Mass effect 2

[redfable]

Seen the new trailer for mass effect 2 it was sweet what to do you think will happen in the new game? Here's a link to the trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHzVQKkAfuU

[Paragon]

Can't wait to see some actual gameplay. Cool teaser though, i'm hyped for this game.

[Feem]

Woah that teaser was awesome. I heard that your Mass Effect save file will be important for when you start Mass Effect 2. O:

Guess that means you might start off as good/evil depending on your old profile...

[redfable]

Ya i was a nice in mass effect unlike most people i know

[easY]

Ya i was a nice in mass effect unlike most people i know

I was full Paragon first time round - I feel like playing it on hard and going renegade just to get the achievements lol

[chinaman1472]

Looks good, but I hope they refine the aiming system, and possibly add a jump feature....

[Random]

would it be worth getting 1 or should 2 be enough?

[Paragon]

Start if off with Mass Effect 1 definitely. It shouldn't be that expensive right about now as well.

[Feem]

According to interviews, the designers said that players should have played Mass Effect 1 to really understand what's going on.

[Chase]

Yeah Mass Effect is only 20 bucks now, it comes with an extra disc that includes a documentary, the dlc(bring down the sky), music and a couple of more stuff.

Game is steal for 20 bucks, it was worth the 60 i paid for it when it first game out.

And yeah the trailer for 2 got me excited:smile:

[TokyoRacer]

The teaser trailer is nice, however, I won't pass any judgment until I see gameplay footage.

[redfable]

Mass effect one is a must get if you are thinking about getting 2

[lelouche]

i dunno if you guys heard or not but back when the first one came out they said the game would be one of 3. So its a trilogy and way back then they also mentioned that you will use the game saves from the previous games in the next ones.

[MCAV]

Woah that teaser was awesome. I heard that your Mass Effect save file will be important for when you start Mass Effect 2. O:

Guess that means you might start off as good/evil depending on your old profile...
Good and evil? Well, that depends on your point of view actually. Letting the council die is not really evil. It was a sound tactical decision...Honest :muaha:
I hope your right though with the save games. I just finished the game again, 2 times 2 weeks back. female renegade and male paragon.

I'm hoping for more space battles like near the end. Those were pretty well made.
Here's to hoping it won't take too long to make.

[chinaman1472]

The teaser trailer is nice, however, I won't pass any judgment until I see gameplay footage.

Mass Effect for the most part was a pretty well designed game on the whole; it could have definitely use some refinement though. Generally sequels polish up the prequel, but of course there are exceptions.

[MCAV]

As long as the playstyle is the same. The way you fight, the level up system and the general game and it's many races. They could include more Batarians, female alien counterparts, the Quarian migration fleet, the Terminus system races/fleet etc etc the list is endless.

The ending in ME1 with the council dead, or a human council. The choice in between the 2 would be beyond words so awesome off course.

This sequel can be even better than the previous part if they play it right. The trailer itself sucked though. Shepard K.I.A. fuck that, I don't want to play a different human character.

[redfable]

Good and evil? Well, that depends on your point of view actually. Letting the council die is not really evil. It was a sound tactical decision...Honest :muaha:
I hope your right though with the save games. I just finished the game again, 2 times 2 weeks back. female renegade and male paragon.

I'm hoping for more space battles like near the end. Those were pretty well made.
Here's to hoping it won't take too long to make.

I want more space battles too and let to council die there were so dumb:wacko:

[TokyoRacer]

Mass Effect for the most part was a pretty well designed game on the whole; it could have definitely use some refinement though. Generally sequels polish up the prequel, but of course there are exceptions.



Yeah that's why KOTOR2 sucked ass compared to the first one...right?

[14M85H4NKZ]

Kotor2 was great and mass effect 2 will be also.

[TokyoRacer]

Kotor2 was great and mass effect 2 will be also.


No. KOTOR2 was terrible.

[Feem]

Good and evil? Well, that depends on your point of view actually. Letting the council die is not really evil. It was a sound tactical decision...Honest :muaha:
I hope your right though with the save games. I just finished the game again, 2 times 2 weeks back. female renegade and male paragon. I'm hoping for more space battles like near the end. Those were pretty well made.
Here's to hoping it won't take too long to make.

1) Man the Council pissed me off to no end.
2) I DID THE EXACT SAME THING. O:

Shepard K.I.A. fuck that, I don't want to play a different human character.

Maybe Shepard went undercover or something? Changing the main character would be pretty lame.

[chinaman1472]

Yeah that's why KOTOR2 sucked ass compared to the first one...right?

Obviously you skipped the words "Generally" and "exceptions":rollseyes:

[Korbenik]

DLC for Mass effect =D, liked the game alot, looks like i get to enjoy the game even more with MS2 coming =D

[redfable]

I hope there will be a game play video at E3 or something like that this year.

[pumpkin13]

I enjoyed KOTOR2 loads, prefer it over the first one but maybe thats just because I played the second one first and there was all this Darth Revan uberness mythology background then when I actually came to play as him/her I was kinda like... Revan sucks compared to what i've heard. Darth Treya FTMFW.

Anyway, back on topic. Various aspects of Mass Effect need MAJOR overhauls IMO. I was massively disappointed with the "optional" missions, the extra ones and going around trauling the systems for planets. It was not only pretty much the same formula again and again (find the base, kill the renegades/scientists/geth outside or in it then report back to ship for a congratulation, but the enemy bases/ outposts were even the very same, with only two differentations, the underground one or the one that looked like a big cargo shuttle with a warehouse inside. That was basically it. I just got fed up with those missions in the end. Considering the possibility of variation available and theoretically available to them they really let themselves down. The storyline missions were good, but the extra missions that would flesh out the game were just poor and way below par. The planets needed more variation. Not just either a difference in colour or savannah and mountains/rocky desert and heat/cold effects but actual different evnironments, the planet earth alone has more than they offered for discovery.

So yeah, more planetary variation and better sub missions, like a series of sub missions where you can found and build up your own moon colony and build up a city etc etc that would be cool.

I don't think Shepherd is KIA, there's plenty more he/she (i played a good hearted renegade female first time through, started to play through as a hard nosed take no shit BAMF guy the second time but the prospect of all those sub missions and in between bits bored the fuck out of me so i didn't bother) can do as the First Human Spectre.

[pumpkin13]

BUMP

New Trailer (well... not really new but nothings been going on in here for a while)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCpK2XnIaeI

ZOMG i cannot express how fucking mint this game looks. Things we can gather from the trailer...
1) it seems the Geth are not the only enemy you have to fight, as a non-geth ship attacks the Normandy (could be a Reaper i guess...)
2) further strengthened by 1:35 it appears Shepherd kills an alien that appears to have some kind of omni-tool like device, then again, this could be just a new design of armour with holoscreens on as...
3) new guns! with little holoscreens on, looks mint, and a rocket launcher? badass.

Seriously, can Bioware actually physically make a BAD game?

[Vic]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD0AdV6-rAY

Yeah looking good

[Paragon]

New characters that they've shown all seem REALLY interesting, not a boring looking character in sight. Be interesting to see just how they interact with party members from the first game.

Definitely approve of this dark-ish theme Bioware have going on with Mass Effect 2.

[Yexley]

oh, I didn't know they were making a second one, I'm currently in the process of playing Mass Effect right now considering it was recently released on Steam in the UK.

[[-Shirion-]]

Mass Effect 2 is on a solid path to becoming a great game. But I have a problem with one thing, and it is reaffirmed by the video Vic posted; what the hell is up with the facial expressions? Or the lack thereof.

Usually little things like this rarely bother me, if ever. But it just seems like the characters have no use of their facial muscles.

[Vic]

if the only problem with ME2 is the facial expressions then Bioware would have made some great strides lol

[[-Shirion-]]

if the only problem with ME2 is the facial expressions then Bioware would have made some great strides lol

Definitely, without a doubt, but we both know that BioWare isn't going to be making that type of leap.

I guess it is just a quirky pet peeve I have when it comes to the footage I have seen. It boldly stands out to me, and that is quite unusual.

[Ash]

I want a melee option.

[Yexley]

Melee option would be a big plus, hitting someone with the butt of the gun once is just annoying. They already included jedi powers, might as well give us some light sabers too.

[[-Shirion-]]

Melee option would be a big plus, hitting someone with the butt of the gun once is just annoying. They already included jedi powers, might as well give us some light sabers too.

No kidding.

[Ash]

Just call it an Omni-Blade

[Yexley]

Would make the classes more varied too, could combine biotec stuff with melee and mod weapons more with tech.

haha, I hope there are more bits like being able to commit genocide in Mass Effect 2, just did that bit where you kill the raichi (or whatever they're called).

[Ash]

I let the Rachni live and pissed the counsel off in a big way while doing it.

[MCAV]

They ALWAYS whined no matter what you did. Never satisfied because you were human. Racist bastards.

[Ash]

So far what I am most impressed with is that all the choices you made in the first game carry over into the second. You load your actual game into the 2nd one, not like Kotor II where you dialouge chose what Revan did.
So every detail is carried over. Also the characters from the previous game will make an apperance and you can choose to have a new romance or continue with the one you had from the first game.

The only thing is being Shepard again, will you have your same abilities and the enemies will be harder at the start or will you start from scratch all over again with your experience.

[Yexley]

I just went with the racist Ashley in my team cause I always had her for her high combat stats. Those aliens pissed me off too, dropping out of vents and shit was annoying. The whole of Mass Effect is about racism, most people on your crew seem racist and the whole council is.
I'm interested in whether Mass Effect 2 has a good story, can't be bothered to play it if it isn't.

Edit: ok that is impressive Ash, I really want to see how that turns out, hopefully they don't pull a 'oops, looks like you got amnesia and lost all your skills and weapons'.

[Ash]

Yeah I was actually pretty disappointed with Ashley. I was looking for a Bastila type character. I mean I still had Shepard get with her cause the only other options were interspecies and faggatory. AND on top of that the Aliens were ugly and the man you could get with had Carth´s voice.

Ashley also let me down cause she shares my name and was a pretty lame girl.

[Yexley]

She didn't seem sure about whether she was a racist or not. I hope they introduce some good new characters, there weren't many characters that I thought were awesome in the first game.

[Ash]

I liked Garris, I think that was his name. The same type of alien as Saran

[Yexley]

Yeah, was something like that. I liked when he shot the guy in the head who was holding the women hostage, good way to introduce a new character. So are all the old characters in the game still in it? I haven't finished Mass Effect yet so I guess it's hard for me to see how they will start number 2.

[Ash]

Well a couple of your characters may die in the first game so they obviously would not be in it.
Im not sure if your original party members are playable but they are in the game atleast.

[Yexley]

That's cool, Bioware make some good team based games. Shame they make it so you always piss someone off whatever you do.

[Ash]

With all the trouble you go through for one Reaper how are you suppose to defeat the entire species???

[Yexley]

Figured you'd fight a reaper at some point, mainly because the Council keep saying they aren't real. Mass Effect reminds me a lot of Firefly.

[Ash]

Firefly? Really. Besides there being a counsel filled with controlling douches how so¿?

[Yexley]

It's just the whole space thing really, seems closest to Firefly rather than Star Wars or Star Trek (never seen much of that to be fair).

[xTHHxAimiForevr]

I liked the original Mass Effect because of the amazing face details, customization, environments, lighting effects, RPG/shooter gameplay, And all the side and bonus stuff. I can't say I thought too much about the story cuz' it didn't really standout to me.

[Paragon]

Mass Effect 2 Final Box Art:

http://epicbattleaxe.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/me2newcover1.jpg

What do people like more? Old or new version?

The new one looks like something out of Star Wars.

[CakeSpoon]

Mass Effect 2 Final Box Art:

http://epicbattleaxe.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/me2newcover1.jpg

What do people like more? Old or new version?

The new one looks like something out of Star Wars.

Was about to say the exact same thing.

I prefer the second one. I like simple covers, if a cover looks too ostentatious & just screams "look at me", I'm usually sceptical of how good the game is. I think that's why most good games have really simple cover art.

[pumpkin13]

It's just the whole space thing really, seems closest to Firefly rather than Star Wars or Star Trek (never seen much of that to be fair).

Disagree here, Firefly was unique because of it's heavy Western sci-fi theme, and I really can't see that in Mass Effect... I think Mass Effect has done fairly well to create it's own universe, if i would compare it to another series it would perhaps be something like Babylon 5.

[dyne]

Was about to say the exact same thing.

I prefer the second one. I like simple covers, if a cover looks too ostentatious & just screams "look at me", I'm usually sceptical of how good the game is. I think that's why most good games have really simple cover art.

2 words

two worlds

[CakeSpoon]

2 words

two worlds

Touché, I've never played it, but I've heard it's awful. Claiming to be a way better version of Oblivion was enough for me to realise they were full of crap.

[dyne]

crap is an understatement the game was a piece of shit

[xTHHxAimiForevr]

They've got new vids up about the new classes in ME2. You can find em' in a google search

[Elarius]

The look of the official site has changed as far as i can tell,been a while since i last visited it but apparently it changed today.

[Ash]

Mass Effect 2 Final Box Art:

http://epicbattleaxe.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/me2newcover1.jpg

What do people like more? Old or new version?

The new one looks like something out of Star Wars.

I like the colour scheme of the first one better.

[xTHHxAimiForevr]

I do like the first one better....

I didn't know EA was working with BioWare...

[Elarius]

I have to say tho so far they have made excellent trailers to sell the game and there is an extremely high chance that it will have very memorable characters, i am looking forward to experience the changes in the combat system and as far as i can tell this might have a darker feel to it storywise.

Its one of the very few titles out there that i dont care about its price tag and cant wait to get my hands on it.

And obviously will love to see how the save file from the first game will affect this.

[Elarius]

For any people that might be interested, there is a trailer of the voice cast now:

http://uk.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/masseffect2workingtitle/video/6242706?hd=1&tag=topslot;img;1

Interesting to see Tricia Helfer in 2 upcoming Sci-fi games with Starcraft 2 included and also i personally like the choices of the rest, quite strong cast.

Edit: The cinematic for it should be out soon, within the next few days i heard.

[Ash]

Its too bad Jennifer Hale does Female Sheapard already, I would have liked to have heard her as a different character. Not really diggin her Shepard voice.

[pumpkin13]

I found out more having read a recent massive preview article inverted at the back of one of our english mags. Premise is (aside of the widely commented upon suicide mission) that humans are disappearing all over the galaxy, originally they thought it was all races being targeted but it turns out it's just humans. The culprits are a race called "The Collectors" who are humanoid bug-like beings that appear to be equipped with Reaper technology. The geth have a smaller role in this, the primary antagonists being the Collectors, backed by Reapers.

The uber edition of the game comes with free DLC of a Collector themed armour and a collector automatic rifle. BUT IT DOESNT APPEAR TO BE ON PC -> livid. Fortunately i at least have the Blood Dragon armour from DA:O already downloaded...

[Paragon]

For any people that might be interested, there is a trailer of the voice cast now:

http://uk.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/masseffect2workingtitle/video/6242706?hd=1&tag=topslot;img;1

Interesting to see Tricia Helfer in 2 upcoming Sci-fi games with Starcraft 2 included and also i personally like the choices of the rest, quite strong cast.

Edit: The cinematic for it should be out soon, within the next few days i heard.

BioWare have gone all out.

The Miranda character looks awesome, i'm gonna have my Shephard romance her. http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/slyashell/shades_smile.gif Her voice over looks almost like her but with blonde hair. O_O

[pumpkin13]

OMFG

Martin Sheen
...
Seth Green returns (confirmation of Joke being able to walk, thus likely not dying when Normandy is attacked as some were worried) Seth Green's brief interview in this was awesome.
...
Carrie-Anne Moss
...
KIETH DAVID (so much underrated win in one man)
...
Adam Baldwin! haha
...
Michael Dorn

wow so many awesome names.

Wants my female character to sex up the badgirl Moss plays lol.

[xTHHxAimiForevr]

Carrie Anne Moss? The Canadian from the Matrix?!? They are goin' all out... I'm definitely getting this for PC.

[Ash]

That woman looks like a giant bird.

[Elarius]

The sneak peek of the cinematic is out on IGN, the full version will be out on the 22nd of this month.

http://uk.pc.ign.com/dor/objects/14235019/mass-effect-2/videos/masseffect2_trl_121209.html

[Elarius]

Found this today on the gamespot site, its some of the gameplay of the soldier class but also showing a dialogue scene, it might be a bit of a spoiler in a way so maybe some peeps might want to avoid it.

http://uk.gamespot.com/shows/today-on-the-spot/?tag=topslot%3bthumb%3b1#toggle_video

Its 27 minutes into the video and it lasts something like 6 minutes that part.

[Paragon]

The sneak peek of the cinematic is out on IGN, the full version will be out on the 22nd of this month.

http://uk.pc.ign.com/dor/objects/14235019/mass-effect-2/videos/masseffect2_trl_121209.html

That trailer looks awesome. The scene where the biotic knocks back the guards reminded of the force in Star Wars.

[EspadaNnoitra]

http://pc.ign.com/articles/105/1056104p1.html

The article apparantly covers the first hour and a half of the game so it is a spoiler but they also go over how it plays and feels compared to the first.

^The biotic is one of my favorite classes but I'm probably going to go with the revamped engineer.

[Elarius]

Full cinematic trailer is out via xbox live.

One word:

Brilliant

[Paragon]

Yeah it looks awesome. Wish they'd show a few more of the cast from ME1 though, but i guess Bioware are probably keeping those for the actual game. Wrex and Ashley better just still be in the game, i kept those two alive for a reason lol.

[pumpkin13]

i fucking loved wrex, but i have a feeling the character that Michael Dorn voices will probably act as a take-over character for him unfortunately.

skimread the review. Sorry guys, but i really dont see the appeal in Miranda. Visually... she's pretty fugly.

[Elarius]

New vid, 12 mins gameplay, could call it a spoiler so again for peeps that dont want to know until you play, avoid.

http://uk.gamespot.com/shows/today-on-the-spot/?event=mass_effect_220091221&tag=topslot;thumb;2

Love the new Normandy personally.

[pumpkin13]

I've decided they HAVE to make a ME2/N7 desktop theme, icons and all. I want it.

[Yexley]

ok it's annoying me now. It's just sitting there on Steam in the store. But I can't pre-order it and no price is even listed.

[frack]

^I KNOW. Dammit, Steam is taunting us.

I still like that commercial:

"Where do you think they go?"
"I've never thought about it."

*In a toilet*

"Hold your breath!"
"I CAN'T SWIM."

[Elarius]

I am getting the collector's edition for the xbox, it seems only game and gamestation in the UK have them so i decided to get it from game since i have membership with them but the price is the only pain since its 55£(85$ or something, maybe less). But the extra stuff is pretty cool and i only get very few games in their special edition despite the normal edition been only 30£ on amazon which is quite a sweet price for it.

[Yexley]

The special edition was like £46 or something on EA site last time I looked.

[Elarius]

The PC version is that much and actually on the game site it seems that its £5 less or something from what EA offers(think the only difference is waiting for the game box rather going via steam), but the xbox version seems that its only exclusive via hmv,game and gamestation and cannot be bought online. They did something similar with Dragon Age as i recall.

[Yexley]

huh, random. Thanks for the info.

[Elarius]

So the game is getting closer and closer to its release(7 days for north America and 10 for the EU) and maybe some of you might be thinking what class to go for and since recently i happened to go through these videos i thought it might be a decent idea to post them here and it might help some peeps to decide what they think will suit their playstyle.

Vanguard

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/vanguard-class-mass-effect/60477

Soldier

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/soldier-class-mass-effect/60791

Infiltrator

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/infiltrator-class-mass-effect/60276

Engineer

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/engineer-class-mass-effect/59736

Adept

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/adept-combat-mass-effect/59490

Sentinel

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/sentinel-class-mass-effect/59962


For me its a choice between on what it looks the very improved soldier class and the vanguard with its brilliant charge ability, even though i can see me playing through all the classes as time goes by but one of those two i will start with.

[Paragon]

The save i intend to take into ME2 is a Vanguard so i'll probably choose the Vanguard class again just for the sake of it. Next playthrough might be the Engineer class.

[Yexley]

I think I'll stick with solider.

[pumpkin13]

I originally played Infiltrator but the Engineer looks pretty boss IMO. Elemental abilities? yes please.

The Sentinel's tech armour looks badass, it would make sense for the fully tech based class to have it too but oh well...

[Yexley]

All the classes look pretty awesome but I prefer playing a simple game of run and gun during fights, don't want to spend time using skills.
ME2 has a tough fight on it's hands if it's to be as good as Dragon Age (I seriously can't see it being better).

[Thanatyr]

I think I'll stick to adept for my good character. Clearing a room is already easy with biotics, the new ones look bad ass.

Then my evil one will stick to infiltrator.

[Yexley]

My good character will probably be an adept but my evil one (main one) will be my first play through and be a soldier. I kinda forget to use skills in fights so it suits me best lol.
Only 10 more days until I get to play it, hope my laptop is fixed properly by then.

[jambi]

Going with my Vanguard for my good playthrough (and probably first) and then using my renegade, hot, goth chick solider for the next. I don't know about you guys but I'm thinking of taking a few days off from work.

[ismey]

lol the bests parts are always when you go renegade its just funny.....you just get to be a complete asshole lol.

[Elarius]

Ah also the site that i posted the class videos from have documentary parts that have been added recently, they are meant to be 4 parts and so far the 3 of them are up, the 4th should be out tomorrow or the day after that, they go really deep, they hardly give any spoilers but they give a good incentive as to what to expect.

I like the fact that the decisions we get to make can have a serious impact with the ending but also the characters involved are completely different from one another, not just in looks but character wise i think they will keep players very aware when key decisions are meant to take place later in the game and ofcourse as always the Paragon/Renegade part is always a mechanic i liked(even from the days of the kotor equivalent of it) and it seems it might have a bigger effect this time.

The other part which they do mention is various planets this time will have some sort of connection with the main story, which seems that they really paid attention to what the community was asking since ME1, but i guess they might have done that regardless.


The documentaries(to save peeps time from looking):

Part 1

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-sci-mass-effect/60872

Part 2

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-sci-mass-effect/60945


Part 3

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-sci-mass-effect/60958

and a developer diary

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/n7-developer-mass-effect/60951


P.S. there will be some sort of DLC on launch day but its completely free, not sure what it is but probably some fixes or something.

[pumpkin13]

does anyone know if any more has been said about choosing options for the state of the galaxy if you dont have a prior game save. An early article I read said that for people without prior game saves from ME1 they would be able to do so. I've played ME1 through and completed it but since installing windows7 have lost my gamesave and had to reinstall ME1 and i cant be bothered to play it all the way through again... certainly not in time for ME2 coming out (too busy with Tenchu: WoH, Onimusha 2 and Jade Empire).

[aKiBa55]

Grunt, looks so stupid. I'm glad I got Wrex to live, but I dunno if he'll transfer over or not. I know all the actions I did will roll over for me, does that include characters? I'd rather not have Grunt haha Wrex was one of my best friends in ME 1. As far as class, I'll just port over my completed one, I think it was Infiltraitor but I can't remember. Might need to run a replay before I grab up ME2...

[pumpkin13]

Im fairly sure Grunt was introduced to replace Wrex if you didnt save him...

[aKiBa55]

Thank the maker! I saved him so he'll be around then. Awesome. Thanks for clarifying that little tidbit for me ^^ Grunt still looks like a punk :p

[Elarius]

Launch Trailer is out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAyO-_cWBIM

[ShadowAbarai]

My boyfriend tried to get me to play the first Mass Effect when he had it, I believe it was last year sometime I don't really remember, but at the time I just didn't want to. I have to say since I started playing it I really enjoy it and am looking forward to playing Mass Effect 2. The launch trailer looks really good. I'm excited for it.

[Thanatyr]

Never doubt Bioware, Canadian goodness. They started in my home town!
I think I started with Baldurs Gate for them, and have gotten every release except Sonic and MDK2 since then.
On the topic of ME2, who's planning on going to a midnight release?

[ShadowAbarai]

I'll probably be going along with my boyfriend. I'm really excited about this game. :)

[aKiBa55]

I would go but... I can't afford it right now lol

It should be good though, a lot of folks in this town will ignore it so I will probably rent it and see if it'll be worth paying 60 bucks for. Hopefully they actually have some DLC this time around. They kinda just skipped the DLC for the first which saddened me a bit but the game is still big enough where you don't need too much.

[Sole]

I'm kind of curious, but do I need to play Mass Effect in order to understand Mass Effect 2? I've played it only once with a friend, and I was thinking of giving 2 a try.

Edit: Found my answer through some reviews.

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/14235013/mass-effect-2/videos/me2_trl_launchtrailer_12010.html

[Paragon]

You could always watch this video. Mass Effect in 5 minutes. http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/slyashell/err.gif

k5ns3lSWPs8

[Sole]

Lol that was quite a lot of information in five minutes. :oh: Thanks for the link.

[aKiBa55]

No you do not. The game contains a bit of a prologue at the beginning from what they've said, but really why would you try the second one before the first :P

Nevermind didn't read that you already know lol

[Sole]

No you do not. The game contains a bit of a prologue at the beginning from what they've said, but really why would you try the second one before the first :P

Nevermind didn't read that you already know lol

It would be reasonable for me to play the first, but the second looks to good to pass out on for a while. It'd take me a while to finish the first one too.

[aKiBa55]

Not that long, I finished almost everything and clocked under 24 hours. In fact I'm on my second play-through right now ^^ Trust me, it'll be way more enjoyable if you run through the first one and then play the second. I have a feeling even though they explain what happened it'll still be confusing, and there are a lot of good things that transfer over from one to two.

[Sole]

One of the things that are interesting is that you can transfer what you have from 1 onto 2. That option is peaking my interest. xD

[aKiBa55]

*hugs his level, Spectre class master weapons (dunno if they transfer lol) and his good old buddy Wrex.* Its worth it, trust me.

[Sole]

The reviewer mentioned something about switching over your character's behaviour patterns. http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/1...ler_12010.html

[aKiBa55]

Yeah I guess whatever you did in one as far as being nice or a bad guy, people you talked to, and characters you got to live and helped out transfer. May explain the two disks. If they do indeed let equipment transfer I'm gonna be set from the start lol And the fact that I get to have Wrex along with me is really exciting.

[Thanatyr]

The weapon use has drastically changed. Apparently there's no overheating as now it's ammo based. Also there's less items, you simply upgrade what you already have. Even the skill trees got a revamp.

In sad news, it's already been pirated and plastered on Youtube....
:cry:


Is it tuesday yet?

[aKiBa55]

No way... what the heck? Now I'm not gonna get to use my Spectre weapons >.< thats ridiculous. But, maybe it will make the game just a bit more challenging. That would be kinda nice, I'm playing on hardcore for ME1 and its really easy.

[Elarius]

IGN has their review up, doesn't show spoilers, only what the game has managed to achieve, but early reviews so far are giving this game enormous praise for its ambition and the depth it goes to explore characters, thankfully not long to wait now.

http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/14235013/mass-effect-2/videos/masseffect2_vdr_012210.html

[ismey]

im definitely gonna get ME2.....cant wait

[Paragon]

Mass Effect 2 DLC Live and Free
Preorder bonuses look to be live by mistake.

US, January 25, 2010 - If you were anxiously awaiting those nifty preorder bonuses companies were offering for Mass Effect 2, it looks like there's been an online error in your favor – nine in-game bonuses are currently on Xbox Marketplace's online site for free.

Yes, if you click on the following links and log into your Xbox Live account, you can add the free goodies to your queue and download them when you turn your Xbox 360 on and access "Active Downloads."

http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/106/1063174p1.html

Christmas just came early lol. Download now before it gets taken away!

[Thanatyr]

Damn, they're already gone.
Scratch that, I was on the XBox marketplace on the machine.

[Paragon]

Click the IGN link if you didn't. Links to the DLC is there, it all works for me.

[Thanatyr]

Yup, got them all. Of course I would have anyways, but this saves time.
Blood Dragon? Got Dragon Age coupon
Terminus? EBGames (gamestop) preorder
Collectors items? Preordered collectors
The others I think were from the cerberus card, which is in there as well

[aKiBa55]

The collector's armor added but the others didn't :/ Maybe if I turn on my 360...

[Paragon]

Well i never ordered the Collectors Edition and to be honest all i wanted from it was the cool armour and weapon so at least now i've managed to get it along with everything else without having to spend an extra amount of money.

[aKiBa55]

Crap, so far only the collector's armor worked :/ ah well thats what, five bucks I save? haha i bet I cant even use it :P

[dyne]

is this game out?

[Yexley]

Out tomorrow for you I think. Out Jan 29th for Europe.

[CakeSpoon]

Dunno about the rest of the world, but it's supposed to come out in 2 days here.

[dyne]

jan.26 just checked it

[aKiBa55]

When it does come out, hopefully people won't spoil anything.

On a side note, I found out today that if you get killed at the end of the game, Shepard will not be in Mass Effect 3. You die, you die for good. I think that aspect will be interesting. Let's see if I can keep Wrex around for Mass Effect 3 ^^

[Yexley]

Yeah, thought you got it 3 days before I get to play it.

[ShadowAbarai]

I'm really excited for this game but I plan on finishing the first one before I start playing the new one. Also I saw some free downloads (looked like armor etc) on xbox.com but it doesn't seem like they are available any longer. Have I missed out on some good content for the new game?

[Yexley]

They were pre-purchase items based on your description.

[Thanatyr]

Of all the Live downloads, only the crashsite and blood dragon armor took
Not sure why.
Back to playing!

Edit: The others are there, just not showing in the "Downloaded content"

[aKiBa55]

So far so good, the fear of the new weapons system left after the first enemy was blown in half by my pistol haha

I managed to get some extra bonuses for transferring a high character, even got 100,000 credits for being rich in the first.

[pumpkin13]

yeah can people give me some info on the save transfer operation? and starting from scratch? basically i want to know if its worth playing the old ME through again...

[Yexley]

I've been playing the old ME anyway considering it's been a while since I've played it and I want to get back into the game before the new one comes out here in England.

[ryuuga]

save file transfer info (http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Mass_Effect_2#Save_File_Transfer)

unfortunately I got the digital deluxe edition, and with my shitty connection that means that even though I started the download yesterday I wont be able to play for another 28 hours(11.6 gig file).

yeah I went back and replayed it too, made sure I had a save for the three main endings and a couple with some of the different options done.

[aKiBa55]

It is worth it believe me. It makes the start much easier to swallow, and the extra funds are helpful for the new space travel system. And starting out at a higher level isn't that bad.

[Elarius]

The only drawback i heard about this game is the planet scanning system for the reason that is a slow process, but that alone is a small problem for what seems an absolute brilliance of a game, the 96 average on metacritic seems to be telling a story of its own.

And another thing, the gametrailers site last night(GMT time) had the first hour of the game live, it must be the quickest hour i have seen, felt like 10 minutes, it was that good.

I really cant wait for friday.

[Thanatyr]

The plannet scanning is odd, but interesting. If you want full completion it's a time and money sink, basically.

[aKiBa55]

I found out some grave news this morning. Wrex will not be joining my party it seems.

He is apparently helping his clan and won't leave. If he is alive you are welcomed on the Krogan home world and get to visit, but that is about it I guess. A sad revelation, but after spending some time with Grunt, I'm not that sad. Wrex needs to be with his people. Here's to hoping he's around for ME3 right? ^^ Also, Jack is a f**king nut, but I somehow keep her level headed when I am around. I assume its something to do with my high paragon ability. And Tali grew up a sh*t ton in two years. I'm glad she found a ship to call home though.

The loss of many powers and the weapons mods is a let down, but the new weapons and customizable armor make up for it. Why do I look like the bad guy from Power Rangers when I wear my Collector's armor though lol

I also agree that scanning is tedious as heck. The new galaxy map system is a bit strange to me as well, but meh I'll get over it. Jacob is cool, Miranda is a b*tch. I really hate her, she's always so down on herself.

[Yexley]

FFFFFUUUUUUU I want to play it!! Stupid fucking Europe.

[aKiBa55]

I agree. A game this good should have been released worldwide on the same day :/

But I assume you guys will get some small bonus to make up for it, happens sometimes, but I don't know.

I want Garrus dammit! I should be seeing him soon, dunno yet was just coasting in the Citadel this morning. That place changed a lot too. You'll see when you get there, well, IF you decide to go there, it is optional.

[ryuuga]

apparently some people in the Netherlands got it the 26th, at least according tho the ME wiki (http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Mass_Effect_2#Release). Out 26th in Europe (confirmed in the Netherlands)for Euro 59.95 (Xbox 360)

[Yexley]

That's crazy expensive though. I paid £40 for the Deluxe Edition.
I'm going to check out the Citadel for sure. Can't wait to see the new characters although Garrus still better be able to be in my team, he was awesome.

[aKiBa55]

He is a recruitable member, in fact I think he may be the only returning party member from the first game. Not sure yet though, not that far. He was a good guy, hopefully he hasn't changed.

[Yexley]

So all that time putting up with that religious tard Ashley for the relationship plot was pointless lol. Well I hope Garrus hasn't changed and I doubt Bioware would disappoint.

[ryuuga]

you recruit Tali as well, and from what I've read the character you had the romance with makes an appearance.

[aKiBa55]

Aye they do but I did it with Ashley and she's gone up in service the past two years. I asked Anderson where she was and he said it was classified :/ Happens when you work for a terrorist group I guess lol

[Yexley]

haha, I really want to play it now so I can read what people put in their spoilers lol

[Elarius]

At least the Assassin's Creed 2 DLC(Sequence 12) tomorrow should kill some time while i wait for the UK release on friday.

[aKiBa55]

:cool:

Archangel is a beast, glad to have someone I recognize back on the squad. Won't reveal who they are of course, its cooler and more shocking when you find out.

[ryuuga]

well my download finally finished but I'm truly beginning to loathe EA, I've spent the past three hours trying - unsuccessfully - to work around the same misconfiguration error that plagued the dragon age release, apparently they don't consider people who download digital copies having to figure out how to get the game to function an issue.

Edit- It took five hours and 4 reinstalls trying various workarounds but I finally got it running.

[Thanatyr]

Holy hell this game is immense. I think I just lost the day in the sheer amount of story they put in.

Also:
It's true, female shepards can romance Garrus. It's actually funny for the lines they use. Appears there may also be a romance option with Thane or Jacob. I wonder if there's one for Grunt...
A testing we will go!

(My mind works in twisted and mysterious ways)

[Elarius]

If anyone ordered their copy from game, there is a very good chance you might get it today because i got my CE edition today to my suprise(will post pic because there is a few things that comes with it).

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e18/lawlord/SS100559.jpg

[Yexley]

Sweet, if only I hadn't ordered the online version that doesn't unlock yet.

Now I'm downloading it!! Just hope my laptop won't overheat but I know it will, stupid piece of shit needs fixing.

[Thanatyr]

Two things have dissapointed me so far (Don't read until you're damn far into the game)
Just got Legion, finished all that stuff then during what ever the hell it was, the IFF incident, my console froze. Got it back at that point, but missed all the cinematics.

Then, I decided I wanted to cause some Havoc on the citadel, took Legion and Jack with me. NO response to a walking talking geth IN the citadel. Riiiiiiight.

Edit (Heavy spoiler alert):
Just finished with my Paragon Adept, didn't lose anyone. Blew up the Collectors and pissed the Illusive Man off something fierce. That was a shit ton of Reapers, appeared to have different shapes and sizes. Looking forward to fighting them with the Rachni, Geth, Quarians, all of the Citadel, Alliance, Krogan. Damn, it's good to have friends.

[pumpkin13]

Pre-ordered it from amazon. Unless i'm mistaken it IS the 29th... it's 4:47pm here and it has not arrived. I am not one happy fucking bunny.

[jambi]

I found the planet scanning annoying at first but then after going back and playing the 1st ME to finish my renegade I realized it beats the holy hell out of dropping down to the planet on the MAKO and searching for the elements.

I think that's my only complaint.

The slightly revamped combat system is awesome and though they reduced the amount of weapons and abilities you have you don't feel shorted at all because the abilities you do get area all very useful. Definitely the best game I've played in a while.

[AzureFeatherfly]

Played the game, close to finishing and I must say that this has been one awesome experience so far when I am not even at the end game.

Mass Effect 2 definitely surpassed its predecessor by miles in all aspects of its gameplay. Enemy and Ally AI are both smart, tactical and will actually use strategy. Combat is incredibly intensive when people are firing left and right as opposed to ME1 where one can just bulldoze over everything. Side missions are more impressive, creative and unique as compared to ME1 where the player uses the same storm, kill, and clean up routine.

Also, building a team as you go is a lot more interesting than hunting down one rogue spectre. Each recruiting mission is like an entire story all by itself.

Now, I am just hanging out for DLCs, which I know will be just as impressive and of course Mass Effect 3.

[pumpkin13]

Have been playing it most of the afternoon. Got the prof and Garrus, currently planet scanning to build up resources to upgrade shit.

The intro segments/ story setups were perfect, the Lazarus project made sense, plus being funded by Cerberus and getting the ship... the intro movie had my jaw actually dropped, i was like NOOOOOOOO!!!! Plus by DLC blood dragon armour from DA:O looks BADASS. Pity you can't edit it in the same way you can the other armour though. Am liking that feature alot. Also having Shep walking around in the same slinky outfit (My shep's female) that Doctor Chakwas wears, its mint.

Loving it so far. Currently perched on the wreckage of a ship on a cliff after finding an anomaly planet scanning... hmmmmm....

[Elarius]

Yeah its amazing how varied the side missions are and the stories of the characters to gain your loyalty can be incredibly deep, , only thing is i am not sure if i am going to get level 30 on my first playthrough(lvl22 at this point). Seems i might depend on the 2nd playthrough which gives 25% boost on the xp gained from missions but will see i still need to do Samara's personal story, i got 5 systems unexplored, including the one which i need to get the Reaper IFF and probably after that will need to go to the omega relay.

p.s. Yeah the Blood Dragon Armour is awesome, i wish i could take the helmet off though on dialog scenes but other than that its sweet.

[pds]

The trailer seems promising but that resembles Halo a lot, really a lot!

[pumpkin13]

Oh shush PDS no it doesn't at all. Besides Halo was based on Larry Niven's Ringworld.

Actually with the new ME, I kinda get an almost Deadspace feel to it. Deadspace was freaking polished as, and this feels similar, the 5star quality literally seeps out of every pixel.

I love the armour customisation, love the new ship, love that you can buy a space hamster lol.

So far the only thing i'm disappointed with is that the Citadel isn't more extensive. For example the Presidium, which was an entire area with quite a few sub-quests in the original; the ambassadorial offices, the consorts, the financial district etc etc, has just been reduced solely to Ambassador Udina's old office. Literally just a room. But it's a small niggle compared to a whole lot of awesomeness. Off to play some more now.

Would really have liked the Collector Special Edition armour and rifle =(

[pds]

Well the game itself isn't bad at all, and the graphics look amazing, but I mean come on spaceship and stuff came from Halo first.

[Yexley]

Yeah, Bioware who did KotOR copied Halo with the spaceship stuff...

[pumpkin13]

Well the game itself isn't bad at all, and the graphics look amazing, but I mean come on spaceship and stuff came from Halo first.

Pillar of Autumn:
http://www.freewebs.com/eliteswinhalo/pillar_of_autumn.jpg

Normandy:
http://www.primotechnology.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/me_normandy2.jpg

If you were talking specifically about the Geth cruisers and the Covenant cruisers THEN i could agree there is a little similarity.
Covenant:
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/halo/images/thumb/4/40/BattleCruiser.JPG/300px-BattleCruiser.JPG

Geth:
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2007/324/reviews/930279_20071121_embed036.jpg

The original Mako (as seen in the foreground above) bares a VAGUE at best resemblance to the APC from ALIENS
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f6/Aliens_%28film%29_APC.jpg

Whereas the new shuttle craft from ME2 that replaces it bares much more similarity to the shuttles from Star Trek.

TBH Halo nicked their dropship from Aliens...
Halo:
http://th02.deviantart.net/images3/300W/i/2004/09/2/8/Halo___Pelican_Dropship.jpg

Aliens:
http://pony-hp.web.infoseek.co.jp/DROPSHIP/DROPSHIP-23.JPG

[aKiBa55]

So far so good, got Tali and have completed all of the loyalty missions besides hers. Scanning is actually really fun, got the new weapons and hull for the ship. I just met up with Conrad Verner from the first game and I'm trying to solve his stupid problems again haha. The Collector's armor is kind of stupid, I can't remove the helmet at all. The gun I can't use with my class so I have no idea if it is any good or not.

[aKiBa55]

Have been playing it most of the afternoon. Got the prof and Garrus, currently planet scanning to build up resources to upgrade shit.

The intro segments/ story setups were perfect, the Lazarus project made sense, plus being funded by Cerberus and getting the ship... the intro movie had my jaw actually dropped, i was like NOOOOOOOO!!!! Plus by DLC blood dragon armour from DA:O looks BADASS. Pity you can't edit it in the same way you can the other armour though. Am liking that feature alot. Also having Shep walking around in the same slinky outfit (My shep's female) that Doctor Chakwas wears, its mint.

Loving it so far. Currently perched on the wreckage of a ship on a cliff after finding an anomaly planet scanning... hmmmmm....

That is part of Jacob's loyalty mission right? Were you able to cool him down and keep his dad alive?

[Elarius]

Finished the game and got lvl 30 with my soldier and everyone alive, only 5 achievements left also, the obvious insanity level one and the others seem to be class specific which i will fiddle a bit at some point, but for now i started with the vanguard on insanity level which i predict quite a few deaths judging by the good AI and shielding/armour of enemies even from early on.

The experience of this game was quite immense, it took me 38 hours to finish but i did everything in the game, from scanning every planet to doing every single side quest i could find and it astounds me how much variety exists even on the 'lesser important' quests.

The other thing, considering you end up alive, is the game keeps going which is great for any future dlc releases or anything that might help with achievement accomplishments.

Overall it will take something special to beat this for GOTY, i know there is a long way to go but this has really set a benchmark for this year.

[aKiBa55]

I have like 18 hours or so in and I don't think I've even scratched the surface yet. I'm still working on loyalty missions. I'm wondering though, do they affect whether I'll get to keep them alive in the end or is that up to me when that final battle comes.

Also, everyone has the right to an opinion. Mass Effect isn't for everyone after all. Just gotta give things a chance

[pds]

Well I don't mean it is exactly trying to imitate Halo or copy it, it just bears resembles/similarity due to the setting and kinda having involvement with ships and aliens. But I never intended to discredit the work, it's awesome from what I've seen in the trailer and gameplay video.

[pumpkin13]

That is part of Jacob's loyalty mission right? Were you able to cool him down and keep his dad alive?

It wasn't actually, it was a random one i found while planetscanning, random distress beacon, hulk balanced on the edge of a cliff whilst the jacobs dad one is on the beach going out to see. There's not a hell of a lot on it, just some iridium and maybe a weapon augment or something.

I'm playing a harcore "does what needs to be done to get the mission done" femme fatale shep, black lipstick, red hair and all.
I was tempted to shoot the fucker, but left him at the hands of the mental dudes. I didnt like him trying to happytalk me when the evidence obviously pointed the other way.

Currently fighting my way through geth to get to Tali. I like the whole "stay out of the sun" with that mission but seriously by two following crew members are dumb as fuck when it comes to that. Looking forward to getting the SMG.

Atm I'm using Jack and Mordin to back me up, Jack's biotics are useful, as are her warp ammo when you unlock it, and Mordin and myself (being an Engineer) can tear shit up with our incineration and cryo attacks. And the drone is useful for distracting enemies or forcing them out of cover.

@AK: From what i've heard, if you complete a characters loyalty mission, it means they will survive. Which instantly merits a replay where you DONT do any of their loyalty missions to see them all die! lol

Also, what are people's favourite heavy weapons? I THINK there are four in total, cus thats all there is space for on the table in the armoury, personally i prefer the grenade launcher, although the collector beam weapon is good for using against collectors. the rocket launcher is irritating as sometimes the rockets veer off and heatseak other targets than what you were aiming at, and i have cry powers myself as an engineer which kinda makes the avalanche redundant.

[aKiBa55]

Thanks for clearing the air again pumpkin ^^ I personally like the Collector heavy laser thing. Frying mechs is always fun ^^ My whole team should survive I hope but we shall see.

[ryuuga]

There are actually 5 heavy weapons, 6 if you have the zaeed DLC, and 7 if you pre-ordered from gamestop. my personal favorite would be the homing missile launcher, due to its high rate of fire and relatively high ammo capacity. and having a characters loyalty doesn't guarantee their survival, I had all loyalties and still lost tali and zaeed.

[dyne]

this game is boring. first off you can't jump which is annoying as hell. then the graphics are amazing at one part and the next they're crap. why this game is rated mature baffles me.. some guy gets shot in the neck point blank and they just show some blood spray no wound or anything on his neck.. pretty lame. the dialogue is mad boring literally put me to sleep after hours of talking to people i'd had enough and just went to sleep and it was 1pm..

all this game did was make me want to play too human which mass effect just ripped its main character plot from.

[dyne]

all i can say is wtf this guy "shephard" is genetically modified and yet he gets tired of running after 10 fucking feet. then you can't run again for another like 10 seconds all you hear is him panting..

[Yexley]

Yeah that was annoying in the first game too. And stupid laptop can play ME2 for like 15 - 30 mins before crashing, srsly need to get it fixed.

[aKiBa55]

Actually he wasn't modified at all. If you paid attention to the story the Illusive Man wanted him to be pretty much the same as before. Also, Mass Effect came out before Too Human so your argument is false. That being said, yes the fact that you get tired after running ten feet is stupid, but he's been dead for two damn years I'm surprised he can even stand let alone run and gun.

[dyne]

Actually he wasn't modified at all. If you paid attention to the story the Illusive Man wanted him to be pretty much the same as before. Also, Mass Effect came out before Too Human so your argument is false. That being said, yes the fact that you get tired after running ten feet is stupid, but he's been dead for two damn years I'm surprised he can even stand let alone run and gun.

you die in the first 5 mins of the game and they rebuild you improving you. the stupid slut at the start says right to you i'm great because i was genetically engineered you were great before you were genetically engineered.

again i think you need to put the pipe down and read what you're actually saying mass effect 2 just came out, who knew! saying the story of the main character is similar to too human in mass effect 2, key word being 2, that they even look the same with the lighted scaring on their faces is not false too human came out in 2008 and i never got bored of too human in fact its a great game.
http://www.cheatmasters.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/too_human_cover.jpg

90% of this game is like watching paint dry only thing that keeps me going is killing people every couple of hours, if i'm lucky.

[pumpkin13]

they dont look the same if you're playing a female shepard.

Miranda was genetically engineered you are biomechanically improved. Gentically stabilised but biomechanically improved, you even see them screwing microchips and shit into muscle tissue in one of the opening movies.

And why the fuck would you need to jump? It would be pointless, cus there's nothing you need to jump for.

Everyone's allowed their own opinion I guess, even if it's retarded.

What do people think, Samara vs. Jack as the teams biotic, and who would people choose for their Tech specialist?

[aKiBa55]

I chose Jack for my biotic and Legion for my tech expert. Both made it. Mordin however... well he gave his life for humanity. The game has a good ending, however I am sad he died on me :/ Should have let him take the crew back instead of Grunt, but ah well.

[dyne]

why the fuck would you need to jump? um lets see o thats right to jump up onto shit jesus you're an idiot.

[pumpkin13]

and you didn't notice the vault ability? That lets you vault onto and over shit? Jesus.

[aKiBa55]

Jumping in an RPG? Who would want that. It would defeat the purpose of tactics, I could just jump over rockets all day

[dyne]

yea that's fucking gay and annoying, every time you want to get over a ledge or crate you have to run up to it lean on it then climb up it. plus you can jump when people are shooting at you so you dont get hit..

[dyne]

Jumping in an RPG? Who would want that. It would defeat the purpose of tactics, I could just jump over rockets all day

yea that's b.c they made the rockets come towards you at 5km/h

[aKiBa55]

Then you take away the point of shields. You'd just jump all damn day, that would be stupid. Just shoot the rocket before it gets to you, or use cover. Jumping, pfft. Name the last good RPG that lets you jump.

On the note of Too Human, I haven't played it, but Shepard came around in 2007 and looks almost the same besides the slight scaring from whatever they put in him. He came first, and Mass Effect is way better than Too Human I'm sure.

[dyne]

um no you don't practically every game that comes out you have sheilds and you can jump in all those

[aKiBa55]

Now you're broadening the argument. Stick to the point, don't drag other sh#t games into the fray. Mass Effect doesn't need jumping, if you are that bad you can't play a game without a jump button that is a personal issue really. Don't tear down a game because it has a jump flaw. The good definitely outweighs the bad and believe me there are bad things about it.

[dyne]

borderlands, fallout pretty sure you can in bioshock aswell

Now you're broadening the argument. Stick to the point, don't drag other sh#t games into the fray. Mass Effect doesn't need jumping, if you are that bad you can't play a game without a jump button that is a personal issue really. Don't tear down a game because it has a jump flaw. The good definitely outweighs the bad and believe me there are bad things about it.
what good the game is garbage

[aKiBa55]

Okay, Borderlands I haven't played yet, Fallout isn't good at all, and Bioshock isn't even an RPG.

I disagree. If you actually pay attention it has a miraculous story and very deep characters.

[pumpkin13]

yea that's fucking gay and annoying, every time you want to get over a ledge or crate you have to run up to it lean on it then climb up it. plus you can jump when people are shooting at you so you dont get hit..

if you're running towards it and double tap space (or whatever the xbox equivalent is) you dont have to pause to lean up against it.

Yeah... jumping to avoid getting shot. Or you could take cover. You're blowing off a game because it bares similarities to another game and because you can't jump? lol.

[dyne]

how isn't bioshock an rpg? you level up your skills/weapons as you play. depening on how you talk to certain people determines how you finish the game, there's multiple different endings depending how you play the game... that's an rpg

[aKiBa55]

False, every game has that now. You gain no experience from kills, you don't get millions of customizations, it isnt over 25 hours long. There is not world map, you only have one character. If that is an RPG than I missed a meeting

Its a good game, but doesnt classify as an RPG. Now if you have said System Shock or Deus Ex...

[dyne]

yea why don't you go ahead and mention a game that's like that then? that's not an rpg

[aKiBa55]

I dont understand the question care to clarify so I can destroy you? hehe

[dyne]

you can't understand it because you're a retard

[aKiBa55]

Now we're insulting peoples intelligence? This is VERY productive. Back to the discussion of Mass Effect, what did you who have finished it think of the ending.

[Elarius]

I decided to ditch the elusive man's suggestion to keep the collector technology and just destroy it which basically pissed him off and it seems that cerberus will be one of the enemies in the 3rd installment with that decision, at least the team thinks it was a good decision. As for the human reaper i thought it was a bit too easy of a fight but cool concept though plus the army of reaper vessels marching was brilliant.

[Thanatyr]

Paragon ending was funny, I'll let you know about my Renegade's ending when I get him out of ME1 (Feros and Virmire left for him)
Can't wait to see the differences in the two play throughs.

[Vyraeil]

I dont understand the question care to clarify so I can destroy you? hehe

Now we're insulting peoples intelligence? This is VERY productive.

Dude... don't do this. This is a bad move.

Anyway. I was pretty happy with the game. I would have preferred a jump feature, but it feels more 'Black Ops' without the Borderlands-esque crazy jumping during combat, I suppose. I love the characters and story, as I do with most Bioware games, and how extensive the dialogue is.
It's a heavy game, without a doubt, and you'll need time and patience to get the full experience. Some people just don't like long games, or long dialogue as it were. I do, but that's because I don't have a life to conflict with it.
My reckoning is that it's pretty much the same deal as most other Bioware games: It's got plot and characters, but at the sacrifice of gameplay and action. That would probably begin to piss me off if I didn't have a few fine FPS' sitting around for interim carnage... and Borderlands.
All in all, a pretty cool game; despite the fact that the only female party member with a hot voice in this one is Tali... and she has that fucking mask.

[CakeSpoon]

On the note of Too Human, I haven't played it, ....... and Mass Effect is way better than Too Human I'm sure.

You lost all credibility right there. Now you've just announced yourself as a massive fanboy with no legitimate argument. I myself haven't played ME2, but I'm playing ME1 right now & unless they completely change the game, parts of it suck monkey nuts. It's still a good game but Too Human is FAR more consistent, which is probably just edging out ME1, maybe ME2 is better I don't know, I'll find out when I finish this one.

Edit: Lol, I forgot the reason I came here in the first place. Does ME2 have more or less talking than ME1? And does the autosave still suck balls?

These may effect whether I get the game now, or sometime in the future.

[dyne]

You lost all credibility right there. Now you've just announced yourself as a massive fanboy with no legitimate argument. I myself haven't played ME2, but I'm playing ME1 right now & unless they completely change the game, parts of it suck monkey nuts. It's still a good game but Too Human is FAR more consistent, which is probably just edging out ME1, maybe ME2 is better I don't know, I'll find out when I finish this one.

Edit: Lol, I forgot the reason I came here in the first place. Does ME2 have more or less talking than ME1? And does the autosave still suck balls?

These may effect whether I get the game now, or sometime in the future.


dude i played me1 for like 5 hours and never turned it back on b.c it was so damn boring this game is the EXACT same. its 90% runing around or doing useless shit like scanning planets for an hour for materials to improve your weapons, armor and ship.

this kid is just an idiot too human is way better than this crap not to mention its co-op as well.

every game i mention this kid hasnt even played...and yet he seems to have already formed an opinion on why mass effect is better. not to mention he can't even answer a simple question like name one other game that is similar to bioshock and isn't considered an rpg.

[aKiBa55]

I also ended up ditching Cerberus. If they are indeed an enemy I can't wait to plant my fist in the Illusive Man's face. Guy was a douche the whole damn time. Now as for a case in which Shepard dies, are they planning on making a new character all together for 3 in that instance? That is what I got from some of the comments I've seen around but I dunno yet. Wouldn't be that hard to do for them imo but who knows really. The human Reaper was indeed interesting but it reminded me a lot of a Terminator. Not a bad thing but for some it will be. The mass of Reapers at the very last scene got me really pumped up for ME3. The end theme wasn't as good as the first game's theme however, but it worked well enough.

Auto save still sucks balls and there is WAY more talking in ME2 so I dunno if you'll like it much cake. As for combat flow its way better, but certain things irked me like no weapons mods and such.

As for games similar in style to Bioshock there aren't any, its original in its designed. Well maybe System Shock the game that Bioshock is a spiritual predecessor for, but who knows really. No one said that it was bad, in fact it is one of the best games of all time. If anything I would say Deus Ex, came out for PC in 2001 or so. I just don't consider it an RPG having played a lot of them. As for Too Human, I honestly haven't played it, but now that I'm out of games to play I'll probably try it out. You say it has co-op perhaps we can play together and you can give me some pointers. It seems a big massive for an RPG and that always scares the crap out of me.

@Vy that is because she can't live without the suit lol You can romance with her and she removes it, but of course they obstruct the players view from seeing her hehe I ended up with Jack and she cried. That was depressing :/

[Elarius]

Yeah a new character will replace him because sometimes on the loading screen when it gives various info about the game it will say that if shepard dies on this he will not be on the 3rd. As for something else which you mentioned a couple of pages ago or something i think the loyalty missions for the team members, the more you do, the more of a chance Shepard will make it alive and with the most/whole of the team also.

Btw, if people dont like the game fair enough anyways, my best mate didn't like it because he also prefers jumping in games and my big brother did not find the concept interesting and decided to play fallout 3 instead so i dont hold it against people that cant stand this, i am happy with it anyways and its fanbase is massive enough as it is, there are a few decent games around the corner anyways with Bioshock 2, Dante's Inferno coming out and the risky Heavy Rain(well for PS3 owners anyways).

[aKiBa55]

Yeah a new character will replace him because sometimes on the loading screen when it gives various info about the game it will say that if shepard dies on this he will not be on the 3rd. As for something else which you mentioned a couple of pages ago or something i think the loyalty missions for the team members, the more you do, the more of a chance Shepard will make it alive and with the most/whole of the team also.

Btw, if people dont like the game fair enough anyways, my best mate didn't like it because he also prefers jumping in games and my big brother did not find the concept interesting and decided to play fallout 3 instead so i dont hold it against people that cant stand this, i am happy with it anyways and its fanbase is massive enough as it is, there are a few decent games around the corner anyways with Bioshock 2, Dante's Inferno coming out and the risky Heavy Rain(well for PS3 owners anyways).

Yeah I guess thats probably it since Mordin died. Overall I'm kind of glad i lost one person, it always makes me remember what I'm up against and who I'm gonna have to take down to survive. And it makes my character more defined, losing a friend. At least in my opinion.

[elstevo91]

Dude... don't do this. This is a bad move.

Anyway. I was pretty happy with the game. I would have preferred a jump feature, but it feels more 'Black Ops' without the Borderlands-esque crazy jumping during combat, I suppose. I love the characters and story, as I do with most Bioware games, and how extensive the dialogue is.
It's a heavy game, without a doubt, and you'll need time and patience to get the full experience. Some people just don't like long games, or long dialogue as it were. I do, but that's because I don't have a life to conflict with it.
My reckoning is that it's pretty much the same deal as most other Bioware games: It's got plot and characters, but at the sacrifice of gameplay and action. That would probably begin to piss me off if I didn't have a few fine FPS' sitting around for interim carnage... and Borderlands.
All in all, a pretty cool game; despite the fact that the only female party member with a hot voice in this one is Tali... and she has that fucking mask.

It also sucks that after all the time you spend romancing her u still don't get to see her face in the fucking sex scene! Overall I loved this game especially the improved shooting and random funny dialog "I enjoy seeing humans on there knees". Mordin and Zaeed will be missed.

[Vyraeil]

@Vy that is because she can't live without the suit lol You can romance with her and she removes it, but of course they obstruct the players view from seeing her hehe I ended up with Jack and she cried. That was depressing :/

I have actually played this game, so I know about the quarian immune system thing, just to clarify. Tali's the only woman worth romancing with, because the others are wierd or corporate. Methinks baldness is a colossal turn-off. Like, in a big way.

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It also sucks that after all the time you spend romancing her u still don't get to see her face in the fucking sex scene! Overall I loved this game especially the improved shooting and random funny dialog "I enjoy seeing humans on there knees". Mordin and Zaeed will be missed.

I know! What's up with that!? I bet they just can't render a face hot enough to fit with that voice using today's graphics engines. That must be it. :tongue:

[pumpkin13]

I romanced Garrus. That was lulz. "I'll er... just go and do some research on how it's supposed to work..."

Currently trying to romance Chambers, need the biggest fish for the tank in the game, but can't find it, any suggestions?

Legion died. Which i didn't like cus actually i thought he was one of the cooler members of the team. Especially with the Widowmaker sniper cannon upgrade.

I still think my best team, certainly the one i used for the larger portion of the game was Jack, Mordin and Engineer me. Jack would rip through them with biotics and blast them back if they got too close whilst Mordin and I incinerate and freeze our way through them doubletime. Once I got the Justicar's Reave power though that pretty much completed it, Biotic barriers were the only thing i had even vague trouble with and it does double damage against them. Poor boss collector dude had to keep respawning cus we took him out practically before he even touched the ground.

But yeah, must have done something wrong on Legion's personal mission. His alternative costume is waaaaaay better too.

Couldn't help but feel i was fighting a giant terminator at the end though...

And now I have a massive urge to go play DeadSpace.

[dyne]

i like it when humans are on their knees (A.I. on your ship, lol)

[Viron]

Eh, I romanced Tali with Black Shepherd, and pretty much won the game. But the game pulled some serious bitch moves to keep me from getting my achievements. 1. it killed Jack in a effing cut scene (Should have invested in that hull thing), not that I liked Jack (I didn't even do her loyalty mission and it is one of the easier ones to complete). 2. It killed Mordin because Collector sabotage their doors with maple syrup (BOOM HEADSHOT). 3. This is what upset me the most and probably the biggest bitch move I've seen in any RPG, it killed Garrus because I listened to the goddamned dialogue. I mean I was like "NO. NO. NO. NO. NO FUCKING WAY! FUCK FUCK FUCK GOOOOOOODDAMMIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" He was picked up and carried away by bugs. I was so sure that the game was fucking with me and I would find him later. But no. He was dead forever. And I was tearing a chair in half with one hand and throwing it down a 70-story elevator shaft. After that I was so emotionally numbed when Zaeed died in the next goddamn cut scene I was just like Johnny Rico from Starship Troopers (KILL EM ALL). So me Tali and Legion fucked up their shit with the fury of every Viking god except for that queer one (Loki=Tingle that whore elf from zelda).


Now second play through gonna mess em up good.


EDIT: what is with the side discussion on Too Human? I mean I've played Too Human and I hated it but what is with this guy saying it's worse than ME without playing it. Come on man, I don't talk shit about MMORPGs or puzzle games or the second half of Half Life 2 because I haven't played those. I can't say their bad just because it makes me feel better (well I can but it makes me look like an asshole). Redact your post go rent it, then cohesively post what you think about it in the proper forum.

Thank you for being reasonable, even if it was the minimum.

[ulysses]

i used garrus as fire team 1 and 2, jack the biotic, legion the tech and jacob the escort.
had samara and thane on my soldier team, and i got through unscathed.

how did you manage to off garrus?

[dyne]

everyone survived until i got to the collector base then legion died while shutting the doors after it got jammed and then after that zaeed died... which i should of chosen grunt but legion already died so i knew i wasn't getting the achievement

[aKiBa55]

i like it when humans are on their knees (A.I. on your ship, lol)

That was an interesting scene, playing as Joker was fun lol "Shit shit shit shit shit." "What the shit?"

[ulysses]

this game is pretty tight, might play it again.

or bioshock 2.

[pumpkin13]

All the hologrophy made me really want to play Dead Space again. So i am. And yes, Dead Space is STILL proving itself to be amazing even after all the time its been out.

[Paragon]

Finally completed this awesome game. Everyone survived including my Shepard, i guess my decision making was spot on. :D Achievements in this game are way easier to obtain than in the first Mass Effect. Almost got them all except like five in one playthrough.

[Grimmjow_san]

I just finished up my run through on insanity. Holy shit this was quite the challenge but i feel like I accomplished something. I've played through it like 4 times already (been sick for the past few days.) I romanced Garrus, who was pretty much the most entertaining, Tali, Jack, and Miranda. I've gotten basically all the achievements except for like 5 of them little tedious ones. Also I made it through the suicide mission my first time with no one dying, Legion on tech, Garrus team leader on both instances, Samara biotic barrier, and Thane as the escort, I used the mixture each time and it didn't fail me once. I think if you're having some problems with keeping people alive just make sure your weapons are mostly upgraded I think that plays a big factor into it.

But did anyone else find the end battle to be a bit disappointing? Two shots with Cain and that thing was basically dead, and yeah i felt like I was fighting a terminator the whole time.

[aKiBa55]

It was hard, what are you on lol that final battle took me like five minutes dude. However I didn't have Cain or any ammo to speak of so that could be why hehe I hear insanity is really easy I might try again in the near future and see if I can do it.

[Hayate]

Insanity is a pain in the ass just because you can't stay out of cover long, that and the reduced damage make boss fights take forever and a day.

[Grimmjow_san]

Well if you have cain basically any boss fight can be over in less than a minute =P and insanity was a real pain in the ass, but I feel like a better man for beating it, I feel accomplished.

[Elarius]

I think insanity is also dependant on the class, the sentinel for example once it gets upgraded a bit is probably the best class to play for survival but also the fact that it has warp,overload and cryo blast, and counting the geth shield boost choice, the tech armour can take quite a beating which allows to take some risks and survive enemies that like to come up close. Before that i tried the vanguard slightly but it was absolute hell to get into grips with in that setting.

I am almost done with it, its the only achievement i got left and definately is challenging and in some ways quite a fun approach instead of going gun crazy, some parts take a few tries to go through because of the crazy nature on the way they are built on but still a decent challenge.

[CakeSpoon]

I just finished it. I dunno why but the doctor dude died which I kinda like actually, tbh I was hoping Jack would die too. lol.

As long as Garrus, Legion, Thane & Tali lived I would have been happy with any result.

[Grimmjow_san]

Well Mordin doesn't have to die, you must not have upgraded something, or didn't have his loyalty. IK went through the game a few times and I've never had anyone die.

[Vyraeil]

I wouldn't really mind if I lost Mordin, Grunt, Samara, Miranda or Jack. So far, I've managed to avoid losing anyone bar Mordin and Jack, I think...
Legion is awesome-sauce, but I can't never really find a use for him... not one that either I or my teammates can readily fill. Bearing in mind that I always have Tali, no matter the fuck what is going on.
Thane is so bone-chillingly win that I would never forgive myself letting him die. That scene in his personal mission where he just vanishes into the crowd made me orgasm out of my eyes. Seriously.
Garrus is the only turian I've got, and turians look really good in armour. Plus his snipage is fairly useful, I usually have him along with Tali. You know, bringin' the old gang back together and shit.
Tali is Tali. I must have mah Tali. Even if the combat drone is shithouse, and AI hacking is only useful once in every three whole missions, and overload seems to be fucking universal these days... she still mah Tali. :worried:

[CakeSpoon]

I saved at the start of the mission, so I'll try it again & see if I can get some certain characters to die, i.e. Mordin, Jack, Jacob & Miranda. I'm kinda half & half about Grunt, I liked him much more than Wrex, but meh, not my kind of character.

[Grimmjow_san]

Well in the end it's pretty easy to make sure everyone lives, you just got to use your common sense and you'll do fine.

I know what you mean man, I love me some Tali :D I'd be super sad if she died.

[ismey]

i saved everyone except jack cos she was not loyal....lost her loyalty cos of the fight with miranda..........i needed to get paragon points higher.

[Viron]

Whoever is in the tube (ie Liegon or Tali) will die unless you have Miranda or Garrus or Jacob as the fireteam leader. Mordin can't do it for some reason.
Jack or Samara on Biotics and Miranda on guitar. With Jacob doing back-up vocals.

The only one I want to die is Jack. I hate her.

I fucked up though on the Xbox I was rushing through dialouge and I sent my crew with no escort on accident, *SIGH* now I have to beat it AGAIN and un-fuck myself, unless I don't in which imma gonna just have to enjoy an empty ship.

[Grimmjow_san]

Well if you have high enough paragon or renegade points on the Jack and Miranda fight you can keep both of them loyal to you.

[Vyraeil]

The only one I want to die is Jack. I hate her.

I fucked up though on the Xbox I was rushing through dialouge and I sent my crew with no escort on accident, *SIGH* now I have to beat it AGAIN and un-fuck myself, unless I don't in which imma gonna just have to enjoy an empty ship.

I hear you, brutha.

You don't skip dialogue on a Bioware game! It's just not done! But seriously though, you should do it again, un-fuck-style. Empty ships are no fun, and there's no Tali. There is no Mass Effect without Tali. This is fact.

[Viron]

I hear you, brutha.

You don't skip dialogue on a Bioware game! It's just not done! But seriously though, you should do it again, un-fuck-style. Empty ships are no fun, and there's no Tali. There is no Mass Effect without Tali. This is fact.

no she's still there. I was just raging though cause I thought it was gonna fuck up my achievments ( it doesn't). Personally I liked that playthrough the most (aside from the whole crew dying from nothing) because I took Leigon on the Migrant Fleet and they RAGE'd so hard, lulz were had.

[CakeSpoon]

I was curious as to why Mordin died, so I looked around & apparently he can just die for no reason. The only way to guarantee that he'll live is to have him escort the crew back to the Normandy. He's by far the most useless member of the team.

Now I have to decide whether I want to play it again for the achievable or not.

[dyne]

he never died with me although 2 other members died not including the dumbass doctor i just let die

[CakeSpoon]

I just did it again, picking the exact same teams, but sending Mordin with the crew & everyone suvived.

[dyne]

yea i picked him to stay with the crew while i fought the reaper and he surived he was never with me the entire time

[Grimmjow_san]

Huh that's weird that he can die for no reason, guess I just got lucky on all of my run throughs =P

[ismey]

lol i imported shepard and have everyones loyalty......hopefully this time everyone will live.

[Vyraeil]

So I did the suicide mission again and lost Legion and Jack. I could have sworn that I had done everything to prevent Legion from dying... but Jack died exactly as I had planned. But I ended up giving everyone different roles to play. Like putting Samara on biotics instead of Jack. Holy crap on a tweezer, Samara is awesome when she wins that section.
Just like always however, I did not risk mah Tali. She stayed with me the whole way through.

[Grimmjow_san]

How did Legion die?

[Vyraeil]

I put him in the tunnel like I usually do, but this time he took a rocket laucher to the face. His last words were 'Critical Error'. It was really quite distressing. After that I started doing everything differently.
Coulda sworn I had his loyalty...

[Rufix]

@Vyraeil, same happened to me and Tali, tho she was loyal... maybe case of romance with Miranda and her at once?;>

In last mission, I used hmm... Tali as engineer, Samara as shielder, didn't rescue crew, took Garrus (this guy is great :D) and Samara to fight Reaper.

As for leaders of fire teams: Miranda (strangely she didn't die despite lack of loyalty (quarrel about Jack:P)), then Garrus and in the end Thane... Only Tali died... gonna try again letting no one die, I'm halfway already^^

Edit: Samara really does win shielding part:D

[Thanatyr]

I wonder how well Morinth will do on shielding... guess I'll find out on my Renegade.

[Grimmjow_san]

Morinth and Samara pretty much do the same on shielding I'd guess. But yeah I'm not totally sure.

[Vyraeil]

@Vyraeil, same happened to me and Tali, tho she was loyal... maybe case of romance with Miranda and her at once?;>


Tali... died? :cry:
I refuse to believe this heresy. :yelling:

But seriously though, I'm pretty sure that my male Shepard wasn't in any kind of conflicting relationships involving Legion.... because that would have been taking wierd to a whole different level of not-cool.
Hmmmm. What could it be?

[Rufix]

Did ya finish his loyalty quest? Maybe ya finished it bad way? I mean how did ya do Tali quest? Did ya lie, or tell Admirals bout her father's work?:P Maybe ya destroyed geths 'stead of reprogramming?

[Grimmjow_san]

No what you do to the geth doesn't affect legion surviving, how did you handle the confrontation between Legion and Tali?

[Rufix]

Hmm, Paragon way, I told both of them to tone down;P and try to understand each other, both seemed happy and both stayed loyal