anthrax

You forget bands like Metal Church, Testament, Voivod, Forbidden, and Overkill.

[Wolfs Reign]

they came after the movement started

[Fornicaras]

Metal Church was around before Metallica.

Many of the bands started smae time as metallica, as well.

[Wolfs Reign]

but was their original thrash or more glam oriented?

[b3p]

Exodus as well, besides you cant cite metallica who are now massive sell outs and slayer and metallica released there first real albums at the same time, kill em all has initially only a small release and theres only something like 2000 copies made, the first album that made metallica who they are in my opinion is ride the lightning WHICH came out the same year as Haunting the chapel and fistful of metal, but to be honest we could argue about who the fore fathers are for ever because Sabbath were the first real metal band and they took their influences from hendrix and etc etc and it basically goes on like that for ever back to the time of the slave trade because black people created blues and soul and such which influenced all the way up to jimmi hendrix who influenced others and so on and so forth until metal was born,
Oh and for anyone interested Cynic are releasing a new album this year

[wouter]

I don't see Metallica being thrash metal though. ^^

Meh anyways, ^^

[FullThrottle]

I don't see Metallica being thrash metal though. ^^

fast tempo? check. speedy, agressive guitar riffs? check. (at least on their first album)

You could say they are Speed Metal or sometimes even regular Heavy Metal, but overall they're a Thrash metal band ;)

enough with this genre-fucking anyway xD. Talk about Slayer, I think their "God Hates Us All" album is the best

[Charliehsv]

Lol, imo God Hates Us All is a shitfest. If I'm forced to pick a favourite Slayer album it would either be South Of Heaven, Seasons In The Abyss or Reign In Blood. Probably Seasons In The Abyss though :P

[FullThrottle]

Somehow I like their newer stuff much more...Although Silent Scream is their best song ^^

[b3p]

Aint better at all, no offence like but i dont know one real slayer fan who would say that and ive got friends with the eagle and sword pentagram tattooed on them,
and in all fairness metallica are different if you compare them to alot of thrash bands

[FullThrottle]

exactly. There are "The Big Four" of thrash metal: Slayer, Metallica, Megadeth and Anthrax.

Each one of those has a different style :P

[wouter]

Slayer is a great band, but not one of my favorites though.

[Charliehsv]

I've never liked Anthrax, don't know why. -_- Compared to the other 3 bands they just don't stand a chance.

[FullThrottle]

I've never liked Anthrax, don't know why. -_- Compared to the other 3 bands they just don't stand a chance.
yeah. I've heard a song or two by them and they just don't stand out :P

[wouter]

Anthrax - Got the time
That's a great song imo, I don't know much songs of them though.

[b3p]

Ha i dont mind anthrax but i cant stand metallica

[-champloo-]

Has anyone mentioned Mudvayne? Most people consider them Death Metal, but they're slated as Nu Metal; I myself prefer not to categorize them.

Their music is actually quite good.

Very hard songs:
- Dig
- Solve Et Coagula
- Cradle
- Prod
- -1
- Silenced
- Everything and Nothing
- Dull Boy
- IMN
- Pushing Through
- Determined
- Tv. Radio.
- Just


Lightest Songs:
- World So Cold
- Not Falling
- Fall Into Sleep
- King of Pain(a cover for the Police, and it's actually REALLY good)

Intermediate: (?)
- Death Blooms
- Crawling
- Choices
- All That You Are
- Happy?
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[Fornicaras]

Probably because Mudvayne ISN'T death metal. Hell, they don't even fall under Extreme.

Want death metal? Listen to Disgorge, Impaled, Severed Savior, Internal Suffering, Dying Fetus, Ect.

[-champloo-]

Probably because Mudvayne ISN'T death metal. Hell, they don't even fall under Extreme.

Want death metal? Listen to Disgorge, Impaled, Severed Savior, Internal Suffering, Dying Fetus, Ect.

Someone didn't understand my post, at all.

[FullThrottle]

Someone didn't understand my post, at all.
well this thread IS "Extreme Metal" :D

[b3p]

Mudvaynes bassist is gd and the drummers mild, the guitarist typical and i shit all over the singer vocals

[-champloo-]

Mudvaynes bassist is gd and the drummers mild, the guitarist typical and i shit all over the singer vocals

Right now, I wouldn't doubt that... His voice has changed alot, and he doesn't quite have control over it for the time being.

However, all of the stuff from the L.D. 50 album has really sweet vocals that flow with the type of song. They put on one hell of a show live, or they used to anyway.

The bass player is my favorite bassist in the past like, 20 years. Slap bass in metal? what? lol

[b3p]

There are easily better metal bassists but hes is pretty good, and i hate him because hes part of hell yeah, the singer i mean, its the biggest sell out band ever

[Wolfs Reign]

I think they're more of a supergroup then a sell out band, I mean, who wouldn't buy an album that had metals finest in it?

[b3p]

Someone who has taste, fuck nothingface there shit anyways, the singer as i said, well the majority of bands singers are better, and vinnie paul is the fucking sell out who used his brothers death as a handle back on the fucking ladder, i mean its a fucking disgrace, dimes wife has been doing interviews since his death and getting free shit just cause she was dimes wife, she doesnt fucking do anything, and these are the mother fuckers who banned phil anselmo, who was like a fucking brother to dime before the arguments and break up of pantera, from dimes fucking funeral, even after he made a video publically apologising about what he had said and he fucking broke down on it and vinnie paul is the scum who wouldnt let one of his brothers good friends despite there differences near his funeral so anything vinnie paul does besides the stuff he did with damage plan and pantera disgusts me

[Fornicaras]

^That's why I can't stand Pantera.

[Charliehsv]

I mostly like Pantera. I mean, come on, songs like Cowboys From Hell, The Art To Shred or Walk are just a must on any party.

[b3p]

You dont like pantera because of fans? im fucking dedicated i admit that i have a pantera tattoo that says rip dime and a cfh tattoo but thats not the point, at the end of the day what vinnie did was bullshit and if you want to deny that fine but dont fucking insult me, i listen to every kind of music, so dont fucking think i dont know what im talking about

[Wolfs Reign]

@b3p When did anyone insult you???

Pantera was a great band, but in hearing what b3p said, I have to agree

[b3p]

Fornicaras or at least he made it seem that way,
and good glad someone agrees, i am a massive fan of phil anselmo i mean ive got a down tattoo as well as the pantera ones but im also a massive dime n rex fan, and i was with vinnie until a while ago

[Fornicaras]

No, I just never liked Pantera, I thought they were overrated from the beginning.

They have a few good songs, but alot of the stupid fans who are all over anything Dimebag related kinda kill it for me.

Phil Anselmo is the shit though, Superjoint Ritual FTW.

[b3p]

I dont just love them cause of dime, in all fairness i actually personally know guitarists who were probably better but dime had a pretty revolutionary style, main reason is cause of phil though.

[Wolfs Reign]

Yeah, he has a pretty unique voice. Rebel Meets Rebel was basically the same thing just with a different singer and look how that turned out O.O

[wouter]

No, I just never liked Pantera, I thought they were overrated from the beginning.

They have a few good songs, but alot of the stupid fans who are all over anything Dimebag related kinda kill it for me.

Phil Anselmo is the shit though, Superjoint Ritual FTW.

Pantera is one of the best, period.

[Drunkentso]

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[b3p]

What kind of metal is it? give band names?

[Charliehsv]

Btw...what do you guys think of Folk Metal? It's starting to become REALLY popular around here.

Inis Mona - Eluveitie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iijKLHCQw5o

Token Of Time - Ensiferum (not the actualy music video, just listen to the song though :amused:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGFwWlDNckk

[Fornicaras]

Does Fintroll count as folk metal?

Fintroll was gnarly, I loved them.

[Charliehsv]

Yeah, Finntroll is folk metal. They're fun :D And the sing in swedish:ninja:

[Wolfs Reign]

I like Folk Metal, I always thought it was called sword metal though, but whatever.

One Rode To Asa Bay by Bathory is an awesome folk metal song ^^

[b3p]

haha i everyone i know calls it battle metal, but ai its not the worst form of metal ever devised and there are some all right bands like finntroll

[Charliehsv]

I usually like it, but not whens too much folk and too little metal....like Korpiklaani ><. Now there you have a band that really sucks.

[Wolfs Reign]

Rhapsody is a wicked good sword metal band. Or Rhapsody Of Fire. They changed their name cuz of copyright infringements but idk if they changed it back.

[b3p]

Im sick, pissed off, and offended,
has anyone heard the new cryptopsy material that was leaked?
because if you havnt and you want to retain any respect for the band, dont listen to it

[Charliehsv]

Haven't listened to it.
And LOL Rhapsody Of Fire.....that band is just a joke....seriously ><

[Fornicaras]

Im sick, pissed off, and offended,
has anyone heard the new cryptopsy material that was leaked?
because if you havnt and you want to retain any respect for the band, dont listen to it

Anything after None So Vile fucking blows.

[b3p]

Yer but at least once was not sounded like cryptopsy,

[FullThrottle]

Ensiferum, Amon Amarth, Korpiklaani and Moonsorrow are all good Folk Metal bands.

Charliehsv: you say Korpiklaani sucks... How come? It's the only band I know that is dedicated to only folk metal. Unlike Ensiferum and Amon Amarth that have influences from folk music :/

[Charliehsv]

I don't like Korpiklaani because it's just too much folk and too little metal...where as bands such as Ensiferum have the perfect amount of folk metal blended with other genres.

[Wolfs Reign]

Haven't listened to it.
And LOL Rhapsody Of Fire.....that band is just a joke....seriously ><

Idc what you say, Emerald Sword is awesome XD

[Charliehsv]

Haha...the video of Rain Of A Thousand Flames(I think that's the song's title) is just awesome XD

[Wolfs Reign]

lmao yeah. I love how they're swinging a sword around and then it cuts to some random naked chick dancing lol.

[Charliehsv]

New In Flames album has leaked.....I like it sofar, although some of the clean vocals are kind of weird.

[Wolfs Reign]

The entire album?

[Charliehsv]

Yup the entire album. :D All I can say after 1 listen is that I like it. Sure, the cleans are as I said abit odd , but what the hell, their guitar melodies are better than they've been a long time.

[Wolfs Reign]

So is it like a retake back to Clayman? (dling in progress)

[Charliehsv]

Hm, I wouldn't really say that. I mean, the album is really different to Clayman, but you definately hear some of their older influences in there (like acoustic bridges, those uber-melodic lead guitars). But the guitar tone is completely different (sounds like it's tuned down to A# to me) and the vocals are completely different aswell.

And yes, there is the song "The Chosen Pessimist" which is just fucking weird by In Flames standarts. Sounds like Anders's sideproject Passenger, which is some kind of alternative metal/rock mix band.

[Wolfs Reign]

O.o Why would the other members agree to do something like that? Enh whatever as long as theres some good songs on the album in general it won't bug me that much.

[Charliehsv]

Hm, it's growing on me, even "The Chosen Pessimist". But whoa, that song is going to get so much shit from many metalheads.

[FullThrottle]

I wish they would make something like The Jester Race again ^^