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frack
07-21-2008, 08:03 PM
I think this movie looks amazing, though I don't know that much about it. I know it's based on a comic series by Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons, and I know that the preview for this movie had me drooling. What do you guys think of it?
Skirr
07-22-2008, 01:37 PM
It looks amazing!!! I'm like half way through the comic. Fucking awesome also.
RannaBebop
07-25-2008, 09:16 PM
i thought it looked amazing :D and the song they played for the preview drew me in even more !
Shishio17
07-26-2008, 01:02 AM
The comic book was unbelievably awesome, and they seem to have done a good job with the transition to film.
frack
07-27-2008, 10:34 AM
I looked up some more stuff about it and, I must say, Rorschach has become my favorite person ever. EVER. Still can't wait for the movie.
Mystic Kal-El
07-31-2008, 09:14 AM
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Looks good.
Night
07-31-2008, 09:44 AM
Looks epic, heh..
Chimp Dudley
07-31-2008, 11:21 AM
The trailer looked pretty crazy and interesting. I think I'll check the movie out.
Also, I really liked the song from the trailer too. It's a slowed down version of "The Beginning is the End is the Beginning" by Smashing Pumpkins.
es/sa
08-16-2008, 09:09 PM
yeah this version of the song is called "the end is the beginning is the end" lol.
can't wait for the film, watchmen is one of my favorite comics ever.
i just hope snyder doesn't fuck it up, this is the greatest comic book ever written we're talkin about here.
Skirr
08-17-2008, 04:08 AM
I JUST FINISHED THE COMIC LIKE TWO DAYS AGO. <3
Rorshach is just AWESOME. =]
frack
08-17-2008, 08:33 AM
Lol isn't he? I watched the preview again, and that song really adds to it. Something about Dr. Manhattan blowing up some guy to the Smashing Pumpkins is just awesome.
New trailer! (http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer/watchmen/feature-trailer)
End Spoiler for anyone who hasn't read the comic
Apparently they got rid of the giant psychic squid, they replaced it with a bomb. I'll give them that I suppose, since i thought the squid thing was a bit far fetched. I think its still being done as an apparent alien attack on the planet so the significance is the same.
TokyoRacer
11-14-2008, 01:25 PM
This is my most anticipated movie for 2009.
I really hope the director keeps his promises, he sounds dedicated to keeping it as faithful to to comic as possible. He intends on the uncut DVD to be over 3 hours long. Thats a future christmas present for me to me next year.
Paragon
11-14-2008, 02:01 PM
This is my most anticipated movie for 2009.
As of today mine as well.
My friend told me about this movie but i never paid much attention but after seeing the trailers i'm definitely going to be reading into this movie and keeping an eye out on the development.
Read the comic if you can, its a really interesting read. There's a reason its regarded one of the best literary works of the past century, even though its a graphic novel. Rorschach is an amazing character. (Note sig)
Paragon
11-14-2008, 02:11 PM
Read the comic if you can, its a really interesting read. There's a reason its regarded one of the best literary works of the past century, even though its a graphic novel. Rorschach is an amazing character. (Note sig)
I'll definitely be browsing through the net for it. I need something to read from time to time anyway. I only just noticed your sig was the main character, lol.
Nah he's not really the main character. Nite Owl fills that role better.
Rorschach is the one that gets the "good guys" to do something, since he's the only one who thinks there's something up at the start.
The blue guy, Dr Manhatten is a really interesting character too. He's the only one with actual abilities. He's basically omnipotent...
Paragon
11-14-2008, 03:12 PM
Nah he's not really the main character. Nite Owl fills that role better.
Rorschach is the one that gets the "good guys" to do something, since he's the only one who thinks there's something up at the start.
The blue guy, Dr Manhatten is a really interesting character too. He's the only one with actual abilities. He's basically omnipotent...
Downloading the comics now. :cool: Dr. Manhatten reminded me of The Silver Surfer for some reason the moment i saw him, lol.
The movie it's a must
I should start saving money lol
crisis point
11-14-2008, 04:01 PM
Looks awesome, had a friend tell me about this ages ago and I'd never hard of it, but now can't wait - ages til the films release though!
*also is the guy in the trailer the dad from supernatural?
Dogen
11-18-2008, 12:12 AM
^^ yeah he is playing The Comedian... Watchmen FTW!!
Skirr
12-11-2008, 11:05 AM
New trailer kicks arse.
ShadySovereign
12-24-2008, 11:27 PM
Can't wait to see this movie. Hopefully it lives up to the comic book's legendary status :cool:
chinaman1472
12-24-2008, 11:50 PM
Hopefully the douchebags at Fox don't delay release since they technically own the rights for it.
crisis point
12-25-2008, 03:55 PM
Hopefully the douchebags at Fox don't delay release since they technically own the rights for it.
Oh they had better not, this is set to come out in june, I want to go see it for my birthday. I read the graphic novel - SMAZING!!! would reccommend to anyone who enjoys depth and well written storyline and isn't afraid of gritty material.
YEEEEEEES
It's on motherfuckers,March 6 2009!
Only 3 weeks till the premier of this year's best movie,imo
Skirr
02-10-2009, 10:46 AM
YEEEEEEES
It's on motherfuckers,March 6 2009!
Only 3 weeks till the premier of this year's best movie
Fixed.
metalsoup111
02-10-2009, 12:12 PM
It's going to be bad as fuck. I'm totally stoked...
MissTaken
02-10-2009, 10:09 PM
It looks pretty badass.
I don't think it's even possible to make this movie fail. The fact that it's Watchmen alone should take it to the top of the charts.
chinaman1472
02-11-2009, 01:19 PM
Oh they could make this movie fail if they butchered it like they did X-Men 3 and Spider-Man 3, or Batman Forever and Batman And Robin, I could go on...
It's a great comic.
It kind of annoys that they changed the ending, since there were other aspects beyond the "notion of an alien attack" in the comic, like his pet, etc.
Skirr
02-11-2009, 01:25 PM
Oh they could make this movie fail if they butchered it like they did X-Men 3 and Spider-Man 3, or Batman Forever and Batman And Robin, I could go on...
It's a great comic.
It kind of annoys that they changed the ending, since there were other aspects beyond the "notion of an alien attack" in the comic, like his pet, etc.
I found it very annoying as well, but I think it does the same basic job. And to be honest,
The big fuckin' alien was the weirdest and most out of place set piece in the comic.
Ren_Sk8rgurl
02-11-2009, 06:37 PM
^^pretty anxious with this film, but agree, those films were just horrible, especially Spiderman 3 and Xmen 3. But I'd be seriously disappointed if this film fails to deliver.
Skirr
02-12-2009, 12:13 AM
But Spiderman 3 and X-Men 3 weren't working from an issue of the comics, just the characters from the comics.
But Watchmen is like a book adaptation, they can't do much different from it.
^
Wanted, I Am Legend etc. It's pretty easy to claim to make a book adaptation and just do one in name alone.
I have good faith that this will be a loyal adaptation, but there will be pet peeve changes and omissions that might piss off the hardcore fans.
Skirr
02-12-2009, 07:46 AM
I dunno. I think what the main differences between graphic novel and film are gunna be all the little things (damn that's pretty oxymoronic), but like a comic can have a different small very difficult to notice things in every panel that you can go back and look at in detail whenever you want. A film just keeps rolling. That's where the Watchmen movie will lack dept that the comic had.
chinaman1472
02-13-2009, 12:05 AM
Everything looks pretty panel for scene so far from what I've seen. He's doing it like he did in 300 and Frank Miller doing it in Sin City.
I think the only real possible downfall is just cramming everything in the time frame without rushing scenes.
Sweeney Todd
02-13-2009, 11:56 AM
the teaser bored me. this movie will tank
Skirr
02-13-2009, 12:03 PM
Someone ban this troll. >.>
Sweeney Todd
02-16-2009, 09:29 AM
Someone ban this troll. >.>
That doesnt change the fact that the teaser bored me and the movie will tank.
redfable
02-24-2009, 12:03 PM
I cantwait for the movie to come out i think it looks crazy good
I can't freaking wait
2,5 days left,I think I'm gonna buy the tickets first thing tomorrow lol
Skirr
03-03-2009, 02:29 PM
Aw man. I've been watching lots of trailers, lots of interviews and shit and it spoils one of the major twists! I've heard it twice, once in two separate interviews. Ah well. Interviews are usually spoiler-filled I suppose.
Paragon
03-03-2009, 02:41 PM
Should be watching this on Saturday if all goes to plan. Can't wait!!!
chinaman1472
03-04-2009, 03:17 PM
I'm ready to IMAX the shit out of this movie on Friday.
Mithrandir
03-04-2009, 03:44 PM
Also seeing it on Friday (tomorrow), can't wait.
Ren_Sk8rgurl
03-04-2009, 07:47 PM
I'm with you chinaman, already have my ticket, seeing this shit in IMAX Friday too
FUUUUUUUUU
it's released on next thursday here T_T
flix02
03-05-2009, 07:17 PM
damn that sucks meta....well atleast by then you should if it a EPIC movie like i think or not...
metalsoup111
03-06-2009, 08:36 AM
Anybody seen it, yet...?
Skirr
03-06-2009, 01:54 PM
I will have on Sunday hopefully!
chinaman1472
03-07-2009, 11:58 AM
I enjoyed it. Minor changes due to the time constraint (I'm really excited to see the uncut DVD version). Some parts can be a bit slow, and I didn't like who they casted for Ozymandis, but overall it was enjoyable and I liked it.
I was very surprised how well they changed the ending yet kept the same concept and message.
fourwalls
03-08-2009, 03:54 PM
I have... It's great. I recommend it. Not your typical action film I think. It's not even pure action, more of story based and has a lot of psychological components in it. The characters are all very much interesting.
NoxieDC
03-08-2009, 07:03 PM
Definitely worth seeing.
Sympathy
03-08-2009, 08:03 PM
I saw it and I thought it kicked ass. The action was amazing and the stories for each of the characters played out well IMO. Especially Rorschach.
Hariberu
03-09-2009, 01:16 AM
I just saw it!! They cut out some background stories which I was a little disappointed in, but overall I thought the movie was awesome. It was quite impressive how most scenes played out exactly like it did the comic panel by panel. They kept true the original story a lot. Even though they didn't edit "tales of the black freighter" in they showed a quick flash of the the boy and comic book guy at the end.
I did notice that some of my friends who hadn't read the comic before hand were kinda confused, like they didn't understand everyone's motives and such.
arthur11
03-09-2009, 02:24 AM
Anyonelse feel they made Viedt out to be a traditional villain..
along with Manhatten.....
Which complete misses the point in that, yes killing is wrong, but its all about the utilitarianism view that the greater good surpasses the individual moral princples, which superheroes strive on, it was ment to leave you thinking, was that right? can heroes really exist based on the typical outlook? Was Veidt the ultimate hero? Was the coldwar the real enemy? Were they nothing but Watchmen who tidy and not heroes blahblahblah... I feel they made a line between good and bad so that an audience would go happy...
RipVanRagnarok
03-09-2009, 09:07 AM
They should've cast Selma Blair for Silver Spectre. She's way sexier, imo.
Skirr
03-09-2009, 09:20 AM
It doesn't matter who's sexier, man. It's who can play their roles. And from the trailers that chick looks perfect for it.
RipVanRagnarok
03-09-2009, 09:25 AM
Well, aesthetically, I like Blair as Spectre. She could've pulled off the role as well.
chinaman1472
03-09-2009, 11:09 AM
Anyonelse feel they made Viedt out to be a traditional villain..
I think they just failed on casting Viedt. He couldn't pull him off and he certainly wasn't big enough. To me, that's what really brought the movie down.
Hariberu
03-09-2009, 03:55 PM
They should've cast Selma Blair for Silver Spectre. She's way sexier, imo.
Kidding right? She's such a shitty actress. Besides she doesn't really look like Laurie from the comic at all. Malin Akerman did a great job.
Also kudos to Jeffrey Dean Morgan, who knew the guy who played Denny off Grey's Anatomy would make such a kickass Comedian. (So freaking hott :love:)
I bought the tickets at last!
Friday evening I'll be the one who watches the Watchmen lol
MissTaken
03-11-2009, 11:31 AM
I'm so seeing this movie!
Sweeney Todd
03-11-2009, 06:21 PM
n00bs lol. Easy to please.
The movie was a disappointment box office wise.
As i ve already told you kids! It's gonna disappoint but not flop. Movies of this genre "usually" dont flop.
Cheeziest movie of 2009! lol
It was a good adaptation, they kept in everything they could. Though I'd say it's pretty confusing at times for those who didn't read the comic...
I hope they put in a few more of the sideplots (like the newspaper guy) into the extended version, it really added to the drama of the ending.
@Arthur I don't think they made him out to be too bad. He didn't look right... at all. I was pretty pissed off at the casting when I saw the trailers, but he played the part well. Though they hinted at the twist a bit too much in the scene in the office before the assassination I thought.
As for the ending change... It's a good alternitive but too many holes. In real life the Russians would have taken the oppertunity to attack the US while their greatest weapon backfired on them. The comic's ending had more incentive for the "world united for a common cause" result I thought. Still though, not too bad a job.
TokyoRacer
03-13-2009, 06:28 AM
The movie ending change was dumb. I was looking forward to seeing that giant exploding squid, damn it.
Revell
03-13-2009, 11:34 AM
It was a great movie, I enjoyed it. Definitely not your typical action flick, which I think is great. Lots of detail and even though I didn't read the comic, the storyline was good. I recommend it.
Viron
03-13-2009, 11:44 AM
It's for people who don't want to read the graphic novel, like me. I liked it, but I kinda wish rorschach didn't get his ass kicked by the cops and by Adrian.
All of them got their asses kicked by Ozymandias cept Dr.Manhattan
I must say I was not thrilled by the movie,but I enjoyed it
Going to d/l as well
Btw,Rorschach's the man
pumpkin13
03-13-2009, 06:02 PM
Rorschach is bitching, i have to admit i didn't like him dying. I would have thought Nite Owl would have made use of the various bits of gadgetry we saw in his cabinet against Ozzy.
Has anyone seen Oldboy? There was just something about that prison fight scene with Spectre and Nite Owl pwning the inmates that was very remeniscant of the corridor scene in Oldboy... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxZenU-R84U
Yeah they changed the ending, but i think ultimately the movie ending perhaps even works better. In the graphic novel, Dr Manhatten leaving seems kinda sudden random and (excuse the pun) out of the blue, but the ending they present in the movie actually gives Manhatten a reason to leave.
Generally speaking I really enjoyed it, although perhaps a little less than I thought i was going to. Next up, going to see that abomination that is DB: Evolution just for the lulz.
ginchan
03-14-2009, 09:18 AM
I thought Rorschach was the only thing holding the film together. They played it like it was such a shock that the Comedian was Spectre's dad, but i thought that was pretty obvious fairly early on.
I can't really put my finger on why exactly, but the plot seemed rather lacking. Put that together with the multitude of scenese of Manhattan and his shiny, blue dong, and I think I would have passed seeing the movie in the theatres.
http://pixelatedgeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/watchmen.png
TokyoRacer
03-14-2009, 12:32 PM
That's very true, DK. Apparently a big blue dong was the only thing worth mentioning in that movie.
ginchan
03-14-2009, 07:42 PM
That's very true, DK. Apparently a big blue dong was the only thing worth mentioning in that movie.
i think you're right.
i'm pretty sure most of the women at the theatre i saw it at were thinking something along the lines of 'hmm, that reminds me of the one i have stuffed in my dresser'
ninski
03-14-2009, 09:04 PM
yeah... i mean...it was just hanging there...i think it winked at me!!!!!! O_O
Aftershock
03-15-2009, 03:24 AM
I must say I was not thrilled by the movie,but I enjoyed it
Going to d/l as well
Btw,Rorschach's the man
Yeah, Rorschach was great, the ending with him sucks hard.
fakeobsession
03-15-2009, 05:40 AM
hmm,it was interesting, good music background.
I enjoyed it as well.
Though there were some scenes I didn't really like.
The end was a surprise for me.At least something that you don't always see in movies.
Paulio
03-15-2009, 01:11 PM
Pretty decent film, a little too long to be sitting in a cinema but the fight scenes were really well done.
I thought some of the songs used at parts didn't really fit.
I enjoyed it though.
Yeah the choices+timing for the music was a bit off at times. Very far off at others...
The Hallelujah during the sex scene made it more comedic than anything...
MicroHustler
03-20-2009, 03:42 PM
I thought the soundtrack for this movie was the hands down best part about it. Unless a sweet indy film comes out this year with a lot of sentimental favorites of songs, I don't see how this is not the soundtrack of the year for me.
The movie was good, not great but good. I am pretty glad I went and saw it and hey I got my moneys worth with the length of it.
Yeah the choices+timing for the music was a bit off at times. Very far off at others...
The Hallelujah during the sex scene made it more comedic than anything...
LOL
That scene made the whole room burst out laughing
I was trying to be serious and all,but I couldn't since my friends where all laughing out loud
UraharaX
03-27-2009, 05:19 AM
i thought it was a waste of time in my opinion i prefer not to watch scenes that involve blue wang lol i went and saw it even after deciding from the trailer i wouldnt like it cool concept though
Just saw it. Honestly, I tried to be open minded but I didn't enjoy it at all. My dad says it's the worst movie he's ever seen. I dunno, I did NOT read the comic so maybe I'm just missing something huge but now I have zero incentive to read it. I thought it was just silly, dumb, etc. A big miss for me. Parts were predictable, the music choices just seemed completely weird, and I didn't feel a connection for any of the characters. And it seemed like it was trying too hard to be "graphic".
I don't hope to disappoint any of you fans, as this is just one person's opinion. I don't think I "didn't get it" or "need to watch it again", and it's a shame because I like superheroes. Meh, win some lose some. Visually it was pretty cool, though.
Skirr
03-29-2009, 01:12 AM
Just saw it. Honestly, I tried to be open minded but I didn't enjoy it at all. My dad says it's the worst movie he's ever seen. I dunno, I did NOT read the comic so maybe I'm just missing something huge but now I have zero incentive to read it. I thought it was just silly, dumb, etc. A big miss for me. Parts were predictable, the music choices just seemed completely weird, and I didn't feel a connection for any of the characters. And it seemed like it was trying too hard to be "graphic".
I don't hope to disappoint any of you fans, as this is just one person's opinion. I don't think I "didn't get it" or "need to watch it again", and it's a shame because I like superheroes. Meh, win some lose some. Visually it was pretty cool, though.
Having read the comic and enjoyed the movie... I still agree with Wras. The characters seemed very difficult to relate to. They played the parts well and I related to them perfectly, but ONLY because I KNEW them from the comic. Like Rorschach's backstory... half of it was in the opening title sequence... NO ONE is going to link those.
I loved the movie, but for people looking to be dazzled, they're not. It's basically taking some of the best moments from the comic and putting them onscreen.
As for the music... once I got used to it it was fine. I got what they were TRYING to do, like irony or whatever. But the trailer promised big awesome white-knuckle pace. Aznd the sorta sixties hippie music really slowed everything down.
I didn't think it was trying to be too graphic. It was just taking a look at violence that had no agenda. I think movies like Saw are trying to be too graphic because they stylize it and give the violence a meaning, whereas in Watchmen (movie and comic) it's just there, it's like a fact of the nature of the Watchmen world.
Overall I enjoyed it a hell of a lot. It may even grace my top movie list. But it wasn't the full Watchmen. It was just the best of bits with actors. Nothing relateable, nothing mildly as in depth as the comic unfortunately.
They played the parts well and I related to them perfectly, but ONLY because I KNEW them from the comic. Like Rorschach's backstory... half of it was in the opening title sequence... NO ONE is going to link those.
Agreed. In terms of actual acting I thought it was fine, but the Comedian was the only one I so much as started to connect with at all. Rorshach was cool but he never explained his fucked up self enough. We got a little bit of backstory but when Dan (forget his superhero name) was like "Damn man who do you think you are?" I was like 'yeah! fucking idiot'. Also, EVERYONE in this movie was an asshole and did whatever the fuck they want. Maybe that was the point but I didn't like that at all.
I loved the movie, but for people looking to be dazzled, they're not. It's basically taking some of the best moments from the comic and putting them onscreen.
As for the music... once I got used to it it was fine. I got what they were TRYING to do, like irony or whatever. But the trailer promised big awesome white-knuckle pace. Aznd the sorta sixties hippie music really slowed everything down.
The music during the (overly long) opening thing, I didn't mind. Hallelujah, All Along the Watchtower, and pretty much everything else just felt out of place and like DK said, it wasn't just the placement, but the timing.
For example, when AATW said "two riders were approachin'" then it showed Dan and Rorsh approaching the fortress thing in antarctica, I was like 'mehhh'
I didn't think it was trying to be too graphic. It was just taking a look at violence that had no agenda. I think movies like Saw are trying to be too graphic because they stylize it and give the violence a meaning, whereas in Watchmen (movie and comic) it's just there, it's like a fact of the nature of the Watchmen world.
Sure, I'll give you that, but I mean with all of the other areas of the movie sort of failing, it gives a drier, more bland feel to the violence. Shit like the fact that the blue man didn't have any pants was fine with me because I was able to avert my eyes for a while >.>, but it was almost a little too disturbing. Again, this is just me.
Overall I enjoyed it a hell of a lot. It may even grace my top movie list. But it wasn't the full Watchmen. It was just the best of bits with actors. Nothing relateable, nothing mildly as in depth as the comic unfortunately.
And as stated I shall not read the comic. My dad says this movie will go down as one of/ the worst in history, but I think it's going to be forgettable (much like 300) in time.
I'm 100% sure there was a great story hiding somewhere in there; my dad even agreed to that, that it could have been amazing, but it was poor execution across the bar.
Skirr
03-29-2009, 06:50 AM
Yeah. I know what you mean about everyone seeming like an asshole. In the comic they have like a few hundred pages to go into every single character's motivations and backstory.
To truly get Watchmen it shoulda been like six one-hour epi-movies or movie-sodes.. There's a lot of the comic where you go "damn I gotta stop reading for a while and let this shit sink in" which is why the movie version was probably destined for box office failure. (Apparently it got the horror opening... which isn't cool.)
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