Ryu vs Unreleased Grimmjow

[Ajpinecrest2]

Grimmjow has his flying disabled for the fight.
Ryu from Street Fighters.
Who wins?

[I8ASaleen]

Grimm, a sword and cero FTW.

[Fornicaras]

Ryu just because Hadoken pwns.

[Ajpinecrest2]

Just for the record.
Ryu is a bullet timer and his Hadoken destroyed a rather large building, and vaporized a machine designed to withstand it.

[excptas]

Grimmjow i believe he is overall faster and phsically stronger than ryu even in base form.

[Ajpinecrest2]

Like I said, Ryu was easily capable of dodging bullets, so Grimmjow's speed advantage is virtually nonexistent.
As for a strength advantage, Ryu is capable of fighting evenly with Akuma, and Akuma was able to sink an Island with a single punch.

[justin43]

It should be obviously that Grimmjow wins this. On all the threads I seen, you have betted against bleach characters. I think you hate bleach. One cero equals Ryu's strongest attack. Releasing would be overkill.

[Ajpinecrest2]

Well actually, Bleach follows the Method of Test, it is just basically the manga that I use to test characters I am uncertain about, I do not hate Bleach, I am simply trying to make you all understand its place, since I have seen many of you suggest that Bleach characters are above One Piece characters and such.
I wouldn't make a thread against Bleach knowing it was a full on stomp.
However, since you seem to think that Grimmjow wins, can you show me when Grimmjow destroyed an Island with a punch?
Or any of his techniques for that matter?
I know releasing is overkill which is why I made it unreleased Grimmjow for the sake of fairness, read the title.

[excptas]

you cant really use feats done by akuma to prove ryu equal in strength to gj. dodging bullets isnt very impressive in terms of bleach speed seeing as they regularly move at speeds exceeding that of which bullets travel.

[Ajpinecrest2]

Uhmm, what is your basis for thinking Bleach characters regularly move faster than bullets?
Bullets are supersonic just like Bleach characters.
And since Ryu went to fight Akuma and won according to the storyline, I would think we can safely assume Ryu was at least as strong as Akuma.

[chinaman1472]

you cant really use feats done by akuma to prove ryu equal in strength to gj. dodging bullets isnt very impressive in terms of bleach speed seeing as they regularly move at speeds exceeding that of which bullets travel.

Akuma has near teleportation speeds and able to destroy an island with a single punch. There's no way Ryu can win if he can't at the very least react to near teleportation speeds, or take hits from a punch that can sink island.

[CriminalBaby]

^Thread over

[k1kris]

okay ajpine watch very first fight between ichigo and grim, grim breaks sound barrier twice without using sonido(faster version of shunpo for noobs) and a bullet goes about 3000 ft a sec but it cant change direction like gj can

[Ajpinecrest2]

okay ajpine watch very first fight between ichigo and grim, grim breaks sound barrier twice without using sonido(faster version of shunpo for noobs) and a bullet goes about 3000 ft a sec but it cant change direction like gj can

I don't watch the anime, show me the manga scans so I can disprove it.

[chinaman1472]

okay ajpine watch very first fight between ichigo and grim, grim breaks sound barrier twice without using sonido(faster version of shunpo for noobs) and a bullet goes about 3000 ft a sec but it cant change direction like gj can

Too bad teleportation is faster. Ryu was able to defeat Akuma who can essentially teleport and split an island with a single punch. GJ has yet to show any ability that can split an island in half or move at teleportation speed. He may be breaking the sound barrier, but teleporting > breaking the sound barrier.

[k1kris]

okay that was with out sonido i went back and rewatched and looked at manga myself broke sound barrier 3 times thats over 3500 ft per second top then with sonido which multiplies speed by another 5 to 10 times 17500ft a sec to 35000ft a sec im pretty sure that he could match speed then(u did not say he couldnt release) he releases making him about another 10 time faster so any where between 175000ft a sec to 350000ft a sec the point is there really isnt a speed difference in the end so to me it depends on spec. abilities strength skill and the will to actually win

[Ajpinecrest2]

okay that was with out sonido i went back and rewatched and looked at manga myself broke sound barrier 3 times thats over 3500 ft per second top then with sonido which multiplies speed by another 5 to 10 times 17500ft a sec to 35000ft a sec im pretty sure that he could match speed then(u did not say he couldnt release) he releases making him about another 10 time faster so any where between 175000ft a sec to 350000ft a sec the point is there really isnt a speed difference in the end so to me it depends on spec. abilities strength skill and the will to actually win

I don't even need to say anything about your post aside from this.
You just said, that Grimmjow could go past Mach 300 released, I hope you realize how stupid that was.
Also that doesn't change the fact that Teleportation > Mach 300

[arthur11]

Grim could just fly really high and cero ryu from the skies...

[chinaman1472]

He can throw fireballs too.

[Rocket]

Grimm is grounded for this fight though.
If Ryu can dodge bullets, he can dodge Grimm.
Akuma reveals that Ryu possesses the "evil intent" or "Satsui no Hadou" within him, the same power Akuma uses. So Akuma and Ryu are about par for the course as far as abilities go.

[zZHasteZz]

Ima saw gj cause cero.

[Ajpinecrest2]

Hadoken > Cero.

[NAM1011]

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/280/03/
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/280/04/

You can tell from these pages that Ichigo is looking up at GJ. GJ was standing on a huge pillar. He is in front of Ichigo and then a split second later s next to him trying to slash him. This can be considered some form of teleportation based on speed. If Akuma is teleporting from Asia to North America, then yes his speed is better. However, if this is the type of teleportation he shows then an unreleased GJ shows that he matches it. In his released form, he is much faster.

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/283/02/

This link shows a released GJ destroying a huge pillar. His nonchalant attitude at this point in the fight could lead one to believe that this was only speck of his power. I think based on this he can destroy an island.

[Revell]

I hope you guys know this is UNRELEASED Grimmjow, as stated in the thread title and I believe in the OP AND at the bottom of the first page. I don't know why you guys are even putting released Grimmjow into this fight. That one speed feat does not seem like teleportation to me, Grimmjow is moving as fast as being able to make a blurred image of himself back there, but yet Ichigo is still able to sense it and react. I believe teleportation is faster than that, and if Ryu is able to move at those speeds, along with him defeating Akuma who cut a damn island in half, I'd have to say Ryu wins.

[NAM1011]

I forgot that it was unreleased GJ. Why cut GJs power in half to fight a fully powered Ryu. Let GJ release and kick his ass.

[Revell]

Well because then with all of the feats that released Grimm has done, he would rape Ryu. Ryu can't fly and generate city-busting energy claw things like released Grimm, or at least to my knowledge. Cutting Grimm's power is only fair.

[NAM1011]

Not if it puts him below the level of the character he is fighting.

[Revell]

Then you'd rather have the other character's level below Grimmjow's? I don't think it's fair either way, but Grimmjow could put up a fight unreleased as well, instead of curb-stomping Ryu in released form and making it a stupid fight.

[NAM1011]

Haha I know. I just want GJ to stomp him thats all.

[k1kris]

okay he said that only flight is disabled for one thing so even unrealesed ajpine he is just fast or a little lower then teleport speed when he uses sonido and his base speed so saying that ryu can dodge when all gj has to do is cero from most angles when he gets the chance speed here is not to different by wat ive seen and read so my vote is still on gj

[Ajpinecrest2]

okay he said that only flight is disabled for one thing so even unrealesed ajpine he is just fast or a little lower then teleport speed when he uses sonido and his base speed so saying that ryu can dodge when all gj has to do is cero from most angles when he gets the chance speed here is not to different by wat ive seen and read so my vote is still on gj

Bullshit.
Teleportation is instantaneous.
Unreleased Grimmjow's Sonido is around Mach 1.

[chinaman1472]

Akuma can withstand the pressure at the bottom of the ocean.
Akuma can split an island with a single punch.
Akuma can basically teleport.
Akuma LOST to Ryu.

Even a released GJ couldn't beat Ryu.

[NAM1011]

Correction...haha...GJ wins cuz Ryu will not even know he is there. GJ is an arrancar. Humans cannot see shinigami, arrancar, or anything of that nature. With this said, stealth attack GJ wins.

[chinaman1472]

Correction...haha...GJ wins cuz Ryu will not even know he is there. GJ is an arrancar. Humans cannot see shinigami, arrancar, or anything of that nature. With this said, stealth attack GJ wins.

There is no amount of face palm on the internet that I can show for this statement.

[Fornicaras]

Correction...haha...GJ wins cuz Ryu will not even know he is there. GJ is an arrancar. Humans cannot see shinigami, arrancar, or anything of that nature. With this said, stealth attack GJ wins.

Wow, the stupidity of this post is amazing.

[Revell]

Yeah.. why would you even put a fight like this up if the combatants weren't said to be both psychically materialized..? I know nobody said it, but it's only logical. The fact that Grimmjow is an arrancar and a spirit or whatever is totally irrelevant, no one would make a battle and not conclude both people are physical forms. I mean.. come on. Ryu wins.

[NAM1011]

lol obviously you people do not know a facetious comment when you see one. It was a comment that while true was just said in jest.

[Ajpinecrest2]

It was in no way, shape, or form true.

[Revell]

It's hard to know whether someone's joking or being serious(ly retarded) over the intrawebz my friend. =]

[NAM1011]

The haha should have given it away at the beginning of my comment. I guess I should have added a lol or something to emphasize it. haha.

Now, I am not 100 percent familiar with everything Street Fighter, but can they see spirits, Ajp?

[Ajpinecrest2]

Ryu, Ken, Akuma, and their unnamed Master can thanks to Chi.
Yes, they have used it to see spirits before.

[NAM1011]

OKay, just wanted to know whether that was true or not. Thanks.

[arthur11]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y263/stacey1234818/Grimmjow-1.gif
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Can ryu sustain attacks like this? Would he shatter against the concrete due to the speed and strength of the attack....? And through this thread are you not saying he is also on par with ichigo here in speed and strength?

[sean_sobes]

grimmjow.
basically because street fighter is gay

[Fornicaras]

grimmjow.
basically because street fighter is gay

Wow, thank you for your totally logical & well thought out response. The evidence supporting your case is staggering.

Get the fuck out.

[Darkwolf425]

One question I got is Grimmjow using a sword or not in this fight cause I have yet to see Ryu block a sword :x

[Revell]

Erm. well if Ryu can defeat a guy who destroyed an island with I'm guessing his fist? He should be able to do something close to that as well. I don't think a sword would really phase him.. not to mention, with his blinding speeds the sword wouldn't even touch him in the first place.

[chinaman1472]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y263/stacey1234818/Grimmjow-1.gif
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Can ryu sustain attacks like this? Would he shatter against the concrete due to the speed and strength of the attack....? And through this thread are you not saying he is also on par with ichigo here in speed and strength?

Island busting attacks > Concrete

The sword however does post a small threat, but he far surpasses Ichigo when it comes to strength and has far greater reaction speed than Ichigo. Akuma can practically teleport and Ryu defeated Akuma.

[CriminalBaby]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y263/stacey1234818/Grimmjow-1.gif
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Can ryu sustain attacks like this? Would he shatter against the concrete due to the speed and strength of the attack....? And through this thread are you not saying he is also on par with ichigo here in speed and strength?

Wow.. i hope this post was sarcastic!

Do you wanna say that this attack is anywhere near the league of Akuma's feats?

[Viva]

grimmjaw

[Fornicaras]

grimmjaw

Did you even bother reading the thread?

[Vic]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y263/stacey1234818/Grimmjow-1.gif
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Can ryu sustain attacks like this? Would he shatter against the concrete due to the speed and strength of the attack....? And through this thread are you not saying he is also on par with ichigo here in speed and strength?

1. This never happened in Bleach, and by Bleach I mean KT's manga.
2. Uh yes he can, perhaps you should do some research on Ryu. He isnt DB material, but yeah he can be kicked through a building by a Bleach character and be fine.

I never really saw GJ do anything impressive while unreleased, he launched a cero, he displayed a lot of durability when he tanked Ichigo's GT's, but uh..offensively I saw nothing that displayed he was as skilled as Ryu.

[chinaman1472]

^ word.

When most people consider characters that are predominately in a video game, they tend to think of playing time feats rather than story feats. Considering 99.9% of Ryu's career is spent being controlled, I can see why people would think Ryu would get curb stomped. Unfortunately, people don't realize play time is meant to be balanced and not an actual representation of the character.