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RsR
04-03-2009, 08:20 AM
If they do fight; i wonder who will win?

Who will become the victorious of this apparent encounter?

3 on 1 - Davids vs Goliath I should say...

ginchan
04-03-2009, 09:42 AM
If they do fight; i wonder who will win?

Who will become the victorious of this apparent encounter?

3 on 1 - Davids vs Goliath I should say...

i think rukia will run and find ichigo.
unfortunately, renji will get owned and find unconsiousness.
i do like the 'davids vs. goliath' title though.
i think that once yammy pulls up with his resurrecion, we will find another, even further advanced stage of sado's 'hollow' transformation...

Yadomaru
04-03-2009, 10:14 AM
I actually hope not. At this point, even if Sado did it, it would jsut be sort of a "been there, done that" since Ichigo's already done the whole more-advanced-Hollow-transformation thing.
That said, I think Sado will narrowly beat Yammy. Yammy's a big brute, but he's not particularly fast and he's dumb as toast. The only advantage he'd have is brute force.

Or else Yammy takes out Sado and is iced by Rukia. (KT seems to really like Rukia's character...though I remember reading somewhere that he designed her first, and then Ichigo...can't back it up because I forget where I read it)

logainofhades
04-03-2009, 10:22 AM
I think Chad will beat Yammy. As much as Renji gets his ass kicked anymore, I am starting to think even Chad could beat him....

Meta
04-03-2009, 11:29 AM
I have a feeling the places will be reversed now,since the Karakura incident and Yammy will lose to Chad,easily or not

MissTaken
04-03-2009, 12:21 PM
I think Chad could win.

IchiRuki08
04-03-2009, 12:36 PM
Chad is going to win. Chad's like 5-10 times stronger then he was when he fought yammy the 1st time. Rukia is going to Ichigo. If the tree guy was alive still then it would be different but Kubo having Yammy finish off the already iced tree guy means she's not going to stick around. Renji is going to bankai...give Rukia a ride so she can get up to ichigo quicker...then he'll either be up there with Rukia or fight with chad. Most likely He'll stay with chad as backup.

Yammy is bigger.. I guess Kubo used chad to explain yammy got bigger...

*for what I dunno why lol*

Also Kubo likes Rukia simply because she was the 1st character he thought of for Bleach.

I'm gald after Rukia owned the tree guy people are starting to see she's no push over.

But ya Chad I'm rooting for...I'm tired of yammy poping out of no where like the koolade dude killing his own allies randomly because he's a dumbass. 1st the 2 hollow girls and now the tree guy...

The tree guy I can understand a little he was beaten and about to be killed by Rukia but the girls where kicking Orihime's ass and he's like ya u both suck I'm going to kill you now lol.

eneru92
04-03-2009, 12:37 PM
Bankai Renji , supported by Rukia's kido , should be enough to finish him off .

I really don't see Chad fighting Yammi alone and winning

IchiRuki08
04-03-2009, 12:45 PM
Well of course if Rukia Hakuren'ed him,Then did kido spell number 63
(The Kamehameha like attack she did to AA)
Renji did his big mouth beam thing with his bankai
and chad did his huge blast ...

yammy would be nuked...but Kubo never has a team up like that happen lol.

It would be funny to see Yammy triple teamed and killed quickly... I'm sure we would all get a kick out of that one lol.

RsR
04-03-2009, 12:50 PM
@ichiruki08
But ya Chad I'm rooting for...I'm tired of yammy poping out of no where like the koolade dude killing his own allies randomly because he's a dumbass. 1st the 2 hollow girls and now the tree guy...

The tree guy I can understand a little he was beaten and about to be killed by Rukia but the girls where kicking Orihime's ass and he's like ya u both suck I'm going to kill you now lol.


That is true-
Yammy always belittleling the weak.
Chad always trying to protect the weak.
PERFECT MATCH UP

eneru92
04-03-2009, 01:04 PM
Well of course if Rukia Hakuren'ed him,Then did kido spell number 63
(The Kamehameha like attack she did to AA)
Renji did his big mouth beam thing with his bankai
and chad did his huge blast ...

yammy would be nuked...but Kubo never has a team up like that happen lol.

It would be funny to see Yammy triple teamed and killed quickly... I'm sure we would all get a kick out of that one lol.

That would be the most impressionant owning scene of all the series , but I doubt that it will happen :unsure:

kkdog44
04-03-2009, 02:03 PM
I think Sado can pull it off, i mean he needs his revenge and plus they are the perfect match-up:idea: BUT as stated before it seems if sado gets a new transformation it will be sweet, but after this Ichigo Scarmask stuff, i think anything New for Sado can wait.....but all in all it can go either way.

justin43
04-03-2009, 02:33 PM
If Chad beats Yammy, that would mean that he is better than Hitsugaya who couldn't even hurt pre-growth unreleased Yammy with his shikai at all. I agree with IchiRuki08 on the battle scernario. Chad and Renji will probably fight Yammi. A worried Rukia may go to Ichigo.

Lnrd
04-03-2009, 03:22 PM
I don't think Sado is in Toshiro's league just yet. So 1 vs. 1, I don't think he would win. But, Renji and Sado working together might be able to pull it off.

IchiRuki08
04-03-2009, 04:06 PM
I don't think Sado is in Toshiro's league just yet. So 1 vs. 1, I don't think he would win. But, Renji and Sado working together might be able to pull it off.


Well please lets not forget Kubo forgets things like that. If he wants a character to win they will lol. Chad beating Yammy at this point wouldnt shock all of us.

I mean Rank wise he's weaker then AA. Ya Yammy may be stronger but again he's a moron. Simply outsmart the guy. Honestly Rukia could beat the guy with kido since he is mostly close range type of righter and very slow. Ya he has that cero but come on... its yammy. Its werid though... something about Yammy has me wondering...why did Kubo keep him around? Maybe for this? Who knows lol.

If he ends up being a VL that would shock alota people...(Him being 10th and releases to a VL) But nahhhhhh lol

Speed is the key with Yammy, if Chad and Renji use there power and speed they can take him. Kubo is going to jump back and forth between Yammy and Chad and Rukia and Ichigo, and Orihime. Something tells me...Rukia will end up fighting Hollow Ichi. Ichi of course will be screwed up in the head once he see's Rukia and he wont fight like he fought Ulq. I swear this is the Fade to Black storyline just the other way around... Instead of Dark Rukia we had Dark ichigo lol.

Maybe Rukia just needs to stab him in the heart again like Ichigo did to Dark Rukia...that would fixum all up lol.

samir12
04-03-2009, 04:30 PM
Something tells me...Rukia will end up fighting Hollow Ichi. Ichi of course will be screwed up in the head once he see's Rukia and he wont fight like he fought Ulq.

If Scarface Ichigo was willing to fire a nuke cero at Inoue what makes you think he wont do the same to Rukia.

Rosh
04-03-2009, 04:46 PM
I think Chad will win, Yammy is dumb as hell so I reckon Chad will out smart him. Man I have to say I really dont like Yammy he annoys shit out of me.

RsR
04-04-2009, 06:53 AM
I wonder how significant is this encounter. Filler fight or just a way to get rid of Rudobon instantly

Vergil
04-04-2009, 08:28 AM
The team up may beat Yammy but alone Chad can't solo him without a power-up.
How can Rukia go to Ichigo?? She will need to fly up in the dome,won't she?

Yadomaru
04-04-2009, 10:08 AM
I wonder how significant is this encounter. Filler fight or just a way to get rid of Rudobon instantly
I'd say both.

Hitsugaya_Hinamori
04-04-2009, 11:14 AM
I would say Chad because he is strong and fast while yammy is slow but strong that is the whole differnce for me.

IchiRuki08
04-04-2009, 12:11 PM
The team up may beat Yammy but alone Chad can't solo him without a power-up.
How can Rukia go to Ichigo?? She will need to fly up in the dome,won't she?

Well she can fly she's already shown that a few times but like I said to be faster Renji will bankai and give her a ride on his zabemarou. ^^

If Scarface Ichigo was willing to fire a nuke cero at Inoue what makes you think he wont do the same to Rukia.

lol cause Ichigo is a softy when it comes to Rukia, also he really didnt throw a nuke at Hime.. if he did she would have been killed instantly lol.

Who knows what Kubo is going to have happen. We can all guess but match up wise chad vs yammy would be power vs power. ^^

samir12
04-04-2009, 12:18 PM
lol cause Ichigo is a softy when it comes to Rukia, also he really didnt throw a nuke at Hime.. if he did she would have been killed instantly lol.


lol my bad, I reread chapter and he was gonna fire it at Ishida :P But then again he would act the same way to Rukia as he did to Ishida (Even Inoue could not stop Scarface). I understand your a Rukia fan and your dedication to IchiRuki so I won't debate on this ;) (its getting offtopic anyway)

kaname95
04-04-2009, 03:03 PM
It depends on how has grown the most since Chad and Yammy first met.However for some reason i feel that Yammy would win.

Rosh
04-04-2009, 03:06 PM
Well of course if Rukia Hakuren'ed him,Then did kido spell number 63
(The Kamehameha like attack she did to AA)
Renji did his big mouth beam thing with his bankai
and chad did his huge blast ...

yammy would be nuked...but Kubo never has a team up like that happen lol.

It would be funny to see Yammy triple teamed and killed quickly... I'm sure we would all get a kick out of that one lol.

I totally agree I would love to see Yammy get tripled teamed and get killed off quick, But I think that its highly unlikely : (

IchiRuki08
04-04-2009, 03:11 PM
Yup... because if that was the case all the bleach good guys would simply attack aizen and kill him right away...lol... I mean how many Bleach good guys are there compaired to bad guys? Like 10000 good guys and ...8 baddies? lol

Yammy is pissed but he calmed the hell down real fast when he felt Ichi's power... maybe he rethought his crazy rampage? nahhhhh lol... Chad vs Yammy 80 percent sure. :P

RsR
04-05-2009, 08:37 AM
What if Yammy is sandbaggin...

http://manga.bleachexile.com/bleach-chapter-195-page-3.html

Yammy a true Espada!

IchiRuki08
04-05-2009, 01:39 PM
humm.... ya... generally someone isnt sandbagin when this happens...lol

http://static.bleachexile.com/manga/bleach/193/%5BM7%5DBleach-ch193-14.jpg

OminousG
04-05-2009, 02:13 PM
wha? no poll on this thread?


Chad wins by intelligence alone.

RsR
04-06-2009, 08:45 AM
@blkorgasm

I wonder if its too late to add one... WTF damn it! Pay attention rich

@ichiruki08

Ichigo did get a good clean cut to Yammy's arm; he didn't even hesitate

(Yammy holding the Hōgyoku) Just speculating. The only Ace up the sleeve in order to win.

IchiRuki08
04-06-2009, 10:25 AM
Its possible but I doupt Aizen would let moosh for brains have it.. if he did then the main cast of Bleach would have it soon enough. Most likely Aizen has it on him.

Well the new chapters almost out, so we'll see how Yammy is going to react to big ichi's power most likely attack the cast and they all jump out of the way, and have a quick conversion on what to do. Rukia while she would be a great help with yammy isnt going to fight with him no way. No ones left to fight crazy Ichi up there, its not like he powered down, Rukia's going up there and chad's fighting yammy ^^

RsR
04-11-2009, 01:55 AM
The end draws near.
Whos is left on the battlefield? Where's Wonder Wise? This is going to be an interesting matchup.
I wonder what Yammi gained when he became Arrancar? Obviously not High Speed Regen...

Their done up there with Espada 4 (we assume?); so whos going to finish this HM arc?
Yammi is in big trouble or so it seems to be continued

ш『††Shinigami††』ш
04-11-2009, 02:46 AM
Lol chad is a big guy too. But I'm assuming that as long as Chad avoids Yammy's Cero and Gonzui, Chad should come out victorious against Yammy, finishing him off with La Muerte in his Third Form.

RsR
04-14-2009, 08:10 AM
Interesting how the plot thickens... still just a (questionable) spoiler. Oh Yammy what have you been up to all this time?


EDIT: Confirmed-Chapter 354

So yammy is now a huge dinosaur looking thing is (labeled) # 0 Espada.
A team up battle is a must in my opinion

Last Promise
05-15-2009, 03:25 AM
Chad will win, he will end the fight with La Muerte.

Oxyuranus
05-15-2009, 04:00 AM
Chad will win, he will end the fight with La Muerte.

LMAO are you kidding me? Didnt you notice the revelation that Yammy is actualy, probaly the strongest espada? Not a chance in hell of chad soloing him. None at all. Chad gets raped stomped.

Last Promise
05-15-2009, 04:12 AM
I don't think so. Yammy is big and very powerful but Chad is faster than Yammy, as well he have some strong skills. So I think that Chad will win.

Oxyuranus
05-15-2009, 04:54 AM
I don't think so. Yammy is big and very powerful but Chad is faster than Yammy, as well he have some strong skills. So I think that Chad will win.

So then, by saying this you belive that Chad is stronger then the top 4 espada, including Yammy who is zero espada i.e just revealeed as the strongest? Do you remeber what Noi did to Chad? Unless Chad gets some insane power up that places him stronger then Kenpachi, Ichigo, Byakyua and pretty much everyother captain minus the top 3 he gets killed with one hit. I mean, have you even been reading the manga?

Stinky Puss
05-15-2009, 05:02 AM
Yammi releasing felt like Tetsuo turning into a giant blob at the end of Akira, perhaps a revelation that he can't control his power properly will be what renders him the most dangerous. I don't see it being simply Chad vs Yammi, but rather more of a team effort.

Lune
05-15-2009, 09:25 AM
Edit: Title change as requested by creator. Thread reopened.

RsR
05-15-2009, 09:43 AM
Edit: Title change as requested by creator. Thread reopened.

Thank you very much CMC. I appreciate it.

Avix
05-15-2009, 11:10 AM
You know, as much as I want to say everything like all of the posters before me have said. For example, Renji Abarai (http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Renji) getting pwned and Yasutora Sado (http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Sado) winning....I think Renji Abarai (http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Renji) will get pwned, but Yasutora Sado (http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Sado) will not win either.

Here's what I think...


Everyone likes to think that the shinigami will finish them off. I really can't help but to think back on when Retsu Unohana (http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Retsu_Unohana) was so willing to heal the arrancar (http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Arrancar), Gantenbainne Mosqueda (http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Gantenbainne_Mosqueda). With this little bit of information, one can speculate as to why we haven't even seen her anymore. Regardless of the reason, it's another injured patient for her to treat. She DID mention "Our duty is not to spill blood, but rather stop it. (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/299/02/)"

If she has gone around and healed up the other arrancar (http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Arrancar), who's to say that we won't see a huge scale, battle royale with Yammy Rialgo (http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Yammy)? I'm talking about...Neliel Tu Oderschvank (http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Nel), Kenpachi Zaraki (http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Zaraki_Kenpachi), Grimmjow Jaegerjaquez (http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Grimmjow), Yachiru Kusajishi (http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Yachiru), Byakuya Kuchiki (http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Byakuya_Kuchiki), and who knows who else?

When you talk about Grimmjow Jaegerjaquez (http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Grimmjow)...we never saw him actually die. Plus, he didn't like any of them to begin with. He only bowed to Sōsuke Aizen (http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Aizen) out of fear of his monstrous reiatsu (http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Reiatsu). So, he'll be more-than-happy to kill off Yammy Rialgo (http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Yammy) if it means he'll be able to fight Ichigo again.

Neliel Tu Oderschvank (http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Nel) has already proven that she will even put her own life on the line to protect Ichigo Kurosaki (http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Ichigo) and his friends. So, with this fact, we can safely assume that if her powers were restored she would come to their aid.

Kenpachi Zaraki (http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Zaraki_Kenpachi) and Yachiru Kusajishi (http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Yachiru) will come to help them simply on the assumption that they've done it before.

I want to see Isane Kotetsu (http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Isane_Kotetsu) participate in this battle too. To be totally honest, I believed her to be a guy when she first appeared in the series only because I never saw the cover art where she was in swimwear (http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Orihime), or the shinigami illustrated book with her in it. Some people might've caught it at first glance, but it took me a while. She's just so conservative...and now that I know...it's that much more intriguing :plotting:

I know that Mayuri Kurotsuchi (http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Mayuri) won't be showing up. He's going to be too busy with the specimen laboratory left by Szayel Aporro Granz (http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Szayel).

All in all, a battle between the 3 of them and Yammy Rialgo (http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Yammy) would be boring if nobody else interfered. So, all I can hope for is to see more combatants enter before it's all done.

...and here's what I hope happens...
I have a slight suspicion that even Orihime Inoue (http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Orihime) might show us some spectacular turn of events with a surprise attack. If you think about their first encounter (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/194/07/), she owes him one. Aside from vendetta though, if Orihime Inoue (http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Orihime) ever developed the will to fight them...considering her power is based off of her will of the action...she could very well become invincible.

Oxyuranus
05-15-2009, 11:19 AM
ok. so just so i am clear, Chad now has the help of his freinds i.e Isshida, Renji, Rukia, Orihime and does this also include Ichigo? What about the captains? Since Ichigo wasnt put on the topic of this I am going to consider him mia for this fight. I will also not include the captains because although they may be allies, I wouldnt consider them Chad's freinds.

If it is just the usualy suspects i.e everyone who game to HM, including Orihime and excluding Ichigo then Yammi rape stomps them all. If however this fight does infact include the captains, VC and Ichigo, I give it to team Chad.

More clarification is needed for exactly who is included in the fight.

RsR
05-15-2009, 11:37 AM
This battle is based on the current chapters in the manga >

Yammy Rialgo (Goliath) VS Chad, Rukia, and Renji (David's)

IchiRuki08
05-15-2009, 04:28 PM
I just hope Kubo has the Bleach main characters win this one, honestly he's been in the mood to have limbs cut off and such. But Yammys so big the only thing he could do is step on the cast and we know he's not going to do that because hes going to be slow.

I already posted on how Everyone should kick in to beat Yammy after some powerup's lets hope thats what happens.


Orihime isnt going to beat anyone, Kubo's decided to make her a cry baby until she trains more with Rukia. To say she's going to beat 0 when she couldnt even handle those 2 girls is just retarded.

GOWSRB
05-15-2009, 05:51 PM
Well If Yammi's release form is in fact even stronger than Stark then even with powerups team Chad is screwed. There is no way they go from like low tier captain level (at best, but unlikely they are even that strong) to being able to best Yammi. So unless Yammi is bluffing and they still all get ungodly massive powerups, I give it to Goliath.

Belial
05-15-2009, 06:02 PM
None of the 3 can even pierce the hierro unless something changes, and that's pretty much it.

Nikato
05-15-2009, 06:41 PM
None of the 3 can even pierce the hierro unless something changes, and that's pretty much it.

True, which is why I think Unohana is going to come in and battle Yammy.

But...if they do fight....eh...my guess is chad will get the "last" of his hollow powers or transform into a full "hollow spartan" as I like to think of it. Basically he will be master chief except black/red/white and a funky death mask.


Otherwise I can't see him or anyone there beating Yammy outside of Unohana.

theavengerofblood
05-22-2009, 02:02 PM
I for one think his form is a bluff. I still think he's the weakest of all the espada. If he really was number zero then I don't think that uliorqura (probably misspelled) wouldn't have beaten the crap out of him if he was higher ranked. I'd really like to see renji actually fight for once as his bankai has seen little action and it could be given a new ability by kubo.

Ryuksgelus
05-23-2009, 12:25 PM
Yammi will pwn the little trio, then captains get involved, all of which fail to hurt him too. Then he starts feeling the effects of Menoly's(or loly, whichever) poison before he's finished off by Unohana. Deus Ex Machin at its finest Yammi's hierro being pierced by a fraccions release...durr.

IchiRuki08
05-23-2009, 02:54 PM
Nah, I think Kubo wont disappoint us people that actually like the main characters and give them power up's. Honestly when I said before that it would be nice that the 3 did a combo attack and nuked Yammy everyone said oh that would be fun. Now people are scared of a big fatass koolaid moron? I'm sorry his number doesnt scare me. He's still a dumbass no matter how much power he has. Rukia has the brains, Chad has the power, and renji has his bankai.

Will this be enough? Of course not! LOL

Power up's are needed, this isnt real life people, as we see with Hisu, next week, random attacks can show up out of no where simply to fit the battle.

Yammy got it out of nowhere, wtf cant the main characters. Stop with the freaking Urohana talk everytime someone is beating up someone.

Ichigo is losing to Ulq! Urohana will show up for sure!!

Ichigo gets a crazy hollow power up!... but he's out of control!!! Urohana will be there!....

Yammy gets a crazy power up!!! Urohana will be there!!!!

...just stop lol... its boring to see someone just show up and kill someone we know they can kill... wtf would be the point in that? We know shes powerful even without seeing her fight, theres no point to see a fight with her where we know shes going to win.

Rukia, and chad are dude for powerup's and I think they'll getum.

Chad will get his full armor and a super new nuke like attack. lol..

Rukia of course will be bankai which (yes I know this will be hard to believe) will be faster then Ichigo's bankai and vizard mode. Power wise she'll be of course a low tier captain like Renji but this fight will result in everyone helping in defeating Yammy. Ichigo, Orihime, and glasses boy will also help.. THEN the captains show up to lend a hand and everyone in HM kills Yammy for good.

samir12
05-23-2009, 03:03 PM
Rukia of course will be bankai which (yes I know this will be hard to believe) will be faster then Ichigo's bankai and vizard mode.

I agree with everything else you said apart from this bold bit. Or are you just joking around?

Keiretsu
05-23-2009, 09:39 PM
It'll either be Sado or a combination of the captains.

As of now, he is the only character of the original group who entered the Soul Society who has seemed to fall behind significantly. In addition to that, he has all the reason in the world to get a power up. He does not want to be protected, he wants to protect and be able to assist Ichigo so that his promise to him isn't null and void. Orihime has her awesome plothax abilities, Ichigo is constantly growing and hell even Uryu is keeping up for what it is worth. His match versus Szayzel was pretty much the Espada negating everything he could throw at him, so it wasn't the best test of strength.

All the while, Sado has been practically killed by Shunsui, had his heart stabbed by an Arrancar that Rukia easily dispatched and one shotted by Nnoi. He is overdue for a victory and development.

Soujirou
05-23-2009, 10:18 PM
Agreed

If Kubo still values storytelling over character popularity at all, Sado beating Giant Yammi is the most viable turnout because:

-Sado is Ichigo's best friend and they promissed to protect each other when the other is in need.
-Its payback time for what happened on their first encounter when he was unnable to defend Inoue and Tatsuki
-If he really is to uphold his promisse, he cant keep falling behind like that, so he really needs a power up to be able to defend Ichigo and all of his friends Now.
-All of the Captains who are there to draw blood already had their fights, and secondary characters such as they shouldnt be on the spotlight that long.
-Unohana stated that she is there only to heal the wounded, so no matter how fiendish strong she is, she wont kill anyone this time.
-We cant really count on Renji to do this can we? And Rukia defeated 2 named enemies at HM already, thats enough.
-Sado still got a lot of Untaped potential, Kubo have been giving hint on that, and have been keeping the nature of his hollow powers on secret for some time now, that probably for a reason.
-Strength vs Strength, Speed vs Speed, Mind vs Mind, Size vs Size, those are Kubo favorite kinds of matchups, why would he change that now?-
-Sado is one of the main characters, he needs to do something great to honour that title, he cant just keep on being defeated everytime.

crossfade
05-23-2009, 10:37 PM
A freaking huge giant yammy~released for a bigger mouth to brag...
sado will settle it..

cheapguy
05-23-2009, 11:31 PM
It'll either be Sado or a combination of the captains.

As of now, he is the only character of the original group who entered the Soul Society who has seemed to fall behind significantly. In addition to that, he has all the reason in the world to get a power up. He does not want to be protected, he wants to protect and be able to assist Ichigo so that his promise to him isn't null and void. Orihime has her awesome plothax abilities, Ichigo is constantly growing and hell even Uryu is keeping up for what it is worth. His match versus Szayzel was pretty much the Espada negating everything he could throw at him, so it wasn't the best test of strength.

All the while, Sado has been practically killed by Shunsui, had his heart stabbed by an Arrancar that Rukia easily dispatched and one shotted by Nnoi. He is overdue for a victory and development.

Agreed

If Kubo still values storytelling over character popularity at all, Sado beating Giant Yammi is the most viable turnout because:

-Sado is Ichigo's best friend and they promissed to protect each other when the other is in need.
-Its payback time for what happened on their first encounter when he was unnable to defend Inoue and Tatsuki
-If he really is to uphold his promisse, he cant keep falling behind like that, so he really needs a power up to be able to defend Ichigo and all of his friends Now.
-All of the Captains who are there to draw blood already had their fights, and secondary characters such as they shouldnt be on the spotlight that long.
-Unohana stated that she is there only to heal the wounded, so no matter how fiendish strong she is, she wont kill anyone this time.
-We cant really count on Renji to do this can we? And Rukia defeated 2 named enemies at HM already, thats enough.
-Sado still got a lot of Untaped potential, Kubo have been giving hint on that, and have been keeping the nature of his hollow powers on secret for some time now, that probably for a reason.
-Strength vs Strength, Speed vs Speed, Mind vs Mind, Size vs Size, those are Kubo favorite kinds of matchups, why would he change that now?-
-Sado is one of the main characters, he needs to do something great to honour that title, he cant just keep on being defeated everytime.

I agree with both of you guys. Also, Chad is in HM now. Yammy is there as well but this is both Ichigo's and Chad's field of play. Chad has hollow powers like Ichigo does and should recieve a "Scarmask" type of power boost himself if things work well. Out of all of Ichigo's crew, he is the most confident and resolved member of the team imo. The only thing holding him back now is a catalyst that sets him off in his upcoming fight. He is also one of the least emotional members in Ichigo's group too. I wonder how a bloodlusted, pissed off Chad looks like?:oh:

IchiRuki08
05-24-2009, 09:11 AM
I agree with everything else you said apart from this bold bit. Or are you just joking around?

lol honestly no. Kubo is going to make her super fast most likely, but not as powerful as vizard ichigo... but please keep in mind Ichigo is still faster then her in his second vizard mode. To say shes going to be faster then Ichigo's lesser forms now is a easy statement really.

People are going to be like... your kidding right? That would mean shes faster then byakuya. Nah... Byakuya of course is faster now because Kubo wants him to be since the fight with Ichigo. So no she wont be that fast either but she will be very very fast to even make Grim say wtf where did she go?

But she wont be able to deliver a sword strike to match that she still be rely on her swords power and kido spells.

She is a girl after all shes not going to be giving kenpachi like sword attacks yet. But power wise from attacks from her sword like hakuren they will be of course powerful.

Sorry if that doesnt make sence but I hope you know what I mean lol.

Keiretsu
05-24-2009, 10:21 AM
I'm going to add in, that Sado had developing hollow powers far before Ichigo did. That was really his field to begin with. Since the SS arc, KT has been dropping hints that his powers are hollow in nature, and with him being in HM that has really come to light. As much as I'd like to see Unohana kick some ass, Sado has had this coming to him for a very, very long time.

Among the people who went to the SS he was the only declared fighter who was unable to defeat his opponent. Even though it was Shunsui he was still unable to do anything. I could definitely see him actually getting really pissed and going full hollow against Yammi. I just hope KT ends up taking the fight in this direction, we know the captains are strong. That's what they are supposed to be and I doubt Unohana would disappoint. However, Bleach has followed the journey of the Karakura kids focusing on Ichigo. Wherever he goes, Chad, Uryu and Orihime will follow.

Chad is not only overdue for a huge powerup. This is the perfect time for it to happen. Though... I wonder what a pissed off full hollow Sado would look like.

samir12
05-24-2009, 12:09 PM
Yeah, I would really like to see Chad full hollow armour, I can see it happening if he gets pwned by Yammy. (Hey it happened to Ichigo, why not Chad?) But maybe the only difference is that Chad will actually be in control.

pumpkin13
05-24-2009, 05:41 PM
I'd like to see chad get some kind of full hollow armour, but honestly i think the only viable person todefeat Yammi is Unohana.

If Chad were to get a powerup big enough to destroy yammi it would be the biggest ass-pull EVER, it would make Yammi's 10->0 transition, hitsuguya's ice clone, and Scarmasks appearence look like a freaking kindergarden finger painting class.

VBI is already stronger than Chad, and VBI had to get a MAHUSIVE powerup in the form of Scarmask to beat Ulquiorra. Chad would have to get a powerup like at least twice the size of that if not more to even stand a chance of taking on an espada four ranks higher than Ulquiorra.

Then of course he'd ahve to explain how such a MASSIVE power increase occured when he still hasnt explained Scarmasks appearence yet.

cheapguy
05-24-2009, 07:06 PM
I'd like to see chad get some kind of full hollow armour, but honestly i think the only viable person todefeat Yammi is Unohana.

If Chad were to get a powerup big enough to destroy yammi it would be the biggest ass-pull EVER, it would make Yammi's 10->0 transition, hitsuguya's ice clone, and Scarmasks appearence look like a freaking kindergarden finger painting class.

VBI is already stronger than Chad, and VBI had to get a MAHUSIVE powerup in the form of Scarmask to beat Ulquiorra. Chad would have to get a powerup like at least twice the size of that if not more to even stand a chance of taking on an espada four ranks higher than Ulquiorra.

Then of course he'd ahve to explain how such a MASSIVE power increase occured when he still hasnt explained Scarmasks appearence yet.

If he didn't explain Scarmask or Rukia's why would he explain Sado's power-up.

pumpkin13
05-24-2009, 07:20 PM
Well a) he hasnt explained Scarmasks yet. and b) he HAS already explained Chad's powerup, the powerup he had against Ganbeinten; it's due to his hollow based powers reacting to Hueco Mundo, world of the Hollows.

Keiretsu
05-24-2009, 07:47 PM
Unfortunately, I am well aware of the fact that if anyone is going to fight and defeat Yam as is, it would probably be Unohana since it looks like KT is in the process of slowly unveiling some of the captans power. This also means that Sado will most likely become a throwaway character by the next arc if he lives that long.

But as it stands none of the characters listed (Chad, Rukia and Renji) have a chance in hell against what may be a stronger opponent than Stark. (Assuming Yammi just didn't gain a more powerful mouth.)

Soujirou
05-26-2009, 10:04 PM
I'd like to see chad get some kind of full hollow armour, but honestly i think the only viable person todefeat Yammi is Unohana.

If Chad were to get a powerup big enough to destroy yammi it would be the biggest ass-pull EVER, it would make Yammi's 10->0 transition, hitsuguya's ice clone, and Scarmasks appearence look like a freaking kindergarden finger painting class.

VBI is already stronger than Chad, and VBI had to get a MAHUSIVE powerup in the form of Scarmask to beat Ulquiorra. Chad would have to get a powerup like at least twice the size of that if not more to even stand a chance of taking on an espada four ranks higher than Ulquiorra.

Then of course he'd ahve to explain how such a MASSIVE power increase occured when he still hasnt explained Scarmasks appearence yet.

He could easily explain both with the words Vasto and Lorde.

And Keiretsu, you changed your mind way too quickly!

Keiretsu
05-26-2009, 10:12 PM
He could easily explain both with the words Vasto and Lorde.

And Keiretsu, you changed your mind way too quickly!

I play devil's advocate. That's all.

As for Sado, I'll repeat something that dawned upon me earlier. (Although, I'll preface this by saying I actually kinda like him as a character.)

Amongst the group that followed Ichigo into the Soul Society, Sado is the only one who has yet to display power far beyond his station. I'll explain by example, Ishida and Ichigo both have had fights where they tap into power that allows them to overcome an obstacle far greater than they would normally be capable of. Ichigo does this a bit more often, but Ishida did this against Mayuri.

Sado? Not yet. Will he? Maybe, maybe not. I hope he does, I honestly do. But chances are, the honor of killing Super Deluxe Yammi will go to Unohana.

Yokokorama
05-29-2009, 04:02 AM
If Yammy's number (0) implies that he is the highest ranking Espada, then I'd have to pick Yammy. All the feats we have seen from Espada numbered far lower than him is enough to prove this. I don't think the trio would stand a chance, unless of course Yammy has a weak point.