View Full Version : Who can't "FRAKKING" wait for Battlestar Galactica???
VanquishedAngel
04-03-2008, 09:59 PM
Hey guys... for all of you who follow one of the coolest shows to come along in a while feel free to express your feelings, either positive or negative, theories, wild or mundane, or just plain old talk about everything BSG!!!.
Who can't wait for the final season premier tomorrow?
I'm finally caught up on all the eps and can watch it regularly now. That's crazy who the 4 hidden cylons are. I wonder who will be the last... Maybe the President, that would be ironic.
Halcyon87
04-11-2008, 08:10 PM
^ Yeah that would be. The battle in the first episode of the 4th season was awesome! Plus, Starbuck came back too! Too bad the producers said that this would be the last season.
I loved the music they played during the battle in 3's Finale. "All Along the Watchtowers"
Who is your favorite character?
Mine is Helo. He never backs down from what he believes in even if everyone and everything is against him.
Halcyon87
04-11-2008, 09:03 PM
For me, its a tie between Starbuck and Lee. They're both awesome Viper pilots, and they have had to stand up for what they believe in many times.
This show is mediocre it's far from anything close to cool.
Halcyon87
04-12-2008, 11:29 AM
It's kinda interesting how the Cylons fight each other over crucial decisions even if they are machines.
seiftis
04-12-2008, 09:37 PM
I find Lee a bit boring.
QFT.
Any guess on the final cylon?
Caprica said she could sense the final 5 and they were close, do you think if she saw one of them now that they are aware that she would be able to tell they were cylons? Athena as well.
Why is it that Boomer (just 1 cylon) can go against her number and it`s okay but when a couple 3`s went against the others they shut her down. I used to think 3 was *ìn charge* but now it looks like 1 is even though they do vote.
i wonder if they find earth :muaha:
Woo! Callie is dead!
I liked the way she died, very deserving.
UrsaMajour
04-22-2008, 10:47 PM
Frak yeah! I wasn't sure when the re-imagined series debuted but it won me over *quick*. Cally's death was handled very well. It was really the only logical way to handle it. Tory seems to be reveling in her newfound Cylon-ness. The force with which she hit Cally--hell, I thought that blow was enough to have killed her! What really amazed me about this past ep was the holocaust of the 6s and 8s. That was intense.
VanquishedAngel
04-23-2008, 12:49 AM
Yeaah.... People are here!!!! :yay::yaysorz: I was worried that nobody liked this show.. hehehe...
Favorite character is tough.. Helo is definitely there b/c of his deep conviction. Not to mention Athena.
Right now I am sort of worried about Tory though. Enjoying her character but I am beginning to think that she won't be in too many more of the episodes. Kicked ass the way she disposed of Callie. It was really interesting b/c you have to wonder what was playing out more there? Was that a "cylon/human" conflict or was that a "mistress/wife" conflict?
... As for the cylon civil war I think that they will show that the 6-led faction will have won and there is one Base ship remaining that finds and protects the fleet ... ... :amused:
Ether101
04-23-2008, 12:58 AM
Woo! Callie is dead!
I liked the way she died, very deserving.
I think that it was too kind for her. Anyways, does anyone here have theories on 12?(Dumb Q, I know.) Personally, I want it to be either someone we don't see much of or somebody new. It would be great if it turned out that Model 12 was all ready dead and one cast had some kind of connection to it. Like say 12 was the late Mrs. Adama, frakking funny.
VanquishedAngel
04-23-2008, 01:02 AM
No solid theories as of yet.. but can we go back to Callie for a second.. I know that she is generally a "disagreable wenchy type" but is there some specific reason why she is so disliked. ..
By the way I was sort of beginning to think that Callie was the 12th b/c her disorientation was reminiscent of when the four were revealed...
Ether101
04-23-2008, 01:23 AM
No solid theories as of yet.. but can we go back to Callie for a second.. I know that she is generally a "disagreable wenchy type" but is there some specific reason why she is so disliked. ..
By the way I was sort of beginning to think that Callie was the 12th b/c her disorientation was reminiscent of when the four were revealed...
Well, besides the fact that she was an evil whore?:weird: She shot Boomer in the chest so that she could have a chance at the Chef.:mad:
UrsaMajour
04-23-2008, 06:04 PM
Well, since it was Gaeta who gave Boomer the gun she used to shoot Adama in the S1 finale, my money's on him.
But RetCon is a helluva drug...
So are all the 6's and 8's dead except for Caprica and Boomer?
VanquishedAngel
04-23-2008, 06:31 PM
For now it looks as if that's the case but I hope not. That would be fitting though if they reduced the numbers to two or one. That way they could retain some semblance of individuality.. I wouldn't be surprised if it boiled down to Sharon and Boomer and Caprica and the other six who was leading the rebellion...
Halcyon87
04-23-2008, 06:33 PM
Pretty sad that even Cylons can fall to "petty human emotions" and kill each other for no reason at all.
VanquishedAngel
04-23-2008, 07:02 PM
Pretty sad that even Cylons can fall to "petty human emotions" and kill each other for no reason at all.
But I think that is the point. That they are not different from humans. I mean other than the fact that they are cybernetic how is their cultural "evolution" so different from humans?
I was syked when I thought 3 was coming back (Lucy Lawless FTW) but it was all just a ploy! :yelling:
VanquishedAngel
04-23-2008, 09:38 PM
I know that was such a tease.. Darn it.. I am sure that she will return b/c I suspect that not all of the 3's and 6's are gone..
Belial
04-23-2008, 09:50 PM
all the cylons are close to people in power, but not in power themselves.
tigh....adama
tory....roslin
anders...kara
tyrol...galactica itself
so my guess is dualla...lee
frankly, dualla seems obvious. Her first name is Anastasia which means Resurrection, and Dualla which means dual (human and cylon), Ron D. Moore is not exactly subtle, infact he bludgeons you with the identity of the final cylon.
VanquishedAngel
04-23-2008, 10:19 PM
all the cylons are close to people in power, but not in power themselves.
tigh....adama
tory....roslin
anders...kara
tyrol...galactica itself
so my guess is dualla...lee
frankly, dualla seems obvious. Her first name is Anastasia which means Resurrection, and Dualla which means dual (human and cylon), Ron D. Moore is not exactly subtle, infact he bludgeons you with the identity of the final cylon.
Aaahh.. Belial.. had her in mind too but not b/c of her proximity to Lee but b/c of her proximity to Adama. Didn't know that about her name. That is really interesting.
Halcyon87
04-24-2008, 05:06 PM
Never really thought of it that way, Belial.
Why havent i seen this thread yet? 0_0
My Ops thread went largely ignored so i assumed i was the only fan on here :suspicious:
Check again, I posted and YOU never responded.
...Arse.
'pologies for that, didnt realise :-/
Might as well close it since this is here.
As for the last cylon, for some reason i cant shake the feeling that its Gaius, i mean why else would he see himself now?
Dee isnt shocking enough. The final cylon will have to have some Wow factor. I'm still reeling from Tyrol, i mean for the others they could just be programmed with memories and started out as fresh recruits. Tyrol has been married for decades, which shows how long the cylons have been planning this.
Belial
04-24-2008, 11:39 PM
...Arse.
'pologies for that, didnt realise :-/
Might as well close it since this is here.
As for the last cylon, for some reason i cant shake the feeling that its Gaius, i mean why else would he see himself now?
Dee isnt shocking enough. The final cylon will have to have some Wow factor. I'm still reeling from Tyrol, i mean for the others they could just be programmed with memories and started out as fresh recruits. Tyrol has been married for decades, which shows how long the cylons have been planning this.
At first I was like wtf Cheif Tyrol (a.k.a. tyenol)? Then I realized you just mixed him up with Colonel Tigh.
And I agree. Supposedly he's older than when the hybrid experiments started, much less when they had skin jobs running around. It isn't like people didn't know him back then either.
Still makes no sense to me as to how he is a cylon, me thinks it's just a piss poor excuse just put in for shock and drama factor
How does the aging factor work with him? I mean he's known Adama for decades and Adama's never noticed he hasnt aged?
Belial
04-25-2008, 12:00 AM
How does the aging factor work with him? I mean he's known Adama for decades and Adama's never noticed he hasnt aged?
Well I'd imagine a long term agent would be made to age, I mean if they can nearly perfectly make new humans it wouldn't be beyond them to add some degradation effect over time.
Most likely when one of them dies they get whatever form they're in currently saved and downloaded for resurrection.
That'd be my guess:0
Ah, I meant Tigh, i was fairly tired when i wrote that last night.
I wouldnt be surprised if they aged either, besides he looked younger in the flashbacks. Funny how cylons have programmed male pattern baldness for authenticity.
VanquishedAngel
04-25-2008, 04:55 AM
Ah, I meant Tigh, i was fairly tired when i wrote that last night.
I wouldnt be surprised if they aged either, besides he looked younger in the flashbacks. Funny how cylons have programmed male pattern baldness for authenticity.
Lol... that was a good one about being bald. I don't know about these last 4 but I am pretty sure that they are unique in that they are the only models of their kind.
Do you remember the episode where they find that it was most likely an excursion into cylon space that prompted cyclon's genocidal attack. That in essence it was a pre-emptive attack.. I have a feeling that Tigh was sent out as a "scout" when Adama was stationed on the border of cylon/human space. He probably was sent to tempt Adama so that they could see if humans were trustworthy enough to abide by the armistice. He failed and that is what led to the holocaust.
Eiher that or the cylons possess some sort of technology that allows them to over-write a program into the human body. ... That would be cool over-writing the CNS and PNS..
By the way I think US/Canada get episodes 4 days before we do, so I'm gonna have to avoid this thread on weekends :suspicious:
Ikkaku219
04-25-2008, 08:45 AM
i can't wait
Halcyon87
04-25-2008, 05:27 PM
yeah, N. America gets a new ep every Friday
Favorite space battle anyone?
Cylon civil war is a great development.
On a completly unrelated but relevent note: Dirty blond 6 > Peroxide blond 6.
VanquishedAngel
04-25-2008, 08:36 PM
Dude I didn't know.. sorry about that... I will keep that in mind when we talk about the latest happenings. I would have to say that the S4 opener where the raiders recognize Starbuck's husband as a cylon. Very cool..
ps.. @ DKoala... where are you .. wait let me guess... Australia? Seriously... I should think before I type sometimes.. :oh::amused:
Belial
04-25-2008, 09:03 PM
The cylons on galactica all going insane is good times
Halcyon87
04-26-2008, 12:12 PM
Both the S4 opening battle and the Battle of New Caprica were the best. The Ressurection Ship battle didn't have enough scenes of it.
Belial
04-27-2008, 11:49 PM
http://www.sidereel.com/Battlestar_Galactica
That link gives you streams of all the episodes on one site or another
The only thing ti seems to be missing is the mini series, it has the pilot instead
(for those that don't know, the mini series was more in depth)
Ether101
04-28-2008, 03:29 AM
I think it would be a funny twist if the old man's(I can never remember his name.) wife turned out to be an aged 6.
What a boring eps. I wanted to see more Demetrius.
I don't like zealous Baltar. Doesn't suit his character at all.
Was going to complain about Roslin's new do until she said it was a wig. She lost her allure now.
Next week seems a Demetrius focused ep, should be good except for that No.(Cylon-infatuated-with-Starbuck).
@Belial yeah i know about sidereel but im staying away from it, I prefer the aesthetics of watching it on tv with friends, and the ad break cliffhangers :smile:
Halcyon87
04-29-2008, 04:55 PM
I'm just waiting for the next fleet battle. It's gonna be epic!
Does Caprica know that Tigh is a Cylon?
VanquishedAngel
04-29-2008, 10:53 PM
Does Caprica know that Tigh is a Cylon?
I don't think so. She still thinks that he is human from what she was saying to him in the cell. She said "brains are patterned after yours"... That would be interesting b/c that would mean that the cylons that are "in the flesh" seem to be as confused as the humans are. The raiders at least have a more instinctive understanding of things and are able to perceive the "hidden 4" cylons.
A bit on the boring side but it was still loaded with tension. You have to wonder what is going to happen now that two of the remaining 4 cylons have been semi-exposed, the vestige of their human lives being stripped away. Tory was seen by Lee at Baltar's sermon jeopardizing her place with Roslin, who is becoming quite disagreeable in her final days. And Tyrol was temporarily relieved of duty. Both are that much further away from the habits of their previous
"human existence".... hmmm... :suspicious: .. That begs the question? How do you think that Tigh will act after his "meditative sado-masochistic revelatory session" *ahem ahem* with 6.
By the way whomever called his wife being an aged six... that is something to think about. Good call.. have to wonder about that one..
@ Belial thanks for the hook-up on the streaming.. you have no idea how much that hit the spot. :smile:
UrsaMajour
04-29-2008, 11:32 PM
Tyrol was demoted back to Specialist, not temporarily relieved of duty.
Ether101
04-30-2008, 02:31 AM
Which one is Tyrol? Anybody here familiar with the old shows?
I remember distinctly disliking the old Battlestar, i watched half the movie and one episode, so I probably didnt give it a chance.
Not sure if Tyrol was in the old ones though... at least I didnt see him.
Ether101
04-30-2008, 12:40 PM
I remember distinctly disliking the old Battlestar, i watched half the movie and one episode, so I probably didnt give it a chance.
Not sure if Tyrol was in the old ones though... at least I didnt see him.
No he wasn't. Anyways, in the old shows, there were these people that traveled in ship of light called The Ship of Lights...well, they are called Seraphs off screen and I have this felling that they maybe the ones behind the scene.
The guy who plays Tom Zerik was the Orignal Apollo.
VanquishedAngel
04-30-2008, 10:07 PM
No he wasn't. Anyways, in the old shows, there were these people that traveled in ship of light called The Ship of Lights...well, they are called Seraphs off screen and I have this felling that they maybe the ones behind the scene.
Yes, I completely agree.. I think that they are the "apparitions" that are appearing to the various visionaries in the cast. For instance the No. 6, Starbuck's Cylon, and the new Baltar are all "seraphs"... But I think that there is one person who is a false seraph. I am not sure which one it is. I only say this b/c there was a fallen angel from the ship of lights in the previous BG... Suspect also that Starbuck's visions are also a product of these angelic creatures... From Roslin to Starbuck.. :suspicious::smile:
UrsaMajour
04-30-2008, 10:43 PM
I agree that the Inner Six and Inner Baltar are the new series' version of the beings in the Ship of Lights but I think the new series' will make these beings the Lords of Kobol. I also think Starbuck may be one of them. It's like a Gnostic thing, where Kara Thrace is like a vessel for a higher consciousness, in this case a SoL being/LoK. I definitely agree that one of them may be evil, just like Iblis from the original series. I haven't yet decided which character fits the bill, though.
Ether101
05-05-2008, 04:13 AM
Have they ever gone into who really made to human models? I ask because I think that the re-imagined series maybe continuation of the old series, "All that is happing now has happened before." and what not. And if that is the case, then there's a chances their creator could be Dr. Zee.
VanquishedAngel
05-05-2008, 10:38 PM
Who's Dr. Zee.. i was wondering the same thing about the Lok/SoL people. I think that the SoL is that storm that they passed through. Perhaps the consciousness settled in Starbuck as a human. But I don't know we shall see.. I just get the idea that there are a few things that we may have missed in the episodes that may clues us in on this ...
@ Ursa Majour.. good point :smile: ..
I dont know much about the earlier series so im going to ask this:
What the frak are they doing to Baltar's character? I cant believe im groaning when he gets a scene. He was my favorite character up until last week :suspicious:
VanquishedAngel
05-06-2008, 08:42 PM
I sort of like what they are doing to Baltar. In a way they are giving him more credibility. In the earlier series he was an old narcissistic megalomaniac w/o much to redeem him. Now he's a younger narcissistic egomaniac who is not as aware of his need for power but he's at least more interesting. Plus he's living proof that being evil is an aphrodisiac.. :amused:
I like the old Baltar. A lot of the characters have dramatically changed from where they started. Starbuck, Lee, Tyrol
UrsaMajour
05-06-2008, 10:16 PM
Baltar is classic Judaeo-Christian mythology. He's a horrible, selfish, flawed man who gets elevated by "God" to serve a higher purpose. I think it's interesting to watch his transformation from self-centered a**hole to genuinely ego-less instrument of divine grace.
It'll be messed up when it's all revealed to be a lie...
or when they find out its the cylon god
Belial
05-06-2008, 11:31 PM
or when they find out its the cylon god
the fanatics that follow him won't care, pretty easy to make a speech claiming it to be God of all
Ether101
05-10-2008, 04:11 PM
Who's Dr. Zee.. i was wondering the same thing about the Lok/SoL people. I think that the SoL is that storm that they passed through. Perhaps the consciousness settled in Starbuck as a human. But I don't know we shall see.. I just get the idea that there are a few things that we may have missed in the episodes that may clues us in on this ...
@ Ursa Majour.. good point :smile: ..
The original Starbuck's godson(possibly biological son) his mother was one of the SoL crew.
I have no idea what you guys are talking about, I have seen the original miniseries but it explains nothing of these people of Light. I need to go back and watch the entire series dont I? -_-'
Ether101
05-11-2008, 04:11 PM
I have no idea what you guys are talking about, I have seen the original miniseries but it explains nothing of these people of Light. I need to go back and watch the entire series dont I? -_-'
Not really. Just look up Ship of Lights on Wiki.
VanquishedAngel
05-12-2008, 02:42 AM
Baltar is classic Judaeo-Christian mythology. He's a horrible, selfish, flawed man who gets elevated by "God" to serve a higher purpose. I think it's interesting to watch his transformation from self-centered a**hole to genuinely ego-less instrument of divine grace.
It'll be messed up when it's all revealed to be a lie...
I don't think that it's a lie actually... the one that I suspect is the false prophet is Starbuck.. I think that she's the one who is confused.. It's either her or Roslin... I want it to be roslin but I have this sinking feeling that it's going to be Starbuck...
or when they find out its the cylon god
I think that it is the cylon god.. But I think that he's going to prove to be more tangible than we think. Either that or he's the fallen one (the Iblis in this new version) from the SoL. Oh yeah... you aren't yet familiar with it.. I think that you have to watch the older version (from the 70s) and not the mini-series that introduced this new version. But yeah check it out on wiki...
Looks like Starbuck is going to lead them to Earth, but once they get there it will be the end of everyone.
What kind of time period do you think the Earthlings will be at when Galactica arrives? Will they be at the stages we are at now or further along?
I'd like the Earthlings to kick them out of the Milky Way, I mean they are brining a huge war to a new planet and innocent humans and putting the rest of the hidden human race at stake.
Too bad this is the last season or they could have Galactica vs Earth
VanquishedAngel
05-12-2008, 10:21 PM
Looks like Starbuck is going to lead them to Earth, but once they get there it will be the end of everyone.
What kind of time period do you think the Earthlings will be at when Galactica arrives? Will they be at the stages we are at now or further along?
I'd like the Earthlings to kick them out of the Milky Way, I mean they are brining a huge war to a new planet and innocent humans and putting the rest of the hidden human race at stake.
Too bad this is the last season or they could have Galactica vs Earth
You know that is a good question. I originally thought that they would get there and earth would be in a prehistoric state and they would crash land on earth and that would be the seed for humanity as we know it. Which coincidentally would be an ending of sorts... But now I am not so sure. It would be much smarter for them if they were to place the arrival way in the future b/c then they could continue the story w/o having to be historically accurate. Not to mention that it would explain how the 5 new cylons came from earth. If Earth was technologically advanced then it could explain how the cylons evolved in a course that is parallel to "cylons" that originated from the 13th colony, earth.
Halcyon87
05-13-2008, 03:48 PM
I think they're gonna arrive around 300 A.D., or the time when Christianity started to develop, because all of this "one God" stuff is sounding pretty familiar to the late Roman Empire.
Ether101
05-14-2008, 01:45 PM
No, that would be lame as hell. Not to mention that Judaism was around along time before that.
Edit:Holy Zen!!! Lawyer man is coming back in two weeks.
Argh Athena killed the wrong six, she should have gone after Caprica. I liked the brunette six.
I liked that the Baseship jumped with the President on it. But where did they jump to? Are they still going to carry out the plan or the Baseship completely gone. Looks like Leobin is the leader now.
That's the cyclons problem they need a clear leader. I like the cylons a lot more than the humans.
The humans back stab and can't trust anyone.
Ether101
05-18-2008, 11:06 PM
The opera house vision makes so much more since now. The two hallways represent the Battle Star and the Base Star. BTW, did any of you notice that lawyer guy with the shades was in the preview for the next episode?
VanquishedAngel
05-19-2008, 12:33 AM
Dude how deceptive is Tory?... Just watching her with Baltar on the tivo and she is so deliciously deceptive, sexy, vulnerable, and undeniably fragile and yet she's a cylon so we know that she's capable of great strength and her position next to Roslin gives her access to great power. She is a great character!!! Whoohoo... Don't usually like the sultry and sneaky seductress but this one has caught my attention! :wacko::odd::weird::huh::amused:
I haven't seen it yet but you are right the Brunette six is (was) great. As far as liking the cylons more. I can see that. They are more honest and tend to live w/o fear. They also have an almost childlike curiosity about things that would otherwise weigh the humans down. It really reveals humanity as a less perfect vessel for consciousness, this same consciousness exists w/in humans and cylon it's just that humans have the fear of death and so their development has been different.
WTF... just saw the end.. I am going to have to watch that again at some point in time.. I don't know if it matters who the last cylon is anymore? ... I am going to be still for a moment and mourn the passing of my favorite cylon :sad:
There's a little glimmer of hope. I don't think that the Brunette six is dead yet. There was a little glimpse of her in the next episode. Fingers crossed.. She's the only hope that the cylons and humans have for any understanding of each other.
Ether101
05-19-2008, 01:53 AM
So, no one cares that the Lawyer is coming back?
Not really no.
I download the eps so I didnt get to see the previews for next time.
Ether101
05-19-2008, 05:16 PM
But he's the best and he looks like he got some new kick ass shades.
VanquishedAngel
05-19-2008, 11:09 PM
What do you like about him? I think that he returns to act as a legal expert that help them establish precedent for replacing Roslin. I have been wondering more and more about the supernatural powers at work... I think that at the end we are going to see that there is a serious SoL presence amongst the fleet.
Belial
05-20-2008, 01:00 AM
I'm more interested in the impact of the socially dominant/pro human Col. Tigh will have on the cylons once they found out he is one.
Ether101
05-20-2008, 03:16 AM
What do you like about him? I think that he returns to act as a legal expert that help them establish precedent for replacing Roslin. I have been wondering more and more about the supernatural powers at work... I think that at the end we are going to see that there is a serious SoL presence amongst the fleet.
He's mysterious and cool. The way he just popped up out of nowhere when he was needed and disappeared when his job was done makes him the Kwai Chang Caine of lawyers. To me he seemed to be manipulating Baltar's trial for his own ends. I think that he'll either turn out to be one of the powers, #5 or something else altogether.
I was thinking about it today and to me it seems like Starbuck is the 5th. Because they say that the 5th has been to Earth and Starbuck went there didnt she?
I think that Lee will be the new president maybe not now that she has disapeared but when she dies or the next election comes.
Ether101
05-22-2008, 05:21 AM
Yes, but all five have been to Earth. I think the lady in the tub said the four will lead Starbuck to the fifth.
The HYBRID told Starbuck that the 3's will lead her to the Fifth. Because D'Anna saw all 5 of their faces in the temple before the Nova went off.
Ether101
05-23-2008, 01:59 AM
The HYBRID told Starbuck that the 3's will lead her to the Fifth. Because D'Anna saw all 5 of their faces in the temple before the Nova went off.
Well, I heard that one wrong. But still, that kind of goes against the idea of Starbuck being 5.
VanquishedAngel
05-24-2008, 04:23 PM
Hey guys... i wanted to throw this out there to you... Does the image in this picture look familiar.. I think that it may be some of the inspiration for the storm/SoL mystery...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven
Take a look to the right of the depiction of Dante and Beatrice...
hmmm... :unsure:
I came upon this in my adventures elsewhere.
Ether101
05-27-2008, 02:53 AM
Yeah, it does.
VanquishedAngel
06-01-2008, 10:47 PM
Yeah that was a neat idea for them to change the Ship of Lights into a gas cloud that seems to be sentient. It makes sense... Hmm...
On another note.. Its getting interesting with the 5th cylon being revealed next week. For the record... do you think that it is Roslin or was that just some fancy editing for the preview?
It would make complete sense that Roslin would be the 5th b/c when they encountered the cloud in last seasons' finale she too was behaving weirdly not to mention that she has the shared "walking dream" of the opera house with the other cylons... but.... hmmm...
UrsaMajour
06-02-2008, 12:15 AM
Fancy editing for the promo. I think 3 was talking to Anders.
Ether101
06-02-2008, 01:35 AM
Fancy editing for the promo. I think 3 was talking to Anders.
Probably.
VanquishedAngel
06-09-2008, 01:45 AM
What'd did anyone make of this weeks episode? :unsure: I am beginning to empathize with the cylons a bit...
Shizune22
06-09-2008, 07:55 AM
oops wrong fourum
Ether101
06-10-2008, 07:02 AM
What'd did anyone make of this weeks episode? :unsure: I am beginning to empathize with the cylons a bit...
I did, nice episode and the joke at the end was good.
I knew Lee would be the new President it was obvious just by the way he started to dress and wear his hair.
Do you think of the of the 4 are going to try and kill D'Anna?
VanquishedAngel
06-12-2008, 10:50 AM
No ... I think that the 4 are going to go their separate ways. Tory is going to join the cylons and I don't know what type of welcome she'll get.. And the other three seem to give away the coordinates to Earth somehow.. But they seem on the verge of being air-locked.
I have to tell you my distaste towards Roslin was nearing an all time high and this episode sort of helped me get over some of it... It was nice to know that the authors addressed that she was a character that was becoming full of this nauseating brand of self-righteous hatred..
Which brings me to another point.. the SoL beings that seem to manifest in the sub-conscious. Do you think that they will ever be fully recognized in the storyline?
BTW.. I thought that I posted this message a few days ago but I guess that it didn't take? :suspicious::smile:
EDIT: Just watched Revelations.. Whoa!!! That is intense!
They get to Earth and it's radioactive from a supposed Armageddon! Yikes... Not a human is left. So that answers the question which is that they arrive some time in our future. I guess that means that the "5" are actually survivors ... hmm.. I wonder what their story is? This is getting interesting.. I'll stop babbling..
I wonder what the significance of the 5th is now that they have reached Earth and the conflict between the "Cylons" and "Humans" has finished. Any guesses...
So the 5th was already on the Basestar when D'Anna came back?
VanquishedAngel
06-15-2008, 03:11 AM
That's what I am thinking. The 5th is someone that we know.. It very well might be Roslin. D'Anna asked that the 4 be brought to the Basestar not that the 5 possibly b/c she knew the 5th was already there. So my vote is for Roslin or Baltar.. Both are in the Opera House and each has had more than a few near psychotic breaks with reality. But I am wondering what the purpose of the 5 is. That's turning out to be an intriguing mystery. Any ideas..
Finally caught up on the past 5 weeks of episodes. (Incl the one that hasnt been shown on Sky One)Seems the series is finally coming to an end, though I'm glad earth isn't the same as it was in the original series.
Well she said the 5th wasnt in the fleet, but if the 5th was on the basestar and they returned all the hostages and that cylon still doesnt know you think she would have said something. Maybe the 5th is on Earth right now?
Ether101
06-18-2008, 02:43 PM
I'm starting to think that the fifth may no longer be amongst the living. I have this idea that there were only 12 humanoid Cylons originally. Something happened and they started to mass produce them selves and things got out of hand.
I'm a bit confused with the whole final cylon business. It's nobody on the fleet, but when D'Anna saw the face of the final one she said something like "You" didn't she? Which means it's someone she knows.. What other characters has she met?
Admiral Cain maybe?
No, I think it was Sam Anders. Because she said she was sorry to him. She met him on Earth and tried very hard to kill him remember? Boomer and Caprica killed D'Anna to save him, committing the first act of cylon on cylon violence.
Ether101
06-28-2008, 02:26 PM
I'm a bit confused with the whole final cylon business. It's nobody on the fleet, but when D'Anna saw the face of the final one she said something like "You" didn't she? Which means it's someone she knows.. What other characters has she met?
Admiral Cain maybe?
There is nothing hinting that the one she said sorry to was the final one. I think there are three possibilities about the whereabouts of the fifth.
1)Is being held prisoner by the Cylons.
a)With Fifth not knowing that its a Cylon. And the Cylons not know its one of them.
b)With Fifth knowing that its a Cylon. And the Cylons not know its one of them.
c)With Fifth knowing that its a Cylon. And the Cylons know its one of them.
d)With Fifth not knowing that its a Cylon. And the Cylons know its one of them.
2)Fifth is dead. And it was one of the cast parent.
3)Fifth is on it's own somewhere and was never part of either side.
True, i guess i assumed the one she said sorry to was the fifth one because there's a big deal being made of of him/her.
Sam Ander's seems a solid bet too.
When is the mid season break due to finish?
It wont be back till the fall, it's like a new season but not.
Conholio
06-29-2008, 09:22 PM
That at least gives people enough time come up with random theories for the end of the series. M. night shamawhat ever his last name is only wishes in his most wildest fantasy that he could pull off half of the twists this show has done.
Ether101
07-01-2008, 03:10 AM
That at least gives people enough time come up with random theories for the end of the series. M. night shamawhat ever his last name is only wishes in his most wildest fantasy that he could pull off half of the twists this show has done.
You know, dissing him got old before it was ever popular to do it in the first place.
I blame LOST for starting the mid season break trend :suspicious:
I know its the production companies, i just dont like Lost
Belial
07-01-2008, 03:47 PM
You know, dissing him got old before it was ever popular to do it in the first place.
That faggot needs every single piece of criticism ever created by man.
Can't wait for the end. Last ep is supposed to be 3 hours long, but sci-fi will probably break it up into segments.
Ether101
07-01-2008, 04:01 PM
I blame LOST for starting the mid season break trend :suspicious:
I know its the production companies, i just dont like Lost
That was going on way before Lost.
That faggot needs every single piece of criticism ever created by man.
Can't wait for the end. Last ep is supposed to be 3 hours long, but sci-fi will probably break it up into segments.
Oh yeah, why is that? I ask even thou I know you wont be able to give a good reason.
Lost was the first show to do it over here, the prison break, heroes and now BSG.
Its an annoying concept to drag out the profit a show makes.
Ether101
07-02-2008, 05:09 AM
Because his movies are uninspired and incredibly hoaky.
Wow, maybe you should stop acting like a six year old Avatar fanboy.
Lost was the first show to do it over here, the prison break, heroes and now BSG.
Its an annoying concept to drag out the profit a show makes.
In the States, it's done all the time. Hell, I know Stargate used to do it and I think Fare Scape did it too.
VanquishedAngel
01-16-2009, 11:00 PM
My God! Has anyone seen the premiere? My God! :unsure:
No I forgot it was on yesterday, I will have to download it soon.
Ether101
01-17-2009, 04:59 PM
I still think Hellena is a 6.
That's bullshit, she's such a bad pick for the 5th. I hope Saul is just high or something. I mean of all the people to be the 5th there is no shock value in that. And what is Starbuck?
Also what the hell is up with Earth, it sounds like they knew it would be like this at the end of the eps. They're talking about a war n shit. (I missed the first 10 mins of the eps but doubt it was all explained there)
Yeah I'm hoping Saul was delusional about that too, big letdown otherwise.
Mulling it over i was thinking maybe she's just an older Starbuck, but then realised that wouldn't work, since Saul would realise she looks exactly like his wife 20years ago.
There were a few wtf things in the episode. The fact that they were Cylons seems a bit of a plot hole, how do they have bones if the organic ones are relatively new? Why were they all human form?
Also, finding things on a beach after 2000 years was a bit dodgy to me...
The surprise suicide shocked me though, one of the best "Holyfrakkingjebus" moments of the series so far personally.
All the attractive ones are offing themselves :P
Yeah I didn't get the whole suicide thing. I thought maybe someone came in and shot her even though there was no way for them to escape.
I don't understand how the cylons lived on earth 2000 years ago but were only created what 40 years ago? And what happen to Earth? It sounded like at the end all the colonies left from Earth because of the holocost, but that's not what they've been saying the entire series, they said that the Earthlings went off own their own and found Earth.
I'm so confused.
VanquishedAngel
01-21-2009, 01:36 AM
Yeah I didn't get the whole suicide thing. I thought maybe someone came in and shot her even though there was no way for them to escape.
I don't understand how the cylons lived on earth 2000 years ago but were only created what 40 years ago? And what happen to Earth? It sounded like at the end all the colonies left from Earth because of the holocost, but that's not what they've been saying the entire series, they said that the Earthlings went off own their own and found Earth.
I'm so confused.
The suicide was so sudden. It really wrecked me for a bit. Right before her suicide I was just thinking that Dualla was a beacon of light and strength while everyone was just disintegrating around them. And then I realized that she was already gone. She had made her decision sometime during Apollo's speech. When she kissed him she was already gone. I don't even think that Gaeta would have been able to stop her if he had been in the room. When she was remarking about the picture she had already decided that she had reached the end of the line! I mean wtf! That was some good writing. I should have known something was up b/c of her erratic behavior which was such a contrast to her surroundings. She was too happy.
As for the cylons? I am confused about that too.. I don't get it? The only thing that I can make of it is that it is a spin-off of the last series. I may not have it right but I think that after the end of the last one the cylons were sent off into space. Perhaps they came back and conquered earth repopulating it with cylon hybrids and the humans later came back and attacked them with nukes. They sent a distress beacon to the cylons that were close to the human colonies and that triggered a similar attack except this time it was from the cylons against humanity. Remember that the cylons said that the humans attacked first and Adama and Tigh (who thought that he was human at the time) believed that they had caused it b/c they ventured into cylon space. What if they were talking about the cylon colony that was destroyed.
Or it could just be that the earth they are talking about is not our earth. Perhaps it's a cylon earth that was destroyed by internal cylon squabbles or another colony of humans?
I don't even know what the hell Starbuck is. She has to be a cylon! So far the only characters that have been seen to reincarnate have been cylon. I am still waiting for the Ship of Light people to make an appearance. They are the only characters that I know of that can reincarnate something. I am just hoping that they don't do us like a Lost season finale! :huh: they had better give us some frakking answers.
Oh that's right. I didn't see much of the original (just the first maybe 2 or 3 eps) But I heard people saying that Starbuck was on of the people of Light or w/e. I have no idea what they are, but they incorporate a lot of things from the original and they seem to be a big part.
The only *major* but not really thing they left out was Boxy, instead of the robo-pigdog they named that one kid Boxy as a shoutout I guess.
VanquishedAngel
01-21-2009, 11:23 PM
Oh that's right. I didn't see much of the original (just the first maybe 2 or 3 eps) But I heard people saying that Starbuck was on of the people of Light or w/e. I have no idea what they are, but they incorporate a lot of things from the original and they seem to be a big part.
The only *major* but not really thing they left out was Boxy, instead of the robo-pigdog they named that one kid Boxy as a shoutout I guess.
Yeah.. Actually I seem to remember that episode pretty vividly. There was one among the SoL who was a sort of cast as the devil and he tried to seduce Apollo and Starbuck. I am not sure but I think that she may be a sinister actor on the scene. A false prophet who was sent to take them to an earth that was abandoned and devastated so as to weaken their faith. Perhaps this power orchestrated Starbuck's return so as to undermine Roslin in her role as the leader and the prophet. The result is this desolate state of affairs that the fleet finds itself in at the moment.
I also read somewere on the web that the BG "universe" may not be consistent in the sense that it may not parallel the previous series and that it definitely does not parallel ours. So in their world it may be that earth was supposed to be inhabited by cylons. I am just waiting for some real answers. I must say that I really don't see the significance of the 5th. I mean she's dead. What about her relationship with Tigh is going to be of any significance now? The fifth is not what I thought at all. It's sort of a real let down.
How could it be inhabited by cylons? They were only created 40 years ago. and the Earth colony has been legend for thousands of years.
VanquishedAngel
01-22-2009, 09:37 PM
How could it be inhabited by cylons? They were only created 40 years ago. and the Earth colony has been legend for thousands of years.
Is it that they were created 40 yrs prior or was it that the cylon war was 40 yrs ago?
EDIT: Just finished watching the last show... It's official.. I hate Gaeta.. I hope that frakker wakes up a cylon one day!
Ether101
02-03-2009, 04:52 PM
That's bullshit, she's such a bad pick for the 5th. I hope Saul is just high or something. I mean of all the people to be the 5th there is no shock value in that. And what is Starbuck?
Also what the hell is up with Earth, it sounds like they knew it would be like this at the end of the eps. They're talking about a war n shit. (I missed the first 10 mins of the eps but doubt it was all explained there)
Chill, the twist is going to be that she's one of the original 12 cylons, the one that the 6s were based on.
How could it be inhabited by cylons? They were only created 40 years ago. and the Earth colony has been legend for thousands of years.
It was said many times that all that is happening now has happened before, now we know that they were being literal.
VanquishedAngel
02-03-2009, 11:06 PM
Chill, the twist is going to be that she's one of the original 12 cylons, the one that the 6s were based on.
You know .. I was thinking that might be the case. That was why Tigh fell for her and perhaps why she was able to conceive with him.
It was said many times that all that is happening now has happened before, now we know that they were being literal.
Yeah... I guess so.. I can't for the life of me figure out how it is going to end. I wonder if when things look so bleak and desolate and that the human race will end that the SoL will show up and rectify things.
I just caught up on the 2 parter last night. Adama and Sol duel wielding a rifle and pistol is possibly the coolest thing I've seen on TV in a while. Hell yeah.
Ether101
02-17-2009, 01:21 PM
Well my 6 theory was wrong.
6 Theory?
I just caught up last night, I only get to watch them when I go home every second weekend these days :(
I've grown to the idea of Ellen being the 1st. I actually like her character since she got her memories back.
VanquishedAngel
02-26-2009, 03:06 PM
6 Theory?
I just caught up last night, I only get to watch them when I go home every second weekend these days :(
I've grown to the idea of Ellen being the 1st. I actually like her character since she got her memories back.
Hey DK... good to have you back.. Yeah she's not bad.. but she is still destructive as all hell.. Look at her interaction with Sol and Caprica. It's really interesting to see the humanization of the cylons.
A theory.. I think that they are human b/c their consciousness needs to be organic in order to pass on. I think that we are going to meet these angels that what's his face.. Starbuck's husband, speaks of.. It's going to be a big ending!
EDIT:... Any comments on the series finale?
Ether101
03-23-2009, 12:55 AM
Well, what I saw of the finally sucked real bad, thoughts?
VanquishedAngel
03-24-2009, 10:56 PM
Well, what I saw of the finally sucked real bad, thoughts?
What didn't you like about it? I actually thought that from a storyline point of view they did a good job wrapping it up. But I wasn't too thrilled about the timeline. Not to mention what did you think about Tori's fate?... I thought that was dubious... How did it differ from what you expected?
Ether101
03-26-2009, 06:59 AM
What didn't you like about it? I actually thought that from a storyline point of view they did a good job wrapping it up. But I wasn't too thrilled about the timeline. Not to mention what did you think about Tori's fate?... I thought that was dubious... How did it differ from what you expected?
The way it end left to many plot and logic holes.
VanquishedAngel
03-26-2009, 05:25 PM
The way it end left to many plot and logic holes.
Which ones?... for example I was a little pissed that Galen (that moron) killed the supposed love of his life. I mean Callie was a wench who needed killing. The other thing was that where were all the cylons in the present day? Did they pass on.. and how is it that Athena had everyone's common DNA on the planet?
Ether101
04-26-2009, 03:19 PM
The cylons on Earth eventually died. The enemy cylons in space ran into the Protodeviln and were never herd from again.
I watched 2 episodes last night and I must say I found these series really good
I just have one question:who thought of ''frakking''?It must be the stupidest thing I've ever listened to in television
Ether101
05-21-2009, 12:47 AM
I watched 2 episodes last night and I must say I found these series really good
I just have one question:who thought of ''frakking''?It must be the stupidest thing I've ever listened to in television
Frak is just a way to say fuck on tv.
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