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Hero_Akiar
05-05-2008, 03:23 AM
Turn A V.S Dragon gundam
Note: This is on earth so the dragon gundam can use its fire based moves
SYSTEM ∀-99 (WD-M01) ∀ Gundam - piloted by Loran Cehack - At his peak (just before fight with Turn X), he can use the Moonlight butterfly at will and has total control over its range. We all know the Turn As abilities and arments...
GF13-011NC Dragon Gundam - Piloted by Neo Chinas hysterical Sai Saici - It basically has no real defence as most of G gundams lack. It's quite big on the attack and is basically the 2nd best gundam of the shuffle alliance. And have course, the Shin Ryusei Kochoken was able to destroy a god finger after the dragon gundam had basically been mutalated by Domon.
I thought this would be a good fight, a suit with massive power against a suit with massive plot armour. This is pretty much the only fight I'll put a G Gundam in. Who'd you think would take this?
Also, this is not a gundam fight so head shots aren't instant wins.
Yadomaru
05-05-2008, 08:30 AM
he can use the Moonlight butterfly at will and has total control over its range.
Also, this is not a gundam fight so head shots aren't instant wins.
Those two sentences mean trouble.
See, Sai's gonna go and lop off the Turn-A's head, and then go LOLWUT??? when Loran keeps on fighting.
And eventually, Loran will probably ticked off enough to use Moonlight Butterfly, which means that no matter whether Sai was winning at that point, he will automatically lose and probably be suffocated by the enormous pile of dust that was once his Gundam.
Turn-A FTMFW. But at least Sai's not gonna get as horribly, horribly PWNed as he would've against Turn-X.
CincauAsuka
05-05-2008, 10:53 PM
I thinnk Dragon Gundam wouldn't stand a chance if its defense is low...
Randomperson
05-06-2008, 12:24 AM
*GUNDAM FIGHT! READY?! GO!!!*
-Loran dashes backwards and shoots at Dragon
-Sai dodges the shots and moves in
-Loran adds multipurpose launchers to create a barrage of gunfire/rockets thats difficult to dodge
-Sai spins his Naginata at high speed to block the shots
-Loran notices he can't see Dragon anymore because the explosions covered it with a smokescreen and keeps on hold to react
-Beam flags shoots out of the smokescreen around Loran, Sai doesn't want Loran to pick him off just from exiting the smokescreen
-Loran is distracted by the beam flags for a split second and fires into the smoke as reflex
-Sai rushes out and moves around Turn A, faster than the human eye can see!
-Sai cuts Turn A in half and notices its made of Papier Mache (Cardboard)! Sai is irritated
-Real Turn A which replaced itself with a Papier Mache double which conveniently hid in the area as Sai was in the smokescreen appears and slashes at Dragon Gundam
-Sai Blocks the sabre with his Naginata
-Because Dragon holds the Naginata with both hands, Loran tries to point blank Dragon's Head with the beam rifle in the other hand
-The hand is cut off by Dragon's Tail, both Gundams retreat at range
-Sai (speaking in english dub roflness): "Not bad, mister! but how d'ya like this!" Dragon turns gold and is in super mode
-Loran is about to do something in the meantime, but the referee whistles and yells at him "NO ATTACKING DURING THE HENSHIN SEQUENCES!!!"
-Sai uses his Shinryusei Kochouken
-Loran blocks it with his shield (that moonrace stuff is dam durable) and turns moonlight Butterfly on
-Insert Dramatic scene in which both adversaries are pushing against eachother, and then pushing eachother to distance.
-Loran Charges
-Sai notices his Beam Flags are disentigrating and sees the power of Moonlight Butterfly, he throws a few more beam flags in front of Turn A while backing away
-Loran ignores them
-Sai throws another set of Beam flags in front of Loran and shoots flames out of his Dragon Fangs, combines with the beam flags he creates first a wall, then a tornado of fire around Turn A which builds up more and more heat - Houka Kyouten Juuzetsujin - The extreme heat destroys the Nanomachines and prevents them from spreading (see Battle Angel Alita's Plasma against Sachumodo's Morion Omiclay)
-Randomperson is too lazy to continue/end the story and wants everyone to make their own thoughts about it.
CincauAsuka
05-06-2008, 11:39 PM
Nice one...
Ichierzen
05-07-2008, 06:26 PM
Naw man, this is the way I see it goin' down:
Sai's hangin' in his Gundam, meanwhile Loran's just flying around, minding his own business, and happens across Sai, well, Sai challenged Loran to a Gundam fight, and before Loran can even say "What", Sai's sent his right arm after the Turn A.
Loran first blocks with his shield, which successfully dodges the attack, but Sai's already sent the second arm after, and in motion, catches A's hand, and pulls the A in toward him. Of course Loran tries to hold his ground and the two begin pulling at each other.
Reacting, Loran aims his rifle at the arm, and begins shooting, trying to blow the arm off, but it doesn't do anything, so he ditches the rifle while Sai's laughing and mocking him, and Loran pulls out the beam sabre, stopping Sai mid-sentence and forcing him to retreat the arm.
Seeing the opportunity, Sai shoots a wave of fire toward Loran, now shieldless and rifleless, who leaps into the air and starts heading toward Dragon, who lowers the intensity of the attack, allowing it to move, so as to aim it toward Turn A. A disappears, however, leaving Sai to end the attack and wonder where his opponent has gone, who shows up behind the Dragon, beam sabre against the Gundam's "neck".
Dragon's not done, however, as he initially ejects the core fighter, forcing the Turn to back away, having done so in a way that miraculously kept the beam sabre from taking Dragon's head, though it took the left side of the naginatas on the core fighter.
Dragon, now free turns and shoots his left arm at the Turn, who disappears once more, this time in front of the Dragon, beam sabre deactivated and pointing directly at Dragon's midsection. Loran, smart as he is, turns on the sabre, and as it begins to peel away at the armor of Dragon's waist, Sai flees backward, leaving Turn in pursuit.
Sai then goes Master mode, astonishing Loran, who'd never seen such a thing, but A can handle it, who then activates the Butterfly, turning Dragon to ash, and allowing the Turn to get its rifle and shield, and return to what it was doing beforehand.
Sai, defeated and feeling dishonored at not being able to do anything while in Master mode, wallows in his sorrow until some girl comes along and offers him ramen.
Victory: Turn A
CincauAsuka
05-08-2008, 12:00 AM
Lol...
Randomperson
05-08-2008, 09:22 AM
who then activates the Butterfly, turning Dragon to ash
You shouldn't talk of Moonlight Butterfly as an instant effect thing (you can't just say "the gundam is ashes" as soon as its turned on), in most games for example the attack usually doesn't take effect until the opponent is covered in the "cloud". Even in the cloud, the destruction isn't instant, as we've seen with the Soleil which was able to I-Field itself into it a bit and even "prevented it from spreading" by using the field.
By the zomg logic of G Gundam, the energy flow around the gundam when in Super (Hyper for Domon, not Master) mode can be used as some sort of shield (don't forget Sai withstood God Finger while in his kouchouken). Also Sai has hax speed (he can move faster than you can look) and is more known for not going as directly (usually setting up multip-phased attacks with twists and surprises).
There's a thing added with Loran being able to control the butterfly, in my opinion thats something like the way Usso can control the minovsky drive (he can move the wings freely), but the nanomachine cloud should still spread normally. I think by the logic (lack thereof) of G Gundam, Sai could actually move or kouchouken into the cloud without immediately taking harm if in Super mode.
I'm not saying Sai must win, I'm saying don't blindly go "moonlight butterfly = win", because thats about the same mistake as with "coordinator = win", "newtype = win" or "TBR = win".
Other than that, could someone please kill the guy/people who keeps making accounts to post stupid adds into this forum?
CincauAsuka
05-09-2008, 06:29 AM
I understand what your trying to say randomperson...
Ichierzen
05-11-2008, 09:09 PM
Yeah, I know, I know, just got tired of writing when the outcome's rather predictable.
CincauAsuka
05-11-2008, 11:19 PM
Lol...
Anyway, great job with the battle visualization...
Randomperson
05-12-2008, 05:17 AM
[offtopic]
again, somebody please kill those peeps posting the stupid ads in here...
Hero_Akiar
05-13-2008, 02:24 PM
Domon raises suspicions of the turn A being a follower of the devil gundam. Sais guardians suggest he fights it for training or to get him in shape...either way the shuffle alliance butt out.
Sai charges the turn A with a nagnita and loran blocks with his shield. Sai jumps back and loran shouts out "stop! (etc...)" sai pretty much indulged in the fight ignores him and throws some nagnitas around loran.
Loran Stands there and fires warning shots. Sai shoots some fire at loran and the turn A starts roasting. The outer layer of the turn A goes blackish and loran is protected through the cockpit but can still feel pain from the heat. After a while, Sai takes the nagnitas back and behaves cocky as the turns A falls to its knees.
The dragon gundam now turns around and then the Turn A suddenly starts regenerating. Domon shouts out from the background "the ability to regenerate etc.....dark gundam!!!!!! (dum dum dum!!!)". Domon calls for the god gundam but sai steps in and says "no worrys bro, i got this one!", the dragon gundam enters super mode and domon says in a low voice "sai saici..." (doubting him) loran now very angered stands the recovered turn A and charges.
Sai uses a nagnita to stab through lorans shield. Loran aims at the dragon gundam from point blank but sai does a super fast evade and retreats back intp the air, loran still firing at him. He throws the beam rifle away and draws a beam saber. Sai throws the nagnitas again but loran cuts two of about 7 and jumps in the air where sai is.
Loran shouts and the moonlight butterfly is activated. Sai, stunned by the butterfly appearance gets into a losing dead lock against the turn A and gets slammed to the ground. Sai stands and recalls his remaining nagnita and says, "how dare you use a shoalin move in the name of evil!" and sais guardians are shouting out "you must beat him, revive the temple..." Sai says "I'll show you the true Shin Ryusei Kochoken!".
Loran conveniantly waits whilst sai jumps in the air and does the stance. He then uses a nagnita and started spinning around backwards before heading straight for the Turn A. Loran pretty much goes straight at sai and a fierce deadlock follows.
The turn A is pushing the dragon gundam back before clips of sais dad etc... start coming into his head. Sai then suddenly slashes clean off the left arm of the turn A and is directly behind the turn A. Sai then tries to turn to stab it straight from behind. Loran increases the moonlight butterfly and sai is now desparatly trying to land a final blow to the back of the turn A.
As he's getting closer and closer the super mode starts wearing off and the head and the legs of the dragon gundam start falling apart. Sai shouts out "AAARRRRRHHHHHHH!!!!!!" and is almost there but then loran shouts out "For queen diana etc...." Then the dragon gundams arms start break off and the dragon gundams torso falls to the ground. And the nagnita is just into the turn A but not enough to cause damage. It switches off and falls next to the torso. Loran makes a quick get away before domon can give chase which ends the fight.
That's my opinion...Some exagerations in some areas. I think G gundam plot surprises will come in and sai seems to have a knack of being involved. (mummy and god gundam).
(I second the idea that the idiots advertising adult material in the gundam area should get killed...)
CincauAsuka
05-14-2008, 03:16 AM
That's really nice, Hero Akiar...
[Off topic]
I tried to advise them to move theri thread somewhere else...
I think the admins move them...
I really hate those advertisers...
Randomperson
05-15-2008, 04:24 AM
Hmm (underline=vid link)
-Don't underestimate the shield, its quite sick. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf7-sPBQxZU)
-Sai has imba speed and doesn't attack as directly and does not throw naginatas directly at people. they are multipurpose (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jQUS1QFNPI) and sometimes get used to set up hoka kyota juuzetsujin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5ocUeGbk2A)
-Needs more queue (speaking of G Gundam surprise moments)
true Shin Ryusei Kochoken
the "Shin" already means true rofl
How come they keep on coming? I mean usually mods IP ban for such things, but these posts mostly land in this forum only hinting that its the same person, or maybe this board section is linked into some spam web? :P
CincauAsuka
05-15-2008, 06:13 PM
Lol...
[Off topic]
Anyone here are related to any admins???
I got fed up with does idiots...
I think Dyne miss something changing the whole forum...
Hero_Akiar
05-24-2008, 07:48 AM
The shield generates an I-Field, but I fields can be uneffective against close ranged weapons like when the neue ziel ripped off the GP03-D's i field :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Og50m1Z5UfA&feature=related
CincauAsuka
05-26-2008, 05:40 AM
Wat does I-field do generally???
Randomperson
05-26-2008, 06:17 AM
I-Field:
Dense amount of concentrated Minovsky Particles that interfere with other particles. An I-Field will usually nullify most beam attacks while consideringly weakening extra strong ones.
Other stuff similiar to I-Fields:
-Semi-Transparent Coating: A very stupid way of creating a anti-beam field by using up tons of energy to create a crapload of lairs of shields that each deflect a certain wavelength. This technology got used for very short time and got discarded because it needed too much energy and was too expensive compared to its actual effect.
-Beam Resistant Coating: The first measure against beam attacks, it will weaken the beam attacks a little bit so the Gundam can't one-shot stuff with it as easily anymore. The coating didn't totally stop beam attacks, they just minimally weakened it so that if you are lucky and hit in a bad angle, you wouldn't get damaged that bad.
-Anti Beam Coating: Anti Beam Coating in its early age was what made the Hyaku Shiki gold (if applied in suffiscient amount), it was the first coating that would actually hold against damage caused by beam attacks, but would evaporate while doing so causing the same spot to become vulnerable over time.
-ABC Mantle: The capes used by Crossbone Vanguard units. Basically, they put Anti-Beam Coating onto a piece of persistent cloth so they don't have to keep maintaining the unit itself and could just discard the cloth and get a new one. The cloths weren't gold and the areas that get hit are instantly charred. Either people invented the colorless/brown Anti-Beam Coating or you need a thick layer of it to make things gold, which would be kinda wasteful if you do that on a piece of cloth that you swap out every battle.
What normal I-Fields do not work against:
-Physical Projectiles: An I-Field usually only interferes with energy, but is just "air" to something physical. The exception to this rule is a Biosensor I-Field of a strong NT overcharging, such as Kamille. The density of Minovsky particles around Zeta were concentrated so heavily, that the "I-Field" it generated would block a physical projectile and is partually responsible for Zeta staying in one piece while waverider-crashing into The O.
-Minovsky Particle Weaponry: Minovsky Particles do not interfere with eachother as well as it would stop a Mega Particle (usual Beam attack energy). Most U.C. Beam-Based melee weapons (such as sabres) are Minovsky based. One of the fiew known Minovsky based ranged weapons are shots from Fin Funnels (so you can't I-Field Amuro's Fin Funnel bolts). This shows why Amuro can nullify an enemy beam attack with a Fin Funnel shot (vs Gyunei) and why the Fin Funnel Barrier blocks Physical Attacks (since its Minovsky based you might as well assume it as a triangular Beam Sabre).
-VSBRs: The penetration mode of a VSBR was made to adapt to beam shields becoming common on the battlefield, it concentrates a so high amount of energy into a narrow beam that it would get clean through anything except a similiarly strong concentration.
-Attacks that have too much power: You can get through an I-Field with a Beam attack if the I-Field is weak enough and your beam attack overpowers it. You can't expect blocking a colony laser with your I-Field for example. Minovsky weaponry and VSBRs basicly apply this rule in a more concentrated fashion. All you need is an attack with more concentration than a normal beam shot.
Now as for Turn A, it does NOT have an I-Field Generator, neither in its shield nor anywhere. But it still has an I-Field simply because its engine disperses so many Minovsky particles that it creates one as convenient side-effect (where else do you wanna put ~30000 kW when not using Moonlight Butterfly when you have a minovsky type generator? ~9000 is enough for Freedom Gundam to do anything necessary and keep a Phase Shift up, and Turn A doesn't have as godly speed as you'd expect from this power output, seeing as a SUMO only has ~1/8th of its power).
Usually, a Gundam's shield can only serve as cover for a few hits, because they are more or less just a piece of metal you hold in front of yourself. The U.C. version is specially coated on the outside (but not on the inside, allowing Amuro's "shoot thru own shield" maneuver making it impossible for any opponent to see if he will fire, when he will fire and where he's aiming at at the expense of losing his shield.) allowing it to not get lazord thru by a single beam attack (but the coating will evaporate making the shield lose its capacity of blocking beam attacks on the place of impact). Turn A's Shield however, is not coated at all, but it STILL holds beam attacks, except there's no coating that would evaporate. Of course, its I-Field does a good deal of help with normal attacks, but I-Fields by far can't hold TBR off and seeing that you need to press a beam sabre for like, 2 seconds onto Turn A itself to leave a mark, that shield of it should have similiar traits and its considerably "fat" compared to shields of other Gundams.
CincauAsuka
05-26-2008, 06:58 AM
Oh thanks, randomperson...
Hero_Akiar
05-26-2008, 11:28 AM
As for Turn A, it does NOT have an I-Field Generator, neither in its shield nor anywhere. But it still has an I-Field simply because its engine disperses so many Minovsky particles that it creates one as convenient side-effect
Apparently that's true. I asked a friend and the Turn A supposibly doesn't actually have an I-field generator. I was aware that the main body of the Turn A never had an actual I-field generator. I actually found the exact clip floating around on youtube which suggested the shield generated the I-field.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id0Vib5CfRE
But if you actually listen what loran says, the Shield is used with the I-field, lol.
Randomperson
05-27-2008, 12:21 AM
Because once something hits the shield it already got passed the I-Field which usually covers a spherical area around the unit. If the shield had a generator I wouldn't know it because I'm pretty sure its the engine.
CincauAsuka
05-27-2008, 05:59 AM
Oh, something new for me to know...
Hero_Akiar
06-06-2008, 04:50 AM
Yeah, I know, I know, just got tired of writing when the outcome's rather predictable.
G gundams are unpredictable because of plot twists and thier incorporation of shonen power-ups. In no way should domon have actually beaten the devil gundam or even the speigal/shadow gundam for that matter.
I forgot to mention that the option of them both killing eachother applies to loran holding the nukes in his chest, a bit late...
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