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KING GRIMMJOW
03-17-2008, 12:24 PM
Ichigo has stong reiatsu and the ability to use bankai,Old man Yama has recognised that Ichigo is powerful,and would be able to guide him to reach his full potential.:amused:

kochito22
03-17-2008, 12:33 PM
i suppose that he could but i'm not sure if he would. being a captain is a full time job and he's 15 years old. if he does, it'll happen in the distant future

KING GRIMMJOW
03-17-2008, 12:41 PM
i suppose that he could but i'm not sure if he would. being a captain is a full time job and he's 15 years old. if he does, it'll happen in the distant future

(thinking outside the box)but surely when he finds out about his father being a
captain class shinigami he might fell its hes destiny.:amused:

MCAV
03-17-2008, 12:43 PM
...Wouldn't he have to actually...you know, DIE first..?
It would also slow his ageing down.
He went back to earth before, so he won't ever do that till the day he dies...

KING GRIMMJOW
03-17-2008, 12:51 PM
...Wouldn't he have to actually...you know, DIE first..?
It would also slow his ageing down.
He went back to earth before, so he won't ever do that till the day he dies...

but didnt he already die when Urahara cut his soul chain.

bigcarm
03-17-2008, 01:01 PM
but didnt he already die when Urahara cut his soul chain.

beat me to it.

yeah, i think he's technically dead now. poor guy. he'd just begun to live.

pooker
03-17-2008, 01:31 PM
I think he definately will as time moves on, he is still a baby in terms of pretty much every shinigami. He has alot of potential, maybe something new for after WW. >.<

Whyte Bler 000
03-17-2008, 01:46 PM
never, he will never become a captain. why, because he is a vizard now. the only two people in SS who have any idea about his powers are Rukia and her brother. And her brother never saw him in control of his hollow powers. What happens when there's a huge battle and the other captains, especially Yama, see Ichigo bring out his mask? The other vizards have already been exiled, so as things stand he would not be welcomed back.

kochito22
03-17-2008, 01:57 PM
soul society's been known to change their verdict on decisions before. before, sado, uryuu, inoue, and ichigo were supposed to be captured. now they work together.

KING GRIMMJOW
03-17-2008, 02:15 PM
soul society's been known to change their verdict on decisions before. before, sado, uryuu, inoue, and ichigo were supposed to be captured. now they work together.

Wouldnt it be a thought that Old man Yama would want Ichigo under some form of supervision because of his vizard transformation,so to make him a captain
not only does he get to use his strengh but watch him at the same time,so that
if the hollow inside ever surficed of its own will,which say it did, there maybe a future threat to SS.:amused:

Skyhawk
03-17-2008, 02:16 PM
if the vizards help during WW they might be reaccepted into the SS as a whole (possible 14th Squad?) and even if thats not the case could old man yama not turn a blind eye to Ichigos condition because of how big of an ally he will be in the WW and allow him to stay.. plus as said above allowing Ichigo to stay as part of the SS would make him easy to keep an eye on him...but even so Ichigo is young and to be a captain u need to live in the SS so i dont see it happening unless it happens in like a time skip at the very end

Whyte Bler 000
03-17-2008, 02:24 PM
i agree with you guys, but look at some of the decisions Yama has made in the series. He goes along with the execution of Rukia, he attacks two of his best captains. Abandons Orihime when she is kidnapped, assuming she has defected. He's an incredibly strong fighter, but a poor decision maker. I can only think that if SS comes out on top of this war with Aizen and HM, he will turn his attenntion out to other threats. He may see the Vizards being to dangerous to let exist, and my try to exterminate them. More than likely I will be completely wrong, but if the story were to continue on after Aizen I see this as a possibility. And Ichigo will once again be fighting SS and the powered up captains. There are some other reasons too I think. Chad's powers being similiar to hollows leaves room for speculation, Nell obviously wanting to go with Ichigo, I see Grimmjaw siding with Ichigo, in addition to the Vizards activiely recruiting him leaves room for Yama to make another bad decision.

Skyhawk
03-17-2008, 02:27 PM
all because of his devoution to the law of the central 46...which is now dead so who know what he might do if its left up to him

KING GRIMMJOW
03-17-2008, 02:29 PM
i agree with you guys, but look at some of the decisions Yama has made in the series. He goes along with the execution of Rukia, he attacks two of his best captains. Abandons Orihime when she is kidnapped, assuming she has defected. He's an incredibly strong fighter, but a poor decision maker. I can only think that if SS comes out on top of this war with Aizen and HM, he will turn his attenntion out to other threats. He may see the Vizards being to dangerous to let exist, and my try to exterminate them. More than likely I will be completely wrong, but if the story were to continue on after Aizen I see this as a possibility. And Ichigo will once again be fighting SS and the powered up captains. There are some other reasons too I think. Chad's powers being similiar to hollows leaves room for speculation, Nell obviously wanting to go with Ichigo, I see Grimmjaw siding with Ichigo, in addition to the Vizards activiely recruiting him leaves room for Yama to make another bad decision.

Old man Yama was following orders (atleast he thought he was)when Rukia was to be executed,orders from the high court .

Kiyuu
03-17-2008, 02:36 PM
but didnt he already die when Urahara cut his soul chain.

more like Urahara cut his soul away from his physical body.
If dead mean the soul leaving the body then yea I guess Ichigo is dead already.

Whyte Bler 000
03-17-2008, 02:48 PM
Old man Yama was following orders (atleast he thought he was)when Rukia was to be executed,orders from the high court .

yeah i know, remember the speech about justice he had with Ukitake and Shunsui. It would be interesting to see what his justice is. I just think he will make a bad decision.

KING GRIMMJOW
03-17-2008, 02:54 PM
yeah i know, remember the speech about justice he had with Ukitake and Shunsui. It would be interesting to see what his justice is. I just think he will make a bad decision.

What your saying is true,when he fought Ukitake and Shunsui the speach
made it sound like, justice is what he says justice is.

Skyhawk
03-17-2008, 02:57 PM
he mentions that the worlds justice as in the SSs version of justice overides personal justice...

Whyte Bler 000
03-17-2008, 03:04 PM
and without the 46 court, his justice is now SS justice. i hope they get a new court soon. unless the Soul King actually comes into play.

KING GRIMMJOW
03-17-2008, 03:35 PM
if the vizards help during WW they might be reaccepted into the SS as a whole (possible 14th Squad?) and even if thats not the case could old man yama not turn a blind eye to Ichigos condition because of how big of an ally he will be in the WW and allow him to stay.. plus as said above allowing Ichigo to stay as part of the SS would make him easy to keep an eye on him...but even so Ichigo is young and to be a captain u need to live in the SS so i dont see it happening unless it happens in like a time skip at the very end

Maybe make him Captain of 14th squad vizard division in the real world:idea:

Amata
03-17-2008, 03:41 PM
He may do if he ever dies and goes to Soul Society, but he won't be anything but a substitute while he's still alive. And maybe not then, considering how short-sighted I see Yama-jii being on the subject of Vizards.

zangetsuclan
03-17-2008, 05:35 PM
he does have potental but i doubt, since being a vizard, hell be allowed

djray
03-17-2008, 08:52 PM
i doubt it not until he dies and then i dont think hell remember once he dies

bankai753
03-30-2008, 04:56 PM
Ichigo has stong reiatsu and the ability to use bankai,Old man Yama has recognised that Ichigo is powerful,and would be able to guide him to reach his full potential.:amused:

doubt it highly since hes a vizard now

lightxdark
03-30-2008, 09:17 PM
Negatory Ghostrider. I don't think Kubo will really go for a cliche approach. Just in my oppinion of course.

LONEWOLF231
03-30-2008, 09:54 PM
never, he will never become a captain. why, because he is a vizard now. the only two people in SS who have any idea about his powers are Rukia and her brother. And her brother never saw him in control of his hollow powers. What happens when there's a huge battle and the other captains, especially Yama, see Ichigo bring out his mask? The other vizards have already been exiled, so as things stand he would not be welcomed back.




Im pretty sure they are aware of Ichigos Hollow powers by now i doubt something as big as this would escape them!

That Karma Guy
03-31-2008, 09:41 AM
Nah it's like kenpachi said, Ichigo's job is to protect his town

Johan Brokai
03-31-2008, 11:12 AM
hes not level-headed enough to be a captian
ts ichigos fault why theres 4 captians stuck in Hueco mundo

folly
03-31-2008, 12:04 PM
Ichigo certainly has the strength to become a captain but I feel he's just a bit too reckless (reckless is possilby a poor choice of words?) at the moment. Could you imagine if, for example, Rukia was kidnapped again and he was ordered to remain at SS. I doubt very much he would be able to follow such an order.

Prehaps in the future when hes settled down a little :)

X-soldier
04-01-2008, 05:12 PM
maybe someday we will see ichigo as a captain, my guess is it probably wont be until another bleach series comes out. like how theres dragon ball and dragon ball z there might be like a bleach X or something were ichigo is older and maybe a captain. As for the vizard thing, i think as long as Yama is around ichigo wont become a captain because Yama seems to stick by tradition more and i doubt he wouldn't stand for a vizard coming into the shinigami ranks, especially not as a captain.

Silva
04-01-2008, 06:46 PM
Ichigo certainly has the strength to become a captain but I feel he's just a bit too reckless (reckless is possilby a poor choice of words?) at the moment. Could you imagine if, for example, Rukia was kidnapped again and he was ordered to remain at SS. I doubt very much he would be able to follow such an order.

Prehaps in the future when hes settled down a little :)

If recklessness was a reason not to be a captain, then Kenpachi simply wouldn't be one. Besides, Ichigo has already defeated a captain (Kuchiki Byakuya) in battle and so has already fulfilled one of the three ways to become a captain as previously noted by Tosen.

When Ichigo ceases being able to interact with normal Earth people (i.e. truly dies), I strongly suspect he will become a captain for defeating a captain earlier. It might also happen out of necessity, since Soul Society relies so heavily upon its captains and has now lost so many.

In the meantime, I think Ichigo will stay a Death God "substitute" and be the main protector of Earth against Hollows and other spiritual beings. In a way, the authority already given to him as that position is greater than that of a captain, since he holds the fort while the captains are mooching around in Soul Society.

The Grand Vizard
04-02-2008, 11:04 AM
The defeat has to be in front of 200 witnesses and you'll take over the defeated Captain's division. Not only were there no witnesses I doubt Ichigo wants to unseat Byakyuya. Furthermore there's the fact he's a Vizard(spirit type) if they let him in they'll have to accept the Vizard(group) back as well and there's more suitable Captain material than Ichigo among them.

PinkDye
04-08-2008, 08:15 PM
Wouldnt it be a thought that Old man Yama would want Ichigo under some form of supervision because of his vizard transformation,so to make him a captain
not only does he get to use his strengh but watch him at the same time,so that
if the hollow inside ever surficed of its own will,which say it did, there maybe a future threat to SS.:amused:

Not really, the remaining captains can subdue him easily.
Ichigo was already half dead vs. Bya-kun, that was with Bankai.
Even if his hollow surfaced and his powers X5 or something, he can't overrun SS.

But it'll be cool to watch old man Yama take Ichigo under his wing, maybe tutor him and assign him a spot in the zero div.

evil_mist
04-08-2008, 08:17 PM
i dont really think he wants to be a captain

hes more concerned about family and friends
i dont think he will leave them all like that

Random
04-08-2008, 08:21 PM
well I don't think there will be an opening for him as a captain anyway, till kubo explains more about isshin and who TF he is or was relating to shinigami will have an impact on whether ichgio should be come a captain. atm there is no need for ichigo to be a captain, it wouldn't help progress the manga and would just be a pointless fan service fan service.

renishi
04-09-2008, 06:57 AM
/agree random ~ if ichigo become a capt then is the end of story~ and why would he wans to work for SS~ i cant figure any reason

TW501
04-09-2008, 11:23 AM
When he's dead he'll almost certainly become a captain, but for now I don't think so.

Vamyan
09-03-2008, 08:15 AM
I'm not sure if Ichigo is actually dead, it would make more sense if he was, I reckon he will become a Captain eventually and will be captain of the squad that Isshin was a part of, similar to how Byakuya took over as 6th Squad Captain from his grandfather

wintaer
09-03-2008, 09:10 AM
I think eventually he may become one, but would probably only take place if like KT wrote an epilogue or whatever

m.messiah
09-03-2008, 09:34 AM
Ichigo just fights for his own reasons that protecting people.
I don't think he will stay in Soul Society.
Anyway,he is still a human.
Maybe he would be a ture Shinigami when he died.
Soul Society has a series of complecated rules,making people keep it.
But Ichigo is a man who always likes breaking the rules that he doesn't agree with.
So it may be impossible for him to be a captain.

Dain
09-03-2008, 01:53 PM
I think that Ichigo would probably turn down a captain's seat if it were offered to him... it wouldn't help him protect the people he cares about, which is his main motivation.

Chimp Dudley
09-03-2008, 03:00 PM
I doubt Ichigo will become a captain especially since he's still alive and I doubt he would give up his life with all the living people he cares about. Also, I don't see Ichigo as one to want to be an authority figure.

sean_sobes
09-04-2008, 11:21 AM
it will never happen. but if arnold could become governer, then ichigo can become a captain.

Vermillian_Grimmjow
09-04-2008, 12:02 PM
well I don't think there will be an opening for him as a captain anyway, till kubo explains more about isshin and who TF he is or was relating to shinigami will have an impact on whether ichgio should be come a captain. atm there is no need for ichigo to be a captain, it wouldn't help progress the manga and would just be a pointless fan service fan service.


I dotn see why there wouldnt be room.

Currently 5th and 9th are captainless and it is starting to seem that amagai will soon joi nthe traitors and reopen the 3rd.

Vermillian_Grimmjow
09-04-2008, 12:03 PM
it will never happen. but if arnold could become governer, then ichigo can become a captain.

Also He isn't goverer he is.. The Goverator.

justin43
09-06-2008, 09:49 AM
Ichigo is technically dead since his soul chain was cutted by Urahara back when Ichigo almost turned into a hollow to get his shingami powers back. The only issues with Ichigo being a captain are these:

1. Will a vaizard be allowed to take a captain position or even be offered a captain position? This will depend on how the Gotei 13 views the vaizards when they enter the Winter War.

2. Will Ichigo accept a captain position if he is offered one? Like other people have said, Ichigo may not want to hammer down by rules. However, I can see Ichigo being an authority figure since he basically leads his own group of friends. Rukia may convince Ichigo to accept. Another factor may be Isshin since he is a shingami himself.

Yoruichi-hime
09-08-2008, 04:17 AM
if he dies as a human being then he'll probably become a taichou in SS

Hiwapi
09-08-2008, 05:34 AM
if he dies as a human being then he'll probably become a taichou in SS

Techically he is already dead :amused:

i believe that with his development,he will surely one day become taicho..not yet though..he doesnt have the experience generally to become a captain at this moment
in the future deffinetely we are gona see him at one div giving orders :amused:

BRUTE BANKI
09-08-2008, 05:03 PM
I dout ichigo would become captain maybe soul king or a very powerful postion because ichigo is already captain class

aajj1144
09-08-2008, 05:46 PM
^^ no offense but that is like the least possible thing that could happen.

Toshiroh22
09-08-2008, 06:20 PM
For the most part all of the officers seem to have a certain level of intelligence that Ichigo isn't at.. He has a lot of growing up to do, so if anything he'll grow up, die, and once he is there for good he might have a shot at becoming a captain..

I wonder however if he will keep his powers after he dies, I mean he is like the only human who can go into spirit form.. Without dieing that is, so when he eventually dies is his spirit going to be what it is now, or is he going to pretty much be born anew not remembering anything and have to re-develop his powers.. If so that would change everything..

BRUTE BANKI
09-08-2008, 07:51 PM
If ichigo is not captain class because he is not well skilled in sword or soul reaper smart,... his strenght is proven to be a captain level power said by azien and byakuyo(cant really spelled his name)

Toshiroh22
09-08-2008, 09:05 PM
It hardly matters though, that's like saying because someone is superior in strength they should be in a leadership position.. Which isn't true at all..

But you are correct he does have the correct POWER to be of a captain level, just does not have the correct features to actually be a captain I think..

fifenfk
09-09-2008, 04:44 AM
Ichigo for captain....IMO No i seriously doubt he'd want the burden of yama-jii's absolute rule and the responsibility of doing as he is told really goes against the character i've come to know.Ichigo is the rogue type not too much concerned with anything besides whats happening in his own circle.If he was to die and end up in SS who knows maybe the responsibility might appeal to him since then he'd have a entire squad to protect not just a few friends.

sakura
09-11-2008, 05:42 AM
i think ichigo might be a captain.. after he die coz living people not spose to live in SS.
yes, he got very vast and huge power and still improving and no sign of limitation..
but he still need to learn how to control his reitsu.
maybe, after he die and go to shinigami academy, he will be able become real shinigami. by the way, he is subtitute shinigami now.

lisyaoran
09-12-2008, 05:02 AM
never, he will never become a captain. why, because he is a vizard now. the only two people in SS who have any idea about his powers are Rukia and her brother. And her brother never saw him in control of his hollow powers. What happens when there's a huge battle and the other captains, especially Yama, see Ichigo bring out his mask? The other vizards have already been exiled, so as things stand he would not be welcomed back.

it's true, but I think, Ichigo could change the SS rules forever..as he has been recognized by Yama-ji and many people trust him, so he can become captain, or maybe captain-commender replacing Yama-ji. lol~~

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Gerra
09-17-2008, 06:41 AM
I don't think he will become a captain..there's no way he can bear with the rigid rules in SS..

lurch
09-17-2008, 07:09 AM
HE WILL LIVE THE REAL LIFE 1ST. He is @ or getting to that point of power level though. the move depends on how the story plays out in the long run so IDK

Razvan_Asakura
09-17-2008, 07:21 AM
Don't think he'll be a captain . Guess , firstly , he doesen't like it there that much since in the first arc had to freakin' fight all of Seireitei to get Rukia back , and secondly , don't think KT will play things that way . Too corny .

anubis609
09-17-2008, 07:50 AM
Which 3 captains would actually allow him to pass the captain's test? They would be so fired for that....and DON'T SAY Aizen, Gin, and Tousen the Failure...that would've been too easy. Pick another 3.

lurch
09-17-2008, 07:58 AM
the key is not because of title of captain but if it meant to protect something he might.

but Ichigo is not Naruto he is not aiming for to rule of things as in a title of power. but to only back noble values he believes in and protect those who can"t

Captian-Ichigo
09-17-2008, 09:31 PM
I say he has the potential but will he want to become one or will they even let him...

I mean his father was one...

TokyoRacer
09-17-2008, 11:36 PM
It's an interesting question. Ichigo certainly qualifies for being a Captain. He has an incredibly strong reitisu. He has achieved Bankai, although he has not mastered it yet. He has defeated two captains - Kenpachi and Byakuya. (You might add Amagi to that list shortly) He fights for Soul Society. He fights in the real world.

There are problems though. Ichigo is still technically a human. Although he does have Shinigami powers, he is still human. He's not an official part of Soul Society - yet. Despite Ichigo's power, despite all his contributions to the greater good of Soul Society, and despite being approved and liked by majority of the captains, he still viewed as a "Substitute Shinigami". He's not viewed as a pure blooded member of Soul Society.

Even though Ichigo really is, given that his father is a former shinigami capatain, but that is a secret that nobody knows.

I think Ichigo becoming a captain would hurt his character. Ichigo is an amazingly complicated character. He's always fighting for something, and becoming a captain would take away from that. I like Ichigo the way he is.

Shiba_Kaien-182
09-18-2008, 01:20 PM
I don't think Ichigo would want to be a Captain and I think he'd rather stay in the world of the living with his family and friends as a human and protect them. It's true that some of the Captains and Lieutenants etc like him but it seems that Yamamoto slightly disapproves of him. And Yamamoto would go all grumpy(as he does) and make some rash desision if he finds out Ichigo is a Vaizard.

Skyhawk
09-18-2008, 01:26 PM
why would yama do that ichigos such an asset to the SS vizard or not i dont think even yamas stupid enough to discard him..also i could see ichigo as a captain possibly of his dad old squad or the 11th since him and kenny is so mutch a like

cort
09-19-2008, 09:30 AM
When he dies that's for sure .

joeshmoelb
09-19-2008, 10:17 AM
Well I would Say Ichigo Could become a captain but think he would rather not. and as for Yami and Ichigo's hollow mask as of the newest bleach he has seen it so we have only an episode or two until we see Yami's reaction.

Radenmaru
09-19-2008, 02:26 PM
Wouldnt it be a thought that Old man Yama would want Ichigo under some form of supervision because of his vizard transformation,so to make him a captain
not only does he get to use his strengh but watch him at the same time,so that
if the hollow inside ever surficed of its own will,which say it did, there maybe a future threat to SS.:amused:

That would be great, but unfortunately from what we've seen the central 46 is a lazy batch of lardoos that would rather fwap each other than really deal with anything.

So, when anything interupts said mutual fwapping, they tend to react with "kill it, we dont care what it is or why it is or how it got that way. It interrupted our circle jerk".

Case in point. If central 46 had detained the Vizard and Kiskue pending a full investigation into the incident they would have found out Aizen long before his plans where ready to hatch, and all this would have been avoided. I really hate those lazy ass salad tossers.

kicking ham
09-19-2008, 05:51 PM
I doubt he would become a cap'n he is only 15 years old. He is seriously lacking in the maturity department. Emotionally he doesn't have what it takes to be a cap'n in my opinion he would botch it.

Radenmaru
09-20-2008, 01:14 PM
I doubt he would become a cap'n he is only 15 years old. He is seriously lacking in the maturity department. Emotionally he doesn't have what it takes to be a cap'n in my opinion he would botch it.

I dont know about all that. He consistantly makes the correct descision even when everyone else is making the wrong one.

He's managed to make the right call on several occasions even when all the other captains and the central 46 (color me shocked) are making the wrong ones.

The captains meetings could gain alot from Ichigo's point of view IMHO.

JurkeY
10-08-2008, 07:55 AM
but didnt he already die when Urahara cut his soul chain.

Nope, because he turned into a shinigami, remember? The shinigami don't have the fate chain.

McFlyan
10-10-2008, 10:06 AM
I'm pretty sure he will eventually. When he finally does die he'll probably lose his memories when going into SS then Gotei 13 will find him, put him into the academy, then mold him to become a captain. But that's only speculation, nobody knows what's really going to happen

Xeroxes
10-10-2008, 10:12 AM
I personally think that he will not, due to the fact that he is not technically a shinigami, but a Vaizard, which I'm sure shinigami would frown upon that greatly. I could be very wrong though.

Stri
10-10-2008, 10:38 AM
Quite frankly. I doubt they would still look down upon the Vizards after all this time. Especially when these Vizards will potentially aid them in battle.

Xeroxes
10-10-2008, 10:52 AM
Point taken.

zZHasteZz
10-10-2008, 01:16 PM
I think its possible that he becomes one. but idk if he could cause his hollow.

Davo1515
10-10-2008, 01:44 PM
Ichigo wont bcom a captin. its not maturity, just look at kyoraku (no offense) or hitsu. i dont no if yama personally exiled vaizard, urahara, tessai bc im pretty sur thatd b up to C46, so it cant b based on that. so that might mean yama would b fine with vaizard ichi. yama had no reaction when ichi used his mask against Amagai (yes i no, filler).

BUT ichi didnt obey yama direct command to not go to HM and ichi isnt exactly the person to follo orders, esp if it gets in his way. i doubt ichi would want to b bossed around, and would like to stay in human world as much as pos, which as a capt, would b very littl. i sur that isshin wouldnt affect him to bcom a capt., isshin quit or was exiled so why would ichi want to be a capt noing that? he prob wouldnt.

Also, ichi is dead, ether from when he put rukias sword through his chest, or bc he dont hav soul chain thingy-ALL SR ARE DEAD. all died at some point and were taken to SS. EX: bya, rukia sis, rukia all had lifes as humans, plus (i no, filler) in BLEACH MOVIE 1, ichi asks ura: do soul reapers usually remember there human lives? or somthin like that...

lolz srry if it wasnt readabl b4

Tachikaze
10-10-2008, 02:17 PM
I agree with Davo, i really dont see ichigo in command of a squad and being told what to do, it would just cause them more problems, he may just stay as a substitute until he dies...

Afrojack
10-10-2008, 04:01 PM
Nope, because he turned into a shinigami, remember? The shinigami don't have the fate chain.

That makes no sense. Shingami are just as dead as pluses. Ichigo had his chain cut, which basically makes his body a functioning Gigai.

About taking orders, Ichigo has never shown IIRC a problem following instructions, just wrong instructions. Also, the Captains seem to be able to do pretty much whatever they want during peacetime, or even during war. They get vague directions and then seem to handle it however seems fitting to them. I'm pretty sure Ichigo will be able to fit into that system after the war ends, if not now, and especially after he rushes through the academy (formality).

Davo1515
10-10-2008, 06:23 PM
actually, i dont think capts realy alowed to leave SS, even in peace caus of all their paperwork, missions, and squad members who may or may not need attending to. plus, at any givin moment an att. could happen or a capt. meeting or something. im pretty surre capts arent supposed to leave SS unless theyre ordered to.

when did ichi follo orders? i only remember him ether ignoring orders or doing what he wants...which usually go together...

14M85H4NKZ
10-10-2008, 06:26 PM
Ichigo is going to take Yama's spot :D.

Firelink10
10-10-2008, 07:13 PM
Hmm either Ichigo would die at the end and become a full-fledge Shinigami thus being able to be a Captain at least or he will stay alive juggling stuff as a Soul Society Captain and as a normal human

xPyrox
10-11-2008, 05:04 AM
Ichigo is technically an obsenity, as I don't think he'll age either, since Shinigamis age much slower than humans, so really Ichigo'll have to make a choice imo. Maybe when he feels like being a captain he might.. but who knows.

TokyoRacer
10-11-2008, 11:29 AM
actually, i dont think capts realy alowed to leave SS, even in peace caus of all their paperwork, missions, and squad members who may or may not need attending to. plus, at any givin moment an att. could happen or a capt. meeting or something. im pretty surre capts arent supposed to leave SS unless theyre ordered to.

when did ichi follo orders? i only remember him ether ignoring orders or doing what he wants...which usually go together...




Hitsugaya was assigned to Karakuku town after the SS arc.

Songest
10-11-2008, 11:44 AM
Maybe in the long long long future as his dutie is to protect his friends and his town

Davo1515
10-11-2008, 12:52 PM
Hitsugaya was assigned to Karakuku town after the SS arc.

yea, but like i said, thats a mission. youd have to protect and destroy things all the time and i dont think ichi would want to b there on alert, but to b "normal" and go to school and stuff.

TheLegend/MVP
10-11-2008, 09:23 PM
if he become a captain it would destroy the thing of he being a substitute Shimigami
thats what i think

Ithkrul
10-11-2008, 11:35 PM
What makes Ichigo different from all the other characters in Bleach, is that he is an individual that represents all the worlds we have thus encountered. He is a Human, a Shinigami and a Hollow. He is like the pivot for the entire Bleach Universe. Tying him down to just Shinigami would really negate that aspect of his character. To be honest, as a being comprised of all of the aforementioned ones he kinda gets to live outside the rules for each. He is a Shinigami that doesn't listen to yama, a human that can transform into something otherworldy and he is a hollow that isn't really a hollow. Even the Vizard were Shinigami, powerful, yet missing the human aspect of the character. The story is setting him to be a big part of the Soul King story. Maybe he is like the prodigal son of the ruling force of all the different worlds.

Curien
10-11-2008, 11:48 PM
Ichigo is gonna become the King of S.S.

Ithkrul
10-11-2008, 11:56 PM
Im thinking more of a King of HM, SS and Earth.

Seshiro
10-12-2008, 01:12 AM
IMO Ichigo won't become a captain because he want to protect his friends.

Vizard Sparx
10-12-2008, 05:33 AM
Seshiro he could change his mind. or Bleach might do what Naruto has, and has another series set in the future. But I doubt that somewhat.

KING GRIMMJOW
10-21-2008, 03:19 PM
IMO Ichigo won't become a captain because he want to protect his friends.

If he became a captain, he'd be able to give/ or help them get seated positions,
keeping them close so he could protect them.

Nocturne' Ichigo
10-21-2008, 03:51 PM
In order for Ichigo to become Captain....yama-jii would have to change his views on Vizards...and if the vizards are allowed to become member again....it would seem like there would be need to be another division or something for the vizards....

Davo1515
10-21-2008, 04:01 PM
Interesting, but unlikely theyd get their own div, and it wasnt really yamas decition, it was C46 who banned them from SS. Yama had no say in it (at least not revealed).

Nocturne' Ichigo
10-21-2008, 04:10 PM
Interesting, but unlikely theyd get their own div, and it wasnt really yamas decition, it was C46 who banned them from SS. Yama had no say in it (at least not revealed).

true but i still don't think he'd allow such a thing....and if the Vizards were allowed to come back then would they assume captain ranks....cuz it would seem kinda odd that these powerhouses would be less then captain rank otherwise...for example Hits - captain, Matsumoto - VC and Love 3rd seat lol

Bluke
10-21-2008, 04:31 PM
Ichigo as a captain?, not in this version of Bleach.

Goroth
10-22-2008, 12:28 AM
No doubt he has the power and will to rank as Captain, but I agree to the previous posts by the members, if not all of them die and go to Soul Society, then there is no point in becoming a Captain. And lets not forget his two younger sisters.

marcman320
10-23-2008, 11:36 PM
yeah hes got the muscle the power, but ichigo is 15 years old. yamma has seen him in vizard form dint even do nething. hes technically still human, and we have no evidence that the vizards were kicked out by OLD Man only evidence that it was central 46 cuz they r gay with their laws. i think if ichigo becomes a captain, all of the vizards will become captains again. renji is strong enuf to be a captain too hes got bankai, but like ichigo he doesnt follow orders all of the time. that is what the problem is. i like the idea of the dbz theory that there will be like a db after going foward in time or back in time. bleach seems limitless, and seriously so do ichigos powers.

Nocturne' Ichigo
10-24-2008, 03:04 AM
yeah hes got the muscle the power, but ichigo is 15 years old. yamma has seen him in vizard form dint even do nething.


I hope ur not using the filler for this point



hes technically still human, and we have no evidence that the vizards were kicked out by OLD Man only evidence that it was central 46 cuz they r gay with their laws. i think if ichigo becomes a captain, all of the vizards will become captains again.


I don't know about that...i think there would be a new squad otherwise ur saying the vizards would replace current captains


renji is strong enuf to be a captain too hes got bankai, but like ichigo he doesnt follow orders all of the time. that is what the problem is. i like the idea of the dbz theory that there will be like a db after going foward in time or back in time. bleach seems limitless, and seriously so do ichigos powers.

Renji is not strong enuff to be a captain...having a bankai doesn't automatically put u at the level of bankai....look at Komamaru's bankai in comparison to Ikkaku.....HUGE difference..

Celiaties
10-24-2008, 06:08 AM
He could become a Captain. He will get stronger and would be of help for Soul Society. However, Ichigo has his life in the real world, so I see him as living there and being a powerful ally with Soul Society, helping when needed with his friends.

Stri
10-24-2008, 12:02 PM
I actually wouldn't be surprised in the least if Yama-ji let him be captain. Considering it was never his actual judgment to dispose of the vizards. Only C46's. By that time Ichigo should very well have it under control, and I doubt Yama-ji would actually pass up a talent like Ichigo's. That's if Yama-ji is still alive after this whole ordeal.

Davo1515
10-24-2008, 12:15 PM
true but i still don't think he'd allow such a thing....and if the Vizards were allowed to come back then would they assume captain ranks....cuz it would seem kinda odd that these powerhouses would be less then captain rank otherwise...for example Hits - captain, Matsumoto - VC and Love 3rd seat lol

if it was possibl for ichi to b a capt, he prob could now that the C46 are dead (not that hed want 2). the diff is the vaizards would never want to go back to how it was b4. they hate SS and Aizen so joinin 1, esp as a capt wont happen. Though i agree theyd b at least capt level. There hatred of SS and Aizen causes them to be their own group. they may/may not help in the WW but overall theyll never be capts again.

i still dont see ichi ever being a captin. it wouldnt fit him, even with yamas approval.

UlquiorraKuchiki
10-25-2008, 03:30 AM
The only way I could see Ichigo becomming a captain is after his time in the real world. I could see it as being like an ending chapter or scene for Bleach showing Ichigo being sworn in as a new captain.

Nocturne' Ichigo
10-25-2008, 03:48 AM
if it was possibl for ichi to b a capt, he prob could now that the C46 are dead (not that hed want 2). the diff is the vaizards would never want to go back to how it was b4. they hate SS and Aizen so joinin 1, esp as a capt wont happen. Though i agree theyd b at least capt level. There hatred of SS and Aizen causes them to be their own group. they may/may not help in the WW but overall theyll never be capts again.

i still dont see ichi ever being a captin. it wouldnt fit him, even with yamas approval.

I thought the vizards said SS hates them....not that they hated SS....big difference.....

I don't think the vizards hate SS cuz im sure they have no issues with the ppl who were there when they were there(Shunsui, Ukitake, Yourichi, etc) Hiyori thought of someone there as a mother figure soo i don't think its SS....more then likely C46

Davo1515
10-25-2008, 08:16 AM
im pretty sure im right. SS may hate them as well but im sure that Visoreds hate both Aizen (ditchin them) and SS (attempt to destroy them). i think at one point ichi asked them about it and they (Shinji) said they (all) hate both sides for these reasons.

Nocturne' Ichigo
10-25-2008, 08:57 AM
im pretty sure im right. SS may hate them as well but im sure that Visoreds hate both Aizen (ditchin them) and SS (attempt to destroy them). i think at one point ichi asked them about it and they (Shinji) said they (all) hate both sides for these reasons.

I'm pretty sure your wrong....They didn't hate Aizen for ditching them...they hate him for the hollowification and the whole kicked out of SS thing.....the C46 was the one that ordered the attempt not the Gotei...sooo the Gotei 13 may have no issue with them..


http://static.bleachexile.com/manga/bleach/190/%5BM7%5Dbleach190-05.jpg
^^doesn't say they hated SS...

onefallenwing
10-25-2008, 11:18 PM
IMO, Ichigo will become a captin, but it would be of the Vizored. That is one of my speculations though.

Goroth
10-26-2008, 12:14 AM
The only way I could see Ichigo becomming a captain is after his time in the real world. I could see it as being like an ending chapter or scene for Bleach showing Ichigo being sworn in as a new captain.

Yeah, that be a great way to end one season and start a hall new thing from there. Maybe something like Bleach Unlimited: Soul Society Chronicles

UlquiorraKuchiki
10-26-2008, 01:24 AM
No I just mean the ending of Bleach. I don't think I would really want to see a whole new arc of Bleach about Ichigo being a captain because there's really not a whole lot they can do with it in terms of a story.

Goroth
10-26-2008, 01:27 AM
Actually, it can get quite interesting from there IMO. We don't know how much talent there are in the story writers, who knows...

UlquiorraKuchiki
10-26-2008, 01:39 AM
If it continued after Ichigo became a captain, all I can see is something along the lines of like when Amagai was trying to be accepted by the squad and he was training with the squad. Let's face it, once Aizen has been defeated there won't be any real threats anymore.

Seven Deadly Sins
10-26-2008, 08:53 AM
If it continued after Ichigo became a captain, all I can see is something along the lines of like when Amagai was trying to be accepted by the squad and he was training with the squad. Let's face it, once Aizen has been defeated there won't be any real threats anymore.

I don't know if you can really say there won't be any real threats, I mean they pretty much pulled the Bountou out of their asses, I didn't see a single hint in Sereitei about it until Yoruichi and Soi Fon saw a Bountou sucking a human soul. You could see the Vaizard's and Aizen coming just because Aizen left with Hogyoku (sp?) and Ichigo's control was slipping more and more with HIchigo. If there aren't hints to it coming up with-in the next few Episodes then they will probably just do something random again.

Glamdring
10-26-2008, 11:49 AM
Well ichigo has the power of a captain,but am not sure old man will allow a vaizard to become captain.You know,in the empty can -which yama calls it "his head"- there is always a brilliant idea about what to do.İchigo saved SS's ass for many times but yamaji may think Vaizard=Half hollow=Not a captain candidate

Rukiahime
10-26-2008, 01:26 PM
i don't think that Ichigo wants to be a captain cause he likes to do things by his own rules and would not want to be tied down by the law of SS. also his main focus is to protect those he loves and as a captain he would not be able to focus on them which would not sit well with Ichigo. not too mention the fact that he is a vaizard...

Wras
10-26-2008, 01:44 PM
Become an actual captain? Sure, why not, maybe even a new division. Maybe he'll stay in Karakura, since it's such a crucial area (re: the amount of spiritually aware people) but will also be able to contact SS, like with the TV that is still in Orihime's house, and he'll generally get his orders from there (and not obey them).

Assuming he DOES, that is. Intriguing to think about I suppose but my honest opinion? Prob not.

Goroth
10-26-2008, 08:22 PM
Yeah, Orihime has that HUGE LCD TV right? lol. But I don't think when becoming a Capt, you are not allowed patrol the real world, it's for VC or cadets.

Angels Punishment
10-26-2008, 08:39 PM
I hope he does. I'm sure his family will be in the Soul Society too somehow. I look forward to seeing him a captain.

Goroth
10-26-2008, 08:45 PM
You mean the family should cease to exist or die in the real world?! Only then they can be in SS.

niyaz_7
10-31-2008, 04:17 AM
i doubt that yama-ji woud ever do that, he'd probably say "to reach full potential you need to practice youself to find your own strength"

TheLegend/MVP
10-31-2008, 04:45 AM
Yeah Ichigo might be a Captain but when he archived his full potential and further more Ichigo dont like to take orders and can disagree with Yama-ji at many times he only do what he think is logically right

niyaz_7
10-31-2008, 05:45 AM
I dont think ichigo will become a captain but he certainly is a captain level shinigami.

Shinigami383
11-01-2008, 10:07 PM
Its possible after his mortal life on earth is over he could become a captain but i say he uses a Urahara gigai and chills on earth killing hollows and cleaning up soul society's messes after he dies. Lets not forget he officially hasn't died and therefore by normal standards hasn't become a shinigami. When he dies a soul burial won't be needed because he unlocked his shinigami/hollow abilities with Urahara when that normally happens after death.

DonMegaPLP
11-05-2008, 11:31 AM
Hmm... Well it'd be a great story, assuming Tite has the gut to do it. I would definately love to see a time-skip though, like a few years. Then have Ichigo come up against some uber-powerful force whether Hollow or Shinigami and get suddenly killed in his human form which should force him into his Shinigami form. He'd then be technically dead... Even though Urahara cut his soul chain, his body was never dead, his heart has never stopped or has he gone brain dead. I believe he's still "living" until he has no body to return to.

Once that happens he'd be completely under the jurisdiction of SS and Yamamoto with no argument available, but knowing Ichigo he'd probably be in denial and rebel against having to be a full time Shinigami. I'd predict a lot of resistence on his part... If Ichigo dies in Shinigami form, I think he's going to be reincarnated and inserted back into the cycle to reborn on Earth again.

It'd be pretty interesting to see him forced to go through the academy at the level he's at. Once graduating he'd probably be put into a seated spot in a squad. I doubt they'd just throw him a captain-spot off rip... Though seeing get to that point would be worth waiting for, though sadly I dont believe Tite has the writing in him or the series have enough time to illustrate a decent story... Bleach may at best have 2 more arcs left in it's lifeline. With that, I'd hope he'd do a time skip at the end and show us a glimpse of how everything works out, like a waking-dream... Like the end of DBGT, just a peak. ::cringes:: DBGT...:sick:

Shinigami383
11-05-2008, 03:28 PM
Hmm... Well it'd be a great story, assuming Tite has the gut to do it. I would definately love to see a time-skip though, like a few years. Then have Ichigo come up against some uber-powerful force whether Hollow or Shinigami and get suddenly killed in his human form which should force him into his Shinigami form. He'd then be technically dead... Even though Urahara cut his soul chain, his body was never dead, his heart has never stopped or has he gone brain dead. I believe he's still "living" until he has no body to return to.

Once that happens he'd be completely under the jurisdiction of SS and Yamamoto with no argument available, but knowing Ichigo he'd probably be in denial and rebel against having to be a full time Shinigami. I'd predict a lot of resistence on his part... If Ichigo dies in Shinigami form, I think he's going to be reincarnated and inserted back into the cycle to reborn on Earth again.

It'd be pretty interesting to see him forced to go through the academy at the level he's at. Once graduating he'd probably be put into a seated spot in a squad. I doubt they'd just throw him a captain-spot off rip... Though seeing get to that point would be worth waiting for, though sadly I dont believe Tite has the writing in him or the series have enough time to illustrate a decent story... Bleach may at best have 2 more arcs left in it's lifeline. With that, I'd hope he'd do a time skip at the end and show us a glimpse of how everything works out, like a waking-dream... Like the end of DBGT, just a peak. ::cringes:: DBGT...:sick:
I totally agree with you on all accounts and ichigo would not have to go through the academy becasue of all the experience he's obtained thus far. I don't think he would mind doing the job full-time for the simple fact that he has no mortal life to return to and i'm sure he'll move on. Perhaps he and his father will captain-vice captain some squad in the future.

Hiwapi
11-05-2008, 03:34 PM
Its possible after his mortal life on earth is over he could become a captain but i say he uses a Urahara gigai and chills on earth killing hollows and cleaning up soul society's messes after he dies. Lets not forget he officially hasn't died and therefore by normal standards hasn't become a shinigami. When he dies a soul burial won't be needed because he unlocked his shinigami/hollow abilities with Urahara when that normally happens after death.

officially? :huh:
is there an officially death and an unofficially death??
i thought that Inoue's bro said to Ichigo at the early episodes that when your soul chain has been cut that u are dead...
Urahara clearly cut Ichigo's soul chain,that means he is dead

Guts
11-05-2008, 03:41 PM
Power and skill alone does not guarantee one a spot as a captain in soul society. An equally necessary trait is experience in leadership and wisdom that comes with age. Furthermore, Ichigo is still a human. It also goes against his rebellious, independent nature. Therefore, I highly doubt Ichigo will become a captain in soul society, despite his skill.

TW501
11-05-2008, 03:51 PM
He's not technically dead yet, nor is he a full-Shinigami, so I doubt that he'd become a Captain. If he were offered the position, I think he'd turn it down as he still has friends, family, and other connections to the human world.

DizzleX
11-05-2008, 03:52 PM
yes he could but will not because he is lead by his heart not by some stupid rules set upon his by other people

Hiwapi
11-05-2008, 03:54 PM
i think that if u are dead theres no technically and not technically...i get what u mean though but again,his soul chain has been cut,thats it

as if he could be a captain...as we can all see,his progression is tremendous,i wouldnt doubt it that someday he might become a captain...one of his reasons why he is a shinigami is to protect his friends and whats a better way to do that....anyway,for now,he cant be a captain,in the future though,who knows :amused:

Baishin
11-05-2008, 04:25 PM
Ichigo, doesn't have the mindset to command others yet. He still has a bit of Maturity to go threw.

DonMegaPLP
11-05-2008, 07:46 PM
No, not right now, he difinately doesnt have the mindset to be captain. In three or four years who knows? But as for him being captain-quality, well he has some battle experience and raw power but has ZERO kido skills and his shunpo hasnt been tested at all... Neither has Kenpachi, but he's a beast.

He isnt mentally ready for the job, no where near.

undeadforce
11-08-2008, 09:34 AM
Thats impossible properly. Central 46 does not accept Vaizard formally. They even attempt to murder off Toushiro friend just because Toushiro had a same Shikai with his friend in the movie. Though its kind of funny and is a mere movie, thats how Kubo put central 46 as.

Dark Lord
11-10-2008, 04:20 PM
Ichigo has stong reiatsu and the ability to use bankai,Old man Yama has recognised that Ichigo is powerful,and would be able to guide him to reach his full potential.:amused:

A lot of good arguments have already been mentioned in this thread to explain why Ichigo wouldn't fit as a captain. I haven't read all 14 pages in this thread (so this may have already been mentioned), but Ichigo doesn't care about the rules and regulations of soul society, and his main motivation is to protect his friends, family, and the innocent. Yamamoto wants his captains to follow his orders regardless of their feelings and opinions, and Ichigo would never go along with Yamamoto's orders if he feels they aren't sound or just.

From a power standpoint Ichigo could be a captain, but from a mentality standpoint he wouldn't fit (at least not in the 13 court guard squads).

manicsfan01
11-13-2008, 02:59 AM
i think he could be. maby when he reaches 2nd bankai

see the video

i hope it happens

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=8BlkHmmy-rE

TokyoRacer
11-13-2008, 10:59 AM
Thats impossible properly. Central 46 does not accept Vaizard formally. They even attempt to murder off Toushiro friend just because Toushiro had a same Shikai with his friend in the movie. Though its kind of funny and is a mere movie, thats how Kubo put central 46 as.



You do remember that the entire office of the central 46 was killed right...? And they basically don't exist right now...right?

manicsfan01
11-13-2008, 12:57 PM
You do remember that the entire office of the central 46 was killed right...? And they basically don't exist right now...right?

ahh yes but how did they make amagai captain??

shinji
11-13-2008, 01:03 PM
A lot of good arguments have already been mentioned in this thread to explain why Ichigo wouldn't fit as a captain. I haven't read all 14 pages in this thread (so this may have already been mentioned), but Ichigo doesn't care about the rules and regulations of soul society, and his main motivation is to protect his friends, family, and the innocent. Yamamoto wants his captains to follow his orders regardless of their feelings and opinions, and Ichigo would never go along with Yamamoto's orders if he feels they aren't sound or just.

From a power standpoint Ichigo could be a captain, but from a mentality standpoint he wouldn't fit (at least not in the 13 court guard squads).Kenpachi does what he want's most of the time and is reckless and endanger's his fellow squad members so i doubt yama would care if ichigo was a little out of control he'd properly listen to him if yama was serious.

Manicsfan@ And they appoint a captain by having three recommend someone and then he has to show his powers to the head captain and two other captains nothing to do with the central 46.

kenpachi93
11-16-2008, 10:58 AM
i beleive that ichigo has the full potential of becoming a captain he would probably take place of tousen,aizen,or gin

juss as king grimmjow said old man genryuusai yamamato even realized it about ichigo toshiro is also a yung captain

Espada #3
11-16-2008, 10:00 PM
Ichigo won't become a captain he's not attached enough to Soul society. His family and friends would keep him in the real world anyway.

Afrojack
11-16-2008, 10:05 PM
He won't age anymore. At least not at anywhere near the rate of his friends or family, since he's technically dead. His dad probably won't be getting older either, and there'll be some explaining to do to the sisters, but ultimately being dead means his place is in SS, probably as a Captain, seeing how strong he will be at the end. He could always visit.

Kyouraku Shunsui2424
11-21-2008, 07:34 AM
Ichigo is a vizored, an since all the vizored used to be in the gotei as captains, vice captains and kidou crops, after they became vizoreds the central 46 said they would be delt with like regualr hallows, so since ichigo is a vizored and considered a hallow by central 46, he will never be a captian. unless maybe if Urahara Kisuke can cure him and the other vizoreds, but i dont think thats going to happen:amused:

LoN_Lina
11-21-2008, 09:34 AM
cetral 46 is a little dead atm so thats not really an issue if yami-chan wants to change that. but no i have a feeling an order will be handed down and ichigo would go straight to royal guard

nicoruth
11-22-2008, 12:52 AM
I like ichigo the way he is it would be better if he stays like that:smile:

Seven Deadly Sins
11-22-2008, 05:43 PM
No way in Hell is Ichigo close to Royal Guard material. He can barely beat Byakuya, and can't really do anything but sit there and scream "Getsuga Tenshou" hiding behind a mask in Bankai. Other captains have full techniques, and can actually fight without a Vaizard mask.

tRickster
11-22-2008, 06:39 PM
LOL Ichigo will never be a captain, hes so weak and he cant do any kido spells.

lonelyfighterx
11-22-2008, 06:51 PM
Ichigo is kinda hot-headed... He need to control his temper before he can be a leader.

LoN_Lina
11-23-2008, 02:43 AM
Ichigo is kinda hot-headed... He need to control his temper before he can be a leader.

um..... kenpachi much

Seven Deadly Sins
11-23-2008, 06:41 AM
Kenpachi isnt hot headed he is calm and doesn't run around like an idiot screaming

Mysticaaal~
11-23-2008, 11:51 AM
He could become a captain since he's really strong. But I don't think Ichi wants to be one...he'd be busy with the Soul Society instead of resting in his room.XD

KurotsuchiAl
11-24-2008, 01:59 AM
Actually Ichigo is captain level already but I doubt he's going to accept it to be part of Gotei 13.

Jakka
11-27-2008, 11:01 AM
Nothing says "Plot Killer" like Ichigo becoming a Captain. I don't see any basis as

1) He's not a pure-shinigami,but a human who stole Shinigami powers.
2) He's a Vaizard.
3) Despite what Tito makes you think, he's inherently weak as he can't even use his BanKai the way it should be used - considering how fast he can be, creating clones like Zommari and fighitng the way Yoruichi fights her enemies would be a good start. In fact I don't see him deafeating any of the current Captains, using his Vaizard Powers or not. Both Kenpachi and Byakuya took a dive in their respective fights.
4.Did I mention he's a FUCKING VAIZARD?

PlotKai
11-27-2008, 01:25 PM
Nothing says "Plot Killer" like Ichigo becoming a Captain. I don't see any basis as

1) He's not a pure-shinigami,but a human who stole Shinigami powers.
2) He's a Vaizard.
3) Despite what Tito makes you think, he's inherently weak as he can't even use his BanKai the way it should be used - considering how fast he can be, creating clones like Zommari and fighitng the way Yoruichi fights her enemies would be a good start. In fact I don't see him deafeating any of the current Captains, using his Vaizard Powers or not. Both Kenpachi and Byakuya took a dive in their respective fights.
4.Did I mention he's a FUCKING VAIZARD?

I agree... he's a "bastard shinigami", a guy who is still a human living in the real world, he's got ZERO kidou skills so(don't bring up the Kenpaci ace, Ichigo would never fight a captain just to try to become one himself) and, to top it off, he's attained hollow powers... the hollow powers alone are enough to destroy the slightest chance of him ever becoming a captain.

Despite of that, I guess he wouldn't want it anyway, he's got his life and his friends in the real world. He wouldn't give it up to join the G13.

Hachuyani
01-12-2009, 05:43 PM
Naw, I don't think so. He's the Main Character anyways, and there's plenty of other reasons why he won't be a Captain.

Guts
01-12-2009, 05:47 PM
In order to be a captain, you need overall wisdom in addition to battle ability. Ichigo lacks wisdom, being an arrogant teenager. Besides, he is a human, as well as a vizard, which is probably frowned upon in soul society.

Hachuyani
01-12-2009, 05:52 PM
That is true, he also lacks Kidou, which is an important aspect of a Captain, but not always requires. Ichigo also lacks observance and patience. If he had those three things and practiced a bit more, then maybe he would be worthy of Full Captain.

Guts
01-12-2009, 05:55 PM
That is true, he also lacks Kidou, which is an important aspect of a Captain, but not always requires. Ichigo also lacks observance and patience. If he had those three things and practiced a bit more, then maybe he would be worthy of Full Captain.

It wouldn't matter because he is still a human

Hachuyani
01-12-2009, 08:46 PM
I was thinking he was an exception, after all he knows Bankai, but I suppose if those are the Shinigami rules then he couldn't be, but I don't ever remember seeing them.

LoN_Lina
01-13-2009, 01:54 AM
Nothing says "Plot Killer" like Ichigo becoming a Captain. I don't see any basis as

1) He's not a pure-shinigami,but a human who stole Shinigami powers.
2) He's a Vaizard.
3) Despite what Tito makes you think, he's inherently weak as he can't even use his BanKai the way it should be used - considering how fast he can be, creating clones like Zommari and fighitng the way Yoruichi fights her enemies would be a good start. In fact I don't see him deafeating any of the current Captains, using his Vaizard Powers or not. Both Kenpachi and Byakuya took a dive in their respective fights.
4.Did I mention he's a FUCKING VAIZARD?
lets address these in sequence.
1. he was given, not stole, powers by rukia which awakened his already existing shinigami powers(per his own damned soul)
2. yes he's a vizard. thusly not allowed to enter the soul sociaty. which doesn't stop him anyways.
3. yes he's not able to use his bankai's max potential as stated many times his current physical body prevents him as it would destroy it. although byakuya might have given in and lost on purpose kenpachi never would. if you think he did you're more of a crack head then seven deadly sins.
4 we know you're retarded thanks.

In order to be a captain, you need overall wisdom in addition to battle ability. Ichigo lacks wisdom, being an arrogant teenager. Besides, he is a human, as well as a vizard, which is probably frowned upon in soul society.
unless you count kenpachi or hitsyuga. they have talents not wisdom. kenpachi is raw fighting instinct and hitsyuga is a genius

arctic_zakura077
01-13-2009, 03:01 AM
i doubt he can become a captain. he might be offered to be one but i doubt he will accept it

knocky
01-13-2009, 03:39 AM
i kinda feel that zangetsu won that fight with kenpachi i know that sounds silly but ich still cant control all that raw power he has got and if he was to fight kenpachi now i think it would be kenpachi thaty kicks his ass. ichigo will niva be a cap how will the sort countune if he has to follow orders lol ich.

fakeobsession
01-13-2009, 05:09 AM
I don't think he'll ever become a captain...
I guess he'll choose to be with Vaizards or just helping Soul Society sometimes...
he'll definitely rather to be with his family than to abandon them and become a true Shinigami in SS...

(SIC)NESS
01-13-2009, 08:24 AM
ichigo has got the skills and powers to become a captain but maybe they won't allow him due to his hollow side they may not trust that he can control him
if i remember correctly Hichigo said to ichigo that he will be KING again one day so maybe he loses control

MMZ
01-13-2009, 12:48 PM
The way I see it (most of which was mentioned before), if Ichigo is to ever be a captain, it'll be in a new series or just a final episode that's years (hundreds of years) after the rest of the series' events have ended. I can't see Ichigo ever being a captain while Yama is around...

Ichigo has shinigami powers but isn't considered part of SS. Most still refer to him as a "substitute shinigami." Ichigo is also closely associated with Urahara (an exiled captain), the Vizard (exiled captains and vice-captains), Ishida is a Quincy and they were supposed to be wiped out by SS, Orihime is considered (for now) a defector, Chad basically is a "living hollow," and of course Ichigo tends to always go against anything Yama says. By Yama's justice standards, Ichigo would associate with to many 'criminals' and of course won't follow orders.

Hundreds of years after the rest of the Bleach story I could imagine a "WTF!?" setup though...

Yama would be dead/gone

Ukitake, Shunsui, or Byakuya would have taken over for Yama

Ichigo, Rukia and Renji would be captains

Kenpachi and Mayuri would be dead/gone

Orihime would be around SS with Ichigo, but not not involved with any squad stuff.

Chad would either be part of the 2nd division (though only VC at best) or just living peacefully in the real world still.

Isshin would be a captain-class shinigami, but not involved with anything in SS.

Urahara would lead the Technological Development Bureau again, but NOT be a division captain again.

The Quincy (aka Uryuu & Ryuuken) and the Vizard would be accepted in the SS again but not involved with it any.

Ryuuken may finally respect/accept Uryuu, but still hate the shinigami.

That covers enough right? lol

krnxracer90
03-03-2009, 04:42 PM
To me, I really don't want him to be captain because:

1. To be a captain....aren't you supposed to be dead??
2. He can't use kido...but then again I don't know if Zaraki can either
3. He's not that type of person the turn into a captain, a vizard is fine....but Captain belongs to someone else

redfable
03-03-2009, 05:45 PM
No because he does not care about the rules or anything like that at all he would get booted after a week

Joji
03-03-2009, 10:11 PM
he wouldn't care for being a captain and wouldn't want it, he cares about the people in the real world and wants to be around them, being in soul society would affect that.

little91
03-08-2009, 10:56 PM
well, even if he is strong and at least as strong as a captain,
he isn't really dead (shinigami substitute),
he still has a life in karakura town and a family to take care of.
he can't just ignore that and live in soul society.

maybe when he dies... but then again,
don't souls loose their memories of their lives while they were living?

Stinky Puss
03-09-2009, 03:33 AM
He's not really a suitable candidate considering it'd be in his nature to disregard rules in favour of personal emotions and friendships etc.

jinkkoma
03-09-2009, 11:14 AM
My Opinion...
I guess He will never become a captain...
I think It's impossible for a guy like Ichigo to be under those complicated Seireitei's Rules..

Raitei_Ryuu
03-09-2009, 11:52 AM
Don´t think so. To become a captain he has to abandon his old life and go over to SS fulltime. He is to much a family guy to leave his father and his sisters behind.

Also as many others here said, Yama would never let that happen (despite that Byakuya would kick Ichigo´s ass if he would try to become captain). He is a substitute Shinigami who (when you remember) commited several crimes in SS, like interfering a official execution, attacking and seriously injuring a Captain class shinigami and so on.

Emmarie7
03-09-2009, 11:59 AM
I like the idea, but something drastic would have to happen to put it into play. Also, if he was accepted into the gotei 13 as a captain, I would think the original vizard would have to at least be invited back too, as well as Urahara. I suppose we'll see where their ture allegiances are in the coming manga chapters.
As for being the leader of some "vizard devision," I think that's just silly. The vizard already have a pseudo-leader, and that's Shinji.

Souliv
03-09-2009, 12:07 PM
no

IchiGin
03-10-2009, 06:18 AM
Nope :suspicious:! ... I would not like an extremely emotional dude to be my captain... not in a 1000 years!!!

Rosh
04-02-2009, 09:45 PM
I dont think he will first of all he is human secondly he has hollow powers and it is against the law to use such powers.

ginchan
04-03-2009, 09:27 AM
Also as many others here said, Yama would never let that happen (despite that Byakuya would kick Ichigo´s ass if he would try to become captain). He is a substitute Shinigami who (when you remember) commited several crimes in SS, like interfering a official execution, attacking and seriously injuring a Captain class shinigami and so on.

i don' think he'd become a captain either, but for breaking some rules, i doubt that'd be reason.
simply ---> during rukia's high-class execution, both Ukitake and Shunsui were responsible for shattering Soukyouku (do i have that right, or was that the name of the hill itself??). yet those two were never actually punished. yeah, yama-jii went after them and they all fought, but punishment was never really exacted.

Yadomaru
04-03-2009, 09:58 AM
My opinion? HELL NO.
Central 46 was gonna exterminate Shinji and the gang like Hollows. Ichigo is even closer to a Hollow than they are from what's been shown, and I don't see that mean-tempered, by-the-book old fart Yamamoto deviating any from that point of view.
IMO, he'd issue an order to have Ichigo exterminated before he'd consider allowing a half-Hollow into the Gotei Thirteen.

Hitsugaya_Hinamori
04-03-2009, 10:01 AM
No,maybe because he has hollow powers and that is illegal.A subtittute shinigami

cannot maybe become a captain

maybe is yes if he did not have hollow powers or he died and he was born in

in soul society and he became a real shinigami.

Vermillian_Grimmjow
04-03-2009, 10:05 AM
To me, I really don't want him to be captain because:

1. To be a captain....aren't you supposed to be dead??
2. He can't use kido...but then again I don't know if Zaraki can either
3. He's not that type of person the turn into a captain, a vizard is fine....but Captain belongs to someone else


He is already dead as of when Urahara cut his soul chain to make him a soul reaper. That is why he is able to leave his body for excessive amounts of time while all the others are forced to drag there bodies through to ss and hm.

xTHHxAimiForevr
04-03-2009, 02:45 PM
No. He stopped Rukia's execution.

He is already dead as of when Urahara cut his soul chain to make him a soul reaper. That is why he is able to leave his body for excessive amounts of time while all the others are forced to drag there bodies through to ss and hm.

He was dead before that wasn't he? When Rukia stabbed him so he could save his family in the first few chapters... Right?

Yadomaru
04-03-2009, 05:28 PM
Apparently not, since despite having Rukia's Soul Reaper powers, once you stripped those away he still had a Chain of Fate that connected his soul to his body..

Dee1nOnly
04-03-2009, 11:25 PM
The funny thing is, i dont he would make a very good captain anyway. Sure he's strong, but other than that he's not very captain-like. He cant see the big picture, unable to trust friends/subordinates to get the job done, second guessing ppl on his side, willingness to risk just about anything to get what he wants, inability to stay away from a fight etc. It's a great quality to have as a friend but as a captain? I for one wouldnt want to serve under him, i can imagine him wanting to fight every single hollow out there just because he doesnt want anyone to get hurt.

Rosh
04-04-2009, 05:30 AM
The funny thing is, i dont he would make a very good captain anyway. Sure he's strong, but other than that he's not very captain-like. He cant see the big picture, unable to trust friends/subordinates to get the job done, second guessing ppl on his side, willingness to risk just about anything to get what he wants, inability to stay away from a fight etc. It's a great quality to have as a friend but as a captain? I for one wouldnt want to serve under him, i can imagine him wanting to fight every single hollow out there just because he doesnt want anyone to get hurt.

I agree with Dee1nOnly Ichigo woudnt make a good captain dont get me wrong I am not bashing Ichigo he is awesome but he is not captain material right now anyway, I think he will be in the near future.

logainofhades
04-04-2009, 06:35 AM
The funny thing is, i dont he would make a very good captain anyway. Sure he's strong, but other than that he's not very captain-like. He cant see the big picture, unable to trust friends/subordinates to get the job done, second guessing ppl on his side, willingness to risk just about anything to get what he wants, inability to stay away from a fight etc. It's a great quality to have as a friend but as a captain? I for one wouldnt want to serve under him, i can imagine him wanting to fight every single hollow out there just because he doesnt want anyone to get hurt.

How is that any worse really than Kenpachi?

Yadomaru
04-04-2009, 10:28 AM
Kenpachi doesn't fight to protect, he fights for kicks...so he's less reliable because he'll only fight if he thinks there's a strong opponent he can play with.
Worst Captain of the G13 IMO.

logainofhades
04-04-2009, 01:36 PM
Yea if Kenpachi can qualify to be a captain I think Ichigo is much more qualified. At least he gives a damn about others than himself.

Rosh
04-04-2009, 02:28 PM
I have to agree on that if Kenpachi qualifys Ichigo should to but in all honesty I am a big fan of Kenpachi but I dont think he is a good captain I mean yeah he inspires his subbordinates but he dont give a shit about them which kind of bugs me.

Thanatyr
04-04-2009, 04:39 PM
It's his ideal that strives in the 11th, being able to self-sustain and enjoy a good fight. Really Ikkaku, Yachiru and Yumichika seem to be able to help reign in the squad when needed.
Hell, Yachiru herself must be able to command the masses of the 11th. No one wants to get on her bad side, it's scary there.

Dee1nOnly
04-04-2009, 07:17 PM
I have to agree on that if Kenpachi qualifys Ichigo should to but in all honesty I am a big fan of Kenpachi but I dont think he is a good captain I mean yeah he inspires his subbordinates but he dont give a shit about them which kind of bugs me.

He wont pass the captain's exam, and he's sure as hell will not get recommendation from the majority of the captain. So the only way he could be a captain is to beat kenpachi on 1 on 1 fight. One bad captain replace by another bad one.

Korbenik
04-04-2009, 09:42 PM
IMO atleast Kenpachi trusts his subordinates unlike Ichigo who wouldnt, imo thats a captain flaw and may end up havin ur ass sent infront of commander Yam XD wouldnt want that now would u?

DarkBunny
04-04-2009, 11:56 PM
yeah i agree Ichigo would be a terrible captain,i sure wouldn't serve under him

Jagy
04-07-2009, 10:22 PM
(Being a first tiem poster to this thread and since I didn't feel like reading it all, thsi may have been talked about before)


I don't think Ichigo will ever become a captain. For two reasons.

1. He's already at captain level and seeing how they have three different captain spots empty, they could have made him one already.

2. Wouldn't he have to die first? I mean, everyone in Soul Society, got there because they died. Although technically Ichigo did die when Urahara cut his chain.

Also, Ichigo would never agree to become a captain. He'd rather protect his friends then enter soul society and follow the rules they enforce

dynamo
04-08-2009, 04:26 AM
No. Why? Because he is Vaizard AND a human, Ichigo and SS are only temporary allies, in a "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" sort of way.

Romaji
04-08-2009, 07:03 AM
No. Why? Because he is Vaizard AND a human, Ichigo and SS are only temporary allies, in a "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" sort of way.

Exactly, This will never happen although it would be cool.

afrotaito
04-08-2009, 07:16 AM
Kenpachi isnt hot headed he is calm and doesn't run around like an idiot screaming

did you miss the soul society /ryko saga when kenpachi is running round liker a headless chicken looking for ichigo. and he really doesnt interact with his team much. the only leadership qualities ichigo has is his will. he operates through emotions too much.

kochito22
04-08-2009, 07:20 AM
Kenpachi isnt hot headed he is calm and doesn't run around like an idiot screaming

Joke, right?

logainofhades
04-08-2009, 07:53 AM
(Being a first tiem poster to this thread and since I didn't feel like reading it all, thsi may have been talked about before)


I don't think Ichigo will ever become a captain. For two reasons.

1. He's already at captain level and seeing how they have three different captain spots empty, they could have made him one already.

2. Wouldn't he have to die first? I mean, everyone in Soul Society, got there because they died. Although technically Ichigo did die when Urahara cut his chain.

Also, Ichigo would never agree to become a captain. He'd rather protect his friends then enter soul society and follow the rules they enforce

I know this has been said somewhere before, but did he not already technically die when he regained his Shinigami powers since his soul chain was shattered?

ш『††Shinigami††』ш
04-09-2009, 06:37 PM
Since the vizards have been sentenced to exile, and Ichigo is a vizard, if they find out that Ichigo is a vizard, then I guess there will be no chance of Ichigo becoming a captain. Unless, they change the verdict of the vizards,Urahara and Tessai, then maybe there's a slight chance in the near future.

eoddc5
04-09-2009, 07:11 PM
Since the vizards have been sentenced to exile, and Ichigo is a vizard, if they find out that Ichigo is a vizard, then I guess there will be no chance of Ichigo becoming a captain. Unless, they change the verdict of the vizards,Urahara and Tessai, then maybe there's a slight chance in the near future.

im not sure they were actually "exiled", i know thats what they said when we first learned of them....but after the pendulum we learn that they were supposed to be executed, and urahara and tessai were to be stripped of power and moved to human world

however, instead, urahara, tessai, and yoruichi escaped - and transported the vaizards with them to protect them from being killed

also i am pretty sure they know about ichigo's vaizard ability...i might just be thinking of the movie and the filler....so its not canon...but i think - at least some besides ryukia and renji - know about his mask

that said --- ichigo wont be captain, not because of vaizard status alone, but because like everyone else said - he is not qualified

though if he WAS qualified and properly dead as a spirit living in SS, i dont think SS hierarchy and structure would allow a vaizard or whatever he is now as a captain, let alone even into the squads at all..

this opens a whole other question...if he really died - ie soul burial....think he would go to SS..or hueco mundo? i mean hes half and half....

Rosh
04-09-2009, 07:31 PM
One major thing you guys are forgetting is that to be eligible to even consider being a full time soul reaper is you have to be dead and Ichigo is ALIVE and he is HUMAN.

Yadomaru
04-10-2009, 06:29 AM
No, he's not. He's been officially DEAD since before SS Arc.
Waaaqy back when he went to Urahara to get his powers back, first thing the crtazy fucker did was cut his Chain of Fate - permanently separating his soul from his body.
In other words, killing his ass.

Ichigo is a true Soul Reaper, dead and all, and he simply happens to be using his own corpse as a gigai.

Falariel
04-10-2009, 08:19 AM
no, ichigo will not be a captain.

because he will refuse to be one.

and he's just a substitute sinigami.

Basior
04-10-2009, 08:34 AM
And don't forget he's a Vizard and we all know SS are not very alike to Shinigami with Hollow Powers, unless after the WW their look at this topic changes.

TOKYO JOE
04-10-2009, 01:25 PM
never, he will never become a captain. why, because he is a vizard now. the only two people in SS who have any idea about his powers are Rukia and her brother. And her brother never saw him in control of his hollow powers. What happens when there's a huge battle and the other captains, especially Yama, see Ichigo bring out his mask? The other vizards have already been exiled, so as things stand he would not be welcomed back.

Old man Yama was following orders (atleast he thought he was)when Rukia was to be executed,orders from the high court .

maybe someday we will see ichigo as a captain, my guess is it probably wont be until another bleach series comes out. like how theres dragon ball and dragon ball z there might be like a bleach X or something were ichigo is older and maybe a captain. As for the vizard thing, i think as long as Yama is around ichigo wont become a captain because Yama seems to stick by tradition more and i doubt he wouldn't stand for a vizard coming into the shinigami ranks, especially not as a captain.

Quite frankly. I doubt they would still look down upon the Vizards after all this time. Especially when these Vizards will potentially aid them in battle.

That is true, he also lacks Kidou, which is an important aspect of a Captain, but not always requires. Ichigo also lacks observance and patience. If he had those three things and practiced a bit more, then maybe he would be worthy of Full Captain.

Not in the present or near-future will Ichigo become a Captain. Maybe much later.

Okay, First of all, he's still a young man. (Hitsugaya's a kid also, but he is much more mature for his age than Ichigo is.)

Second of all, he is the "bull in a china shop". He is very disruptive, but for the right reasons, so there's hope for him.

Give him a couple of decades, and he'll be a shoo-in if he wanted the position. All the other captains have some measure of respect for his abilities, his potential, and especially for Ichigo the man himself.

As for the issue of him being a Vaizard, I really don't think it will be a real issue.
The Vaizard would probably get their old Captain's seats back - they will likely be redeemed in the eyes of Soul Society.

As for Old Man Yama, he is bull-headed when it comes to tradition, but he is not inflexible. He has the ability to listen to reason and act on it quickly when the situation demands. I don't see a real problem there. He is now working with Urahara, and likely knows all about hollowification from him.

Basior
04-10-2009, 02:03 PM
It's no sence for me if the Vizard Captains receive back their seast.First of all,possitions after Aizen,Gin and Tousen are free but what to do with Komma? and if they will receive them the way of developement for Momo,Kira and Hisagi would be closed.Also are there Shinigami in their old divisions who remember them?Come to logic, I doubt that if a shinigami would have to choose between a lieutenant he knows well and trusts him (e.g. Hisagi) and a Captain who he doesn't trust (Kensei) he would choose the further one.The only place I see the Vizard (without Ichigo) is in the 0 Division.Sorry for the off topic

JadanX
04-10-2009, 02:06 PM
um... maybe i do't really know

mokonafan
04-11-2009, 02:38 PM
There are a few reasons Ichigo can't be a captain:
1)He may be dead, but he still isn't an actual soul reaper, he's a substitute.
2)He's a vizard. Vizard's aren't considered to be allies of the SS, they do not affiliate themselves or align themselves with the SS, despite being former SS citizens, and the SS doesn't allow vizards to ally themselves with the SS. They reject them.
3)He's not an ally of the soul society, but he's not against it either. He's fighting on the side of the SS because Karakura Town and everyone he knows and loves will be annihilated if he doesn't do something about it.

Rosh
04-11-2009, 05:49 PM
Ok even though he is dead like Yadomaru said, I dont think it changes things he is a vaizard aswell so the SS just wont accept him.

hazeray360
04-12-2009, 12:31 AM
i personally think that ichigo wont be a captain cause like the 1st season he said that he will only protect the people he loved and wont trouble himself looking for people to help(less he knows about it)

ш『††Shinigami††』ш
04-12-2009, 01:19 AM
Well, in the last chapter he came back alive. So, he isn't dead.

Shinigami♥
04-13-2009, 12:16 PM
Perhaps, in the future, if he wants to.

Yadomaru
04-13-2009, 01:24 PM
Well, in the last chapter he came back alive. So, he isn't dead.
No, Sado, Uryuu and Inoue are alive. Ichigo is technically dead, and has been dead since before the Soul Society Arc.
What we're seeing is, to put it simply, his ghost. I'll explain.

Let me first take the example of Inoue, whom we saw once as a spirit very early on in the series. Her soul is still bound to her body by a Chain of Fate connecting the two, and that Chain is still intact. This is also the case with Uryuu and Sado. They are living, breathing human beings whose souls are still very much attached to their body.

This is NOT the case with Ichigo however, as he no longer has a Chain of Fate connecting his soul to his body. It was cut by Tessai, and then ate itself away in the Shattered Shaft, when Ichigo regained his powers.
In other words, he is a Spiritual being(read: a ghost) just like, say, Renji or Rukia, who must use gigai when in the living world. Except creepily enough, he just happens to be using his own corpse as a gigai.

Bottom line: Ichigo is dead. He's a ghost who spends most of his time possessing his own corpse.

I feel like I've explained this recently...

allthetime
04-13-2009, 03:23 PM
I don't think Ichigo should be a captain. He should be in the zero squad instead

Yadomaru
04-13-2009, 04:34 PM
The Royal Guard? When you consider that from what we've seen, he's a Soul Reaper/Hollow hybirid who's apparently even closer to a Hollow than Shinji and the gang, who were going to be exterminated as Hollows?

No offense meant, but I doubt that'll ever happen. At least not unless the new Central 46 is considerably more liberal/tolerant than the previous bunch or Old Man Yamamoto.

TOKYO JOE
04-15-2009, 12:34 PM
No, Sado, Uryuu and Inoue are alive. Ichigo is technically dead, and has been dead since before the Soul Society Arc.
What we're seeing is, to put it simply, his ghost. I'll explain.

Let me first take the example of Inoue, whom we saw once as a spirit very early on in the series. Her soul is still bound to her body by a Chain of Fate connecting the two, and that Chain is still intact. This is also the case with Uryuu and Sado. They are living, breathing human beings whose souls are still very much attached to their body.

This is NOT the case with Ichigo however, as he no longer has a Chain of Fate connecting his soul to his body. It was cut by Tessai, and then ate itself away in the Shattered Shaft, when Ichigo regained his powers.
In other words, he is a Spiritual being(read: a ghost) just like, say, Renji or Rukia, who must use gigai when in the living world. Except creepily enough, he just happens to be using his own corpse as a gigai.

Bottom line: Ichigo is dead. He's a ghost who spends most of his time possessing his own corpse.

I feel like I've explained this recently...

If it is indeed his corpse, then why is his body odor not an issue? That corpse should be rotting by now as the human body is not constructed as a gigai???!!!
Phew!!!
:rotfllmao::bwahaha:

I always wondered about that...

Sorry for being a bit off-topic...

RsR
04-15-2009, 01:30 PM
NO
hes gonna live in the human world wearing a gigai off and on; basically hes gonna do shinigami work doing freelance service. Why; because its cliche and I like cliche's.

Yadomaru
04-15-2009, 06:14 PM
@TOKYO JOE: In theory, you are right...Of course, this is assuming that such mundane considerations[/dripping sarcasm] ever enter into consideration for the author, which given that this is in essence a comic book for teenage boys about ghosts with superpowers is not very bloody likely.

Retsu Unohana
04-20-2009, 07:10 PM
Since he has vizard powers I ont think he would be allowed to

Rosh
04-20-2009, 07:50 PM
Since he has vizard powers I ont think he would be allowed to

Agreed the use of hollow powers is forbidden in the gotei 13, thats why the vizards got kicked out.

sapphirelullaby
04-24-2009, 05:26 PM
In my own opinion, I'd hate for Ichigo to become a captain, even if its only at the very end. It'd kill the story the story for me, because Ichigo & Company (exception: Rukia) are competeley seperate entities from those from Soul Society,and are simply working together for the time being. I'd prefer them remaining that way.

One reason I just don't see it happening is Ichigo's personality. He's just not the type to live at the beck and call of a superior (Yama, Central 46 whenever it's re-established). He's not the type that can simply follow orders; he's guided by his emotions, which would make it all too easy to contradict orders he's given. He lives life his way, and that's just the way he likes it. He's sort of like a vigilante: One who follows his own sense of justice without regards to "the system". We've already seen this happen (going against Rukia's execution, going after Orihime despite being forbidden to, etc), so I'm sure he knows that being a Captain would be last thing he'd want to do. At least, this is what I believe.

Shunshin Yoruichi
07-11-2009, 06:53 PM
I`m sure that after the winter war and the defeat of aizen, some of the captains will recognize ichigo`s importance in the victory and appoint him to be captain of division 3, 5, or 9

Mjaut
07-11-2009, 07:59 PM
If it is indeed his corpse, then why is his body odor not an issue? That corpse should be rotting by now as the human body is not constructed as a gigai???!!!
Phew!!!
:rotfllmao::bwahaha:

I always wondered about that...

Sorry for being a bit off-topic...

Maybe it's because when Kon gets in, at the same time he refreshes it.

wedo0325
07-11-2009, 08:50 PM
As of now i'de say no, reason being he his still a student in high school and still has a life in the real world. I don't think they would have a part-time captain so to speak since he wouldn't be able to be in soul society as much as needed for a captain. now seeing how he is technically not alive when he dies in real life i would say he would just be a soul reaper w/o his body availible to him anymore and at this time yes i think it is more then possible that ichigo will become a captain.

IchiGin
07-12-2009, 07:22 AM
I really pray he doesn't become one... though he is a verry strong fighter

handbrake2
07-12-2009, 06:03 PM
Presumably, there will eventually be some reconciliation between SS and the Vizards given that the Vizards are helping them out of a very tight spot. If that is the case the Vizards may become a some sort of independent group based in the real world, but that co-operate with the G13 and have free access to SS. I could see Ichigo being a part of that group.
If the G13 allowed Vizards into their ranks, how about sympathetic Hollows like Nel? It's a slippery slope.

Kuruk
11-25-2009, 10:07 PM
All things considered, Ichigo is Captain material (if kidou isn't required), but it's just not the right position for Ichigo right now. Him and his friends are still connected with the human world and don't plan on dying just to go to SS and become Shinigami.(Mass suicide!!XD) Ichigo is most likely, as some people have said, to stay with the Vizards, or the special division that SS may possibly give to the Vizards.

d2sharp
11-25-2009, 10:10 PM
Simple answer No. It really doesn't have to be explained.

Sessou
11-25-2009, 11:52 PM
Ichigo has stong reiatsu and the ability to use bankai,Old man Yama has recognised that Ichigo is powerful,and would be able to guide him to reach his full potential.:amused:

Yama-jii also recognizes that Ichigo is still a substitute Shinigami with no formal training of the arts as a Shinigami, and a Vizard on top of that. So the absolute answer to this thread is no.

Yama-jii is by the book and follows a very strict line of law as it relates to SS. If he' allows Ichigo to become a captain, he'd have to ignore the fact that Rose, Love, Kensei and Shinji became Vizards as well, and possibly allow them to retain their previous position before being turned into Vizards. And that's not going to happen anytime soon...


How did this topic go more than 2 pages? :huh:

veldalight
11-26-2009, 12:26 AM
No unless after he dies and there's a vacancy+he's less baka+more life experiences+less 'I'm going to protect my friends, I want to protect them' and ignores Gotei 13, and be vulnerable to being made use of by people+learn to look at things on a macro scale.
At this stage, I doubt he would want to be a captain in Gotei 13 anyway. Less baggage.

rukiaisgod
11-26-2009, 12:56 AM
No unless Aizen kills most of the captains and the gotei 13 needs more captains desperately.

jeuxaijin
11-26-2009, 02:42 AM
nope. hitsu wouldn't be youngest cappy ever then, & nothing gets in the way of hitsu fanservice.

d2sharp
11-26-2009, 05:56 AM
nope. hitsu wouldn't be youngest cappy ever then, & nothing gets in the way of hitsu fanservice.

Are you saying ichigo is younger the toushiro?

jeuxaijin
11-27-2009, 08:03 PM
^ yep. ichi is 15/16ish. that toushiro bg chapter 303.5 was titled -15 which i presume is similar to the title numbers for TPB, so 15 years ago hitsu would've been at least 5 years old (before he entered ss). so he's a conservative 20? i dunno, just a guess. the whole age deal in ss is messed up.

Sotnos
11-27-2009, 09:08 PM
Wont Ichigo die like any normal human?
And then what would happen... he would reborn in soul society then it would make him lose his powers that he would have to regain and then, after few hundreds years he could be a captain, as a new Ichigo in his new life.

Until then I dont see why he would be a captain, I dont see him fight with a 80 years old human body while all of the other captains would be in perfect health(dont mention Ukitake).

skycrapper
11-27-2009, 11:24 PM
To answer the question :NO

Renji.dk
12-05-2009, 07:19 AM
maby someday he will losse his powers like his dad did.

aastik01
12-05-2009, 07:30 AM
I think he is not at all interested in becoming captain.
Post does not matter to him.
And he would not like to leave his family and friends and live in Soul Society!

Renji.dk
12-05-2009, 07:32 AM
I think he is not at all interested in becoming captain.
Post does not matter to him.
And he would not like to leave his family and friends and live in Soul Society!

True what he thinks about is to protect the people around him and dont think there is no way in hell he would leave his home behind and of couse he is only what 15 16 now lol

aastik01
12-05-2009, 07:48 AM
True what he thinks about is to protect the people around him and dont think there is no way in hell he would leave his home behind and of couse he is only what 15 16 now lol
I know u are talking right ut age does not matter here at all.

bleachlover17
12-05-2009, 03:30 PM
I think That if ichigo is asked to become a captain that his dad will be for it but ichigo will have a hard time deciding between his friends and the soul society

kurozangetsu1337
12-05-2009, 05:26 PM
um.... no i dont think so... cuz one ichigo is still a human :nod: and second is that i dont think that you can be part hollow and be a captain :huh:

jeuxaijin
12-05-2009, 05:33 PM
I know u are talking right ut age does not matter here at all.

sure it does, he hasn't yet developed the maturity needed to be a captain.

Count Alucard
12-05-2009, 05:38 PM
He might get the offer...and reject it. I doubt that he would even want that kind of responsibility.

Wras
12-05-2009, 05:44 PM
I don't think it's too out of the realm of possibility, but given the involvement the Gotei has with the Aizen situation and the possible involvement of the Royal Guard, I'd say the entire structure of the Captain system is about to get a major overhaul.

When things are all said in done, I'm guessing Ichigo will be much like the spot he was in at the end of the SS arc. Like a 'substitute' or honorary guest for the Soul Society but not an active part they expect responsibility from.

livingbox
12-08-2009, 11:22 AM
I dont think,he wants to stay in SS in most of his time.Maybe he become the human world captain =).

knocky
12-14-2009, 02:30 PM
he all ready has a role to protect his own city he leads a group of rag tag heros just like the a team

BlueSkies
12-14-2009, 09:55 PM
I think in ways Ichigo will be treated as if he is a Captain - due to his strength as a Soul Reaper. But officially, Ichigo won't be considered a Captain as he is still a human and there's the whole hollowification thing.

And if Ichigo was asked I say he's say no as he still has family to look after and he is still human. But he'll be very highly regarded within Soul Society.

tony_walther
12-14-2009, 11:11 PM
its been known he is of captain class lvl, even surpassing Kenpachi,(which makes me believe he could hold his own against any capt. but yamamoto,*seeing as he has the power lvl of three captains*)but i doubt he would ever be asked to be capt he just doesnt fit there, he HAS to go to the shinigami academy(if hes asked,but i doubt he'd go kenpachi and just kill a capt for no reason other than that, he considers himself friends with them all,except mayuri, they've met only a few times and hes totally creeped out by him)while he is just like kenpatchi(cant use kido,has superior strength, isnt to smart when it comes to analysing his enemy). I doubt it will, how ever i do hope at some point he will receive proper training form someone in all forms of combat so his true badassery can shine through

Vizard126
12-16-2009, 12:09 PM
i just cant see him as a captain maybe if he learned Kido that would be dope seeing ichigo casting spells and stuff lol

phantommaggot
12-16-2009, 12:18 PM
ichigo is strong, only because hes the main character lol.
his attitude is too simple minded and hes kind of a tool.
i say NO to ichigo as any kind of captain.