Bleach 347 Discussion

[Lune]

Discuss the chapter here from the early spoilers. :smile:

[Lnrd]

That spoiler seems fake to me.

[Lune]

It's not as obviously fake as that supposed scan of a page someone put up on DA last week, and it's not staggeringly early either.

I'm in a 'not sure' state about the spoiler's legitemicy at the moment.

[Nocturne' Ichigo]

that would be weird if Ulq. has a further release.....

If they completed release is more human...i'll be happier....if its battier then i'll be upset :amused:

[arthur11]

meh its boring if true.

[Heller]

I dont really see a reason to complain, you really thought that a VL will have the same release as adjuchas? And I think its pretty obvious that he is one from the start of HM arch. All the people who finds proofs hes not are just too much into it. Bleach is not that complicated.

[yuidiot]

a whole chapter dedicated to ulq claiming he's superior than ichigo and can and will beat the shit out of him, really? is that really necessary?

[fifenfk]

Man i wana see how ichigo pulls off this win cuz if he gona lay ulquiorra to rest he'd had better do it in style cuz ploktkai is gona kill off my love for bleach if it goes that way.Right now ichigo is having his ass handed to him.

[justin43]

The spoiler almost seem true to me except for the second form. Now, I am in the "unsure" mode.

[xPyrox]

a whole chapter dedicated to ulq claiming he's superior than ichigo and can and will beat the shit out of him, really? is that really necessary?

Basically seconded.

[Yadomaru]

Basically seconded.
Thirded.
I mean, it's not like there's anything in there that hasn't already been amply demonstrated.

[justin43]

If it is indeed true, that Ulquiorra has a secondary release or a true release(more likely), then Shunshi is really screwed against Stark. The more powerful Ulquiorra becomes, the less likely that any captain will win their fight against the top 3 espada.

[Ulquiorra Schiffer]

If its true, Hitsugays tiny chance of winning disappeared, then ima a happy man.

[Slickz0r]

The one who released the naruto spoilers is the same guy, so the source seems far more legit than earlier presumed. I wouldn't actually be that surprised either, if the VL Arrancars have a "full" or "2nd" release. That would account for Ichigo needing more than some random resolve or sum shit like that to win.

[NAM1011]

No. This would be pretty shitty if he has a second release. I am with Nocturne Ichigo, if Ulq turns more into a bat that will be stupid as all hell. I hope this spoiler is fake.

[Terabane]

Ichigo can still win with the whole "Ulquiorra stated at his peak he was stronger than him", so it shouldn't be much of a suprise if he randomly taps into his potential and wins.

[justin43]

Or Ulquiorra's true release can make him more human for all we know. We need pics before jumping into conclusions.

Edit: Hitsugaya's chance of winning died when Ulquiorra went level 2 unreleased mode against Bankai Ichigo.:lol:

[NAM1011]

This is true. However, I still think that is horribly stupid. One cuz why would they have two releases? For what reason is that necessary. Also, second reason would be cause then technically a BE member Fatstogey would be correct. We could consider this a Bankai of sorts for the top 4. I do not want him to be right hahaha = P

[HipHopShinigami]

If its true, Hitsugays tiny chance of winning disappeared, then ima a happy man.


Hitsu didnt stand a chance to begin with, since he struggled against Luppi...his bankai was broken in her unreleased form.....

[BuddhaOmega]

Well if the rumors are true the poster who suggested a while back that Ulquiorra would pull the Frieza move and "power up" to a new form deserves some rep.

I'm just hoping Ulquiorra looks more human as it goes on (emo though he may be) and Ichigo becomes more hollow.

[dynamo]

Hah, I told you lot that his current released state probably wasn't his full power. But even if Ichigo goes to his inner world and gets another boost, how will he eclipse an even more advanced form of an enemy that he can't beat the current form of? What kind of broken powerup does KT possibly have in mind to get Ichigo out of this one? :s

[NAM1011]

Um, when Ulq himself says at the highest fluctuation of Ichigo's power aka when Hichigo was fully using all of his hollow powers, tat Ichigo is stronger than himself. Why would Ulq lie? It would also explain as to why Ulq keeps trying to prove to himself that he is 100% stronger than Ichigo.

[Whyte Bler 000]

a whole chapter dedicated to ulq claiming he's superior than ichigo and can and will beat the shit out of him, really? is that really necessary?

well, thats pretty much been every chapter ulquiorra has been in except when ichigo first pulled out his mask a few weeks ago.

as for him having a second release. it may make sense if you look at it like this. All of your seated or numbered shinigami have one release. Where as your captain level shinigami have an additional release. So following bleach logic, a captain level arrancar could have a second release. What it is, or what it does is beyond me. Maybe he goes back to his original VL form. Full mask, no white dress, etc.

But it does make you wonder, because Shunsui's power when he does his initial release would have to be on par or better than Stark's initial release. If it isn't than the captains may in fact lose the battle. I would personally hate to see shunsui lose his first real battle though.

[RYUJINN-JACK]

I dont know why it's so unbelievable Ulquiorra has more than one stage of release. Take it for what it is, we've never seen an arrancar with Uli's kind of power, so were still learning.


But really.. this chapter is looking so redundant. We already knew Ichigo was out classed... whats the point in this broken record repeating itself?

[plotkaislayer]

^----Don't speak for all of us, Ryujinn-Jack. I recall several posters like me remaining skeptical of Ulq. Plus, Ichigo seemed only intimidated upon the initial release, in my opinion. Ulq. is trying to capitalize on that with full release and ending the fight quickly. The last thing Ulq. needs is a prolonged fight against Ichigo, who seems to grow more powerful as he gets comfortable against his opponents.

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Original post:

Haha.. a lot of the initial dissatisfaction reminds me of Capt. Abarai's comment that negative reactions on BE are more out of having predictions disproved than out of displeasure with the story. I say this because I was initially bothered by the idea of the "second release" until I figured that this is confirmation of Ulq. being a Vasto Lorde.

We talked about this in a few threads: that KT would have to introduce the Vasto Lorde's in a way beyond, "oh btw im a vasto lorde lol." I think we have that here, if the spoilers prove true. I've been an Ulq. skeptic all along, from the strength of his abilities to his status as a VL. If these spoilers hold up and the chapter goes the way I imagine it, then I might convert to the other side. If VLs get a second release, then I can certainly understand why Aizen seems so comfortable in Yama's fire prison. After all, the captains that remain after the defeat of the top 3 Espada will likely be spent. And the Vice Captains will be grease spots.

As for Ichigo, you guys hate him so much! The guy tanked the cero oscura with just losing some mask. You got to respect that, even if you're too busy rooting for the anti-hero (for reasons beyond my comprehension).

So much for these chapters being "so predictable."

[Captain Abarai]

HAHA

Both of my predictions were shot down straight to hell. But hey, I'm not bitchin'. No attachment. Not my Manga.

You gotta remember. This is Ichigo's ultimate form Mask n Bankai. He SHOULD be able to take a released Espada's Cero because eventually Ichigo WILL have to get *released Espada Power* to deal with ever increasing enemies. Ichigo is lacking in ATTACK POWER in battle, not defense vs attacks. Bankai being a compression of his reiatsu, I wouldn't be surprised if the guy can simply take more damage.

Well looking at the prediction thread and what's really going down in the manga.. heh, Kubo just don't think like us. For good or bad, just go along for the ride.

[dynamo]

Um, when Ulq himself says at the highest fluctuation of Ichigo's power aka when Hichigo was fully using all of his hollow powers, tat Ichigo is stronger than himself. Why would Ulq lie? It would also explain as to why Ulq keeps trying to prove to himself that he is 100% stronger than Ichigo.

Can you use quotes next time, please? I can't confirm who exactly you're responding to =/ If you're talking to me, I think you misunderstood. what I'm trying to say is that Ichigo needs a humongous boost in power to beat released released (>_>) Ulq, and I'm asking what exactly could happen to give Ichigo so much more power. I think I'll edit my post to make that clearer, actually...

[Sensui]

If this is a TRUE second release, a Arrancar Bankai if you will, than it does not bode well for the captains in FK. This would be the way they get the royal guard involved in the story I would say. Though I was skeptical about the idea of the VLs having a secondary release... the more I think about it now the more it makes sense and Props to the guy who originally came up with that thread on where everyone just shot him down. I think it was captain abarai but I don't recall at the moment.

Edit: Also at this point we may want to consider the Idea that Ichigo will loose here and Face Ulq one last time before he faces Aizen. Maybe that pattern for Ichigo's big fights will hold up.... Ass Kicked -> Does better but gets rescued -> Wins!

I still think Unohana may have to get involved if this is AB thing is true...

[xPyrox]

If ichigo loses here. He dies.
Thats all there really is to it. Its a shame ... all I can see from here on out is endless fights and not much story.

[Sensui]

If ichigo loses here. He dies.
Thats all there really is to it. Its a shame ... all I can see from here on out is endless fights and not much story.

Yeah but this sort of thing does happen a lot in mangas and animes. The good guy dies fighting and than is brought back even stronger.

Yu Yu Hakusho is the best example of this where Yusuke is actually killed by Sensui and than comes back stronger because while in death it allowed his demon blood to come out and thus lend him demonic powers.

Something similar may happen here. Ichigo may get killed... and while laying there dead he may get dragged back inside to face his hollow one last time and gain the full control of himself that he finally needs to actually control his power fluctuations.

[easY]

We've already seen an arrancar with two releases, it was just fodder but meh.

[Xenofear]

^^true. Vega had a "second" and I think Allon was trying to get a frieza power in one arm.

[GOWSRB]

If it is indeed true, that Ulquiorra has a secondary release or a true release(more likely), then Shunshi is really screwed against Stark. The more powerful Ulquiorra becomes, the less likely that any captain will win their fight against the top 3 espada.

How does it look bad for Shunsui exactly? Remember Bankai Ichigo was fighting against unreleased Ulquiorra. Unreleased Shunsui is fighting against Unreleased Stark, and as far as we've seen they were pretty much at a stalemate. That means both still have releases to use. And both Stark has already acknowledged Shunsui's strength and vice versa. THey both basically realize that theirs is going to be a close fight.

[Stri]

What makes it more hilarious is the fact that we have yet to get an actual view of where Shunsui actually stands. Just ignore baseless claims GOWSRB. They hold no ground and you'll simply go around in circles.

[darkhole]

How does it look bad for Shunsui exactly? Remember Bankai Ichigo was fighting against unreleased Ulquiorra. Unreleased Shunsui is fighting against Unreleased Stark, and as far as we've seen they were pretty much at a stalemate. That means both still have releases to use. And both Stark has already acknowledged Shunsui's strength and vice versa. THey both basically realize that theirs is going to be a close fight.

I think Starks just been dodging during his entire battle with Shunsui so far, he's yet to throw a single attack. So the only thing Shunsui could possibly learn from that is that Stark has some hella reflexes.

[Stri]

I was moreso surprised that Shunsui is taking this fight so carelessly and even had the audacity to fight with only 1 sword, granted he even knows how strong Stark is. As of how it stands, this isn't anything more than a little spar session, with the two of them simply filling each other out.

[UnadvisedGoose]

^He also was highly impressed by those strikes he dodged. Just because we haven't explicitly seen Stark attack, doesn't mean he hasn't. In fact, if you look just before the scene is taken away from Shunsui and Stark, right after Shunsui drew his second sword, then you see them both actually clashing.

The thing is, Shunsui and Ukitake have been hyped much longer than Stark, or any Espada for that matter. These are characters that have been around longer(in the story, and in acutal Bleach time, I would guess) and are supposed to basically be legendary. I don't see them losing to somebody who's just sorta popped up as a character, like Stark or Barragan.

[GOWSRB]

I think Starks just been dodging during his entire battle with Shunsui so far, he's yet to throw a single attack. So the only thing Shunsui could possibly learn from that is that Stark has some hella reflexes.

Like UnadvisedGoose said, just because we haven't seen him actually attack (other than the clash) doesn't mean he hasn't. And considering the fact that they both drew their swords around the same time, I'd be willing to bet that Stark has dealt a fair share of attacks himself. You see that even Ulquiorra didn't start to use his sword until he felt it necessary. And the fact that Stark even acknowledged his skill while Shunsui wasn't even both swords at once says something. Now I'm not saying that Shunsui is gonna flat out win, cause there is still the chance he could lose. However, to think that he is screwed because Ichigo of all people is isn't exactly the brightest idea.

[easY]

Like UnadvisedGoose said, just because we haven't seen him actually attack (other than the clash) doesn't mean he hasn't. And considering the fact that they both drew their swords around the same time, I'd be willing to bet that Stark has dealt a fair share of attacks himself. You see that even Ulquiorra didn't start to use his sword until he felt it necessary. And the fact that Stark even acknowledged his skill while Shunsui wasn't even both swords at once says something. Now I'm not saying that Shunsui is gonna flat out win, cause there is still the chance he could lose. However, to think that he is screwed because Ichigo of all people is isn't exactly the brightest idea.

The latter part of that is true - however - I'm thinking that the actual character traits of Shunsui and Stark is more the reason for compliments and insults, rather than just their ranks implying how great someone is.

[darkhole]

Oh, he's been hyped all right. And Shunsui may win this battle against Stark, but it'll be with the help of Ukitake. And Stark acknowledging Shunsui's skill shows the type of person he is. Like when Yamamoto released and Halibel and Barragan's facial expression didn't change but Stark was like "woah, check this guy out." That just seems to be his personality.

edit: oh shit, had my 300th post at some point and didn't even notice.

[Diler]

I hope the spoilers are fake. You know why? Because as far as we've seen Ulq is far more superior AT THE MOMENT to Ichigo. He doesn't need to go to a second stage release cuz he could rape Ichigo as he was now. So it seems like utter sh*t if you ask me. Ichigo was getting owned, why release? Kubo's a bad writer...

[Wonderwice#1]

those spoilers sound like what happened last week? they can't be real.. wtf

[goze007]

Gonna be a boring ass chapter if it is true...

This is like the DBZ anime all over again... STALL STALL STALL STALL STALL

[klem14174]

Do you think that you could write any better Diler? I think not so dont dis him. I am actuly exited for this chapter, as i am for every chapter. Cant wait to see Ulquiorras "Full release".

[Captain Abarai]

I still see this as Ulquiorra's fear reflex. I typed on this in the "Does Ulquiorra Want To Lose" thread. Pretty far out...

Ulquiorra seems to me pretty *desparate* to show his superiority. This could be a denial/fear reflex. He felt something spike above his reiatsu in KT...we can't forget that.

Call it whatever the hell you want.. Hollow Power, Ichigo's Full Potential, Zangetsu, Hollow + Zangetsu, whatever...doesn't really matter as it is Ichigo who will *channel* the power and grow stronger. And I honestly feel that Kubo has to have Ichigo surpass this *peak* of power represented by Ulquiorra to solidify his place among the many *tiers* of character in Bleach.

Ulquiorra felt this, and he wants to see with his *eye* the power that rose above his in this silly lookin human kid. It's a mixture, he's compelling Ichigo to pull his strongest attack, take his strongest form, etc, and he's going to keep crushing it to prove to himself that he is better. He gonna keep on steppin his game up beyond Ichigo *and some argue that it has always been beyond Ichigo, and now it's just getting rediculous*, but if the previous comments in the Manga mean anything...Ichigo has something stronger STILL than Ulquiorra.

It's not a question of *will* Ichigo get better, it's how. And with Kubo, you never know.

[Afrojack]

GJ laughed off a Vizard GT without any blocking maneuver, while Ulq seems to have blocked it with his javelin. What is commonly used as a way to show the enemy's power does not seem to me to be an end-all be-all sign that Ulq is about to totally thrash Ichigo. Like I said in the Predictions thread, I think this chapter or after is where it really starts. There's always a few chapters of posturing, and depending on how Ichigo survives this cero, the last one may have been it. I'm with Captain Abarai in that I feel like Ichigo was only startled by the release at first, but we'll see this week.

I also feel that the spoiler is a fake. IMO it reeks of fanboyism.

[Alan the Cowboy Killer]

Hm, well I'm not sure we can say it's a second release akin to bankai after shikai, the wording was the "Ulquiorra completes his transformation", so its more like a stunted release, similar to different modes Byakuya has.
But the spoiler is very vague, so we really have to wait and see.

[goze007]

Traditionally, what % of spoilers that came out on WEDNESDAY turn out to be fake? I know a lot of Tuesday ones are, but from what I recall most of the ones on Wednesday are real...

[Afrojack]

That's a fair point, but I hope that it's at least at the end after Ichigo shows that he wasn't as outclassed as he seems to be at the moment, otherwise this "complete" form is a useless power up.

[Strawberry Princess]

It sounds fake to me as well..

Orihime wants to help? Utter fail XD ...

I dunno it just seems like a repeat of last chapter. Not quite, but almost.

[Sensui]

Well just keep in mind... a few weeks ago when Ulq actually released we got several spoilers for the chapter that also sounded really fake as well and fanboyish.

[pumpkin13]

I kinda hope the spoilers are true, and maybe Ulquiorra's full release will make up for the utter anticlimax and disappointment of the one that we've already seen.

[Stri]

Oh, he's been hyped all right. And Shunsui may win this battle against Stark, but it'll be with the help of Ukitake. And Stark acknowledging Shunsui's skill shows the type of person he is.

Maybe with the help of Ukitake, maybe not. It's speculation at best, at least at this point.

Like when Yamamoto released and Halibel and Barragan's facial expression didn't change but Stark was like "woah, check this guy out." That just seems to be his personality.


Also take note that Stark has already demonstrated to be very observant. There is in fact a possibility that Stark may know just how strong Yama-ji may actually be. Considering up until now, he's proven to be much more calculate than the other two although you wouldn't notice it at first glance.

Keep in mind he does this twice:

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/316/11/
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/318/17/

And Yama-ji is just talking, granted by his expression when Ichgo and Kenpachi went to attack him, he obviously viewed them as no threat, at all:

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/313/15/

I'm sure it's all in character, but being very observant is also in his character. <--Just theories anyway.

[xPyrox]

I'd say Stark wouldn't want to go head to head with Yama, I also think he's the type of guy who enjoys watching rather than performing. I think if he had had his way, him and Shunsui would have sat down, drunk some sake and watch Hitsugaya get pwned by Halibel before they got started.

Either way, Bleach is stalling, currently, Naruto is going somewhere, and has gone through almost a huge epic fight where Bleach has barely gone anywhere, what so ever.

[Luune]

The part about Orihime wanting to help is interesting. I remember back in the early chapters it was said that the strength of her abilities depend on the strength of her resolve (I think it was when Ishida saved her from the fat guy). Her healing powers are already godly, so it may be possible that her offensive abilities have the same potential.

Or it may be that her "phenomenon rejection" abilities can be used to deconstruct things as well. i.e. revert an arrancar to it's original hollow version.

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/192/09/

[plotkaislayer]

Haha.. all the talk of Stark and Shunsui tells me what battle some here REALLY want to see.. ^_^

Part of me wants the spoilers to be fake, too, and it's the part of me that wants the posturing to end and the battle begin. Oh, well.

[Mikeno]

HAHA.. damn I'm good.. I knew the VL arrancars had two releases.. here's to hoping the spoilers are true.. stroke of genius ;op ..

[theseraph]

remember when we thought there were only two levels to supersaiyan until goku promptly went the big 3, ichigo will do the same, lose his eyebrows, and pwn. j/k. interesting feature, it makes me think of findor carias who released and could upgrade his power past releasing- oddly enough he also had the longest(translated) ressurection command from all other past-current arrancars. i'm looking forward to this chapter, but next week's chapter will be where it's at. aka, next week? right.

[RYUJINN-JACK]

I still see this as Ulquiorra's fear reflex. I typed on this in the "Does Ulquiorra Want To Lose" thread. Pretty far out...

Ulquiorra seems to me pretty *desparate* to show his superiority. This could be a denial/fear reflex. He felt something spike above his reiatsu in KT...we can't forget that.

Call it whatever the hell you want.. Hollow Power, Ichigo's Full Potential, Zangetsu, Hollow + Zangetsu, whatever...doesn't really matter as it is Ichigo who will *channel* the power and grow stronger. And I honestly feel that Kubo has to have Ichigo surpass this *peak* of power represented by Ulquiorra to solidify his place among the many *tiers* of character in Bleach.

Ulquiorra felt this, and he wants to see with his *eye* the power that rose above his in this silly lookin human kid. It's a mixture, he's compelling Ichigo to pull his strongest attack, take his strongest form, etc, and he's going to keep crushing it to prove to himself that he is better. He gonna keep on steppin his game up beyond Ichigo *and some argue that it has always been beyond Ichigo, and now it's just getting rediculous*, but if the previous comments in the Manga mean anything...Ichigo has something stronger STILL than Ulquiorra.

It's not a question of *will* Ichigo get better, it's how. And with Kubo, you never know.


I'll have to say, I do agree with most of your post. just the part about fear, I dont believe is true.

I think it's more like Ulquiorra is psychologically milking Ichigo. His clever tact was shown when he used it to mind rape Orihime so it's not beyond him to bring out Ichigo's power... but why?

[Captain Abarai]

Yea I can get with that Jack.

He's skilled in the psychological arts...but why Ichigo? sure he's the main character, but why is he so concerned with this guy's power? Some say "just in it for a good fight", some say "primal fear that a lowly human for a moment went from trash to more powerful than him", some say even he has "ulterior motives and is looking to betray Aizen or if not that, act as a certain key to awaken his powers" I read that great theory on Club Bleach. Big ups to DecSter for that one.

There's alot of speculation on our teal tear'd Espada.

[randizzle]

Well the big complaint in the "Does Ulq. want to lose?" thread was why was he helpin Ichio along and drawing out the fight when there are 4 captains in the area? Maybe this is the answer. He finishes his release to take Ichigo out as quickly as possible to rest for the other fights to come. Or Ulq. is trying to draw out Ichigo's potential again for some plan of Aizen's to bring him over to their side. Both seem likely candidates for full release when Ulq was handling Ichigo without it. So I say yeah, go spoiler man....go.........

[theseraph]

all we know is, he's called the stig.
if you get this reference, you're awesome.
the one thing that gets to me the most about ulqiourra is that he's so analytical- sure we've seen stark figure kyoraku in about 5 seconds but still- ulq acts like he's got everyone figured out, and usually, he's right.
so he knows ichigo has power but he's doing whatever he can to bring that out even though that's not in his best interest, or is it. that suckah knows something.

[dakidd39668]

I have one question. When Ulq made that statement that Ichigo has more potential he was unreleased. Is Ulq also talking about his future released form? Or did Ulq mean that Ichigo can pass his unrelased form? It seem strange because Ulq has a second release.

[Captain Abarai]

I have one question. When Ulq made that statement that Ichigo has more potential he was unreleased. Is Ulq also talking about his future released form? Or did Ulq mean that Ichigo can pass his unrelased form? It seem strange because Ulq has a second release.

I'd blindly speculate he meant his complete power.

I mean it wouldn't make too much since if Ulquiorra was referring to a specific *tier* of his power.

Why would he refer to his unreleased power?

Isn't being an Arrancar a form of concealment of a Hollow's *true* power?

Great question but it raises alot of questions if looked at this way.

[RYUJINN-JACK]

Yea I can get with that Jack.

He's skilled in the psychological arts...but why Ichigo? sure he's the main character, but why is he so concerned with this guy's power? Some say "just in it for a good fight", some say "primal fear that a lowly human for a moment went from trash to more powerful than him", some say even he has "ulterior motives and is looking to betray Aizen or if not that, act as a certain key to awaken his powers" I read that great theory on Club Bleach. Big ups to DecSter for that one.

There's alot of speculation on our teal tear'd Espada.


Indeed there is.

There's definatly something going on we arent supposed to know yet. I'd think Aizen relayed to Ulquiorra that he wants Ichigo at his peak for some reason.

Why would Aizen send Stark, his strongest chess peice to grab Orihime... to the conclusion of her now being rescued; Other than to use her to lure Ichigo to Ulquiorra.

My only thought is that perhaps Aizen can use Ichigo as an Ouken.. Aizen will make one, but Karakura town can't be destroyed...Kubo wont let that happen.

Oh well.. just have to wait nd see.

[NAM1011]

Or possibly, Aizen knows about the Vaizard and their banishing. He might try to get Ichigo to fully unleash his Hollow powers so that he can try to have Ichigo come to his side. He will tell him something to the affect that what does Ichigo think SS will do when they find out that he is part hollow blah blah blah. Something of that nature.

[randizzle]

OR
Instead of baiting Ichigo he is really baiting Orihime????
Just thought about that like right this second and it seems really just like wow to me. WoW
Somebody is gonna get pushed over some edge and somebody's gonna get the crap beat out of them becuase of it. Somebody else is just gonna stand back and watch in awe. You heard it first here.





Totally kidding.
Kind of.

[Captain Abarai]

I dunno. NAM1011

Ichigo seems too strong willed to go to the darkside. Hey they hate me in SS, I'mma go join Aizen, join the ones that got my friends stuck in HM join the one whose minions almost killed Rukia, Sado, Ishida, and etc.. Don't really see that happening.

As far as I can speculate, Ichigo would be far more concerned how his Nakama felt about his Hollow power, that he has their trust in him, rather than what the hell Byakuya and Kommamura thought.

I'm really waiting on Urahara's counter to Aizen's recent over confidence. Since Urahara over calculated to the point of being eerily correct, he has to have a rebuttal to Aizen's over confidence. He is Good Aizen... lol Ichigo still doesn't TRULY know what the hell is going on.

[AizenvsUrahara]

why do people assume that Aizen does not know about the vizards ?

[Diler]

Do you think that you could write any better Diler? I think not so dont dis him. I am actuly exited for this chapter, as i am for every chapter. Cant wait to see Ulquiorras "Full release".

Where did I say I can write better than him? I'm not a writer so I don't have to worry about that. I dis him because I really don't like when someone has a MAJOR advantage and they powerup even more. We didn't even get to see him fight that much in his basic res form, so that really sucks if you ask me. If they fought for, let's say 5 more chapters, we would get a bigger picture of his strenght. But this? 2 chapters where we see him almost 1 hit kill Ichigo, then his super charged Black Cero, that's just not enough. And now although he has the upper hand he still wants to power up. What the hell for? He could rape Ichi in his basic res (we didn't even see his special ability). So that's why I think it's bad writing.

[fifenfk]

A 2nd release as in a like the current released form we see ulquiorra in is a espada's "shikai" then i have to agree the gotei 13 taicho are screwed and that would be interesting to see but would also suck at the same time because then what level of power is going to beat halibel,baragan and stark.As for ichigo making a come back from that black cero i think he would use his reiatsu as a shield or he is going to pull a move out of nowhere that we have never seen and go holy crap !!!!.Right now a meeting with Hichigo looks eminent as to remind ichigo what the hell he really is and that he needs to tap into the source.This is my veiw of things to come.

[annsaint]

...I really don't like when someone has a MAJOR advantage and they powerup even more. We didn't even get to see him fight that much in his basic res form, so that really sucks if you ask me....

that never made sense to me either. the only possible motivation would be to impress ichigo, whom he is crushing upon. he's put on a dress, but his transformation is not yet done. high heels will complete the ensemble.

[Spikey]

Ulq releases his final form to reveal him as http://news.softpedia.com/images/news2/Guess-Who-Else-Likes-to-Dress-in-Drag-2.jpg

[Vergil]

The chapter makes no sense to me too.I think Kubo is just stretching the fight.
And if Ulq's Cero didnt do so much damage to Ichigo then what was the point??
The use of Cero and Getsuga's is goind down like use of Kunai in Naruto because they inflict no damage at all.

[owbu]

oh my, if that stupid bat says "ok now im gonna show you my REAL power" one more time without blasting the fuck out of ichigo, i will delete every episode Ulq is showing up!

hope that frightens him.

[Szarlej]

Ulq releases his final form to reveal him as

Lulz. :)

[Vaizard Prince]

I'm with that theory^^

Would it not make sense for the top for (i.e. the Vastro Lorde) to have two stages of release? Akin to a shinigami having Shikai and Bankai? If the top four are indeed Vastro it would make sense for them to have a 'second' stage of release, given that they have achieved the perfect sync of hollow and shinigami powers.

[xPyrox]

Basically, if it doesn't get around to them having a proper fight and Ulq actually pulling something out of his ass.

I'm going to hang a small animal by its toes (Y)

[d3m1G0d]

Basically, if it doesn't get around to them having a proper fight and Ulq actually pulling something out of his ass.

I'm going to hang a small animal by its toes (Y)

I'll be right there with you, I'll bring the baseball bat.

[Slickz0r]

holy shi-

really looking forward to seeing ulquiorras final release now. going by the spoilers it will be badass.

something major will happen next week though. looking forward to the upcoming releases.

[Nocturne' Ichigo]

Ulq. gets fur now?

[Captain Abarai]

Hmm this is getting immensely interesting.

I don't mind this pace. After seeing that fiasco in KT, Dodondochakka, Coolhorne, Oomeada's wtf faces..

I'll read these with a smile. Not to mention these are damn good build ups. It almost seems something is *wrong* with Ichigo. Where the hell is the guy that cowered in a corner after seeing Kenpachi.

Glad he's gone.

[Kuroi Shio]

This looks like its gonna be epic. The chapter cant come fast enough.

[klem14174]

You know i have been thinking about Ulquiorras release. Im not sure its a secondary release, its more along the lines of he stoped half way through or what ever. And now that Ichigo said he wont give up fighing Ulquiorra wants to show him how wrong that idea really is. So he will fully release into his "true" ressorection form, what it would have been if he had not stoped it.

[darkp]

Well if these spoiler's are true,and ichigo really finished than maybe ichigo still is not a high tier level character , cause he could not do anything first release and there is still a second release.

Or ulqi's and other 3 espada stronger than yamamoto and other high tier level captains which ı will highly doubt that.

[klem14174]

Well it looks like Ulquiorras dress is going to be gone. Ulquiorra is showing more emotion in this chapter which is interesting. Ishida is such a woman, looking into Orihime's eyes and then does what she wants, lol. From this it looks like Orihime will probably use her shield again to protect Ichigo and then Ichigo will get up and tell her thanks but stay back. Ichigo will probably yell at Ishida to take her to a safe distance. But I do have a question how the heck will either of Ishida or Orihime be able to tolerate that ements of a restu?



Bleach 347: The Lust

Continues from the last chapter, after Ulquiorra shot the black cero at Ichigo his mask is completely destroyed. The impact is so strong that the top of a dome is gone. The whole Las Noches shakes and even Ishida and Orihime could feel it. Orihime calls Ishida and asks him if his power could carry her to the top of the dome. Ishida wants to reject her request but meets with her pleading eyes and word. He couldn’t refuse her.

A scene cuts to Ichigo and Ulquiorra. His mask is gone but the black/golden eyes remain. His bankai coat is gone and only has a hakama left. Ichigo tries to gain his balance mid air but Ulquiorra appears and kicks him makes him hit the dome. Ulquiorra tells Ichigo even though his form and attacks are similar to arrancars but the difference is too great. He says while it is clever to act like a hollow yet using shinigami or human powers, it doesn’t make humans equal to the hollows. Ichigo’s still persistent, he slowly getting up, holding his sword tightly while his eyes are slowly turning into human he whispers, “Getsuga….”

“I said this is useless!!!!!!” Ulquiorra screams and hit Ichigo with his sword. Ichigo hits the dome. Ulquiorra follows him and grabs his neck lifting him up from the ground.

“Why won’t you drop your sword? You’ve seen the difference in our powers.”

“Difference in powers….so what?” He stars right back at Ulquiorra, “If you are stronger than me so I should quit? I know from the start that you are stronger. Until now, no matter how many times I see your strength it won’t change my mind…”

Ichigo smiles intensely at Ulquiorra, “I will defeat you, Ulquiorra.” And that makes Ulquiorra let go of Ichigo.

“How ridiculous, Kurosaki Ichigo. Your words are of those who don’t know the true despair.” Ichigo looks confused at Ulquiorra before feeling the change in Ulquiorra’s reiatsu.

His long white coat is gone and the only left is his wings revealing his chest where liquid like blood is flowing out from his hollow hole. The lower part is covered in something similar to black fur. His arms turn black from the elbows to finger tips. His white eyes turn black and the marks under his eyes are wider. The hollow mask turns into the horns.

“If you don’t know then I will tell you. This is the true form of despair.”

A note:
- Seems like Ishida has inner monologue regarding whether he should accept Orihime’s request or not.

- A guy comments Ulquiorra’s form resembles the Devil Man.

- Ulquiorra raises his voice for the first time.

[Vergil]

Ulq. gets fur now?

Yep WTF is it??
Another so-called furry release...
Though I still like Grimmjow's better.

[annsaint]

drag queens love fur. fur and diamonds.

[Nii-Sama]

has anyone noticed this is almost like the byakua fight? First byakua goes bankai then the true form of his bankai then ichigo has his hollow come out.


Now look at this fight Ulq. releases now he is using his true form so hichigo should be out soon

[Oh_Word_Ichigo]

damn my boy Ichigo is gettin his ass whipped! so this would be the end of the "sins" chapters i persume. i was assuming this is where Ichigo would turn things around or at least even them out. boy was i wrong.

[Whyte Bler 000]

The only dissapointing thing about this spoiler is waiting another week to see what will happen. I think Ichigo is done. Even if he can pull his mask out again, it won't do anything. If his hollow side comes out and goes insane, it will take all the captains there to bring ichigo back in control, not to mention his secret will be revealed to everyone in HM. As of right now the only ones in SS who know about is hollow are Rukia and Byakuya. Hanataro has only seen the mask appear on his body, and Orihime and Ishida for his friends.

I'm hoping Unohana comes in to fight. 4th squad captain against 4th espada.

[Slickz0r]

Ichigo has yet to gain his ultimate hollow powers. Of course that is what will happen next. No 4th squad captain will finish off Ulquiorra. It just won't happen.

I'm most hyped up about Ulquiorra shouting, finally showing some real emotions, and they way his eyes will change. Predicting a badass look.

[xPyrox]

Unohana's not comingggg~

if she comes. I will eat my shoe. And take pictures. No kidding.
This is a fight that Ichigo needs to do on his own, especially since Unohana knows not to step into a fight. She's as old as Ukitake. and he goes by that, not stepping in to fight the thing Kaien was fighting, remember?

Either way, the new spoilers basically say Orihime's gonna need to do some fighting or get killed or something so that Ichigo'll go ape shit, thats the only way he has a hope in hell. And to get to something like thats gonna take us four or five chapters at this rate. =\..

[grimmjow58]

I'm so hyped up about Ulquiorra's second release its gonna be mind exploding, can't wait for that.

And everybody was complaining how Ulquiorra's release was to plain and simple and now that he has a secondary release everybodies bitching, what the hell do you guys want its a cartoon take it easy, i'v never been disappointed with bleach ever and i'm allways excited to read/watch each bleach chapter and episode even if it is a filler then again i'm not a hard guy to please, i know u aren't going to like everything but bitching a bout every single detail then stop reading bleach simple.

Once and for all Unohana isn't going to fight Ulquiorra, yeah it would be cool to see Unohana fight but it isn't going to be against Ulquiorra, everytime its Unohana this and Unohana that, if u don't like how the story is going then just stop reading or shut the fuck up.

[easY]

I'm so hyped up about Ulquiorra's second release its gonna be mind exploding, can't wait for that.

And everybody was complaining how Ulquiorra's release was to plain and simple and now that he has a secondary release everybodies bitching, what the hell do you guys want its a cartoon take it easy, i'v never been disappointed with bleach ever and i'm allways excited to read/watch each bleach chapter and episode even if it is a filler then again i'm not a hard guy to please, i know u aren't going to like everything but bitching a bout every single detail then stop reading bleach simple.

Once and for all Unohana isn't going to fight Ulquiorra, yeah it would be cool to see Unohana fight but it isn't going to be against Ulquiorra, everytime its Unohana this and Unohana that, if u don't like how the story is going then just stop reading or shut the fuck up.

Cartoooon? IT'S REAL LIFE GODDAMMIT...

New spoiler seems nice, Ulq going "full power", now is going be rather epic. Unless he is still holding something further back ._.

[shinji]

Wtf this is moveing waaaaaaay to slow i mean a whole chapter saying how much stronger he is and a new form that could be done in 5 pages tops.

[IchiRuki08]

Ichigo= Acting like Goku

Goku always used to say he will beat someone even though they where always stronger then him. Eventually during the fight somehow Goku pulled the win out of his ass. However Goku always had people training him. Ichigo doesnt lol.

Also... Glasses boy PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DONT LISTEN TO ORIHIME! What is she going to do? Kurosaki kun her way to win? Ulq not going to kill Ichigo because Orihime will go with him? ugh

Problem is Orihime that Ichigo is actually pissing Ulq off now. Even your bitching wont help at this point. Either Ichigo somehow pulls a win via Hichigo or hes in deep shit.... Or the legendry ssj shingami shows up... Because ya hes in hollow vizard mode still...but hes not even in bankai anymore. He is getting to Ulq though. Which is nice to see.

Kubo is kinda going out of order a little... The fight with Ulq seems like its almost done. Yet Rukia is still fighting the tree guy and the guys are fighting the hollows. Keeping them busy much Kubo? jeaz its like the cell jr battle here lol.

Oh wait... if Ulq is a VL..with his next release coming next week.... and Ichigo.. is in normal vizard mode without the mask.... dont tell me....Kubo is going to have Ichigo go.... VL too.... *twich*

[IronFrozen]

hahaha srsly bleach is funny, some of you will describe this as a "suspense" some other as a "holy shit ulq is freakin awsome", but this is a joke, i feel like tite kubo is laughing at his readers, by giving them chapters with poses and zero information, itss just all about graphics and poses, i mean whats the meaning of this chapter ? what kind of stupid evil character is ulqui ? im not here to bash, im just expressing my humble opinion.
And once again it will take us only 80sec to read this chapter.
This is fail, this fight should be done in a much more better way, that's what i think, but yeah whatever...yeah btw thats remind me of dbz " srs business now yataa ssj3 youhou"...

last thing haha ill kill myself if orihime says ": kurosaki kun".

[Wonderwice#1]

So he got furry arms and his whole starts to bleed...

wow this chapter really went somewhere..

[Athane]

Not too shabby of a chapter, it's progressing I suppose.

Sounds like Ulquiorra is turning into Mothra.

I think Ishida is going to get hurt instead of Orihime. FF7 or DBZ which one do you pick?

[Kuroi Shio]

last thing haha ill kill myself if orihime says ": kurosaki kun".
For once I actually wanna hear her yell it.

[paradise_found]

devil man?

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e168/sportsawhitetie/dabura.jpg

[Nocturne' Ichigo]

devil man?

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e168/sportsawhitetie/dabura.jpg

lol....i'd be soo upset if is it looks remotely close to this

[paradise_found]

lol....i'd be soo upset if is it looks remotely close to this

shit, me too. that's just who i thought of first. unfortunately.

from the sound of it, ulquiorra's gonna look badass.

[Lnrd]

devil man?

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e168/sportsawhitetie/dabura.jpg

:lmao::lol: That be crazy

[camarofan2008]

lmao thats pretty damn funny right there!

[easY]

So he got furry arms and his whole starts to bleed...

wow this chapter really went somewhere..

Genius, hahaha.

[NigaDem]

So he got furry arms and his whole starts to bleed...

wow this chapter really went somewhere..

thats just Kubo saying Ulq is on his period, nasty kubo!

[-champloo-]

Ulq is PMSing then?

So every character in the entire manga is doomed?

That would also explain why he yelled. =P

[Whyte Bler 000]

I'm so hyped up about Ulquiorra's second release its gonna be mind exploding, can't wait for that.

And everybody was complaining how Ulquiorra's release was to plain and simple and now that he has a secondary release everybodies bitching, what the hell do you guys want its a cartoon take it easy, i'v never been disappointed with bleach ever and i'm allways excited to read/watch each bleach chapter and episode even if it is a filler then again i'm not a hard guy to please, i know u aren't going to like everything but bitching a bout every single detail then stop reading bleach simple.

Once and for all Unohana isn't going to fight Ulquiorra, yeah it would be cool to see Unohana fight but it isn't going to be against Ulquiorra, everytime its Unohana this and Unohana that, if u don't like how the story is going then just stop reading or shut the fuck up.

pretty sure i wasn't complaining scum bag. learn how to read. i said in my post that the only disappointing thing about this chapter is how i have to wait till next week's chapter. which means that it is VERY GOOD...

and to end it, i simply stated at the end I would like to see her fight. After reading the TBTP arc, who wouldn't?

[Zero-sama]

First of all Ulquiorra is talking a lot of shit. OK cool he has a second or a complete release form. The Fact is, what Ulquiorra has been doing this whole fight is babbling a lot about their difference in power. If it is true that there is a huge gap between them (according to Ulq.) why the hell go to a second or a final whatever you wanna call it form, when you can kill him easily. The only logical thing I see is that this is a plan set by Aizen in order to lure Ichigo's hollow powers out and do something nobody is expecting, because this fight is beginning to look dumb.

[Mushiro]

First of all Ulquiorra is talking a lot of shit. OK cool he has a second or a complete release form. The Fact is, what Ulquiorra has been doing this whole fight is babbling a lot about their difference in power. If it is true that there is a huge gap between them (according to Ulq.) why the hell go to a second or a final whatever you wanna call it form, when you can kill him easily.

Most likely because Ulquiorra is actually trying to hide the fact that he is having difficulty in killing Ichigo. The fact he had to take on another form is proof of this. Most likely, the Cero Oscuras was his strongest attack in that form. Since Ichigo survived it, Ulquiorra needs more to defeat him, despite the difference in their power. Ichigo is a die hard son of a bitch.

[Rdr300]

Well I think this 2nd/complete release is just hinting toward vizards having a complete or 2nd one as well.

[paradise_found]

Well I think this 2nd/complete release is just hinting toward vizards having a complete or 2nd one as well.

oh god that would be lame. they already get a power boost from the mask; why give them another one?

i think that the second transformation might just be specific to ulquiorra. or at least i hope so. how stupid would that be if stark AND halibel AND barrigan AND ulquiorra all had second forms?

[Zero-sama]

Most likely because Ulquiorra is actually trying to hide the fact that he is having difficulty in killing Ichigo. The fact he had to take on another form is proof of this. Most likely, the Cero Oscuras was his strongest attack in that form. Since Ichigo survived it, Ulquiorra needs more to defeat him, despite the difference in their power. Ichigo is a die hard son of a bitch.


But Ulquiorra could have finish him easily with out turning into "Devilman". He had the upper hand and Ichigo was not even capable of scratching him with his ultimate and only attack "Getsuga Tensho". In the state Ulq. was in, would have been sufficient enough to kill Ichigo. You may be right in how Ichigo is hard to kill, but another ceros oscuras from Ulq. and Ichigo would have been dust.

*When I see and read the chapter I will be able to make a better analysis out of it.

[Oh_Word_Ichigo]

idk if its exactly a "second release" and there's another command for it, so i'll reserve judgement there. but for Ulquiorria to stop mid-release just to show off and then finish the release is insane and totally uncalled for lol. the power gap between them is so immense i'm having trouble finding Ichigo actually pulling this off. Whatever Ulq sensed on Earth during their first meeting sure as hell isn't present right now...that's all i have to hold onto in hopes my main ace Ichigo can pull this off. or orihime and ishida somehow helping him or triggering something within. this is depressing lmao :(

Ulq is the man with mind games, i will give him that. and that is what seems like the case here. He is on some Byakuya shit right now and is attempting to crush his resolve instead of just attempting to end it. He wants him to come to an understanding that he won't win, can't win before he kills him. But alas...this is how villians fall. Too cocky and arrogant for their own good. Ce la vie...he'll fall eventually, maybe Ichigo will turn the tide next week if it does seem like Ishida and Orihime are going to aid him in some way.

[Captain Abarai]

This isn't about Ulquiorra's *ease or lack of ease* to kill Ichigo. He could have killed him many times over..some times even before this fight.

To me, and probably only me, I think this is about Ulquiorra still being dissatisfied with this rediculously low level of power Ichigo is showing....in contrast to what he felt in KT.

He's just stepping it up something ridiculous to try to carve into Ichigo's bones that he simply CANNOT defeat him. I think he's trying to evoke dispair from Ichigo. But Ichigo isn't going to turn into what the Arrancar are reduced to when they lose... babbling bullshit like Zommori, making erroneous claims to kill like that stupid Hollow chick. Basically BEGGING to die like Nnoitra.. etc

I for one an glad that Ichigo hasn't resorted to despair yet...the antithesis of hope.

[camarofan2008]

thats just Kubo saying Ulq is on his period, nasty kubo!

LMAO that explains a lot lol!!!

Well it could be a lot worse, Orihime could be the one that kills Ulq lol.

[Oh_Word_Ichigo]

This isn't about Ulquiorra's *ease or lack of ease* to kill Ichigo. He could have killed him many times over..some times even before this fight.

To me, and probably only me, I think this is about Ulquiorra still being dissatisfied with this rediculously low level of power Ichigo is showing....in contrast to what he felt in KT.

He's just stepping it up something ridiculous to try to carve into Ichigo's bones that he simply CANNOT defeat him. I think he's trying to evoke dispair from Ichigo. But Ichigo isn't going to turn into what the Arrancar are reduced to when they lose... babbling bullshit like Zommori, making erroneous claims to kill like that stupid Hollow chick. Basically BEGGING to die like Nnoitra.. etc

I for one an glad that Ichigo hasn't resorted to despair yet...the antithesis of hope.

-daps for this- i feel the same way, i just said it right before you did but you put it better words.

[Zero-sama]

idk if its exactly a "second release" and there's another command for it, so i'll reserve judgement there. but for Ulquiorria to stop mid-release just to show off and then finish the release is insane and totally uncalled for lol. the power gap between them is so immense i'm having trouble finding Ichigo actually pulling this off. Whatever Ulq sensed on Earth during their first meeting sure as hell isn't present right now...that's all i have to hold onto in hopes my main ace Ichigo can pull this off. or orihime and ishida somehow helping him or triggering something within. this is depressing lmao :(



I know, it is depressing :(

But what Ulq. sensed on Earth was probably the Inner Hollow (Hichigo), maybe he wants Hichigo to come out. But that will be a bad idea.

[Oh_Word_Ichigo]

lol aye, the most powerful warriors want to fight the best. I think Ulq's interest were already peaked by Aizen wanting to do a scouting report on KT's finest mainly Ichigo. Once he finally got a glimpse of his power, he saw what Aizen meant and wanted to face it himself. But here's the thing: remember Ulq saying that "he isn't worth killing right now, he'll end up killing himself" or something along those lines? I think what this is now is Ulq attempting to prove this theory. To see if Ichigo will indeed overcome the mass reiatsu that resides in him, or will it kill himself. Ulq is a gambling man if he really wants to take this task on.

[klem14174]

I am exited for this chapter, I know some people say that the raws come out around midnight but where the heck to you guys go? I usualy go to Mangahelpers but there dont have it out till like 9am so where the heck do you find it so early?

[Matt]

I Hope Hichigo makes another appearance.

Or at least Zangetsu (haven't seen him since the SS arc)

He's going to need some help.

I would love Hichigo to come out and kick Ulquorria's Ass.

[Luune]

Ulquiorra is completely logical and analytical. He knows he is more powerful than Ichigo and can kill him at will. The fact that Ichigo keeps coming after him is absurd in his eyes. Think what would happen if Ulq was confronted with someone more powerful than himself. Ulq would probably analyze the power gap, conclude that it was not in his favor, and submit to his opponent without a fight.

I think he is trying to understand why Ichigo continues to fight on, despite the obvious gap in power, it doesn't make any sense to him. Just as he was trying to understand the concept of having a heart and friends during his conversations with Orihime.

This is the reason I believe why Ulq doesn't just kill Ichigo, he wants to learn from him why humans behave the way they do.

[Zero-sama]

I Hope Hichigo makes another appearance.

Or at least Zangetsu (haven't seen him since the SS arc)

He's going to need some help.

I would love Hichigo to come out and kick Ulquorria's Ass.



Believe me if Hichigo does come out, then everybody say goodbye to Ulquiorra. Because Hichigo is going to rape literally Ulquiorra in so many ways I can not describe. It will be a massacre, and a fun massacre to watch, when an arrogant guy like Ulq. meets somebody he is not gonna be able to put a finger on. I see Hichigo cleaning the floor with Uqluiorra. Now that will be EPIC!!!!

[kochito22]

I hope not. I'm not a fan of yaoi.

[klem14174]

That would be very epic and i would love to see that insaine fight but i dought he will take over. Maybe lend a hand like a quick slash or somthing but not a take over like when he fouught Byakuya. I just like many other think that Ichigo will go into his inner world, either by Old man Zangetsu or by H.Ichigo. There will be no other way for Ichigo to win besides maybe a power boost to protect Orihime or Ishida sense they will be at the top of the dome next chapter probably.

[Zero-sama]

Ulquiorra is completely logical and analytical. He knows he is more powerful than Ichigo and can kill him at will. The fact that Ichigo keeps coming after him is absurd in his eyes. Think what would happen if Ulq was confronted with someone more powerful than himself. Ulq would probably analyze the power gap, conclude that it was not in his favor, and submit to his opponent without a fight.

I think he is trying to understand why Ichigo continues to fight on, despite the obvious gap in power, it doesn't make any sense to him. Just as he was trying to understand the concept of having a heart and friends during his conversations with Orihime.

This is the reason I believe why Ulq doesn't just kill Ichigo, he wants to learn from him why humans behave the way they do.


You are right. I think you did a checkmate there pal, on Ulquioras intentions. It sounds true, he is trying to understand the Human Behavior.

Now the question will be if he does understand it, will he become an ally in the end, I mean after their fight is over, if he is still alive. Similar to Byakuya and Ichigos relationship. What I am trying to say is that in the end will Ulquiorra become a good guy or an Anti-hero sort of. Remember Neliel is not evil or bad, she is good, from what we have seen, and I think Ulquiorra can change too.

[Captain Abarai]

For everybody looking to Hichigo to come out, or even an inner world experience or whatever..

You need one thing.

Ichigo's Zanpaktou needs to break. That'll stop Ichigo's absurd confidence strong enough to invoke despair. Wish for it. You got a week to fast, meditate, pray, channel Hollow like thoughts, read Chapters of Ulquiorra owning Ichigo...

It just might happen. :D

[theseraph]

you'll next week ulq is just gonna say he used to be bruce wayne, aka, the batman. or, more seriously, ulq showing more than just his usual eye expressions brings us back to the "maybe i've become more like a hollow or you've become more like a human" deal. either way the power being generated by the 4th espada now really makes you wonder just how strong stark is going to be when push comes to shove, i.e. with lilnette will come to some harm(prolly stupid omaeda will pick a fight j/k).

[Alan the Cowboy Killer]

Whoa crap, Ulq loses it.
I can't even picture that.
That right there makes me very interested in this chap.
Ulq doesn't seem to be saying any command in order to reach his final form, so as of yet I don't really think it can be called a second release.
If he indeed does look like the devil (the helmet turning into horns), then the VL silhouette is going to be discussed again.

[Zero-sama]

For everybody looking to Hichigo to come out, or even an inner world experience or whatever..

You need one thing.

Ichigo's Zanpaktou needs to break. That'll stop Ichigo's absurd confidence strong enough to invoke despair. Wish for it. You got a week to fast, meditate, pray, channel Hollow like thoughts, read Chapters of Ulquiorra owning Ichigo...

It just might happen. :D


If you mean break, that his Zanpaktou breaks literally, I didn't see that happening in the fight between Ichigo and Byakuya, when Hichigo came out. Read chapters of Ichigo battling Zaraki, that was when we all saw when Ichigos Zanpaktou Broke, and Hichigo didn't came out, Ichigo went to his inner world instead.

[Alan the Cowboy Killer]

Also, the latest spoiler clarified how much damage that cero obscuras did (took his whole mask off!) so its good to know that the cliffhanger of last chapter actually resulted in something.

[paradise_found]

If you mean break, that his Zanpaktou breaks literally, I didn't see that happening in the fight between Ichigo and Byakuya, when Hichigo came out. Read chapters of Ichigo battling Zaraki, that was when we all saw when Ichigos Zanpaktou Broke, and Hichigo didn't came out, Ichigo went to his inner world instead.

which also happened to be hichigo's debut appearance. that was the first time ichigo had to fight him in order to gain strength.

the time hichigo took over during the byakuya fight was to prevent ichigo from dying. didn't need a sword to break for that one; just self-preservation.

i don't think abarai was saying that ichigo's zan HAS to break for hichigo to show up. just that that would be a good catalyst for it to happen THIS time.

[Captain Abarai]

Ichigo didn't undergo the Vaizard process when that happened with Byakuya... As far as we know, the Vaizard process exists to *convert* the Hollow form from interfering with the host, to becoming a source of power for the user.

Under this understanding, the Hollow can no longer *impose* it's will onto Ichigo. For any reason, using his Bankai wrong, being too weak, whatever.

IMHO.

But, having an experience inside a *realm* of your mind, meeting & battling the personifications of your power (Soul Power and Instinct + Hollow Power) in my theory can more accurately be triggered via broken Zangetsu (meaning that he simply CANNOT FIGHT). This seems more plausible to me than a scenario where Ichigo is simply backed into a corner...near death, not enough power, or whatever...

Neck stab from Ulquiorra didn't trigger it.
Brutalization from Tesla didn't trigger it.

if a perfectly drilled hole in your chest don't trigger the *bodily takeover* but, a White Lightning and sword in foot did... Just doesn't feel right.

Doesn't hurt that Byakuya was about to finish it..that impending doom as Paradise said probably was the real trigger for the *Instinct*. The will to live. Wonder what would have happened if Ichigo was a Vaizard and reached the same crossroads?

Eh, I'm just a theorist, and it's Tite Kubo's Manga.

[arthur11]

This devilman transformation does sound interesting but nothingelse is happening at the moment which makes it abit like dbz gt without the crappy humour but its aiight i guess.

I was thinking about the significance of the devil transformation...avenging devil..god's(Aizens) Lucifer etc but that would incinuate revolt which just wont happen, maybe its Orihime's time to really shine and go all fairyfied become something similar looking to an angel and do an ultimate rejection on Ulq.

[paradise_found]

Wonder what would have happened if Ichigo was a Vaizard and reached the same crossroads?


i think we're gonna find out very soon. ulquiorra's holding ichigo up by the throat while he hasn't even gotten a scratch on him? i think we'll be seeing some sort of inner world pow-wow here real soon.

i still hope it's ol' man zangetsu bein' all like:
"bitch, you forgot your roots. i'm the original gangster."

EDIT:

oh jesus, arthur might be right. that would SUCK.

[Captain Abarai]

i still hope it's ol' man zangetsu bein' all like:
"bitch, you forgot your roots. i'm the original gangster."



LOL. I'm crazy cause I think *this time* Ichigo is trying with all he has, but there's a lock on him, simular to Naruto with that 5-Points Seal, and he's not in control of it.. I dunno...

Ichigo used to lock himself up with that absurd fear. Him admitting that Ulquiorra is stronger is strange, yet speaks volumes to his resolve.

[theseraph]

if inoue rejects anyone's existence, much less ulq, i will wtfpwn kubo. actually, a while back before the last grim fight she said she couldn't reject ulq's reiatsu in ichigo's wound. i know there are always conflict- such as fully healing him later, but still. i'm actually thinking that ulq's reiatsu mixed with ichigo's and that's why in part he got a powerup, something ulq might theorize himself and hence the antigonism towards ichigo. but what do i know...

[ajdl334]

Yall keep saying next week do you mean the week after tomorrows manga release?

[Mikeno]

http://www.mangatoshokan.com/read/bleach/1/193/19

The reason Ulq has been goading Ichigo is to find out the true reason Ichigo's reiatsu rose above his own.. Ulq being bound by his strict logic after all.. He keeps raising the ante in hope of discovering why.. and I believe he will find out why in the next few chapters.. I believe Ichigo someway or another will revert back to some form of Hichigo.. but by reverting he actually unleashes his true reiatsu..

http://www.mangatoshokan.com/read/bleach/1/221/16
http://www.mangatoshokan.com/read/bleach/1/221/17

Perhaps the next time Hichigo is talking about will occur fairly soon.. So he can "Really control his power.."

[paradise_found]

good sources, mikeno. i can see hichigo scolding him for getting his ass kicked too bad. that's definitely what's going to happen, now that i've seen those.

you know what would be REALLY fan-servicey? if hichigo came out, weakened ulquiorra but still lost, and then unohana comes and finishes him off.

that would be so stupid.

[theseraph]

yeah, tomorrow sets the stage, probably with the cliffhanger of full ressurected ulqiourra as the pwn machine and next week our answers should probably come at least as far as the VL status and/or hichigo/zangetsu intervention, i hope. but, this isn't the proper thread so i'll stop here.

[Captain Abarai]

Wow. Ulquiorra's final release or whatever the hell it is.

*Carl from Aqua Teen Hungerforce* voice.

AWESOME! FREAKIN' AWESOME!!!

[theseraph]

shake's response: what the f*ck is that sh*t?
enter meatwad with some inoue like story.
yeah it's official, ulq = brain aneurism.

[Soujirou]

Good one Inoue going to do something useful for a change, Ichigo losing, Ulquiorra becoming a monster.

Lots of win on this episode, and Ichigo is finally going to need help during a fight, that downs Ichigo's invincible man status, and ups his friends who are currently pictured as being almost useless.

[Captain Abarai]

shake's response: what the f*ck is that sh*t?
enter meatwad with some inoue like story.
yeah it's official, ulq = brain aneurism.

Meatwad start cryin. rofl

Hmm Momok posted more pics. Kubo really got some panels in this one, him losing his mask was epic.

Yea this is a 10 if I ever saw one.

[randizzle]

Holy Devilman
krist I mean its so similiar
wow
He's so angry and hairy and.....ummmm....horny
giggles
Not really expecting that but to me it makes sense with all the religious analogies that Ulqs release would look like devilish
Must ponder this further

[manymanymomok]

agreed. this is pure ownage on a whole new level. Ichigo losing his mask in such a way... its just makes me go omg at that panel. Its so epic I think it deserves to be in the "Thread full of 'WIN'" haha..

Is it just me or is Ulquiorra's full release pretty scary? Anyway I believe at this point we can pretty safely assume Ulquiorra is a VL.

[Yadomaru]

Setting aside the fact that IMO Ulquiorra looks worse rather than better...yeah, this looks like a definitely great chapter - potentially.

[paradise_found]

Wow. Ulquiorra's final release or whatever the hell it is.

*Carl from Aqua Teen Hungerforce* voice.

AWESOME! FREAKIN' AWESOME!!!

yo carl wouldn't care because it has nothing to do with the giants. lol.

shit looks cool as fuck.

[manymanymomok]

a little offtopic (just cos im a fan :p):
Ulquiorra needs to win that popularity/coolness poll thread for ulq vs stark based on these few chapters. XD

btw, has anyone realised, that ulq's tattoo of number 4 is missing?
I wonder if its on purpose or if KT forgot

[theseraph]

you watch stark is going to turn into chuck norris, ultimate ressurection, and roundhouse everyone to death.

[UnadvisedGoose]

Wow I'm really digging Ulq's full release. Its pretty tight. I can't wait to see the moves he can use while in it. . .

[Zaraki-san]

You guys do realise that next week is all going to be about Orihime trying to intervene and save Ichigo. Look at how KT has set that up with her asking ishida to take her up to the battle. She's got somthing planned, and if it doesnt work out for whatever reason, it will make enough time to allow one of the other captains to intervene and get owned, (ala kenpachi and noitura) but this time the captain will go down and ichigo will finally step-up with some plotkai like he did to grimmjow and save the day.

everyone is screaming for a hichigo or inner battle, but KT wont give it to us, he wont do somthing so obvious and expected. unless he can recreate it in an entirely new way... i.e by bringing in Old man Zang

[randizzle]

Well (and I know I'm gonna get screamed at for saying this) maybe Ulq. isn't a VL? I'm only going off of Nnoitra and Grimjow but they're resurreccions were animal/insect forms. And yes I know that he turns into that demon looking thing after the initial batman look, but its still similiar and I would imgaine something [I]completely[I] different for a VL release. We still have like no info on a VL release/resurreccion so nothing is concrete and I am probably dead wrong because he does go that step further, but I don't think it is an additional release, just a full one and his true form.
Eh, I'll go hide now.

[Vergil]

I hope Kubo doesnt do the same as Kishimoto and make Inoue confess and die or be heavily injured that makes Ichigo go crazy.

[Captain Abarai]

Might wanna SP Tag that eh Vergil? Just to be safe. lol

Besides, Orihime's character isn't anywhere as compelling... IMHO

[paradise_found]

@randizzle
i think the animal theme is simply a hollow thing. aside from the gillians (and edorad's dumb ass), almost all of the hollows we've ever seen have been some kind of animal. i don't think we can use that against ulquiorra at this point.

he never really looked much like a bat in the first place, either. if he hadn't have been called "murcielago", nobody would have come to that conclusion.

[fifenfk]

After seeing the updated spoilers looks like ichigo is just taking the ass kicking of his life and doesnt look like he's makin much of a come back in this chapter.Which leaves me thinkin in this direction how is ulquiorra able to release half his resureccion then fight at that level and then push into over kill which means this is another power boost as if it wasnt over kill already.Even more interesting is how is ichigo gona beat ulquiorra cuz he says " i'm gona defeat you" from what i have seen NOT GONA HAPPEN.This is gona be hell'a exciting to see how it all plays out.

[Captain Abarai]

Just read the chapter. Can't wait to see it cleaned up on mangahut.

10. Solid 10.

The drama, suspense. Damn.

[Smerpy]

347 on onemanga now!
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/347/

[Vergil]

Agree, perfect 10.

And dont you think that now Ichigo has one lag naked and his full hollow form had the clothes ripped in the same way??

Also Ichigo's eyes arent hollow at the end of the chapter.

PS The phrase "what on earth is this" is just lolz...

[Hell2Kaiser]

you watch stark is going to turn into chuck norris, ultimate ressurection, and roundhouse everyone to death.

The good guys are supposed to win Brah!!!!

[Smerpy]

That form just looked so demonic.Reminds me of Marilyn Manson in one of his costume.

[cheapguy]

Ichigo is almost doomed from the lastest chapter. He's gonna need Kira Yamato-lvl hax power-up to pull a win outta this fight.:huh:

[Smerpy]

Before that can happen,Ulquiorra will have to deal with Inoue and Ishida.

[Kuroi Shio]

Just read the chapter. Can't wait to see it cleaned up on mangahut.

10. Solid 10.

The drama, suspense. Damn.

This.



I think Ulqs release looks much better now. 10/10

[Chase]

So thats what an ass whooping looks like:odd: Good chapter

[Captain Abarai]

LOL at all the people who shit themselves because Ichigo dodged a few sword strikes all the way back at The Antagonizer and onward. Half the forum thought Bleach was over, Ichigo was one Kurosaki-Kun away from one shotting Ulquiorra. suuree

We all knew it would come to this, but patience.....patience..Relish in the beatdown!! hahaha

[vudupins]

That form just looked so demonic.Reminds me of Marilyn Manson in one of his costume.

Agreed! I wouldn't be surprised if Marilyn Manson was Kubo's inspiration for Ulquiorra's [possibly] final resurrection form. I personally LOVED Ulquiorra's first released form, but I'm really lovin this one too. I have no idea how Ichigo's gonna get out of this one, and I really can't see how anything Orihime's planning on doing will work. I guess we'll find out next week, unless Kubo decides to be an asshole and switch back to Karakura Town, which I really hope doesn't happen...

[randizzle]

10 MUTHERF*CKIN 10
Dude, I've heard of knocking your socks off but Ulq knocked his effin shoes off too!
And I just realized something funny. Ulq screamin like that reminds me of psycho Itachi. Just like whoa, that should not be happening. Anybody else?

[plotkaislayer]

Well, we have our answer. Ulq. keeps powering up because Ichigo won't give in to despair the way Ulq. has. The questions to Orhime, the resolve of Ichigo, the help from Ishida--none of this makes any sense to an Arrancar who watches Yammi choke two female arrancar to death. Ichigo barely has the strength left to stand and won't give up. The greatest part of Ichigo's resolve is that he's smiling. He knows he's losing, and he is determined to win despite obviously fighting someone more powerful than him. By a lot.

The whole VL question seems beside the point. VL or not, Ulq. is not interesting because of his power but because he wants to reduce the world to despair. We finally saw him lose it in this chapter. He's furious he can't force Ichigo to give up--giving up is something a person does himself. It's a choice, and it's the one thing Ichigo still has power over in this fight. If Ulq. kills Ichigo without first making him give into despair, then Ulq. loses. It's that simple. And perhaps not in our eyes, but in his.

Finally, the whole Hichigo/OMZ thing seems beside the point, as well. Ichigo doesn't need a power up. He needs a miracle.

[hcaelb]

Now that's a release. Just the new image of Ulq.'s release alone makes this chapter a 10. Evil, spooky, demonic, awesome!

[Kuroi Shio]

Ichigo did look very similar to Hichigo when his mask broke and his eyes were still black. That was pretty cool.

Now Ichigo is the one with the dress.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41EZMRPfNML._AA280_.jpg

[AizenvsUrahara]

the chapter was far better than I feared it would be and suddenly we have narration from Ishida from a future perspective.

[Matt]

Ugh I hate this chapter...Just cause I have to wait another week to see what happens *Cries*

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/347/02/

^ That looks awfully a lot like Hichigo...Weird..., just had to mention that.

I just see no need for Ulquorria showing his true power, if he was alread destroying ichigo, why go in "overkill" mode like mentioned.

Obviously there is something more to this, maybe ulquorria is scared, or maybe he's trying to get Hichigo out to fight with Ichigo's supposely higher power than Ulq.

In Before Ichigo goes Super Saiyan at some point during the fight :D

And I really hope Ichigo doesn't need to get mad cause Ulq is going to go after orihime then Ichigo goes all Super Shinigami Vizard Getsuga x 10000 on Ulq, that'll be...so obvious.

On the VL issue. The new look for ulq is pretty well, I think kubo is going to tell us if he's a VL. I'm still going with him not being one :). Until then, it can go either way.

EDIT: I just read the Naruto chapters...both of them at the end show a super awesome looking form...lol, These 2 series deff like to mimic each other

[randizzle]

The VL debate isn't quite moot. If we do find out Ulquiorra's status then we can gage and speculate the fights in FK and the power of the top three. Its quite depressing for the good guys.
And I must say, Ichigo's nipple is very well drawn. Must guys would just put a dot or something. But nope total nippage.

[Captain Abarai]

Well, we have our answer. Ulq. keeps powering up because Ichigo won't give in to despair the way Ulq has.

Damn good point!

The questions to Orihime, the resolve of Ichigo, the help from Ishida--none of this makes any sense to an Arrancar who watches Yammi choke two female arrancar to death.

Exactly. This is the *heart* at work. Or lack of for a Hollow.

To delve in power speculation...funny how Ulquiorra sees Ichigo's brand of Hollow power as a fake or imitation, and he's right, Ichigo has the mask, the outer shell, but the Instinct isn't quite behind it yet :D probably why it is BROKEN so easily.

The greatest part of Ichigo's resolve is that he's smiling. He knows he's losing, and he is determined to win despite obviously fighting someone more powerful than him. By a lot.

Yea we saw this *growth* of Ichigo since he was able to see *that level* of Ulquiorra's sword. Even though he's losing, it's far better than that WTF face we're so used to seeing.

Feels like Kubo is trying to tie everybody into this growth of Ichigo.

[fifenfk]

Just read it and this chapter is nothing short of amazing.Ichigo getting his ass handed to him never looked this beautiful...last time i saw something of this level was when he and grimjoww fought.Now all i await is the come back...should be even better.

[chinaman1472]

Another slow week. We've seen enough of Ichigo getting schooled and Ulquiorra flexing his abilities. Would've been nice to see some more progression in the fight.

[Athane]

Just read it and this chapter is nothing short of amazing.Ichigo getting his ass handed to him never looked this beautiful...last time i saw something of this level was when he and grimjoww fought.Now all i await is the come back...should be even better.

Indeed

10 out of fucking 10, 5 stars, owned, LOLWTFBBQ L33tSP34K this chapter was amazing.

Can't wait for Next week FUCK YES

Ulq's 3rd form is the MOTHER FUCKING SHIT FUCK YEA!

[fourwalls]

OH my god. I almost had a heart attack. That was a great chapter. 10/10.

The part with Ishida and Orihime was beautiful. There are no other words to explain it. You can just feel the love in Ishida's action. Too bad Orihime is blind not to see this. It seems that the help Ichigo will be getting will be from them. I just suddenly felt like Orihime will die as I was reading that chapter, is she is going to step in in the fight... the part about regret...

As for the Ulq Ichigo fight. What the hell, Ulquiorra screamed. It got me dumbfounded. First time he opened his mouth that much. Ichigo does not have anything against Ulquiorra. He's dead. I just wonder why Ulquiorra isn't killing him. And the most intruiging part was that Ulquiorra got angry/frustrated at Ichigo's attempt. There is still much to learn about Ulq, and yes his speech of despair. Maybe, in the next chapter, when he is about to kill Ichigo, we'll get some flashbacks. Truly, Ulq didn't need his second release to defeat ichigo. THere were already a lot of openings as it is.

Anyway, that release was awesome. I mean, the best yet.

[Alan the Cowboy Killer]

Another slow week. We've seen enough of Ichigo getting schooled and Ulquiorra flexing his abilities. Would've been nice to see some more progression in the fight.

Who is this "we" you refer to? :bigsmile:

This was one of the best chaps I've read, 10/10. Every page was memorable.

I find it interesting that Ishida is speaking in the past tense...although this is an early translation, so I'm going to wait until mangahut releases theirs 'till im satisfied. Whatever, it only adds to the chap's sense of doom.

That's right. DOOM. Ichigo is fucked.

[Matt]

I don't believe it was a 2nd release.

I think it was more of just showing his full release, his true hollow appearance, only if kubo says different.

Hey guys, remember, Yammi is most likely not dead, he can't die without showing us his release. If ishida tries to go up, yammi is going to pop up and fight ishida, I'm like 95% sure.

What I don't want to see is anyone step in the fight with Ulq...Zaraki, Mayuri, Byakuya, and unohana are still around. Unohana should be stronger than ulq, so if they fight, that'll suck :(. I doubt the other 3 are. Even tho Zaraki's Kendo is extreme, but he even said himself he was close to dying in the nnorita fight.

[Random]

awesome, now if ulq has a second stage so does ichigo.... this is great.

[Soujirou]

well i changed my mind, not about what will happen to Ichigo ofc, since he cant even stand up, got that wtf face like he did against kenpachi at first, so that means he fears Ulquiorra, who is much more powerful than him, a Demon, literally, so he isn't pulling that off alone im afraid since he does not have neither the strength nor the will to fight anymore.

now about that which was probably the most important scene of this episode, it is pretty clear now that Ishida loves Inoue, and he is going to take her up there to help, but during that whole page, he was talking on the past sense, like he was narrating those events, and his last line...probably means that something bad is going to happen.

[hcaelb]

I don't believe it was a 2nd release.


I agree. I don't think it's a second release, just another form. The first form looked more angelic while this new form is more demonic.

[dakidd39668]

Lol how can some of you think that Hichigo would just own Ulq like nothing? We haven't even seen Ulq full release yet. If he is a vaste lorde then Ichigo isn't winning this fight. Also how can Ulq turn good? Isn't that role reserved for Grimmjow? Anyway something will cause this fight to halt, someone will help ichigo here. My money is on inoue helping him by trying to reason with Ulq or some crap like that.

I just read that Inoue want to go to the Dome. Yep she will save Ichigo one way or another.

[fourwalls]

now about that which was probably the most important scene of this episode, it is pretty clear now that Ishida loves Inoue, and he is going to take her up there to help, but during that whole page, he was talking on the past sense, like he was narrating those events, and his last line...probably means that something bad is going to happen.

aye yes, the past tense... Probably why I got that ominous feeling. I think something bad will happen to Inoue.

[Takalo]

This is a 10/10 chapter for me. The pace might be a little slow and you don't see much fighting, but there's some crazy stuff happening with these characters. Interesting dynamics, to be sure.

I think it would be interesting if Ichigo asks his Hollow to take over completely and then stand aside while the Hollow tears Ulquiorra to pieces. We've seen him slowly casting away his fear of his instincts repeatedly throughout Hueco Mundo, perhaps now we'll see him embrace the instincts instead.

Somebody mentioned that Ichigo has always increased his power when he was focusing on victory. Ichigo's power boosts come from wanting to crush his enemies. Seems to me that he's going to end up hurting real bad and then seek the ability to overcome that which stands in his way. And the only way he can do that is by embracing his Hollow.

It pissed Grimmjow off that he could be beaten up so badly and still look at him with those eyes - eyes like he was going to win. Probably seeing a repeat of that here. Definitely excited for next week's chapter.

EDIT: Ulquiorra is very unique. He has much higher control of his reiatsu than any other Espada we've seen thus far. We've seen him fight at two levels unreleased and now two levels released. He also addressed the eyes differently than Grimmjow did. Grimmjow simply said it pisses him off, but Ulquiorra is much more descriptive. Interesting things to note for the 4+ Vasto Lorde crowd.

[Slickz0r]

Best chapter in a long time. Just freaking awesome.

The way Ishida has his monologue the last two or three chapters? in past tense, it's like someone is going to die. Someone of the good guys. Telling him he regrets his decisions and so on; I can't see more than a few options: 1. Inoue dies 2. Ichigo "dies", and zangetzu will manifest himself as shirosaki, going rampage maybe. Maybe not too probable that Inoue is killed off, considering it's Bleach we're talking about.

Ichigo showed some real spine in this fight, even though the difference is vast he kept his ground. Seems like his doubts are gone and he's willing to.. die for the cause.

Either way this was VERY suspense, opening alot of opportunities. Ulquoirras full? release looked plain awesome, and alot more mature. He actually did look fucking horrific. Also the way he showed his emotions... plain awesome. His eyes almost looks like Vichigos.

10/10, best in a long time.

[VanquishedAngel]

That was a great chapter if not for Ulquiorra's display of emotion... .. and I don't want to say that Ichigo will not win b/c we know that he always finds a way but he's in som serious sh*t!!! And a great release from Uluqiorra... :amazed:... That is just plain old :cool:... Also have to say good dialogue... I don't know what is up with Ulquiorra's desire to squash all hope but it is interesting to get a good look into his frame of mind. He is not a kindly benevolent "emo-spada"... He's just devoid of all hope. He is one evil guy. Good chapter.. I love Iisida's narrative.. It sounds like something happens to Hime.... perhaps she changes or something..

[dakidd39668]

I really doubt Kubo would kill Inoue off, but I would mark out if he did. I would guess should would get injured badly. Though Kubo should kill of a couple main characters off.

[smacharia8]

Dammit Ogichi just GTFO already!! You don't want your shining moment to be stolen by Orihime, do you?! :cussing:

Or maybe this is supposed to be the turning point for Orihime's powers? After all, Hacchi did say her powers and abilities are defined by her goals or desired outcome, not the natural order of things...or something of the sort.
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/228/16/
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/228/17/



EDIT: It was kinda cute though...seeing Ulquiorra semi-worried about Ichigo, talking about "Why you so determined to come at me even though I can easily wtfpwn you?" IMO if it was someone like Yama this fight would've been over very quick. Maybe this goes back to Ichigo's presumption of Ulquiorra becoming human? If so then I believe Orihime's appearance will some human-like reaction from Ulquiorra.

[Paragon]

I knew Ichigo's mask would completely shatter, but the amount of damage he took overall was a little surprising. Ulquiorra keeps talking about Ichigo just being a mere human and not hollow enough and after this chapter, especially with Ulquiorra's sudden added power boost i could see Orihime sparking the resolve Ichigo requires and then gaining some form of the new power boost himself. Hichigo may be holding back some of the hollow powers still and Ichigo will need to tap into that. I still don't see Hichigo taking over completely.

Good chapter though 8/10.

[UlquiorraKuchiki]

10/10 for this chapter. Ishida talking in past tense about regret? Hmmm, I hope this means Inoue is going to die or something. Ichigo getting his ass severely kicked over and over is always great to see. Emotion from Ulquiorra? I was surprised but he sure as hell looked enforcing, and his secondary release looks amazing.

[Xova]

Fucking Epic.
Edit: Holy shit that black cero took out a pretty big chunk of Las Noches' dome. And that's not even Ulq at full power.

[gorgonzola]

Great chapter. 10/10. The second release was OK. The great part is when Ulquiorra finally gets emotional. Great as it is, I can't help but think this chapter should've been last week's. Last week's chapter 346, although passable, barely served any purpose IMO.

As for possibility of good guy death, it might be Ishida. Since he couldn't say no to Inoue, he'll probably take a hit for her as well. Considering he is 100% human, he can't take any hit like Ichigo did as a Shinigami/Vizard, one powered-up kick from an Arrancar he's pretty much done for.

[yuidiot]

maybe ichigo would willingly swap that king & his horse roles with his inner hollow in order to defeat ulq only to have unohana reverse that again somehow, just a thought

[Yayap]

It pissed Grimmjow off that he could be beaten up so badly and still look at him with those eyes - eyes like he was going to win. Probably seeing a repeat of that here.

Good observation Takalo. Nice to see that Ichigo is standing his ground & fighting on even though he knows that there is little or no hope of victory. Another confirmation of his growth and maturation as a warrior.

The damage Ichigo took from that cero was about what I'd hoped for, but I never expected that it would actually happed, not to that extent. Ulquiorra is continuing to totally outclass Ichigo. 10/10

[manje10]

10/10 awesome chapter.

Ulquiorra's reaction face bit was so out of character for him that it was shock seeing it, Ishida regretting taking Inoue to the dome makes me assume someone dies or gets badly injured.

Black cero was insanely powerfull and i didnt expect it to do that much damage and Ulquiorra's final appearance was epic.

[xPyrox]

Hooohhh.. shit.

Bye Ichigo.

Bleach is over. Everyone go home. He's fucked.
I thought maybe he could get a powerup and win. But theres no way in hell Ichigo's gonna pull this one out.

[-MaNi-]

10/10 chapter for me! loved ulq's new look compared to his old one, definately more his 'style'. Ichigo is royally screwed, but you still have to give it to him for smiling on! the next few chapters could be make or break though... the thought of orihime going up there.. isnt something im looking forward to.. if i hear one more 'kurosaki-kuuuun' and then a random powerup for ichigo, im finished with bleach... doubt ishida can do much except distract ulq..

orihime is DEFINATELY going to either, get hurt pretty badly, die or undergo something bad (like.. maybe going on to their side.. no idea, but something that ichigo and ishida wont be happy about).. ishida talking in past tense seems to hint that something bad will happen to orihime, and seeing how this is so similar to naruto at the moment (hinata came to save ichigo... she got stabbed.. no one if she's dead, but naruto came busting out 6 tails and a new look... so maybe his hillow will make an appearance... well overdue!)


and to all those who are asking why ulq actually got angry for once in his life and why he's not finishing ichigo off... read plotkaislayer's post -- post #173, page 18

[Yayap]

Well, we have our answer. Ulq. keeps powering up because Ichigo won't give in to despair the way Ulq. has. The questions to Orhime, the resolve of Ichigo, the help from Ishida--none of this makes any sense to an Arrancar who watches Yammi choke two female arrancar to death. Ichigo barely has the strength left to stand and won't give up. The greatest part of Ichigo's resolve is that he's smiling. He knows he's losing, and he is determined to win despite obviously fighting someone more powerful than him. By a lot.

The whole VL question seems beside the point. VL or not, Ulq. is not interesting because of his power but because he wants to reduce the world to despair. We finally saw him lose it in this chapter. He's furious he can't force Ichigo to give up--giving up is something a person does himself. It's a choice, and it's the one thing Ichigo still has power over in this fight. If Ulq. kills Ichigo without first making him give into despair, then Ulq. loses. It's that simple. And perhaps not in our eyes, but in his.

Finally, the whole Hichigo/OMZ thing seems beside the point, as well. Ichigo doesn't need a power up. He needs a miracle.

QFT. His eyes have even gone back to normal at the end of the chapter, despite them staying black for a bit after losing the mask.

Anyone else notice the similarity of this to the last fight between Ichigo & Ulquiorra? When Ulquiorra was standing in front of the hole in the wall, I half expected Ichigo to try to stab him where his tattoo is again.

[-MaNi-]

^^ lol yeah, i was thinking of that when i saw it... looked too similar!

[fastaslightning]

That was one hell of a chapter. To tell you the truth I know that Ichigo is being owned but his smile suggests that he knows something that he won't tell Ulq. I am not saying it will be a WTF own but I do think that he is going to pull some shit out and whack Ulq enough to slice him open.

He is way too confident. Possibly he has Hichigo SCREAMING in his ear, telling him to just let go, and he will solve this crap. We know his inner hollow is capable of his own cero's and Hichigo has used the GT very effectively(more effectively in many cases). I know that Ichigo has matured as a warrior but this much confidence when his mask(arguably the reason he is even alive at this point) was shattered, seems way too far out of character for him. He KNEW he was stronger than Grim, so he had confidence he could feel it, now he supposedly knows he is weaker, and he is just as confident. Something doesn't play.

Possibly it will be the Inoue (goku) theme that makes him realize his friends are going to die that makes him push further, but that would be WAY too predictable, and retarded.

Chris

[Tox-sama]

^I think that was kinda the point...

Anyhow, I loved this chapter, though I worry about Hime-chan now. Ulquiorra looked... freaky. I had a dream some nights ago with Ulquiorra screaming, and now he did it. I am psychic ^^

In a battle someone is always going to be stronger, or else the battle would be impossible. But if you'd give up only knowing the other one is stronger, than there wouldn't be any battles. You need to overcome them, that's what is called an "underdog". God how I wanted to scream that to Ulquiorra...

[fifenfk]

The fact the ichigo is fighting this hard means that there is a underlying motive to that cynical smile i dont know maybe he just wanted ulquiorra to show him the full extent of his power so that ichigo could gauge what kinda power level he needs to be at to overcome and eventually pwn ulquiorra.I just get the idea ichigo is hiding something.

[UlquiorraKuchiki]

Yeah Ichigo smiled.....but that look of sheer terror in his eyes the moment before we see Ulquiorra transform again says he was bluffing lol Ulquiorra read Ichigo's poker face and raised him a transformation =P

[Yayap]

Maybe it's just me, but it doesn't look like we have seen the full extent of Ulquiorra's transformation yet. On the last page, it looks like the black rain that appeared when he released is falling behind him/from him. Maybe it's covering his lower half, and indeed some of his chest and arms. It certainly doesn't look like clothes or fur to my eyes.
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/347/18-19/

[Intense]

'Second form' looked cool

[darkp]

Well this is the best chapter for ulqi vs ichigo ı think. I give others 5/10 but this one take from me definently 10/10 . At least we saw black cero effect , some bashing , what could gone happen in next chapter, power cap of ulqi and 1 final release only in 1 chapter. (I am not sure about is this a "final release" imo : D )

[fractal]

ulquiorra joined KISS!

[UlquiorraKuchiki]

Maybe it's just me, but it doesn't look like we have seen the full extent of Ulquiorra's transformation yet. On the last page, it looks like the black rain that appeared when he released is falling behind him/from him. Maybe it's covering his lower half, and indeed some of his chest and arms. It certainly doesn't look like clothes or fur to my eyes.
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/347/18-19/

Just remember it's still early days yet. We'll have to wait until the next chapter to find out the extent of Ulquiorra's powers. I would say that this is Ulquiorra's final form simply because any more forms would just turn into Frieza all over again and become overkill.

[Furret]

Oh... Ichigo`s loosing... What a surprise...

[justin43]

Ulquiorra looks like a shingami from Death Note now.:bigsmile: I think we can safety say that Ulquiorra is not a bat. I don't know what that is.:amused:

[vastroLordeIchigo]

it still may not be a second form ulq might have just been holding back his full transformation, just to make sure ichigo doesn't get too sure of himself. thats all

either way if his hollow gets into this ulq is dead added with the zangetsu power up its obvious ichigo can still win. remember ichigo couldn't cut zaraki

[Furret]

I don`t get, why is Ulquiorra, such a stoic guy, so much disconcerted about Ichigo still not givving up. He didn`t seem like being so much keen on his own power and ego. He seems really pissed off. This Really lowers his lvl as far as my fanlist is concerned. Just another unbeatable Grimm or Noi type(thinking- I am unbeatable, I am the strongest... And being so obsessed with the power of oneself) to be beated X_X

[vastroLordeIchigo]

kubo should confirm its not a 2nd release cause its basically the same thing like noitora growing more arms so....

[UlquiorraKuchiki]

either way if his hollow gets into this ulq is dead added with the zangetsu power up its obvious ichigo can still win. remember ichigo couldn't cut zaraki

Just because his hollow gets involved doesn't mean he's going to win. Ichigo couldn't cut Kenpachi because he didn't know how, but this is a completely different case. Ulquiorra atm is far more powerful than Ichigo and it will take more than simply his hollow or Zangetsu to get him out of this mess.

[Yayap]

Nnoitra held back 2 arms initially after releasing, while Ggio Vega (the arrancar Soifon fought) also had a transformation some time after releasing. Did anyone count that as an extra state of release/2nd release? It is just them holding back some of their released form. Even Allon partly transformed when Yamamoto stabbed him through the chest.

[UlquiorraKuchiki]

Nnoitra held back 2 arms initially after releasing, while Ggio Vega (the arrancar Soifon fought) also had a transformation some time after releasing. Did anyone count that as an extra state of release/2nd release? It is just them holding back some of their released form. Even Allon partly transformed when Yamamoto stabbed him through the chest.

Grand Fisher also had another form which wasn't a release incase anyone hadn't remembered. I would say that all of these are not extra releases but merely additional forms to increase overall strength. Although I'm not sure if Nnoitra's arms count since he had them from the start, he just prefers to keep them hidden so he can surprise his opponent.

[vastroLordeIchigo]

kubo should confirm its not a 2nd release cause its basically the same thing like noitora growing more arms so....

either way all 3 of them working together should be enough.

ulq is still dead cause if he beats or kills ichigo he's still gonna keep fighting since hes locked in HM with serveral captains and a quincy

but hey he might win :)

[Razvan_Asakura]

Grand Fisher also had another form which wasn't a release incase anyone hadn't remembered. I would say that all of these are not extra releases but merely additional forms to increase overall strength. Although I'm not sure if Nnoitra's arms count since he had them from the start, he just prefers to keep them hidden so he can surprise his opponent.

If you look closely in the last page, he has no mask, as in it's just 2 big horns now. Will that make him a VL? Will that probably be a new addition to his power? Meh..most likely.
I still say it's a little bit weird, but let's not jump to conclusions so fast.

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/347/18-19/

[HipHopShinigami]

GREAT CHAPTER!

This fight gets better and better. The fact Ishida spoke in the past tense wit regret clearly means that Inoue might actually die and if that happens I pretty much would be glad. What was up wit Ulq showing so much emotion? I was completely shocked he broke liked that in did a complete 180..He seemed to be too pissed that Ichigo still has the motive and will and hope...the human hollow talk was kinda interesting too...maybe it will lead to Ulq back story..

Ulq release at the end was pretty sick and very demon like, which fits him perfectly...hope he still has that weapon though...

So does the final stage of his release prove he is not a VL? Cause i thought it was said VLs resemble more of a human form...

Disclaimer: (People need to stop wit the Naruto spoilers. Coming from someone who just watches the anime only, u guys are fucking killing me.)

[IchiRuki08]

Well with the last page I think we've finally seen a VL. I gotta say Ulq Batman just turned to Ulq Bad Ass ^^. He looks really cool. Ichigo really is pulling a Goku for sure now. Remember when goku went against frieza he pulled this crap. Laughing fighting a guy whos way more powerful then him. Saying he'll still beat him no matter what.

If thats Ulq final form I'm happy cause again he looks fucking bad ass. And he does look like a shingumi from death note now lol.

[Yayap]

Grand Fisher also had another form which wasn't a release incase anyone hadn't remembered. I would say that all of these are not extra releases but merely additional forms to increase overall strength. Although I'm not sure if Nnoitra's arms count since he had them from the start, he just prefers to keep them hidden so he can surprise his opponent.

Good point, forgot about Grand Fisher.

HipHopShinigami - remember that Ichigo told Ishida to shield Inoue with his body if neccesary, and Ishida said he planed to do that anyway. This chapter together with that one (The Pride, iirc) are clearly foreshadowing something. Ulquiorra talking about true dispair suggests that he may resort to threatening Inoue when she arrives to break Ichigo's spirit. One of them (Ishida/Inoue) is in trouble soon.

Edit: just remembered that Ryuken (Ishida's dad) said to Isshin after they left to rescue Inoue that it was up to Ishida whether or not to keep his powers alive, and whether or not he would live or die. (probably a throw-away remark, but could also be foreshadowing).

Although Ishida Obviously survives since he is recounting his feelings at that time. But maybe it will be the devastation Inoue feels upon seeing Ichigo that he refers to. He wouldn't want to see her upset.

[kirwan464]

Well i have a wierd theory that has been goin through my head and that is that orihime will finally get her killing intent that she needs and considering her ability is to erase things from existence and change what has happened in the past so my thought is that she erases Ulquoirra from existence. Fair enough it wont be a great ending to the fight but its very possible. I think it has all been leading up to this as she is always upset after she is useless in a fight. I think she may actually be the strongest character in bleach just because of her ability but not really to do with actual strength.
And i now have a whole new respect for ulq i no longer think of him as the emo from bleach

[HipHopShinigami]

Ulq will try to teach Ichigo a lesson in despair when he kills Inoue right in front of him just to completely break his resolve..its clear he couldve killed Ichigo since the initial release, so why is it so important for Ichigo to give up? What makes Ulq get off to seeing someone completely lose hope? Maybe "the Lust" is for Ulquoirra wanting that satisfaction of Ichigo feeling completely hopeless and giving up...

[Stri]

Nnoitra held back 2 arms initially after releasing, while Ggio Vega (the arrancar Soifon fought) also had a transformation some time after releasing. Did anyone count that as an extra state of release/2nd release? It is just them holding back some of their released form. Even Allon partly transformed when Yamamoto stabbed him through the chest.

Cirucci Thunderwitch was able to do this as well. It's not necessarily a 'second' release, considering he never finished the first one. He was only half way there.

[UlquiorraKuchiki]

Well i have a wierd theory that has been goin through my head and that is that orihime will finally get her killing intent that she needs and considering her ability is to erase things from existence and change what has happened in the past so my thought is that she erases Ulquoirra from existence. Fair enough it wont be a great ending to the fight but its very possible. I think it has all been leading up to this as she is always upset after she is useless in a fight. I think she may actually be the strongest character in bleach just because of her ability but not really to do with actual strength.
And i now have a whole new respect for ulq i no longer think of him as the emo from bleach

For starters, there is no way that Ulquiorra would allow her to do such a thing. Yes she has a hax ability, but she isn't very great at putting it into practice, especially her attacking front. Ishida's past tense words to me are foreshadowing that something bad is going to happen to her. Most likely she will die *fingers crossed* lol

[HipHopShinigami]

Good point, forgot about Grand Fisher.

HipHopShinigami - remember that Ichigo told Ishida to shield Inoue with his body if neccesary, and Ishida said he planed to do that anyway. This chapter together with that one (The Pride, iirc) are clearly foreshadowing something. Ulquiorra talking about true dispair suggests that he may resort to threatening Inoue when she arrives to break Ichigo's spirit. One of them (Ishida/Inoue) is in trouble soon.

Edit: just remembered that Ryuken (Ishida's dad) said to Isshin after they left to rescue Inoue that it was up to Ishida whether or not to keep his powers alive, and whether or not he would live or die. (probably a throw-away remark, but could also be foreshadowing).

As one of the few people who have Ishida as a favorite character in Bleach, im just gonna pray that doesnt happen. I can't see Ishida dying just yet, he has more room for character development. He has potential to be a great Quincy and the story between him and his dad has yet to be concluded. Kubo better not off Ishida i would lose it.

[IchiRuki08]

Well i have a wierd theory that has been goin through my head and that is that orihime will finally get her killing intent that she needs and considering her ability is to erase things from existence and change what has happened in the past so my thought is that she erases Ulquoirra from existence. Fair enough it wont be a great ending to the fight but its very possible. I think it has all been leading up to this as she is always upset after she is useless in a fight. I think she may actually be the strongest character in bleach just because of her ability but not really to do with actual strength.
And i now have a whole new respect for ulq i no longer think of him as the emo from bleach

Well something is going to happen. Orihime power's awaking? People wtf... She cant even handle 2 hollow girls that suck but shes going to stop a Ulq? No she may die or maybe she wont. Kubo is really doing a great job with Ulq here. I'm almost as interested in whats going to happen next with his newest release as I am with Rukia sama.. *gasps* I know its crazy eh? But you cant just gain killing intent and become a warrior just by people pissing you off. She hasnt trained at all for what Ichigo and Ulq are doing. Also AGAIN her powers come from little fairy's which Nori's subordinate explained are very easy to destroy.

The only way she can erase anyone is if they where KO'ed and unable to move lol.

If anything is going to happen Orihime is going to go up there and say just stop it now Ulq. Please.. I'll go with you, I wont ever leave aizen or think of leaving. Just please dont kill (twiches) Kurosaki kun.

Ulq: ya.. I'm going to kill him and take you anyway

Orihime: ...oh

Ichigo: get the hell out of here Orihime! I said 2 chapters ago that I need you away from this fight.

Orihime: Kuro..saki....kun!?

Ichigo: ok.. please stop saying my last name so fucking much

[Yayap]

I'm leaning more towards it being a personality change upon seeing Ichigo beaten - i.e. finally getting the killing intent to use Tsubaki correctly, to hurt or maybe even kill Ulquiorra (which won't be successful, maybe only rejects his arrancarization instead or something, imo). Ishida maybe won't like what he sees. Maybe he thinks she should remain the kind, gentle soul she is, rather than a killer.

Anyway, after re-reading the chapter yet again, I have come to notice the prominence of Ulquiorra's Hollow Hole lately. On page 11, you can actually see right through it and out the other side. That outfit draws attention to the hole. Maybe all this talk of being Human & the heart will culminate in Ulquiorra rediscovering his heart, and thus the hole will close up. It's a bit out there, I know. But you've got to admit, attention is being drawn to it.

[vastroLordeIchigo]

If you look closely in the last page, he has no mask, as in it's just 2 big horns now. Will that make him a VL? Will that probably be a new addition to his power? Meh..most likely.
I still say it's a little bit weird, but let's not jump to conclusions so fast.

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/347/18-19/
wtf are you talking about it still counts as a mask

[pumpkin13]

Ichigo looks to be pretty much in the state he was in just before Noitra broke his arm then handed him over to Tesla to play with.

Yeah Ulquiorra's "semi-transformation" let me down a lot, it was a majore anticlimax, but this full transformation looks badass. although like many others i'm still questioning whether it was really necesarry, Ulquiorra could easily have finished Ichigo as he was.

And yeah, Ishida's "I would come to regret it" words intrigue me greatly. I can see only one of two things happening really; Orihime gets killed in the crossfire or by Ulquiorra, or her going up there one final time starts to trigger some kind of transformation within her which results in her going over to Aizen's side.

[plotkaislayer]

I'm feeling a little frustrated right now. Obviously, Ulq. could have killed Ichigo in this chapter, but Ulq. doesn't want to. You may want him to, but that doesn't matter. I noticed that 6 people actually ranked this chapter as a 1 out of 10. That's crazy to me. This fight was, in retrospect, never about the clash of wills like with Grimmjow. It was about the relationship between Ichigo and his friends. This theme goes all the way back to the chapters in the 200s when the Nakama start training to improve their abilities. Ichigo is trying to fight Ulq. alone like he did in the past, and it's pointless. That's what Ulq. wants to explain to Ichigo. Yet, what keeps Ichigo from despair is his friends. Maybe this is corny or dissatisfying to some readers, but it shouldn't surprise or disappoint those readers. Go back and read the first 50 chapters of Bleach. Were they about "power levels" or "pwnage"? No. We shouldn't be surprised, then, that the ones in the 350s aren't, either.

So, to the unhappy readers who wanted wtfbattlez, reread the seven chapters in a row and try to see what's developing between Ichigo and Ulq. Try to see why Orhime is the link, and understand how Ulq.'s full release and Orhime's death are likely in the next chapter. The true test of Ichigo's Vizard training isn't the battle between him and Ulq.; it's the battle Ichigo fights in his soul. If Ichigo dies saving his soul, then Ulq. loses.

[Captain Abarai]

Hmm.

I can't rule out Orihime's death either.

Ulquiorra has to create ideal conditions for despair. So that can't be ruled out, seems to be something deeper than "wowz i jus wtfpwned u".

Broken Tensa Zangetsu, Orihime getting killed..it could happen.

[Yadomaru]

Meh. As expected, I actually think that except for the dopey coat, Ulquiorra looked better before.
That said, this chapter gets a definite 9/10 from me.
Because any time Ichigo is getting the shit pounded out of him is good by me.
Also, Ulquiorra actually momentarily losing it was a great shot.

[Starzen]

great chapter, is it just me or did ichigo just look exactly like hichigo in this chapter. I think inoue will just get injured as kubo never kills non-hollow beings. will ichigo finally accept the fact that both him and hichigo are actually one being.

[killerchink]

i been reading a lot of people saying ishida's words hint that orihime is gna die...but no one has died yet...even when they are the most pointless characters ever ^^

while i hope ulquiorra does kill someone before he gets beaten, i just don't see it happening anytime soon.

saying that...i think KT has done well with Ulquiorra - all ideas as to how he gets beaten that i've read so far include dramatic changes which would not have been dreamt of 20 chapters or so ago.

[Nii-Sama]

I am still shocked that nobody is noticing that this is the exact same thing as the byakua fight. Byakua told ichigo he was stronger and then used his true form then Hichigo came. Same is going on here Ulq. said ichigo wasnt as strong and is now in his true form hichigo will coem out next chapter.

[Chaiba-Sama]

nice chap, ichigo clearly is no match for ulq, but wtf was that thing in the end that ulq did?

[Aaroneiro]

I am still shocked that nobody is noticing that this is the exact same thing as the byakua fight. Byakua told ichigo he was stronger and then used his true form then Hichigo came. Same is going on here Ulq. said ichigo wasnt as strong and is now in his true form hichigo will coem out next chapter.

Byakuya wasn't stronger than Ichigo, his Senkei just had the ability to worsen the wounds Ichigo took from his bankai, and Shirosaki appearing wouldn't make sense because Ichigo's alreay been using his power; his mask.

[Xel_MK]

I am still shocked that nobody is noticing that this is the exact same thing as the byakua fight. Byakua told ichigo he was stronger and then used his true form then Hichigo came. Same is going on here Ulq. said ichigo wasnt as strong and is now in his true form hichigo will coem out next chapter.

Hmmm... I personally don't like predicting fights based on previous instances, however I agree with the above assumptions, especially assuming it's Kurosaki we're talking about. After all, we all know Kurosaki can't die (the "near-death experience of the protagonist" motif was pretty much used up when Ulq punched a whole through his chest), hence he must either defeat Ulq. (which pretty much hints at the above quote) or survive long enough till some kind of relief force arrives (be it a new Inoue-induced-plotkai supply, Captain Unohana, or whomsoever else).

At any rate I must agree with some of the previous posters- Yes, Taito did a great job with Ulquiorra's release- especially so assuming the last page of this chapter. Real great... yeah...


...damnit... so much for my bankai-idea for my imaginary shinigami character... back to the blackboard... (I knew I should've copyrighted it =P).

[Wras]

Pretty bitchin chapter. A lot of quality art as always, surprise raeg from Ulquiorra (which I found amusing as well as awesome) and leaves me wanting more. Pacing could've been a little better with the earlier pages but hey, whatcha gonna do. 9/10.

[Matt]

No one should forget about Yammi. He's still around...Ishida and Orihime might not even leave the dome, even though this chapters hints they will.

But orhime dying...that'll be the best, I pretty much hate her lol.

And yes it does look like Hichigo appeared for a split second when the mask broke. That looks Exactly like Hichigo. (Shown in WRAS's Avatar)

Now if Hichigo comes out, Ulq should lose, since Ulq himself said Ichigo at his highest point is stronger then Ulq. I don't want anyone other then Hichigo/Zangetsu to help ichigo.

[Ulquiorra Schiffer]

lol, thats a true emo..

srsly, I didnt like half of the chapter since it was talking about sth Ulq said like 500 times =C

[paradise_found]

i been reading a lot of people saying ishida's words hint that orihime is gna die...but no one has died yet...even when they are the most pointless characters ever ^^

man, i took that as a sign that ishida's gonna get hurt real bad. or maybe kick the bucket. that would be a pretty stunning twist.