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Fatstogey
02-03-2009, 08:04 AM
I dont really no what to start the thread with but i wanna discuss it. LOL

I myself am more of a speceist. I hate those damn lizards. lol

Actually i think race should be forgotten. I think its peoples hate of racists that fuels the hatred of racism to begin with.

i.e. if you hate racists your no different from them. Just for a reason you consider to be greater than theirs. But at the end of the day your both haters.

If you wanna be racists than be racists. I dont hate you for it. I think your a fool but who isnt a fool these days.

Razvan_Asakura
02-03-2009, 08:08 AM
I for one have friends , real life friends from all around the world . Either their afro-american/white/asian/african ... doesn't matter . I don't really understand this racism shit . Why be one ? Makes no sense . Instead of hating, why not try to be friends with everyone . It's good for business . :D

octocheese
02-03-2009, 08:27 AM
I remember when I was little, maybe first or second grade, and I had a best friend who lived down the street. She was great and we played all the time. Then I noticed/picked up on that something was different about here. Not from her but from my parents and other kids. Her mom was white and her dad was black. To me there was (and still is) absolutely nothing wrong with it. But that's how I became aware of racism, from my elders and peers. Deep down I still haven't forgiven them because before that I was truely innocent and color blind.

NAM1011
02-03-2009, 09:06 AM
Racism is born of ignorance and fear. Ignorance for not trying to know what this different person is like and the fear to try to understand them and their culture. Racism also breeds hate and misunderstanding. Unfortunately, there will always be racism.

lonelyfighterx
02-03-2009, 11:14 AM
Racism is the most stupid concept for a normal human being in this modern era.

The concept is like this, "I hate him/her because he's/she's black/white/Indian/anything" When people said that, It makes me like.... "Huh? WTF? It's not like they asked to be black/white/Indian..."

Same goes to people who discriminate disabled person. It's wrong and a normal human that can think logically should never do such things.

-But I do agree women should be treated differently. No, I not saying women is inferior than men. From my point of view, they are equal to men. The main reason why they should be treated differently, from my point of view is women are special. So, we need to treat them in a special way. We can't treat them as a men. That's why we didn't share public toilet with them! By the way, if you don't understand what I'm trying to say, just send a private message to me for further explanation.-

pumpkin13
02-03-2009, 11:33 AM
I've got a couple of asian friends, like chino-malaysian but i don't have any black friends in my primary social circle, most of us are white upper-middle class british fairly standard run of the mill stuff. I guess that's just my upbringing. But damn I wish I did have some black friends. Maybe I just feel bad that in this day and age my social group is pretty much all upper middle class white kids..., but then the uni that i go to and the place its situated in is very Rah, apart from the chinese international students.

As for the "being scared of them because they look different" it's really no good reason, you're neighbour looks different to you, might have the same skin colour but they still look different, are you scared of them? I guess the same thing kind of happens even within the caucasian race, I mean, apparently (and i by no means condone this) brunettes are boring, blondes are dumb, and gingers get loads of stick for no apparent reason at all, other than being ginger. Fat people get stick for being fat, thin people get stick for being thin etc, people need to stop basing their opinions of other people on aesthetic appearences and go deeper, see what the person is actually like.

So fair enough, if the dude is a hardcore gangster, selling A-class drugs to 10 year olds on the street, pimping girls pushed into a prostitution ring and beating up on them, walking around with his jeans round his knees and his boxers hanging out packing heat and a gold tooth, yeah hate the fucker, but not because his skin is a different colour from you.

ms07gtr
02-03-2009, 11:56 AM
This is a concept that will always exist because the human race is stupid and only getting stupider. If everyone in the world had the same skin tone we would just pick some other irrelavant difference to use for a hate outlet. IE: Religion, culture, hair color, eye color, language, height, weight, sex, ect, ect, ect...

It also seems to go in cycles. Group A hates group B for some wrong doing and, does something wrong to Group B. Group B who didnt hate group A now hates Group A for what they did. Group A has lost the hate for group B but group B decides to get back at group A for the past wrong. Group B does wrong to group A, and the cycle repeats forever. You can see this in action world wide.

Exploits
02-03-2009, 12:20 PM
Racists do annoy me, but what annoys me more are people who misunderstand what is or isn't racism, or what racism itself is to start. I've had a terrible experience with this that I'll outline;

When I was in Grade 8, I had one black person in my circle of friends. We weren't "buddy buddy", or especially close, but we were still friends, and we could talk. Part of the reason I didn't like the guy much is because, in all honesty, he was a complete idiot. I don't mean like the bad-at-math idiot, I mean the wouldn't-be-able-to-find-his-own-ass-from-his-elbow idiot, who can't put things together for himself. He just listens to what everyone else has to say, and agrees with it, and spreads that information for himself. Essentially, he's a sheep (Dare I say a black sheep, hurhurhur).

Anyway, for some reason, this kept picking a bone with me, and eventually, I outright just said "Dear God, you're an idiot aren't you." His instant response was (I am quoting) "What was that, cracker?". The little respect I had left for him instantly disappeared. I called him an idiot again, and he left, pretty damn angry. Next class, I walk in, the teacher pulls me aside, and tells me I'm to go to the office. I have no idea why, but I figure, what the hell, better settle the matter. When I get down there, the principal tells me that I'm being handed a one week suspension for racism. When I ask her why, she says "According to one student, you believe all African-people are idiots".

Never have I punched out a double-pane window before, and probably won't again. I wasn't given any debate or second-chance, I was simply instantly given a suspension and sent home, and becaue of it, missed three Exams and failed English.

The clear issue is the fact that I didn't call him an idiot just because he was black; I called him an idiot because he was a dumb mother fucker. Him having done what he did just proved the point more.

lonelyfighterx
02-03-2009, 12:41 PM
Oh wow... my case is almost the same, except I got away with warnings. Similar to you, but the guy is a Chinese. He's a kind that always being an idiot plus, doing teasing and insulting people as a hobby! On that day, he really said something that really sensitive to me, I wouldn't talk what is that, but the point is it's non-racial things, is just something really sensitive to me. So, I replied by calling him 'pig'. Then, next thing I know, a chair that I'm holding, almost fly across the classroom. Luckily a teacher passed by, stop the fight, and drag both of us to the principal office. Some 'eyewitnesses' said, "He (refer to me...) said Chinese are pigs". It happen when I was 16, at the time that I was able to defend myself properly. So, I got away with a warning. Phew, that was close one indeed. If my luck doesn't get better at the moment, I've might end-up being totally expelled from the school.

metalsoup111
02-03-2009, 12:50 PM
“Racism is man's gravest threat to man - the maximum of hatred for a minimum of reason.” -Abraham J. Heschel

“Racism is a refuge for the ignorant. It seeks to divide and to destroy. It is the enemy of freedom, and deserves to be met head-on and stamped out.” - Pierre Berton

octocheese
02-03-2009, 01:43 PM
Exploits & lonleyfighterx, I think your stories show how different racism is seen though the different generation and kind of relates to my story I posted earlier. You guys just saw idiots, the adults saw color.

Belial
02-03-2009, 02:10 PM
I can completely understand not liking a particular culture based on personal preference, but lumping in every single further person you meet in that group is ignorant. Further developing a hatred for the supposed group delves into stupidity.

It is a common theme among people to mistake correlation for causation in many more areas than just racism, however. Funny that the root cause of what started racism is still there, it's just the act of being racist is now socially taboo. Most people claiming to not understand racism or look down upon it would be racist themselves themselves if it was still socially acceptable.

TW501
02-03-2009, 02:18 PM
Exploits & lonleyfighterx, I think your stories show how different racism is seen though the different generation and kind of relates to my story I posted earlier. You guys just saw idiots, the adults saw color.

That's a very good point. Perspectives on race definitely change from generation to generation. For most of my youth, I was barely aware of other races. That's not to say they weren't there, I just didn't take note of who was what race. Of course it varies from area to area. I know that (in the United States) there is probably more racial tension in the South and in major cities than in other areas.

Feranor
02-03-2009, 02:30 PM
To me, racism is, for the most part, the same as sexism, homophobia and the likes.

I'll simply quote Janos Audron (Legacy of Kain series): "(On mankind:) They fear what they don't understand; and despise what they fear. But no, i do not hate them."

novae
02-03-2009, 05:54 PM
In Ancient Egypt, there was no such thing as race. I don't think any of the ancient peoples even thought that way, in any case. The concept of race is fairly new (about the time of Henry VIII, I think, or during the time of the Holy Roman Empire before it got renamed Germany). Most of the history of the human race doesn't recognize race.
You do have to admit, though, that along with skin color, race also describes heritage or bone structure just because of the environment our ancestors spent the most of their linages. But in the end, it is still an environmental factor dating back thousands of years, nothing more. Not something to discriminate against.

pumpkin13
02-03-2009, 06:02 PM
I beg to differ with your first paragraph. Moses and his request of the pharoah to let his people go (ie the jews, who were an entire race enslaved) was not just a fictional work. The greeks were at it too, although their "racism" was much broader, basically defined to Greeks and "non-Greeks" also known as barbaroi, hence where we get Barbarian from. And of course there was much racism present in Judea during the time of the roman occupation.

I'm interested as to what line of thought led you to pinpoint the renaissance/post rennaisance as the time when race became a major issue?

Cursed
02-03-2009, 06:19 PM
The only thing that annoys me about racism is when people go insane just because someone makes a little racist remark.

Everyone these days wants the world to be so politically correct that every time someone says something even remotely racist, everyone wants then locked up, shunned, fired, etc.

It's because of this that people skilled in their line of work are fired. A few words here and their won't hurt anyone physically, and at most just piss off the person they directed it at.

Then there's a bunch more stuff about hypocrisy and freedom of speech that I won't go into for fear of creating a tl;dr post.

blunt_smoker_420
02-04-2009, 12:28 PM
It really all depends on your parents, given this is not always true but if the parents are racist so are the children. As long as people just keep there racist thoughts to themselves the world will be a better place but that will never happen just as racism will always exist.

TW501
02-04-2009, 01:21 PM
There are multiple degrees of racism I suppose. For example, while both would be racist, a person who has negative views of black people and believes in stereotypes of them is different from a person who absolutely hates blacks and sees them as subhuman. Both are racist attitudes, but they aren't on the same level.

tsurugi
02-04-2009, 02:20 PM
Everyone is a little racist...deal with it.

octocheese
02-04-2009, 06:22 PM
I actually agree. Cynical but true.

Z498
02-04-2009, 06:48 PM
Racism is a subject that was introduced to me because of my elders. It has occurred to me throughout my life that the people who have spread racism in my life and that have kept it alive are the previous generations. From what I have seen, there are certain notions that they still cling to because they remember the civil rights era. Not saying I am trying to negate in anyway the civil rights era or that racism does not exist because it surely does, I have experienced it. It seems that they are missing the fact that we are in a new era in which racism is not as blunt and out there as much as it was during there time period and you have to look deeper in order to see that it is there.

He's a Mentalist
02-04-2009, 07:05 PM
There are multiple degrees of racism I suppose. For example, while both would be racist, a person who has negative views of black people and believes in stereotypes of them is different from a person who absolutely hates blacks and sees them as subhuman. Both are racist attitudes, but they aren't on the same level.

You are right about that in which I will respond to the comment below

Everyone is a little racist...deal with it.

I disagree. I am a little prejudice but not racist. Those prejudices arise from my social experience with people of a particular culture, or ethnic background that wasn't so great. Over-time, I've learned to attribute problems I have with people to that person, not the collective.

Racism is a subject that was introduced to me because of my elders. It has occurred to me throughout my life that the people who have spread racism in my life and that have kept it alive are the previous generations. From what I have seen, there are certain notions that they still cling to because they remember the civil rights era. Not saying I am trying to negate in anyway the civil rights era or that racism does not exist because it surely does, I have experienced it. It seems that they are missing the fact that we are in a new era in which racism is not as blunt and out there as much as it was during there time period and you have to look deeper in order to see that it is there.Subtle and more quiet racism is deadlier than blunt racism.

novae
02-04-2009, 08:43 PM
I beg to differ with your first paragraph. Moses and his request of the pharoah to let his people go (ie the jews, who were an entire race enslaved) was not just a fictional work. The greeks were at it too, although their "racism" was much broader, basically defined to Greeks and "non-Greeks" also known as barbaroi, hence where we get Barbarian from. And of course there was much racism present in Judea during the time of the roman occupation.

I'm interested as to what line of thought led you to pinpoint the renaissance/post rennaisance as the time when race became a major issue?

I took a History class on Civilization in the Western World last summer. It kinda lead me to this kind of thinking. Actually, slavery wasn't based on race until the Rennaisance when white people thought themselves superior to black people. Otherwise, slaves were people who were defeated in battle or were invaded, or were sold into slavery for various other reasons. It had little to do with race and more to do with territory or opportunity. I can look up the page and the quote in the book I have and post the source, if you want me to.
Also, your bible reference, I have heard contradictory evidence that the word translated as "slavery" in the bible isn't the same hebrew meaning. It means something more like servant, but it doesn't have much to do with slavery. I can't quite remember the word phrase they used. I believe they mentioned this during a show on histroy or discovery where the bible was viewed as a military history. Just how it gets translated I guess.

Craver199103
02-04-2009, 08:56 PM
If I'm being completely honest here, I'm believing that everyone is a little prejudice and judgmental. Some people will judge based off of race but to say everyone is a racist is stretching the dollar a little too far. Unfortunately, as humans we are probably going to live with discrimination as long as we are breathing, there's no way around that, though as you get older you are supposed to understand how and when to act on said judgment.

We all may have some judgmental thoughts and some of them may concern race, but there's a point where you realize some things you really do need to just keep to yourself and how you treat a person should depend on how they've conducted themselves and treated you.

Also, as stated by a few other people, racism is not strictly limited to outright slavery; it can include using someone's skin color as the only factor in your opinion or using the actions of one person of a certain race to judge the actions of everyone within that same race.

Btw, yes even I'm disturbed by my ava.

tsurugi
02-04-2009, 09:36 PM
I disagree. I am a little prejudice but not racist. Those prejudices arise from my social experience with people of a particular culture, or ethnic background that wasn't so great. Over-time, I've learned to attribute problems I have with people to that person, not the collective.

Prejudice is just racism without hate. Personal prejudices is what start racism the majority of the time.

Lucky
02-04-2009, 10:34 PM
I have dealt with racist bullshit for a large portion of my life, being a white male with a black fiance' in the south will do that. Very few have been out in the open with it, but you can just tell with some people, the way they look at you, react to you, etc... And that goes for both black and white people. I've had someone tell me, and actually think it was ok, that "oh I am not a racist person at all, I just don't think you should be mixing with those people".... yeah that's not racist at all right? ....

I have to say though, for as many people who dislike the both of us, there have been just as many if not more who welcome us with open arms. Just little things like being bought drinks at bars because, "we are cute together", and "good for the both of you" type of thing which is a little strange, but I take as compliments as it is sort of a fuck what anyone else thinks kind of thing.

Sadly there will always exist racism, but it's definitely not as bad as it once was, and things do appear to slowly but surely be getting better. But for just as many advances are made there are always incidents like the whole "Jena 6" thing in south Louisiana that correctly or incorrectly puts a spotlight on racism.

He's a Mentalist
02-05-2009, 12:38 AM
Prejudice is just racism without hate. Personal prejudices is what start racism the majority of the time.

http://www.understandingprejudice.org/

http://www.adl.org/hate-patrol/racism.asp

To a certain extent I would agree.

Feranor
02-05-2009, 06:54 AM
Btw, yes even I'm disturbed by my ava.

http://forums.bleachexile.com/image.php?u=16222&dateline=1233731781
http://i40.tinypic.com/rk9cp3.jpg

Doesn't look much better in white if you ask me. :amused:

Aidan
02-05-2009, 07:32 AM
I hate racism in general, but one of the things that bothers me the most is the phrase "I'm not racist, but...". That is almost ALWAYS bullshit. "I'm not racist, but you see a black guy coming down the street, you ..." "I'm not racist, but Asians tend to ...."
Seriously. Bullshit rhetoric.

Personally I think that it's very hard for white people to understand racism, and so it's extremely presumptuous of us to say things like "racism is over" or "well he's just playing the race card." Clouding the issue is the fact that minorities do sometimes play the race card, and that reverse racism does exist and to be honest, is more socially acceptable. I think that it takes a lot of maturity to look at both sides of the issue and not let the facts of either side affect how seriously you take either argument.

I think that our discomfort in discussing it, the fact that racism is a taboo subject, is harmful and that we need to have a more open discussion as a nation, as a culture.

xTHHxAimiForevr
02-05-2009, 10:25 AM
{reference to Current P.o.d.}

In the poorer parts of South Africa, if you see a white person walking around your neighborhood you might as well be looking at a dollar sign with legs. Chances are if you're white and you're in an area like that, you're a tourist. And if you're a tourist, you must have money.

Mikeno
02-05-2009, 11:24 AM
I hate racism in general, but one of the things that bothers me the most is the phrase "I'm not racist, but...". That is almost ALWAYS bullshit. "I'm not racist, but you see a black guy coming down the street, you ..." "I'm not racist, but Asians tend to ...."
Seriously. Bullshit rhetoric.

Personally I think that it's very hard for white people to understand racism, and so it's extremely presumptuous of us to say things like "racism is over" or "well he's just playing the race card." Clouding the issue is the fact that minorities do sometimes play the race card, and that reverse racism does exist and to be honest, is more socially acceptable. I think that it takes a lot of maturity to look at both sides of the issue and not let the facts of either side affect how seriously you take either argument.

I think that our discomfort in discussing it, the fact that racism is a taboo subject, is harmful and that we need to have a more open discussion as a nation, as a culture.

Wow.. I'm impressed by the extent of your understanding..


But also the next time you feel a black person is "playing the race card" ask a black person who you feel can convey how they felt about the certain situation into words.. because I'm from the standpoint that people who feel we "play the racecard" don't actually understand where we're coming from.. and yet some will never understand.. and even in some instances those times that "WE" are playing the racecard its actually white people who feel its necessary to champion black rights and make an otherwise simple issue into a sensitive one.. not bashing white people.. especially those who take the time to help us in certain situations.. but get the story in its entirety before throwing us under the bus for what you would feel is us "playing the racecard..


Slowly but surely racism is beeing squeezed out of existence.. but it may never be truly gone.. racism that is.. as well people will always find something to be otherwise prejudiced against another for though.. racism is just a more fiery issue..

arthur11
02-05-2009, 12:58 PM
I find racism to be a strange subject highly subjective to individual outlooks. I find most of the people within my friendship circles (im white) are of different races, i have many somali friends, afro-carribean, mixed race, pakistani etc etc. And we abuse it we take the piss out of each other's races based on stereo-types, political issues etc. If we meet up it could be a 'safe my nigga' in return for a 'ey what you sayin honky/pigskin' and its not a problem its only people around us who have a problem because there not comfortble with the issue.

All this 'Huh! you cant say that' bullshit is ridiculus, the connotations of a word can be offensive but if you are to get past that you have to replace those connotations with other ones like when i think the word nigger i think about blazing with my mate Omar on a saturday night or football matches in the local factory with my friends...not bloodshed, slavery and hate. You could say well thats because your white..but ive experianced my fair share of true hate, ignorance fueled racsim i.e. getting picked on by black guys on the assumption your a 'pussy white boi..' and 'white people these days need a clap coming round here.' but because my friends will take the piss out of this enough with me knowing they dont actually think I am or have these opinions on me, I get no rise when someone says it to me. I dont care. It becomes nothing but a joke and as such i can joke it off and not be weary of other races. This i think is what people should take more on board because by socially sanctioning off what cannot and can be said your just drawing more lines between races, you need to let it fully mix and bubble about to heal these gaps.

Tbh right now people should be concerned more with classism which is the main root of racism.

Aidan
02-05-2009, 01:22 PM
That's an important point and part of a debate I was having with my roommate the other day. He was talking about how now most of the problems black people face are due to them being disproportionately poor, and that it's more of a class problem than a race problem. Defiitely, class is an issue, but I feel like race is too.... then again like I said before, being white (and middle class) it's really hard for me to say since I can't speak from experience in either regard.

@Mikeno: I understand what you're saying, I won't presume to know where people are coming from when they give race-based arguments. Perhaps the "race card" was a bad way of phrasing it...

TW501
02-05-2009, 01:38 PM
The term "race card" has become something of a loaded word. While the concept itself does occur sometimes, the word has some rather negative connotations.

Marrow Rivengristel
02-06-2009, 08:54 PM
Modern racism was created as a capital accruement plan by the East India company in its bid to divide and conquer the indian sub-continent. It continues to be used in this capacity to blind a substantial subset of the population at large to the true nature of the world around them.

TW501
02-06-2009, 09:10 PM
Well, the British East India Company (among other groups, both governmental and business) certainly propogated racism, but racism has always been in place in some form or another. Not always literally against a 'race' but the concept of hating and fearing a certain group of people for no logical reason has always been present in nearly every civilization that has come into contact with other civilizations.

arthur11
02-07-2009, 08:27 AM
Its cuz they aint like us innit :p

kochito22
02-07-2009, 09:26 AM
When I lived in a black neighborhood, I didn't hear stereotypes about Asians, Hispanics, or Blacks. When I moved to a white neighborhood and attended a mostly white school, I heard them.

Chaiba-Sama
02-07-2009, 10:02 AM
racists are ignorant

Marrow Rivengristel
02-07-2009, 10:10 AM
Well, the British East India Company (among other groups, both governmental and business) certainly propogated racism, but racism has always been in place in some form or another. Not always literally against a 'race' but the concept of hating and fearing a certain group of people for no logical reason has always been present in nearly every civilization that has come into contact with other civilizations.

Modern Racism is different from what you are describing it is an institutionalized plan of action not a collection of taboos.

afrotaito
02-07-2009, 10:21 AM
some times its the media that enforces or promote racism and stereotypes with out real thought.

TW501
02-07-2009, 11:27 AM
Modern Racism is different from what you are describing it is an institutionalized plan of action not a collection of taboos.

Well, what I'm saying is that there is no one source for racism. It has been propogated by a number of means throughout history to become what it is today.

Marrow Rivengristel
02-07-2009, 11:34 AM
Well, what I'm saying is that there is no one source for racism. It has been propogated by a number of means throughout history to become what it is today.

Well Im saying that MODERN RACISM (institutionalized racism) came into existence in the form of a business plan by the British East India Company. So I guess we're not even arguing.
:amused:

Simplistic Interpretation follows:
Northern indians often a fairer complexion speaking in a distinct dialect, Southern indians often of a darker complexion speaking in another distinct dialect. *Enter the British east india company who wants to conquer and exploit the subcontinent for spice/tea/opium/etc*->Compose the Neo-Aryan identity [which prior to their arrival had been a social position or refereance to reverance similar to Sir(socially) or Father (religiously)] and then ascribes it to the Northern Indians thus dividing the population and greasing the wheels of conquest.

Kade73647
02-12-2009, 07:56 AM
With a black half brother and a Mexican ex-wife I prefer to keep myself open ended. So I am an equal opportunity racist. I just basically hate everyone equally. So in point everyone also has an equal chance to be my friend depending on attitude.

My friends are from just about every ethnicity and social status. We have thrown PC out the window and rip on each other. It's quite fun in public because we like to reverse the racial slurs on each other. It throws people way off. When you take the power out of a word it becomes just a word.

I think 99% of you on these boards are young enough to be my kids. You are the generation to set things right. From what I've read so far I see much promise. Please don't dissappoint.

So in the end I hate you all :jk:


Much Love and Peace

ismey
02-12-2009, 01:17 PM
With a black half brother and a Mexican ex-wife I prefer to keep myself open ended. So I am an equal opportunity racist. I just basically hate everyone equally. So in point everyone also has an equal chance to be my friend depending on attitude.

My friends are from just about every ethnicity and social status. We have thrown PC out the window and rip on each other. It's quite fun in public because we like to reverse the racial slurs on each other. It throws people way off. When you take the power out of a word it becomes just a word.

I think 99% of you on these boards are young enough to be my kids. You are the generation to set things right. From what I've read so far I see much promise. Please don't dissappoint.

So in the end I hate you all :jk:


Much Love and Peace

i agree with u old man lol..........

Fatstogey
02-13-2009, 07:24 AM
With a black half brother and a Mexican ex-wife I prefer to keep myself open ended. So I am an equal opportunity racist. I just basically hate everyone equally. So in point everyone also has an equal chance to be my friend depending on attitude.

My friends are from just about every ethnicity and social status. We have thrown PC out the window and rip on each other. It's quite fun in public because we like to reverse the racial slurs on each other. It throws people way off. When you take the power out of a word it becomes just a word.

I think 99% of you on these boards are young enough to be my kids. You are the generation to set things right. From what I've read so far I see much promise. Please don't dissappoint.

So in the end I hate you all :jk:


Much Love and Peace

Yea you do gotta take away the power from the word by overuse.
A dude i know heard someone say the n word. Hes all up in arms. "you get shot if you said shit like that in chicago. blah blah"

Wow thats really wise choice. He says the N word and you shoot him. Sounds fair. Um yea your the one going to jail. That wasnt the right choice of action. How people even waste the time letting one word upset them so is beyond me.
Its dumb to get so offended.

Then ill hear "you dont understand what that word means." Ok no i dont.(and technically if your not 40+ years old then you dont either. Having some 20 year old black dude telling me i dont understand is so retarded, he doesnt understand either. It was explained to him just as it has been to me.)
And i dont care either. It was in the past. We need to worry about whats coming in our future. Its much more important than what has already happened.

Im sorry. But its time to get over it. People are gonna be racist. Let them be. Only time will get rid of it.

BTC
02-14-2009, 07:21 AM
People will always have a problem with people who are different because of segregation. If the Asians keep hanging out with other Asians, and the Mexicans only chill with Mexicans, etc. the world will never understand how similar we all are.

I believe Racism is a noun, not a verb.


That's why I only date white chicks. :D (I'm Asian by the way.)

lonelyfighterx
02-14-2009, 04:52 PM
If the Asians keep hanging out with other Asians, and the Mexicans only chill with Mexicans, etc. the world will never understand how similar we all are.

That would lead to misunderstanding. A huge-scale of misunderstanding will lead to conflict. A huge conflict leads to war. A war lead to death. All start with a simple thing: Racism...

He's a Mentalist
02-14-2009, 04:54 PM
Also leads to the slippery slope fallacy.

BTC
02-15-2009, 01:24 AM
That would lead to misunderstanding. A huge-scale of misunderstanding will lead to conflict. A huge conflict leads to war. A war lead to death. All start with a simple thing: Racism...

What is there to be misunderstood? All people have dreams, emotions, loves, hates, choices, and things we believe.

Are you saying that it would be a lie if an Asian and a Mexican hung out, despite having similar interests?

Please elaborate why breaking racial segregation is a misunderstanding.

fakeobsession
02-15-2009, 04:53 AM
Racims ,well what can I say about that...
It's not that I hate people who are different from I mean, I try to be different
it's just that I don't like some particular groups of people.
& that's because most of them are a pain. Usually provoke trouble.
I don't have problem for example with black people or people with different religious beliefs...
That's what I call racism.

LuvsRenji
02-15-2009, 08:16 AM
Its unfortunate to have to still discuss topics like this, but it's not going anywhere anytime soon.

There'll always be the hard-core racists, that refuse to budge from their beliefs... THEIR LOSS. I can't fault them for that. I'm not going to hate them for hating me for whatever reason (race, nationality, religion, social class, etc.) They don't KNOW me, I don't know them. It's based on lies, fear, speculation and maybe some experience. (Not necessarily in that order.)

When it comes down to getting help when they need it, like a life or death situation: I wonder if something as insignifigant as race would matter then? From what I've seen/heard...it doesn't matter, not at that moment.

Octo...being confronted with something like that as a child, is like a slap in the face. Hard lesson to learn isn't it? Been through it (I think it was definately necessary, but not right.)

lonelyfighterx
02-15-2009, 10:51 PM
What is there to be misunderstood? All people have dreams, emotions, loves, hates, choices, and things we believe.

Are you saying that it would be a lie if an Asian and a Mexican hung out, despite having similar interests?

Please elaborate why breaking racial segregation is a misunderstanding.

I meant, if people always hang out with their own kind... Mexican with Mexican, Asian with Asian, American with American. If that goes on, they will less know about each other. When we cannot understand each other, that will lead to misunderstanding. Huge misunderstanding leads to conflict. Huge conflict leads to war. War leads to death. It may sound dumb, but that's the fact.

The Catalyst
02-16-2009, 08:14 AM
i have no idea why some people in this world dont respect ppl just because of their skin color, or how the way they talk, its wrong, and why should we treat fellow human to human convos with racism? its cruel to think of ppl and why they're different. some people have to deal with the fact that ppl are everywhere with different races, skin tones, and languages.

arthur11
03-10-2009, 04:41 AM
For something funny and positive, because i feel sometimes feel people think black people take themselves to seriously this video is completely contrary to that. Its very sarcastic with tongue in cheek cracks at the black stereotypes and attitude like what/who they 'big up' in england with a few politics thrown in and if your not british you might not understand some of the names hes mentioning, most of them are grime or rap artists.

'Personally when Eddie done mel B i thought well done, hes a black boy whose just like me....so like,hes respected due certainly.....' lol Its so true...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1VsJoPo9QY&playnext_from=PL&feature=PlayList&p=3D6206756FFE2B1D&playnext=1&index=11