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Savage
03-31-2009, 04:03 AM
discuss this week's spoilers here..

btill9000
03-31-2009, 08:49 AM
Whats their to discuss. Im just waiting on this Naruto business to finish. After this is all over Sasuke will show up and try to take Naruto while he's completely chakraless, and it will be Team Gai versus Sasuke's group.

Im convinced that team Gai has a purpose. Their is no other reason for them to have been in the process of coming back to the village for like 6 chapters.

justin43
03-31-2009, 08:57 AM
I don't trust early spoilers that come out at this time without pics.:suspicious: With that said, that seems odd for Naruto to use 100 clones and waste a lot of chakra when he could have done the same with just 4 or 5 clones.:oh: That seems more like old Naruto's way of doing things.:rolleyes:

Miyazaki-Hizashi
03-31-2009, 09:26 AM
yeah, it´s april fools day in japan today already, so it maybe false, but if not, i want to see pics!!!! and yeah it resembles his old way of doing things, but maybe only because he has no other choice.

logainofhades
03-31-2009, 09:43 AM
Perhaps it was done as a distraction or perhaps the 100 was done out of desperation...

justin43
03-31-2009, 10:05 AM
Perhaps it was done as a distraction or perhaps the 100 was done out of desperation...

The problem with that is that Part 2 Naruto has only use the number of clones necessary to fight in every battle thus far in part 2. Using 100s of clones now seems like two steps back in intelligence, which doesn't make that much sense.:weird:

As for the unbolded, I agree that it is possible that Naruto is getting desperate enough to do this, but I have my suspicions.:suspicious:

Vergil
03-31-2009, 10:06 AM
I doubt Kishimoto will have 1 colour page focused on boobs....

tbrooks
03-31-2009, 10:41 AM
I think it is a fake for two reasons. It is April Fools tomorrow and Naruto said that he could only make three clones in battle when in sage mode and he would have had to make the 100 clones from the spoiler while in sage mode, which he says he can't do because it will mess up the one focusing sage chakra.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/434/15/

xPyrox
03-31-2009, 01:12 PM
I think it is a fake for two reasons. It is April Fools tomorrow and Naruto said that he could only make three clones in battle when in sage mode and he would have had to make the 100 clones from the spoiler while in sage mode, which he says he can't do because it will mess up the one focusing sage chakra.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/434/15/

He didn't have a clone gathering sage chakra back at the frog place though.
That had gone when he went all fox, and he went into sage mode after he came out of fox on his own. So he could make as many as he wanted.

Miyazaki-Hizashi
03-31-2009, 01:46 PM
he iosn´t in sage mode anymore at that time, he gets out of Sage mode after throughing the 2nd Rasenshuriken.

arishkegal
03-31-2009, 02:55 PM
I want to see scans, so until then I'm saying that it is fake:finger:

Reason why:

How are we getting so much detail so early in the week (Tuesday)? Don't we usually get this on Wednesday with the scans?:suspicious:

tbrooks
03-31-2009, 03:54 PM
He didn't have a clone gathering sage chakra back at the frog place though.
That had gone when he went all fox, and he went into sage mode after he came out of fox on his own. So he could make as many as he wanted.
I misread it. I thought it said it would interfere with the real Naruto while he's in sage mode, and not the ones gathering it back at Myobokuzan. I guess your right. He could use all the clones he wants to. I only have one reason now.

Bankai - Ichigo
03-31-2009, 05:27 PM
Yeah, Naruto said in that chapter that making more than 2 or 3 clones in battle would interfere with the ones gathering Natural Energy at Myobokuzan. And according to this spoiler, Naruto only made 100 clones after Sage Mode had run out. Not only that, but Naruto also said in his thoughts that his going Fox mode disrupted his chakra control (or something like that) and caused his last remaining clone at Myobokuzan to disappear, which was why he was already in Sage Mode when he went back to normal from being in Fox mode.

I hope he'd have had the foresight to have the two clones he made for the Rasen Shuriken to hide and start gathering Natural Energy for him in the off-chance that the second Rasen Shuriken fails to take out Pain, since he can only do two Rasen Shuriken shots while in Sage Mode before he can no longer maintain Sage Mode. So if this spoiler is the real one, I'll be disappointed for that reason. But the fact that the Rasengan actually hit Pain would mean that Naruto won.

Vergil
04-01-2009, 08:01 AM
Holy shit Hinata has quite big tits!!Like Orihime has smth like this....

Miyazaki-Hizashi
04-01-2009, 10:17 AM
where did you see that, have you seen pics? and you didn´t realise that until now? i know that since we first saw her in shippuuden. and about the chapter spoiler. show me pics and i believe that this isn´t an april fools day joke.

Vergil
04-01-2009, 11:23 AM
http://b-maniacs.nedr.net/spoilers.php?page=naruto here's the link

Miyazaki-Hizashi
04-01-2009, 11:59 AM
yays, and it is even colored, so thanks for that man. and it seems that Sakura finally realises that she is useless. so i consider the spoiler text now as completly true.

Harbinger_Ichii
04-01-2009, 06:12 PM
:nono: That's not how I wanted this chapter to end. I wanted Deva Path destroyed -> Naruto trash talk -> Jumping to find Nagato frail ass.

Miyazaki-Hizashi
04-01-2009, 11:40 PM
Naruto already found out where he exacly is in the last chapter, so I´m sure he gets there in the chapter after this one. I just hope that this freaky god realm body gets finally destroy. serves him right for hurting Hinata.

Vergil
04-02-2009, 03:00 AM
I couldn't decide because we were never been shown any sight of them and they were always covered by her clothes, the only thing I don't like about Hinata is that she doesn't have pupils(I mean eye ones) and that's kinda weird.

logainofhades
04-02-2009, 06:02 AM
yays, and it is even colored, so thanks for that man. and it seems that Sakura finally realises that she is useless. so i consider the spoiler text now as completly true.

Yea that makes me pretty happy. Seeing Sakura how useless she really is.


I couldn't decide because we were never been shown any sight of them and they were always covered by her clothes, the only thing I don't like about Hinata is that she doesn't have pupils(I mean eye ones) and that's kinda weird.

None of the hyuuga clan/Byakugan users have them to where they are visible until they use the Byakugan. It is not just her.

Vergil
04-02-2009, 08:16 AM
I understand but I think all Hyuuga clan is kinda weird for these eyes unlike Uchiha...

Infinitekaos
04-02-2009, 08:51 AM
Well, God realm finally goes down and Sakura finally made it to Hinata to heal her. About time. Hinata really filled out nicely in Part 2, but its funny that twice we have seen Hinata's coat off and both times she's been on her back nearly dead.

Wonder what will happen when Naruto gets to Nagato. He already knows where he is, he just has to get there.

PervySage12
04-02-2009, 08:39 PM
Umm... I guess we should believe all that can happen in 5 seconds because they move so fast, but do they talk at super speeds too? :sarcasm:

I find it interesting that after all that Pain just gave up. This makes the fight even more similar to the one in bleach imo.

bbqchip
04-02-2009, 08:59 PM
looks like naruto can go sage mode without clones now

Rollingstar
04-02-2009, 09:03 PM
I couldn't decide because we were never been shown any sight of them and they were always covered by her clothes, the only thing I don't like about Hinata is that she doesn't have pupils(I mean eye ones) and that's kinda weird.

No shit, haven't you been reading the manga? all of the Hyuuga clan have no visible pupils.. *face palm*

Vergil
04-02-2009, 09:08 PM
I know that !!!!I just find it weird!!

btill9000
04-02-2009, 09:30 PM
Anyone notice that, after the slide where Neji initially see's Hinata, we don't see him anymore? Did Kishi just leave out drawing him or did he sneak off in anger searching for Pain? Screwball theory I know....but yeh.

notorious UZIMAKI
04-02-2009, 10:14 PM
442 is up! http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/442/01/

tbrooks
04-02-2009, 11:53 PM
I wanted to see god realm get shredded by that Rasen Shuriken, but I'm fine with Naruto winning with a Rasengan since it's "the technique that Jiraiya taught him."

chinaman1472
04-03-2009, 12:05 AM
No dyamnic entry for Gai. Boo.

Smerpy
04-03-2009, 12:26 AM
The very first page,bottom left panel.

Is that jealousy that i see?

Now's all that left is Nagato himself.

Bankai - Ichigo
04-03-2009, 12:45 AM
looks like naruto can go sage mode without clones now

. . . Haven't you been paying attention? Didn't you read the last chapter? Naruto clearly thought to himself in that chapter that because of his having gone into Fox mode, his last remaining Shadow Clone at Myobokuzan had disappeared, alowing the Sage Chakra to back into him. THAT is how he got back into Sage Mode. He was shown having been able to gather Natural Energy while running, but he hadn't mastered it still. So the fact still remains that you have to sit perfectly still to gather Natural Energy. Since Naruto can't do that alone, he needs clones. Now go back and reread the manga starting from the chapter where Naruto first came back to Konoha's Ruins after having mastered Sage Techniques. There are things said in those chapters that I don't want to say myself.

You better not be thinking, "Hey, Naruto can suppress the Kyuubi on his own now?!" just because Katsuya thought that that's what happened. We clearly saw that that's not the case. Minato was the one who did it, by restoring the Seal.

@The rest of the thread: Chapter was good. And no, I don't think Sakura is being jealous when she thinks to herself, "Hinata . . . loves . . . Naruto . . . ". What we should be asking ourselves is, "How does she know?". There's no way she actually heard Hinata say it to Naruto.

And I laughed when I saw the panel with Lee being ignorant about Naruto's new power and saying that he might need help. Any ideas on who is going to fill Team Gai in on what's been going on? I can't wait to see their surprise at Naruto having mastered Sage Techniques and having also been the one who defeated Pain. All factors considered, the looks on their faces should be priceless.

@Smerpy and Vizard: What are the chances that Nagato will lose more chakra and also will cough even more blood because of God Realm being destroyed? Well, actually, we all know it'll happen, so make that, "what are the chances he might die or come to close to dying because of it?". Because, really, Nagato is in for a lot of pain now, and is bound to have gotten a whole lot weaker.

Lnrd
04-03-2009, 04:59 AM
Great Chapter. 9/10

What will Sakura do that she finally realizes Hinata's love for Naruto? That might have finally made her admit her feelings.

And, Nagato's red hair looks cool.

The very first page,bottom left panel.

Is that jealousy that i see?

Now's all that left is Nagato himself.
Yes it is.

chickenlegs90
04-03-2009, 05:16 AM
What we should be asking ourselves is, "How does she know?". There's no way she actually heard Hinata say it to Naruto.

Don't you think most of the characters would have picked up on the fact that Hinata either intensly blushes and/or faints when coming into contact with Naruto?

I'm pretty sure it's not much of a secret that Hinata loves Naruto, even though Hinata has not verbally told anyone.

Vergil
04-03-2009, 05:21 AM
Great chapter 9/10
Color page is awesome and this 5 secs countdown scenes are making the chapter slo-mo

logainofhades
04-03-2009, 06:48 AM
Well considering one of those slugs of Tsunade's is with Naruto it is possible it relayed the info to the one with Sakura exactly what happened. It seems, if I am not mistaken, to be able to communicate with the others that are scattered all over what is left of the village right now. Just a theory though. I do like how Naruto ended with a Rasengan. Seems fitting to end the fight with the one that killed Jiraiya with the technique Naruto learned from Jiraiya himself. Even if it was a bit of the way old Naruto did things with all the clones, it showed how far he has come. His strategy/thinking on his feet in fights just seems to get better and better. The fact that he thought that far ahead really says something about how he has grown. Really looking forward to next chapter.

Infinitekaos
04-03-2009, 08:19 AM
I don't know if the feeling has really sunk into Sakura yet that Hinata confessed to Naruto. I don't think Sakura ever dreamed of someone else caring about Naruto in that way and she might be a bit confused about what she is thinking. I think there may be some sort of feelings welling up inside her that she probably doesn't recognize. This is probably the start of a lot of confused jealously for Sakura toward Naruto and may jump start her own feelings of Naruto.

I thought the fight was good. Naruto is still clever with his Shadow Clones. It was a smart strategy to use the clones to try and pin Pain down to try and let the FRS hit him. He also used his Tajuu Kage Bunshin well by switching to bracing himself after his clones failed to reach Pain within the 5 seconds. He then threw himself to beat the 5 second interval finally. All very good moves. Naruto was always very cunning in his fights, but he is still getting better.

Now I hope he has the foresight to get back into Sage Mode before charging up to challenge Nagato. He may look like a cripple, but who knows what kind of a fight him and Konan will put up. Now that all 6 paths are defeated, he can take a minute or two to prepare and gather his Natural Energy before running off. Or at least setting up a couple shadow clones to gather while he runs off to get to Pain.

Asakujaku
04-03-2009, 09:09 AM
Naruto is a very smart fighter indeed.

justin43
04-03-2009, 09:16 AM
I was worried when I read Naruto use hundreds of clones, but when I read the chapter all was fine. I can't wait to see how Sakura is going to act around Hinata and Naruto for now on.:amused: Finally, Pain is defeated.:yay: :yay: :yay: Now, Naruto only needs to confront both Konan and Nagato. Yeah, I hope Naruto set up some sage mode clones before heading off for the final battle.:guitar1:

Tank
04-03-2009, 12:10 PM
That was an awesome chapter, and the ending was really perfect. The fact that he used the normal Rasengan and how he used the lines from Jiraiya's book made it the perfect way to end that fight.

logainofhades
04-03-2009, 12:32 PM
I was worried when I read Naruto use hundreds of clones, but when I read the chapter all was fine. I can't wait to see how Sakura is going to act around Hinata and Naruto for now on.:amused: Finally, Pain is defeated.:yay: :yay: :yay: Now, Naruto only needs to confront both Konan and Nagato. Yeah, I hope Naruto set up some sage mode clones before heading off for the final battle.:guitar1:



Yea I was not sure what to think of it when I saw the spoilers either. The way he used them was perfect. He knew how strong Pain's attack would be and used his clones perfectly for the situation. I agree about the Sakura comment. I am sure he is smart enough to get the sage mode clones going again. He will need sage mode to find Nagato in the off chance that Konan moves him away from their current location.

Zero-sama
04-03-2009, 01:54 PM
Not an Awesome But a PERFECT chapter indeed. 10 of 10

From the first 2 color pages till the last page of this chapter, it was amazing, overall. This chapter speaks for it self.

Narutos intelligence, strategies and his determination are getting more interesting each time he fights. This chapter did prove it. Really like that Sakura knows that Hinata is in love with Naruto. The shurinken rasengan was awesome, the way Pain evaded it, and the way it cut all the big rocks in the way was nice. Also Naruto kage bushin hidden within all those rocks was impressive even Pain was shocked, the way it ended making an original rasengan, the one Jiraiya showed him, going to be the last move to defeat Pain. A truly epic ending in this chapter.

Off topic: Now I wanna see a rematch between Sasuke and Naruto, even more. This time Naruto will have a HUGE surprise for Sasuke.

justin43
04-03-2009, 02:25 PM
Yep, I can't wait for the day that Sasuke get his . . . kicked.:plotting: :muaha:

Tank
04-03-2009, 03:24 PM
Personally, I'd like to see Sasuke left out of the series for as long as possible. The series always drops in quality whenever he's in the picture.

14M85H4NKZ
04-03-2009, 03:35 PM
Great Chapter, Wonder what there conversation will be like.

AzureFeatherfly
04-03-2009, 04:47 PM
Good fight. I think I might finally start to enjoy Naruto's fights now. This is one of few endings where he is not bloodied up or laying on the ground. This is also a fight that I think Kishimoto paced very nicely without the time spent talking being equal to the fighting.

On the other end, Sakura, Naruto, and Hinata. Interesting development.

My Opinion:

I honestly lost a lot respect after Hinata's confession. If she did not appear due to injury after Pain's nuke, I would have been fine. However the fact that she appeared only after Naruto was in trouble completely swayed me over to NarutoxSakura.

Sakura fought for Konoha, and use her healing ability for the sake of her village. She only fell into despair after Pain dropped the bomb when dozens of other ninjas surperior to her have fallen. There is nothing wrong with that when she was dealing with the dead and injured left and right.

Hinata fought for Naruto with the end result being that more of Konoha was destroyed. She never engaged Pain during the invasion and only mustered enough courage after Naruto was stuck. Yeah, she confessed and it accomplished nothing from the perspective of a Konoha Shinobi. So why is she a Chunnin again compared to others who are actually aware of their priorities?

Sakura fought, protected, and helped dozens of people she did not know.
Hinata fought for one person she knew and loved.

The wife of a future Hokage should not be fighting for her husband but rather protecting the same thing her husband is.

I frankly do not care how much Hinata loves Naruto, my respect for her went down to zero.

(I will now lock myself in the safety room for five minutes to hide from volleys of tomatoes and pancakes)

As for the coupling: Now that Sakura knows of Hinata's feelings, I wonder where Kishimoto intends to go with this. If Sakura steps aside for Hinata to make a move on Naruto, then I think it will shut the door for NarutoxHinata and SasukexSakura.

If you love something, set it free. If it returns, it's yours forever. If it doesn't, it was never yours in the first place.

Naruto set Sakura free in Part I, when he slid off for Sakura and Sasuke to have some alone time after Tsunade healed Sasuke.
If Sakura set Naruto free in Part II
Part III would be.......

Naruto and Sakura have also developed at the same pace, while Hinata is lightyears behind.

So this is going to be interesting.

bbqchip
04-03-2009, 05:25 PM
. . . Haven't you been paying attention? Didn't you read the last chapter? Naruto clearly thought to himself in that chapter that because of his having gone into Fox mode, his last remaining Shadow Clone at Myobokuzan had disappeared, alowing the Sage Chakra to back into him. THAT is how he got back into Sage Mode. He was shown having been able to gather Natural Energy while running, but he hadn't mastered it still. So the fact still remains that you have to sit perfectly still to gather Natural Energy. Since Naruto can't do that alone, he needs clones. Now go back and reread the manga starting from the chapter where Naruto first came back to Konoha's Ruins after having mastered Sage Techniques. There are things said in those chapters that I don't want to say myself.

You better not be thinking, "Hey, Naruto can suppress the Kyuubi on his own now?!" just because Katsuya thought that that's what happened. We clearly saw that that's not the case. Minato was the one who did it, by restoring the Seal.


no, i was thinking i saw his eye in sage mode in the last page.

B_K_E
04-03-2009, 10:56 PM
In the beginning of the manga when Sakura realized in her head "Hinata loves Naruto!" her face was red, was she suprised or jealous?

yaWgnorW
04-05-2009, 10:11 AM
The shadow shuriken is the same technique, but its just used to hide the second one. It doesn't mean its a fake shuriken. He never re-entered Sage mode, however thats not to say he never left it either. he could just on his last little ounce of sage chakra.

xPyrox
04-05-2009, 11:23 AM
yea i already know that. i thought he lost sage mode again after using 2 rasen shuriken but second one was only a shadow shuriken. his eyes look normal here http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/442/16/. so then he reenter sage mode again and use the rasengan on pain.

What are you on about? He didn't reenter sage mode to use the rasengan?

Not only did he not have the time, but on the page right after that, his eyes are still the same..

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/442/17/

Rollingstar
04-05-2009, 01:59 PM
you guys are over analyzing the look on her face. Besides, she didnt say "hinata... loves naruto" that was a mistranslation on sleepyfans part. you lost respect for hinata because she confessed? you sound like your bitter.. get over it.

Bankai - Ichigo
04-05-2009, 02:20 PM
He lost respect for her not because she confessed, but because she only protected Naruto when she could've also fought to protect the rest of the village if she'd only fought beforehand (eg. Before Naruto came back to Konoha). Sakura was healing the wounded and protecting them since before Naruto got there.

AzureFeatherFly was just saying that the wife of a future Hokage needs to be one who not only protects her husband, but also fights for and protects the same thing her husband is protecting.

And if you know so much, then tell me what Sakura really said, please? Because it seems like you're the only one here who understands kanji.

@Previous page: Bbqchip, Naruto was only in Sage Mode this time starting from when he got out of Fox mode up to when used his second Rasen Shuriken, and then he ran out of Natural Energy. And as I said, the reason he was in Sage Mode when he got out of Fox mode was because going into Fox mode had disrupted his chakra control, causing his last remaining Kage Bunshin at Myobokuzan to disappear. That caused all of the Sage Chakra that clone had to go back into the real Naruto, so he was able to reenter Sage Mode. And, yeah, he had normal eyes at the end of the chapter, since he didn't have time to reenter Sage Mode once it ran out after he fired the second Rasen Shuriken.

Tank
04-05-2009, 02:48 PM
He lost respect for her not because she confessed, but because she only protected Naruto when she could've also fought to protect the rest of the village if she'd only fought beforehand (eg. Before Naruto came back to Konoha). Sakura was healing the wounded and protecting them since before Naruto got there.

Hinata has no medical knowledge, how is she supposed to help people in the way Sakura did? She can't heal people, and we have no idea what she was doing before she jumped in to save Naruto.

Besides, the only people there were to fight, which is the only thing that Hinata could've done to help, were Pein bodies and Konan, and Hinata really isn't up to fighting S-class Akatsuki members by herself yet. Not to mention she was being watched over by branch family Hyuuga clan members, and probably was kept from fighting at all since she's basically royalty.

Once Hinata saw that she should do something, she did it, and that thing was protecting and sacrificing herself for the man she loves, even though she knew she had no chance of winning at all. Naruto had taken out all the other Pein bodies, and she jumped in front of the only one left to protect somebody who can protect many more people than she can. Indirectly she helped Konoha a great deal.

Protecting the future Hokage is pretty significant in my book, even if she did it for love, which is a pathetic thing to lose respect over somebody for. "How dare you sacrifice yourself for the person you love!" :wacko:

AzureFeatherFly was just saying that the wife of a future Hokage needs to be one who not only protects her husband, but also fights for and protects the same thing her husband is protecting.

Sakura wasn't protecting anything. She was just doing her healing job. Naruto, Kakashi, Chouji's dad, Fukusaku, etc were doing all the protecting. And yeah, how low for a kunoichi to protect the man she loves.

Bankai - Ichigo
04-05-2009, 07:41 PM
Hinata has no medical knowledge, how is she supposed to help people in the way Sakura did? She can't heal people, and we have no idea what she was doing before she jumped in to save Naruto.

Besides, the only people there were to fight, which is the only thing that Hinata could've done to help, were Pein bodies and Konan, and Hinata really isn't up to fighting S-class Akatsuki members by herself yet. Not to mention she was being watched over by branch family Hyuuga clan members, and probably was kept from fighting at all since she's basically royalty.

Once Hinata saw that she should do something, she did it, and that thing was protecting and sacrificing herself for the man she loves, even though she knew she had no chance of winning at all. Naruto had taken out all the other Pein bodies, and she jumped in front of the only one left to protect somebody who can protect many more people than she can. Indirectly she helped Konoha a great deal.

Protecting the future Hokage is pretty significant in my book, even if she did it for love, which is a pathetic thing to lose respect over somebody for. "How dare you sacrifice yourself for the person you love!" :wacko:



Sakura wasn't protecting anything. She was just doing her healing job. Naruto, Kakashi, Chouji's dad, Fukusaku, etc were doing all the protecting. And yeah, how low for a kunoichi to protect the man she loves.

Don't blame me too much, it was Azure who said it. But both he and you make perfect sense to me, so I can't really choose. Azure lost respect for Hinata, but I didn't.

And, yeah, I realize that Hinata can't heal and also doesn't any knowledge in Medical Ninjutsu. But since she is Royalty, couldn't she have ordered the Branch family members to let her go? When it came to it, she could explain to her parents that she insisted that the Branch Family members let her go.

Also, I think what Azure meant when he said that Sakura was protecting the people, was that she started out trying to help in the fight, but then she went to heal the wounded. The children and future children of Konoha, when thought of as Chess pieces, are the "King" (remember what Asuma and Shikamaru talked about?). Sakura is indirectly protecting the King by healing the wounded. Naruto was doing the same thing by fighting Pain.

I'm not saying it's shameful to fight for the one you love, I'm just saying that when a kunoichi is the wife of a Hokage, she should protect what her husband is protecting, and fight for it when he fights for it. [OK, I think I'm just rambling now, so I'll stop.]

skipshark
04-05-2009, 09:14 PM
Imho, I think naruto shouldn't have wasted his chakra on those two shurikens that missed, but rather used the plan from his first big fight against zabuza where he was disguised as a shuriken and then threw the real one...though Idunno if he could have pulled it off, since he needs kage bunshins to help create the flying rasenshuriken.

The Hinata thing could go either way. However, and this is not the strongest of arguments, it could be said that by disrupting Pein's chakra network, she was helping Naruto defeat him, which could be interpreted as protecting Konoha...however, she was still late to the fight and yes, she could have probably done something about it. The fact is that the Hyuugas probably could have been more helpful against the 6 paths than most of the other ninjas, simply because they are able to disrupt the chakra network.

AzureFeatherfly
04-05-2009, 09:14 PM
Thank you Bankai for trying to clarify my post.

Very simple concept: Hinata is a Konoha Shinobi and a member of the Hyuuga clan that belongs to Konoha. Her number one duty is to protect Konoha, and of course its most important piece is the "King". As far as what was shown before Naruto's return, Sakura did protect the villagers and the "King" by taking that bug while Hinata showed nothing. I think Kishimoto actually did this on purpose to show their differences.

Hinata has no medical knowledge, how is she supposed to help people in the way Sakura did? She can't heal people, and we have no idea what she was doing before she jumped in to save Naruto.

She is still a Shinobi of Chunnin rank, if all she can do is stand there then she might as well be demoted to a civilian.

Besides, the only people there were to fight, which is the only thing that Hinata could've done to help, were Pein bodies and Konan, and Hinata really isn't up to fighting S-class Akatsuki members by herself yet. Not to mention she was being watched over by branch family Hyuuga clan members, and probably was kept from fighting at all since she's basically royalty.


If You tell yourself that you cannot do anything, you will end up doing even less. There were dozens of ninjas that were only Chunnin or below(Chouji, Shino, Kiba, even Konohamaru), what exactly is the difference between Hinata and them? Why is she a Shinobi if her duty as Shinobi is dictated by blood?

Once Hinata saw that she should do something, she did it, and that thing was protecting and sacrificing herself for the man she loves, even though she knew she had no chance of winning at all. Naruto had taken out all the other Pein bodies, and she jumped in front of the only one left to protect somebody who can protect many more people than she can. Indirectly she helped Konoha a great deal.


Ok? She is unable to help and fight against Pain while her fellow comrades and villagers are being killed, but once Naruto comes into the picture she is somehow able to muster the strength against the same opponent she could not do for her comrades and villagers. A Shinobi is not trained protect those they choose, but rather trained to protect the village itself, which includes every single life it mothers.


The most important thing to Konoha or any village is what allows them to continue their existence. That is the next generation after the Konoha 12, and it is their duty to protect the next generation as the previous generation did for them. As far as I am concerned Hinata did not fulfill that duty.

Aftershock
04-05-2009, 11:18 PM
Also, I think what Azure meant when he said that Sakura was protecting the people, was that she started out trying to help in the fight, but then she went to heal the wounded. The children and future children of Konoha, when thought of as Chess pieces, are the "King" (remember what Asuma and Shikamaru talked about?). Sakura is indirectly protecting the King by healing the wounded. Naruto was doing the same thing by fighting Pain.
I think, more is not needed to say for that.

The most important thing to Konoha or any village is what allows them to continue their existence. That is the next generation after the Konoha 12, and it is their duty to protect the next generation as the previous generation did for them. As far as I am concerned Hinata did not fulfill that duty.
Look @ Bleach, or any other Anime/Manga, there are always Characters, which acting weird or their doing things, that somebody didn't understand.

I personally think, it was the best choice Hinata picked, by saying this to Naruto (and yeah, don't blame me I'm NaruxHina supporter).

And when I get along with your duty ... please, what have Kakashi done ? ... being slamed/killed in nearly an blink of an eye, like Hinata ... so, where was his duty ;)

Infinitekaos
04-06-2009, 08:27 AM
Wow, Azure. How do YOU know what Hinata was doing during the invasion? We have no idea what Konoha's defense plans or formations are like. One would think that if it is a military defense operation, and it probably is considering shinobi of hidden villages are the towns military, that each soldier has a function or job to do.

Each shinobi or group might be given a specific sector to protect and watch over. The enemy's strength and number are unknown, you don't just go rushing off to the nearest explosion leaving evacuating civilians or your area unguarded. You might be leaving your sector wide open to destruction. When Pain invaded Konoha, they originally thought it was one person, then it turned out to be multiple people. When an invader starts destroying Konoha, you just don't abandon your post, especially if you don't know what their objective is.

The fact is, unless Kishi decides to draw panel time for a character you don't know what he/she is doing. We always know what exactly Sakura is doing because she is a MAIN CHARACTER. I guess we can also assume that Hinata has been on a total of one mission in all of part I and II because I haven't seen her go on any, have you? It's dumb to think that Hinata was cowering in a corner somewhere during the invasion.

Sakura's job is a medic, we have no idea what Hinata's duties are during an invasion. So don't be so quick to judge just because Kishi didn't feel like drawing anything.

It's obvious Kishi is trying to work in some pairing for Naruto. Whether it be Sakura or Hinata. It seems obvious that Hinata's confession will either spark something in Sakura or it will start something between Hinata and Naruto. Either way, I can't believe people are trying to justify Hinata lack of panel time as her doing nothing. Simply retarded.

AzureFeatherfly
04-06-2009, 02:09 PM
And when I get along with your duty ... please, what have Kakashi done ? ... being slamed/killed in nearly an blink of an eye, like Hinata ... so, where was his duty ;)

Please refresh my memory of where he was killed in a blink of an eye?

He did his duty, he tried to protect Konoha, was successful at protecting a piece of the "King", and assisted in the delivery of information. Whether he lasted 5 secs or 5 minutes, the fact remains he tried. Doing duty never means success, that is just merely an extension.

@Infinitekaos

Number One:

Shino, Kiba, Sakura, Shikamaru, Ino, Chouji, and Konohamaru all contributed something against Pain's invasion. Whether they healed, fought, or gathered information, they all had some form of direct or indirect confrontation with Pain. They were all shown to be doing something whether it was 2 pages or almost chapter on Konohamaru.

Why was Hinata left out? I do not believe this was a coincidence.

Number Two:

If I consciously remind myself that there is a mangaka behind this story, then there are certain reasons for Hinata's absence. If Kishimoto did split her actions between defending Konoha and defending Naruto as well as confessing to him, then her confession, which was meant as a surprise would have lesser impact. Having her do two different things is less powerful than having her do one when she was to appear, defend and confess as a critical turning point of her character. Her actions are terribly important to her character and possibly Naruto's and Sakura's characters. I believe for Kishimoto to leave a significant mark in our heads regarding Hinata means that he forced her absence to make her actions later on to be of great importance. He does want us to forget this when a whole bunch other awesome stuff are happening (Konoha destroyed, 6 tails, 8 tails, Minato, Pain's power, Sage Mode, etc).

Number Three:

All that was explain why I thought she absent from the defence of Konoha, when Kishimoto could have used 2 pages to have pose a stance against one of the bodies of Pain or Konan. However, all that is my opinion of what Kishimoto was thinking. I cannot use any of that reasoning when reviewing her character because it would turn into me reviewing Kishimoto's writing. That opinion has to stay in my head, until you asked for it. "As far as what was shown" is also a perspective, and it was really the only perspective comfortable for me since she has been a closet character for most of the manga.

I have always read this manga for plot, because they are not two many characters I like (Itachi and Kakashi being two of few I like). Plotwise Hinata's confession was an awesome surprise but it did nothing to give me a better image of her character.

P.S. Hinata is still better compared to a certain someone else who blurts out twice as many Kurosaki-kuns compared to the Naruto-kuns. I had to vent off some anger against that girl.

Infinitekaos
04-06-2009, 05:54 PM
Please refresh my memory of where he was killed in a blink of an eye?

He did his duty, he tried to protect Konoha, was successful at protecting a piece of the "King", and assisted in the delivery of information. Whether he lasted 5 secs or 5 minutes, the fact remains he tried. Doing duty never means success, that is just merely an extension.

@Infinitekaos

Number One:

Shino, Kiba, Sakura, Shikamaru, Ino, Chouji, and Konohamaru all contributed something against Pain's invasion. Whether they healed, fought, or gathered information, they all had some form of direct or indirect confrontation with Pain. They were all shown to be doing something whether it was 2 pages or almost chapter on Konohamaru.

Why was Hinata left out? I do not believe this was a coincidence.

She might have been left out because she was doing something besides fighting a Pain body or healing. Maybe scouting, protecting fleeing civilians, etc. None of which is extremely exciting but important nevertheless. It seems many of the Byakugan users were being used to relay location information to other shinobi. Like I said, not showing Hinata doesn't mean she wasn't doing anything. Hell, Ino was IN panel and she wasn't doing anything. So you can say that just because they are in panel or off panel, it doesn't mean anything.

Number Two:

If I consciously remind myself that there is a mangaka behind this story, then there are certain reasons for Hinata's absence. If Kishimoto did split her actions between defending Konoha and defending Naruto as well as confessing to him, then her confession, which was meant as a surprise would have lesser impact. Having her do two different things is less powerful than having her do one when she was to appear, defend and confess as a critical turning point of her character. Her actions are terribly important to her character and possibly Naruto's and Sakura's characters. I believe for Kishimoto to leave a significant mark in our heads regarding Hinata means that he forced her absence to make her actions later on to be of great importance. He does want us to forget this when a whole bunch other awesome stuff are happening (Konoha destroyed, 6 tails, 8 tails, Minato, Pain's power, Sage Mode, etc).

What? So if she was defending Konoha all of a sudden her confession is less important? It would have had no less impact whatsoever in my opinion. And maybe he left her off panel because he wanted her appearance to mean something, but that still doesn't mean she was doing nothing while off panel. A confession to Naruto, regardless of who or when has enormous impact considering Naruto has never known love. Nothing Hinata would have done before or after the confession would have made it less dramatic or important to Naruto.

Number Three:

All that was explain why I thought she absent from the defence of Konoha, when Kishimoto could have used 2 pages to have pose a stance against one of the bodies of Pain or Konan. However, all that is my opinion of what Kishimoto was thinking. I cannot use any of that reasoning when reviewing her character because it would turn into me reviewing Kishimoto's writing. That opinion has to stay in my head, until you asked for it. "As far as what was shown" is also a perspective, and it was really the only perspective comfortable for me since she has been a closet character for most of the manga.

She has been a closet character as have most of the other side characters, but I'm just saying your assumption that she did nothing during the invasion is kinda strange. You seem to be making her out to be some sort of coward or something which she definitely is not. On the same side of the coin, what are Kiba and Shino doing right now? Obviously they are cowering in fear under the rubble because Kishi hasn't shown them as helping the search group for Nagato and they didn't jump out to help Naruto either. Obviously they are not doing anything right now.

I have always read this manga for plot, because they are not two many characters I like (Itachi and Kakashi being two of few I like). Plotwise Hinata's confession was an awesome surprise but it did nothing to give me a better image of her character.

P.S. Hinata is still better compared to a certain someone else who blurts out twice as many Kurosaki-kuns compared to the Naruto-kuns. I had to vent off some anger against that girl.

To Hinata's defense, Sakura seems to spout off just as many ..Naruto....'s as anyone. But still not 1/100 as many "Kurosaki-kun!!!!" as Inoue. Hinata's confession was awesome from a plot standpoint which is why I loved it. So many things can happen now with Naruto and Sakura and Hinata. It's a wide open door with regards to the plot.

skipshark
04-08-2009, 04:26 PM
Spoilers out...pain's dead, so now it's just nagato. One confirmed. Should prove interesting...everybody's getting back on their feet and Naruto's off again.

Infinitekaos
04-08-2009, 05:00 PM
I think Justin's is the confirmed spoiler. The other ones seem fake to me. The fact that the other 2 have an entire script don't lend themselves to be spoilers. You never really see the entire script in a spoiler. Either way, this chapter is gonna be Naruto finally seeing Nagato face to face. And it looks like from the pic it is at the very end of the chapter. So probably no chat this week. Might have to wait until next week.

afrotaito
04-09-2009, 05:18 AM
i enjoyed reading the other two spoilers more than the confirmed one

morillo
04-09-2009, 06:26 AM
the confirmed one looks weird because how can naruto locate nagato without sage mode by stabbing himself? and he already did that last chapter

xPyrox
04-09-2009, 06:49 AM
the confirmed one looks weird because how can naruto locate nagato without sage mode by stabbing himself? and he already did that last chapter

Cause he gathered the sage chakra and THEN did it.

Infinitekaos
04-09-2009, 08:05 AM
Well, the thing is they all look somewhat plausible. We all know what is supposed to happen this chapter. Naruto meeting Nagato. It's the details in between that really need the spoiler. So all of them are probably kinda right.

But the new pic posted with Nagato attacking Naruto looks pretty cool. Hopefully there is some battle between the two.

Harbinger_Ichii
04-09-2009, 10:36 AM
I figured Nagato was going to try and make Naruto's body his. Maybe Naruto get the Rinn'egan in some form after be the first to break out of it(Don't get you panties in a bunch)

morillo
04-09-2009, 10:38 AM
Cause he gathered the sage chakra and THEN did it.

Though this is obvious it doesn't say here that naruto gathered sage chakra


From confirmed spoilers in spoiler section

Pain is defeated by Rasengan.
Naruto pulls out a black rod from Pain and stabs himself with it.
He locates Nagato's whereabouts.
Naruto's flashback.
About happiness and peace.

Harbinger_Ichii
04-09-2009, 10:43 AM
It says it here

“Naruto sits down, and meditate, pondering all he has learned….loosing his physical self in thought, becoming still and gathering Natural energies.”

Infinitekaos
04-09-2009, 11:07 AM
It says it here

That looks like one of the fake spoiler ones. The first spoiler is confirmed on multiple sites. The other two are more fanfic.

Also, I know you said not to get your panties in a bunch about Naruto getting the Rinen'gan, but can everyone seriously stop with Naruto getting a doujutsu. He will never get Byakugan, Sharingan, or Rinen'gan so it isn't even worth mentioning.

I've read so many posts on so many forums claiming something like that. Do people think this is megaman? Where when you defeat the bad guy you get his powers to use in later levels?

logainofhades
04-09-2009, 11:13 AM
That looks like one of the fake spoiler ones. The first spoiler is confirmed on multiple sites. The other two are more fanfic.

Also, I know you said not to get your panties in a bunch about Naruto getting the Rinen'gan, but can everyone seriously stop with Naruto getting a doujutsu. He will never get Byakugan, Sharingan, or Rinen'gan so it isn't even worth mentioning.

I've read so many posts on so many forums claiming something like that. Do people think this is megaman? Where when you defeat the bad guy you get his powers to use in later levels?

Hey if kakashi can do it... :tongue: j/k I do not think he will acquire Nagato's Rinengan either. He does not even need it. Now that he has Sage Mode, and if he learns to control the chakra of the 9-tails, he will be damn near unstoppable anyway.

morillo
04-09-2009, 01:56 PM
thats the second spoiler

justin43
04-09-2009, 08:36 PM
My spoiler is correct and the chapter confirms it. I believe one of the pics posted turned out to be fake since it didn't appear in the chapter.

It appears that Naruto is really affected by what Pain said to him about peace and the state of the ninja world earlier in the fight. I am interested on how Naruto is going to answer Nagato's question about how he would bring peace to the ninja world.:headscratch: :popcorn:

Zero-sama
04-09-2009, 09:09 PM
Nice chapter. Naruto is acting like a leader, I haven't seen Tsunade, where the hell is she, I bet she is gonna die soon, and also looking forward to the chit chat Naruto and Nagato are gonna have in chapter 444. I don't know why, but I cant vote on the poll of this discussion thread, but fuck it I give this chapter a 9 of 10. Nice work Kishi!!!

:gin:

justin43
04-09-2009, 09:16 PM
Nice chapter. Naruto is acting like a leader, I haven't seen Tsunade, where the hell is she, I bet she is gonna die soon, and also looking forward to the chit chat Naruto and Nagato are gonna have in chapter 444. I don't know why, but I cant vote on the poll of this discussion thread, but fuck it I give this chapter a 9 of 10. Nice work Kishi!!!

:gin:

Good question. If Tsunade is by herself right now, this would give Danzo the prime opportunity to strike at a severely weakened Tsunade. This chapter gets 9 out of 10. Love the artwork of Pein getting rasengan and the talk between Naruto and Ino's father. Lets see how next week goes.:popcorn:

fourwalls
04-09-2009, 09:30 PM
I'll give it a 7.5/10.

it is a good chapter, but it's not fast paced and there is really nothing that special that happened. But I am happy with the change of pace, coz we have been caught in the climactic parts for quite a while.

I love Naruto's thinking back to Pein's words. I can see that he believes what Pein was saying, and it is probably the reason why he wants to talk to him. Now I am looking forward for that conversation between them. Would Nagato be able to persuade Naruto's thinking? I highly doubt it but it would surely be an interesting conversation: an Idealist vs a Realist.

Anyway, I love the behavior of Shikaku here. It just shows that he thinks first before he decides, and think things through, unlike Inoichi, very much like a reflection of their children.

Good chapter. Gai's team may make an appearance during Nagato's and Naruto's convo.

chinaman1472
04-09-2009, 10:00 PM
Not bad, more philosophies which is a nice change.

Infinitekaos
04-09-2009, 10:41 PM
It was slow paced but I didn't find it to be a bad chapter at all. I like how Naruto explained everything to Inoichi when he said Pain was the enemy and the time for talk was over. The whole "So should I just kill Pain and his Cronies and then his whole village?" That was a powerful line and it shows that Naruto wants to stop the cycle of hatred and conflict and that Pain's words have affected him. It will be interesting to see what Naruto decides.

justin43
04-09-2009, 11:47 PM
Pein is a very interesting villian. If you put things in prospective, Pein is no more evil than any other ninja that exist. Ninjas fight, kill, and destory whole villages if giving the chance just like Pein except Pein can do all these things by himself. Pein is right in saying that he is fighting for his own sense of justice just as Naruto does. What I like about Pein/Nagato is that he isn't just the cut and dry villain that is pure evil. Kishi has done a great job throughout this arc of blurring the line between good and evil.

Edit: I noticed the mistake now.:embarass:

fourwalls
04-10-2009, 02:10 AM
you might mean kishimoto:funone:

but I do agree with what you are saying.

Bankai - Ichigo
04-10-2009, 02:21 AM
Pein is a very interesting villian. If you put things in prospective, Pein is no more evil than any other ninja that exist. Ninjas fight, kill, and destory whole villages if giving the chance just like Pein except Pein can do all these things by himself. Pein is right in saying that he is fighting for his own sense of justice just as Naruto does. What I like about Pein/Nagato is that he isn't just the cut and dry villain that is pure evil. Kubo has done a great job throughout this arc of blurring the line between good and evil.

@Bold-faced word: You've gotta be kidding me. I mean, come on. Kubo writes Bleach, and Kishimoto writes Naruto.

Other than that, of course, you make a good point, and I completely agree. Pain isn't really evil at all.

I'll give it a 7.5/10.

it is a good chapter, but it's not fast paced and there is really nothing that special that happened. But I am happy with the change of pace, coz we have been caught in the climactic parts for quite a while.

I love Naruto's thinking back to Pein's words. I can see that he believes what Pein was saying, and it is probably the reason why he wants to talk to him. Now I am looking forward for that conversation between them. Would Nagato be able to persuade Naruto's thinking? I highly doubt it but it would surely be an interesting conversation: an Idealist vs a Realist.

Anyway, I love the behavior of Shikaku here. It just shows that he thinks first before he decides, and think things through, unlike Inoichi, very much like a reflection of their children.

Good chapter. Gai's team may make an appearance during Nagato's and Naruto's convo.

I'm not going to comment on your rating, but . . .

First paragraph (Again, the line with the rating in it is not included): I'm happy with the chapter, so I don't mind it any way.

Second paragraph: Just like you, I too do not exactly believe that Naruto will be swayed by Nagato's thinking and will stick to his own answer about how to bring piece to the world of ninjas that is full of hatred and war.

Third paragraph: Agreed here, and I like how you compared Shikamaru and Ino and their dads. Interesting word-choice, too. Could it be that Shikamaru got his I.Q of over 200 because of his father? I mean, not that I really think Shikaku also has an I.Q of over 200, just that maybe the son is extremely smart because the father is also really smart.

Final paragraph: About that, I'm actually worried about what Neji's going to do when he catches up to Naruto. We all want to hear Naruto and Nagato's conversation, right? So what if Neji thinks Nagato is trying to trick Naruto and will attack when the latter is least expecting it? Of course, once Neji sees how week Nagato is, he might change his mind, but still.

Anyway, the chapter gets a perfect 10/10 from me.

fourwalls
04-10-2009, 02:29 AM
Third paragraph: Agreed here, and I like how you compared Shikamaru and Ino and their dads. Interesting word-choice, too. Could it be that Shikamaru got his I.Q of over 200 because of his father? I mean, not that I really think Shikaku also has an I.Q of over 200, just that maybe the son is extremely smart because the father is also really smart.
Well, I think it was really in the genes. I remember a scene where Shikamaru and his dad were playing Shogi and Shikamaru really got frustrated because he cannot beat his dad. So Shikaku, I think, is really a genius as well.


Final paragraph: About that, I'm actually worried about what Neji's going to do when he catches up to Naruto. We all want to hear Naruto and Nagato's conversation, right? So what if Neji thinks Nagato is trying to trick Naruto and will attack when the latter is least expecting it? Of course, once Neji sees how week Nagato is, he might change his mind, but still.

Neji and co. are still quite far and would not know where to look, so when they arrive, Nagato and Naruto might have finished their convo already. Besides, I do think Naruto might need some help in this fight. He is already exhausted and he will face two akatsuki members. I don't know if Nagato is counted since, I'm still unsure if he can fight without the 'bodies'.

darkp
04-10-2009, 03:30 AM
Well it gets quick 9/10 from me . Emotions were told very clear and well-matched with illustration . Naruto will finish this fight with his old "ninja way" which can lead Nagato's flash backs hopefully . I want to learn about what happened nagato and his team.

Infinitekaos
04-10-2009, 08:04 AM
Well, I think it was really in the genes. I remember a scene where Shikamaru and his dad were playing Shogi and Shikamaru really got frustrated because he cannot beat his dad. So Shikaku, I think, is really a genius as well.


Neji and co. are still quite far and would not know where to look, so when they arrive, Nagato and Naruto might have finished their convo already. Besides, I do think Naruto might need some help in this fight. He is already exhausted and he will face two akatsuki members. I don't know if Nagato is counted since, I'm still unsure if he can fight without the 'bodies'.

He was exausted but now he is back in Sage Mode, so he'll probably recover pretty quickly.

Also, when exactly did he get back into Sage Mode? I didn't see it in his eyes when he was talking to Inoichi and Shikaku but when he opened the paper tree, he was back in Sage Mode.

justin43
04-10-2009, 08:05 AM
@Bold-faced word: You've gotta be kidding me. I mean, come on. Kubo writes Bleach, and Kishimoto writes Naruto.

Other than that, of course, you make a good point, and I completely agree. Pain isn't really evil at all.


I'm not going to comment on your rating, but . . .

First paragraph (Again, the line with the rating in it is not included): I'm happy with the chapter, so I don't mind it any way.

Second paragraph: Just like you, I too do not exactly believe that Naruto will be swayed by Nagato's thinking and will stick to his own answer about how to bring piece to the world of ninjas that is full of hatred and war.

Third paragraph: Agreed here, and I like how you compared Shikamaru and Ino and their dads. Interesting word-choice, too. Could it be that Shikamaru got his I.Q of over 200 because of his father? I mean, not that I really think Shikaku also has an I.Q of over 200, just that maybe the son is extremely smart because the father is also really smart.

Final paragraph: About that, I'm actually worried about what Neji's going to do when he catches up to Naruto. We all want to hear Naruto and Nagato's conversation, right? So what if Neji thinks Nagato is trying to trick Naruto and will attack when the latter is least expecting it? Of course, once Neji sees how week Nagato is, he might change his mind, but still.

Anyway, the chapter gets a perfect 10/10 from me.

Bankai-Ichigo, I was half-sleep when I made the post. Give me a break. Look at the time. I am usually not posting at that time. Your post isn't exactly perfect either. Piece for peace, week for weak.:oh: Anyway, I fixed the error in my judgement.:amused:

As for the rest of the post, I am also worried about the actions Neji may take. I don't want him to interfere in the conversation before Naruto can give his answer.:suspicious: On the Shikamaru issue, I believe all of the Rookie nine share some of the traits of their parents in their personality and traits.

yaWgnorW
04-10-2009, 08:42 AM
I think Tsunade is still passed out or laying in Gamakichi's hands. If you look at the last few chapters he shows up in he is always holding his hands up. Anyway, my biggest thing I don't want to see happen is that Guys team interupts Naruto's conversation, possibly attacking Pein before Naruto can stop them. I can see Kishi doing this.

As for the rookie nine, some of them I can see sharing the same traits as their parents however there are also some of the nine that seem to be the opposite as their parents. Hinata is a good example for that I think.

justin43
04-10-2009, 08:55 AM
Hinata, personality-wise, is the opposite of her parents, but the trait of the Byakugan is still the same.

Lnrd
04-10-2009, 09:22 AM
We haven't seen a rasengan send someone flying like it did Deva Path since Jiraiya was playing around with that former rock chuunin in part 1.

Nephi
04-10-2009, 09:37 AM
Maybe Pain is going to be a good guy xD...lol
hm I don't think that team guy will interrupt the conversation. They surly do what that slug says.
Actually I'm more exited about the HinataXNaruto stuff...I think there are just 2 ways this can be solved.

1. They get together :O *cheer*
2. Hinata dies....

I don't think that naruto will just say sth like "Sorry but I love Sakura and so...öhh stfu..sry"

Infinitekaos
04-10-2009, 10:16 AM
Maybe Pain is going to be a good guy xD...lol
hm I don't think that team guy will interrupt the conversation. They surly do what that slug says.
Actually I'm more exited about the HinataXNaruto stuff...I think there are just 2 ways this can be solved.

1. They get together :O *cheer*
2. Hinata dies....

I don't think that naruto will just say sth like "Sorry but I love Sakura and so...öhh stfu..sry"

Well, I think #2 is out considering she seems to be ok now. Unless she gets killed by something else which would really really suck.

Nephi
04-10-2009, 10:48 AM
Yes, that would really suck. :nod:
But have you other ideas for those two ?

Lnrd
04-10-2009, 12:08 PM
^ A good ol' polygamist marriage with Hinata and Sakura.

One things for certain though. Sakura will be giving Naruto some play because she's impressed by his new strength and the jealousy starting to show of Hinata.

B_K_E
04-10-2009, 03:59 PM
I love when jealousy involves in anime and mangas, its interesting to see how it turns out lol. I don't know why but Naruto and Hinata seem like his parents in my eyes.

Apple84
04-10-2009, 04:36 PM
whow...intensify face to face between Nagato and Naruto..now i wonder what their convo will turn out to be..i am liking this bit by bit...can't wait till it reach into the anime episodes...2 yrs or more to come! meanwhile...Shikamaru's dad and the other's..lol! that's a bit funny i found..at least Shikamaru's dad understand and let Naruto go.

Bankai - Ichigo
04-10-2009, 05:06 PM
^ A good ol' polygamist marriage with Hinata and Sakura.

One things for certain though. Sakura will be giving Naruto some play because she's impressed by his new strength and the jealousy starting to show of Hinata.

Sakura might not really be jealous of Hinata, since according to Rollingstar, her thinking about Hinata being in love with Naruto was just a translation error. Sakura isn't saying that in that thought bubble at all.

Also, in the confirmed Spoilers for 442, it says that Sakura is thinking, "She did it because of Naruto". That was the actual quote, guys, not what the Sleepyfans' translation makes it out to be. And besides, if they can make errors in the translation of the word gama, making it mean it "frog," when it actually means "toad," then why are people trusting their translation so much?

Here is the quote of Terabane's post where he brought up the confirmed spoiler--I only copy-pasted up to the part where Sakura has that "famous" thought: Source: NF
Credits: Nightjumper
Verification: Confirmed

Colour page. Everyone stands in a circle, with Sakura healing Hinata in the center. (Hinata's boobs are emphasized. This alone can make people feel like eating 3 cupful of rice)
People are wondering how this happened.
Sakura thinks to herself: She did it because of Naruto.


Neji and co. are still quite far and would not know where to look, so when they arrive, Nagato and Naruto might have finished their convo already. Besides, I do think Naruto might need some help in this fight. He is already exhausted and he will face two akatsuki members. I don't know if Nagato is counted since, I'm still unsure if he can fight without the 'bodies'.

Neji told Katsuya to take him to where Naruto is, remember? A part of Katsuya being with Naruto makes it so that Katsuya knows perfectly well where Naruto is and what he's doing, which means that Neji and co. won't have much of a hard time at all in finding Naruto. So the possibility of them interrupting in Nagato and Naruto's conversation is still pretty strong.

And, yeah, as Infinitekaos said, if Naruto does have to fight, since he's in Sage Mode he'll recover pretty quickly and might not really need help. Don't you remember that Fukusaku said that Natural Energy helps you recover a lot quicker? And Naruto also has the Kyuubi's chakra inside him, which also has healing properties. He'll be fine.

He was exausted but now he is back in Sage Mode, so he'll probably recover pretty quickly.

Also, when exactly did he get back into Sage Mode? I didn't see it in his eyes when he was talking to Inoichi and Shikaku but when he opened the paper tree, he was back in Sage Mode.

If you recall, during Sage training on Myobokuzan, Naruto was able to gather Natural Energy while running. So maybe he finally mastered and was able to enter Sage Mode while running? Either that or he had a Kage Bunshin somewhere focusing Sage Chakra and he reentered Sage Mode by releasing the jutsu on that bunshin.

fourwalls
04-10-2009, 05:15 PM
Oh right. I forgot about that katsuya part. Thanks for reminding me.

arishkegal
04-10-2009, 05:20 PM
I liked the conversation between Naruto and Inochi, Ino's dad. I can understand where Inochi is coming from, Pain just about leveled Konoha, is almost defeated and Naruto wants no backup and wants to have a conversation with the guy. I'd be pissed too. However,
Shikaku sees Naruto's point of view, and understands.

I can't wait until next week when they have their conversation. Nagato may turn good, may not. He and Konan may need to get wiped off of the map. But, we still have Madara, Sasuke and Hawk approaching so we need to keep that in mind.

B_K_E
04-10-2009, 06:12 PM
If I was Naruto personally I would destroy them without a second thought. I wouldn't care if they were like me at all i'd be ticked thinking back all of what they did to me and my friends and my village.

crisis point
04-11-2009, 07:20 AM
I have to say I really like the touch of shika's dad remembering what he said about naruto making him want to walk with him - foreshadowing to Naruto becoming a leader.

btill9000
04-11-2009, 07:43 PM
I'll be satisfied once I see the Byakugan and the Rinnegan looking at each other. If Madara chooses to show up around that time and throws the Sharingan into the mix I'll be even happier.

B_K_E
04-11-2009, 09:28 PM
I'll be satisfied once I see the Byakugan and the Rinnegan looking at each other. If Madara chooses to show up around that time and throws the Sharingan into the mix I'll be even happier.

Yea, if Neji and his father go to back up Naruto, I am interested to see their reactions when they see Nagato's Rinnegan.

Bankai - Ichigo
04-12-2009, 03:22 AM
Yeah....do you think Naruto and Neji, and whoever comes to help, might need to fight Nagato? I mean, even if he's in the condition that he's in, he still might be dangerous. The Rinnegan shouldn't be taken lightly.

Tank
04-12-2009, 10:50 AM
Yea, if Neji and his father go to back up Naruto, I am interested to see their reactions when they see Nagato's Rinnegan.

Neji's dad is dead. His uncle's still alive though. Though nobody's going to back up Naruto anyways.

Though, Ninja like Kakashi and Tsunade had absolutely no reaction to seeing the Rinnegan. Nobody besides Jiraiya, Ma and Pa frogs, and Pein have even mentioned the Rinnegan.

B_K_E
04-12-2009, 02:08 PM
Neji's dad is dead. His uncle's still alive though. Though nobody's going to back up Naruto anyways.

Though, Ninja like Kakashi and Tsunade had absolutely no reaction to seeing the Rinnegan. Nobody besides Jiraiya, Ma and Pa frogs, and Pein have even mentioned the Rinnegan.

Oh yea, I always forget about if Hinata's dad or Neji's dad was the one that died lol. Sorry about that.

notorious UZIMAKI
04-14-2009, 03:07 AM
Yeah....do you think Naruto and Neji, and whoever comes to help, might need to fight Nagato? I mean, even if he's in the condition that he's in, he still might be dangerous. The Rinnegan shouldn't be taken lightly.

exactly BI - the Rinnegan is the strongest of eye techniques. i wonder how the next battle will go. i'm kind of hoping it's over quick to move the story on, but wouldn't be surprised if nagato puts up signifigant resistance.