FF Advent Children: Complete/Final Fantasy Thread [Archive]

Kotoumaru

04-11-2009, 06:49 AM

There will be a FFXIII playable demo as well as videos from all of the fabula nova crystallis series (FFXIII, FFvXIII, FFaXIII), but only for Japan, as far as I know.

Which sucks. The game will also be out in Japan maybe by the end of the year, but Europeans and Americans will have to wait for +1 year. We'll probably have the game like Q2-Q3 2010..

I'll buy the BlueRay extended version of the movie nonetheless, 'cause it's awesome.

Exploits

04-11-2009, 08:56 AM

. . . What's the story on this one? D:

Kotoumaru

04-11-2009, 10:07 AM

It's about after the end of Final Fantasy VII man. Two years after, I think. I don't wanna spoil anything..

It's part of the Compilation of Final Fantasy VII series. It's full CGI. It has won a Maria Award and an American Anime Award.

It's a great movie, even if you are not a fan.

If you mean what's new with the BlueRay edition - I don't really know, sorry. But, there's going to be more scenes, more content for sure.

Meta

04-11-2009, 10:11 AM

I think I've watched that movie,almost half a year has passed.
It was a good one,the animation,especially, was great

Kotoumaru

04-11-2009, 10:22 AM

Yeah and now Square-Enix claim they can do even better CGI animation. They claim that in the upcoming games the CGI will be like pre-rended CGI quality, but full real-time. They'll be using their own graphics engine Crystal Tools to achieve such quality. From the screenshots I've seen and from the FFXIII official trailer in PSN, I must say, yeah the animation will be even more amazing than in Advent Children.

That was off-topic sorry.

manje10

04-11-2009, 03:51 PM

I have the info-

Advent children complete (Bluray HD) comes with-

Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children Complete (extended 30 minutes with blood and new affects)
On the Way to a Smile - EPISODE: DENZEL - Final Fantasy VII (Short Anime 25m)
REMINISCENCE of FFVII (cutscene clips of FFVII)
REMINISCENCE of FFVII COMPILATION (cutscene clips of all FFVII titles)
TURBULENCE of FFVII ADVENT CHILDREN (behind the scenes)
Collection of Final Fantasy VII Advent Children Complete Trailers.
Final Fantasy XIII Trial Demo (around an hour in length-Sony PS3)
Final Fantasy Versus XIII Trailer (Sony PS3) -I have a trailer for the game in my sig
Final Fantasy Agito XIII Trailer (Sony PSP)

Heres the two trailers for the package

1st trailer (click HQ)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8u4apTp9Jg

2nd trailer (FFXIII footage at the end)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_VyJmzidLw

Mine should arrive next week, will post my opinion on it.

Kotoumaru

04-11-2009, 04:00 PM

Thanks for the info man. Great there's a lot of content! I'll get it at the end of the month if it's in stock, I'm broke..

Do post you opinion and especially about the trailers please!

manje10

04-11-2009, 04:06 PM

No problem, the trailers i posted show some parts of the extra scenes.

The Japanese Version of the movie comes with the english Dub, the demo will work on all PS3's since it's region free but we have no info on the movies region code.

If the move isn't region free it will then be region A so will work on Japanese and US PS3's.

Kotoumaru

04-12-2009, 01:19 AM

Not european PS3?

04-12-2009, 02:18 AM

I've watched this one already in dub, very good CG, the story somehow lacks depth.

Kotoumaru

04-12-2009, 02:42 AM

I think if you follow the whole story as a whole, the Advent Children story is quite good. I mean before FFVII, FVII, after FFVII. The whole compilation. It's action-packed and shows us what it's like 2 years after the game, how are the characters and stuff. The story is not THAT epic, yeah, it's all about the action, I agree, but I didn't get bored even for one second during the almost 10 times I've watched it. I mean we get to watch Cloud fighting Sephiroth in CGI! That's pretty amazing!

04-12-2009, 02:49 AM

I know, ever since I saw that movie I couldn't go back playing FFVII without imagining how it is to play this in that kind of CG. Haha.

Kotoumaru

04-12-2009, 02:52 AM

Have you seen the FFVII tech demo? There's a good chance there's gonna be a remake for the PS3 someday.. I can't even imagine the awesomeness.

04-12-2009, 02:56 AM

Holy shit, there is? Ever since the original writer of Square Enix left after FFVII, the following Final Fantasy series didn't interest me anymore. Badass CG, but simpler plot.

Kotoumaru

04-12-2009, 03:02 AM

I'd say only FFXII isn't worth it, actually, all the other games are great. In my opinion anyway. FFVI, VII, VIII and X being really epic.

The tech demo's on youtube, check it out, it's great!

04-12-2009, 03:07 AM

I saw it. That was just sweet.

manje10

04-12-2009, 04:51 AM

I'd say only FFXII isn't worth it, actually, all the other games are great. In my opinion anyway. FFVI, VII, VIII and X being really epic.

The tech demo's on youtube, check it out, it's great!

Agreed but i would also add IV and IX to the list i found them to be just as good.

I also enjoyed XII but it did lack alot with characters, FFXIII is being made by the majority of the same team that made FFVII-FFX.

XII was created by the majority of the team that made FF tactics and the characters weren't designed by Tetsuya Nomura hence why they weren't as good.

The demo of XIII you get with the movie is an older build the graphics aren't finished the battle system is only 50% complete and several other small things here and there missing like-

-No Grid system (final version is gonna feature something similar to the sphere grid)
-No victory theme and poses added
-Alot of the area's will be blocked in the demo (final version alot more exploration)
-Lower Difficuilty (final version will be harder)
-The Demo is giving you a taster of the battle system and doesnt feature a significant part of the story

Main things being the Battle system and Graphics are far from completion in the demo.

Plus several other things i can't recall. Basically i won't judge the game fully on the demo, so if the demo good then the final version will be awesome!

Not european PS3?

European PS3's Region code is B and Japanese and American movies are A, so if it isn't region free it won't work for us.

Kotoumaru

04-12-2009, 05:27 AM

Yeah, I know all final fantasy are 10/10 for me actually, it's just that VI, VIII, X are closer to the FFVII feeling that -En seemed to enjoy.

Thanks again for the info man.

Xova

04-12-2009, 06:02 AM

Wow, this is going to be simply epic, heard about it a while ago but can't believe it's really here already *pinches myself*. Really looking forward to more Sephiroth action, with all the new technology it's only right that they extend the fight a bit more, I'm still kinda high from all the crisis core cutscenes that were so beautifully done.

MMZ

04-12-2009, 06:42 AM

I didn't consider it strongly before, but seeing as how they're sinking so much time and money just into FFVII spin-off stuff... I think we could see the Advent Children quality remake of the game being released for the Final Fantasy 25th anniversary.

RipVanRagnarok

04-12-2009, 06:45 PM

Are you ordering the Japanese version or the U.S one? And does the US one have the PS3 demo with it?

manje10

04-13-2009, 03:28 AM

Are you ordering the Japanese version or the U.S one? And does the US one have the PS3 demo with it?

The US version releases in June and that won't include the demo.

I'm ordering the Japanese version, the movie includes the Dub but it's still not confirmed if it will be region free or not. The demo will be region free since all PS3 games must be region free.

I will most likely recieve my order early next week so i can tell you if the movie will be region free or not.

Zaylen

04-13-2009, 04:46 AM

Like the previous one it will be kickass can't wait. any trailers or something out there?

Kotoumaru

04-15-2009, 05:15 PM

Games are region free. Servers are not always global, so net play isn't always "region free".

Demos are sometimes region controlled. Like the Fear2 demo being region controlled for some days and only American ps3s' could play it. They made it region free later and at some point even put it in the European PSstore. So, the demo CAN be region controlled, sadly.

But games are region free 100%. It's tricky with online games. Sometimes you get to play with people from the country you bought the game ( example: Tekken5:DR), sometimes you can't even get online (RE5, not sure though) and sometimes you have no problem playing online (Warhawk)

RipVanRagnarok

04-16-2009, 06:04 AM

^^Wait, all games are region free? I know that PS3 games are region free, but don't you need to mod certain consoles like the 360 and Wii to play imports?

Kotoumaru

04-16-2009, 02:58 PM

Nah, all games are region-free. The tricky part is that most Japanese games don't have an option to make the language english. So, if you're getting a Japanese game you better know Japanese.

Only Demos and movies (DVD, BlueRay) are/can be region controlled. You can check in Wikipedia what region your PS3 model is and buy movies for that region.

Almost all of my games are from the USA or UK and I have a European PS3 (Greece). It's way cheaper buying games online than buying them from a shop. In Greece each new game costs 70EURO..

manje10

04-17-2009, 02:01 AM

The demo has been leaked all around the web, some websites have it up in HD so you won't have to resort to grainy youtube.

Mine will arrive today hopefully :D

General impressions of it so far are awesome.

notorious UZIMAKI

04-17-2009, 02:08 AM

Nah, all games are region-free. The tricky part is that most Japanese games don't have an option to make the language english. So, if you're getting a Japanese game you better know Japanese.

that's awesome - i remember the days of PS1 of 'dj'ing' imports until i ordered the mod-chip online. of course i fried my ps the first time i tried to solder it in. luckily try #2 was better. haha

can't wait for XIII to come out. have the AC DVD, but prob will be a sucker and get the blueray too.

manje10

04-17-2009, 02:19 AM

Hey everyone good news for all, the demo is 100% confirmed to be region free and the movie is also apprentley region free!

I will confirm this when mine arrives, since the movie also includes the Dub this will be awesome if true.

notorious UZIMAKI

04-17-2009, 02:32 AM

^
awesome - definitely let us know!

RipVanRagnarok

04-17-2009, 06:20 AM

Kotoumaru

04-17-2009, 02:58 PM

Manje10 that's great news! Tell us everything when you get it and try it, please!

Unfortunatelly, I can't afford to get it now, I have to wait 'till the end of the month to get paid..

RipVanRagnarok

04-17-2009, 03:04 PM

Ahhh...it costs $70 US on Play Asia. I saw the full demo and thought it was great. The opening scene was action packed, making use of the PS3's technology. The city where you first start is like an underground Zanarkand. Lightning was a really cool character, not to mention hot. Oh and that guy who reminds me of Urahara was awesome with his unarmed combos. Since the demo uses an old build, I hope they can improve on what they have now.

manje10

04-17-2009, 05:25 PM

I got it earlier and its so awesome, really amazing and fun. The movie is also 100% region free!

You can watch it on youtube here-

(quality sucks and is grainy and is nothing like playing it on a HDTV)

Here is part 1-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tm9mitETyvk&feature=PlayList&p=43C318A4FB395092&index=0&fmt=18

The rest can be found here- http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=43C318A4FB395092

Three parts are played as Lightning and Sahz and the other 3 parts are played using Snow and his team, the demo's order is the same order as the playlist. The demo mainly focuses on the battle aspect and not so much on story, also its a very incomplete version of the final product (around 12-14 months)

The battle system is really incomplete compared to whats gonna be in the final version but even so it plays great, try to imagine the FF9-10 battle system but you can use combo's and chain attacks, then they have just added a flashy camera style and movement to it.

If your comp cant play HD vids on youtube then add &fmt=18 to the end of the URL to get HQ video, already added it to the first link.

Enjoy.

RipVanRagnarok

04-17-2009, 05:28 PM

The links aren't working. I put up a link to a better quality HD video of the entire demo in the FC section.

manje10

04-17-2009, 05:35 PM

They should work now, i noticed your links in the FF FC are much better quality so anyone who wants to watch it i suggest you go to the FF FC and watch it from there.

RipVanRagnarok

04-18-2009, 06:44 AM

I'll just copy it here for ease of access.

http://www.gamersyde.com/news_7707_en.html

Spidy56

04-18-2009, 05:36 PM

Have you seen the FFVII tech demo? There's a good chance there's gonna be a remake for the PS3 someday.. I can't even imagine the awesomeness.

Square Enix has already stated that they are not going to remake FF VII. I thought so too at first after watching the tech demo, but during the showing of the PS3 at E3 they said FFVII is a closed project (Game wise). It's too bad really, FFVII with updated graphics and the original story would be epic.

RipVanRagnarok

04-18-2009, 05:51 PM

They might do it one day. There's a lot of pressure from the fans for a next gen remake. Maybe it'll be done for the 30th anniversary or something.

Paragon

04-20-2009, 05:40 PM

I watched the recent footage on Final Fantasy XIII with the gameplay and i am so stoked for this game its not even funny. The gameplay looks really good and i quite like the character designs. Sucks we gotta wait till 2010!! ;_;

Anyone see that new trailer for Final Fantasy Versus XIII?

I'm moving this to the gaming section as well since this has strayed into more of a discussion about the games. :D

The old Final Fantasy thread vanished. -__-

manje10

04-21-2009, 01:27 AM

I have been through the demo like 3-4 times now and once with a translation guide, can't wait for the full game to release.

There was an interview yesterday with Toryima (XIII developer) and he said the battle system you see in the demo is only 30% of the final product :O

The Versus trailer was nice, try and find the subbed version and the stuff the characters are saying is pretty dark.

MMZ

04-21-2009, 02:10 AM

They might do it one day. There's a lot of pressure from the fans for a next gen remake. Maybe it'll be done for the 20th anniversary or something.

I doubt it'll be done for the 20th anniversary... since that was back in 2007. lol

RipVanRagnarok

04-21-2009, 06:24 AM

I doubt it'll be done for the 20th anniversary... since that was back in 2007. lol

:push: I mean the 30th one.

Paragon

05-07-2009, 03:32 PM

Square Enix hopes to release the European version of Final Fantasy XIII “sooner than a year later than the Japanese release”, producer Yoshinori Kitase has said.

Traditionally, the North American version of Final Fantasy games is released about half a year after the Japanese version, with the European version released half a year after that.

Given that Final Fantasy XIII looks like it will be released this Christmas in Japan, Europeans are faced with the prospect of having to wait till Christmas 2010 before getting their hands on the stunning-looking JRPG.

However, speaking to VideoGamer.com at a recent press event for Dissidia: Final Fantasy, a PSP fighting game due out this autumn, Kitase gave the strongest indication yet that the Europeans won't have to wait as long for Final Fantasy XIII as they have done for Final Fantasy games in the past.

He said: “Obviously we would like to release it over here as soon as possible. Traditionally the Final Fantasy numbered series, it takes about half a year between the release in Japan and the release in North America, and another half a year before it's released in Europe. But we would like to minimise this, this time.

“For example we have already started recording English voices, and also the text localisation has been in progress, too. Normally we complete the Japanese version first, then move on to the US and EU versions, but this time there are some tasks that are happening simultaneously. So this time we're hoping to release sooner than a year later than the Japanese release.”

Commenting on the gap between the US and EU release, Kitase said: “We would like to make the gap as short as possible.”

videogamer.com

Some good news.

manje10

05-07-2009, 04:55 PM

The thing is with all FF's they usually release in the US 4-6 months before EU, it's because they have to make subtitles for all the other EU countries so it takes much longer.

That being said the PS3 is region free so nothing stopping me from importing it from the US, screw waiting ahha.

Heres the vsXIII trailer that came with the bundle-

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/314553.html

It's subtitled for the talking scene between Noctis and Stella.

Here it is in HD without subs- http://www.gametrailers.com/player/48154.html?type=flv

Watch the beginning part in HD it's so epic!

05-20-2009, 06:03 AM

I'm looking forward to Versus. On the otherhand, XIII Lightning character has some pretty badass weapon.

RipVanRagnarok

05-22-2009, 11:16 AM

Versus will probably be the last game in the series to come out. After XII, we'll probably get Agito.

And yes, Lightning's weapon is indeed badass.

manje10

05-23-2009, 09:22 AM

Yeh tht order seems correct, it will most likely go XIII-Agito-vsXIII.

Versus will have been in development longer then XIII when it releases since they started working on them at the same time. Both games have the same budget also and a great team behind them so they will both be amazing.

If i were to guess what Square would work on when they both finish it would be FFVII remake and KH3 but who know's what plans they have.

captainjack613

05-23-2009, 09:00 PM

actually, according to IGN, FFvsXIII is coming out at the end of 2009 as a ps3 exclusive followed by FFXIII in april 2010 for the 360 and ps3.

which also means KH3 won't be released for another 2-3 years (because the KH teams is also working on the FF team and vice versa)

RipVanRagnarok

05-24-2009, 07:49 AM

Are these Japanese release dates? So far as I know the demo says XIII is out in Japan in Winter 2009 and no release dates have been officially announced for Agito or Versus.

captainjack613

05-24-2009, 10:18 PM

This is deffinately an american site, i'll give you the links:

FFvs13 - at the top it says TBA 2009, and if you scroll to where it says "about this game" it says Dec. 31, 2009 which usually means they don't have a date but it'll be before the end of the year.

http://ps3.ign.com/objects/826/826846.html

FF13 - this one straight up says april 2010.

http://ps3.ign.com/objects/826/826843.html

Korbenik

05-25-2009, 12:35 PM

well IMO american sites telling release dates usually end up being wrong by a couple of days or few weeks but thats my opinion lol

captainjack613

05-26-2009, 03:23 PM

I've looked at about a hundred sites now, they all called versus for 2009.

i guess we'll know for sure in a few months x]

either way it's getting real close =)

manje10

05-27-2009, 04:05 AM

I can tell you right now Versus will not be released until atleast the end of 2010. They said Versus will release after XIII has released worldwide and that won't be until around May next year.

Heres some new info-

-There will be some type of announcement in the game archives in the future
-[Nomura] Not involved in FF13 much anymore; design, voice recording, and marketing only
-Currently focusing on Versus and Agito
-Agito's battle system has taken on a form different from previously shown battle scenes
-Even though it's on PSP, Agito aims to be the pinnacle of this generation (of handhelds?)
-Third Birthday can be played through the prologue
-Looking forward to the final product
-Looking to create a masterpiece
-Versus members are more or less the same as FF7 members and everyone is working very synergistically
-Synergistic team isn't making compromises, so the quality is naturally going up
-I try to audit the progress, but because everyone is auditing themselves very severely, most problems are cleared at lower levels
-Currently testing battle system and map gimmicks (?)
-Town lighting test for day and night were inspected and it felt as though the town really existed in front of me
-I really want to show, right away, character's actions when they're left alone for a while
-Please wait a little bit longer for new Versus information. Once we get to a certain point, I will show you something very surprising
-New images/videos(?) for FF13 will be shown at E3

As you can see they haven't even revealed the battle system or any gameplay for Versus yet but it does say soon there will be something amazing from the game shown to the public.

Versus is also gonna have day and night changes :D gonna be amazing to see what they can create with the power of the PS3.

captainjack613

05-27-2009, 05:34 AM

after years and years of hardcore gaming, i've learned not to hold my breath. thanks for the info!

RipVanRagnarok

05-27-2009, 06:17 AM

Yeah, Versus was originally scheduled for a 2009 release, but they have to push it back in preparation for XIII and Agito. Well, at least progress is being made. Hopefully there won't be any delays in the release of any three titles.

There are already billboards in LA showing the release of XIII in 2010.

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/05/23/giant-final-fantasy-xiii-characters-watch-over-la-residents/

captainjack613

05-27-2009, 07:51 AM

I see, maybe I just fell upon a bunch of outdated sites. It's unfortunate it was pushed back, but if we're getting a 3-game deal i'm all for waiting. Thanks for clearing that up RvR. :popcorn:

RipVanRagnarok

06-04-2009, 06:34 AM

Final Fantasy VII is now available on the PlayStation store for 9.99.

zeocloud

06-04-2009, 09:29 AM

does any one know where i can get the pc version of FF VII on the internet?

RipVanRagnarok

06-04-2009, 09:37 AM

Amazon

Paragon

06-04-2009, 12:32 PM

Whats everyone's opinions on the English voice overs for Final Fantasy XIII? I personally like it almost as much as i like the Japanese voice overs.

Also from the looks of the trailers it seems that we'd have five members in the party for Final Fantasy XIII. Originally i thought it might just have been three or four.

Final Fantasy VII is now available on the PlayStation store for 9.99.

That must be pretty sweet for those PS3 owners. I'd love to play Final Fantasy VII without having to drag out and dust off my PS2.

seiftis

06-04-2009, 01:15 PM

That must be pretty sweet for those PS3 owners. I'd love to play Final Fantasy VII without having to drag out and dust off my PS2.

Isn't the PS3 able to play PS2 games?

That's what I heard anyway, not having a Ps3 myself >__>

Paragon

06-04-2009, 01:19 PM

RipVanRagnarok

06-08-2009, 08:29 AM

You can play PSOne games on a PS3 or on a PSP via remote play.

Keiretsu

06-08-2009, 06:01 PM

Nah apparently PS2 games are not compatible with the PS3 console. The older versions of the PS3 were i was told, but Sony stopped making PS3s that enabled consumers to play PS2 titles...i don't own a PS3 either...yet(my earlier post might have been misleading :P), so i'm not 100%.

There were some problems with the old 80 gig ones. When they released the 40 gig ones they removed the backward compatibility.

On a completely random aside, one of the characters from FFXIII reminds me a lot of Shinjiro Aragaki from Persona 3. (The dude with the beanie.)

manje10

06-09-2009, 02:35 AM

You can play PSOne games on a PS3 or on a PSP via remote play.

You can actually copy the whole game over to the PSP including the save so you can play it with your PS3 switched off.

I thought the E3 trailer was awesome and i like the english VA's alot, graphics looks amazing.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/50338.html

Heres a new trailer that some people might have missed, it was ripped from the english version of Advent children complete.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/50922.html

Most of it's demo footage but the last part is some new footage.

The more i see the more tempted i am to import the Japanese version this year, if not that then i will be importing the US version in spring. Won't come to europe until winter 2010 :(

FFXIV and VersusXIII better hurry up also!

Xelphus

06-10-2009, 08:47 AM

if it's not to blantantly obvious, I am awaiting FFXIII

some info: XBOX live currently has both the Japanese Trailer and the E3 vid for free download, and the release date (for those of you who don't know) is 03/03/10

a hell of a lot sooner than i thought

RipVanRagnarok

06-10-2009, 09:11 AM

Well, the developers said that the localization process would be done a lot quicker. I can't wait, but is that the release date for the PS3 version? I don't know if its a simultaneous release or if the 360 version will be released at a later date.

Xelphus

06-10-2009, 11:11 AM

the march release date is for 360, I'm not sure about the release on PS3.

I'd imagine simultaneous though, most cross platform games only have to change a little bit of software for the actual system

manje10

06-10-2009, 11:28 AM

Yeh it's simultaneous release across the PS3/360 outside of Japan where it will remain on the PS3.

3-6 months after FFXIII releases then FFXIV will come to the PS3/PC and then around another 3-6 months after XIV then vsXIII will come to the PS3.

3 main FF titles within a year is pretty amazing!

For ppl in EU, FFXIII will be releasing Winter 2010 (maybe slightly earlier) so unless you want to wait that long you gotta import it.

Paragon

06-10-2009, 12:29 PM

I had thought the EU release of the game would be one the same date as the North America release...? Annoying that we always seem to have wait just that bit longer for JRPGs.

manje10

06-10-2009, 01:15 PM

Yeh they said in a recent interview that the game will be coming to Europe by Winter 2010. When a games company say's that it's extremely unlikely it will come earlier.

If you have a PS3 you can import the US version but the majority of the 360's games are region coded to stop piracy and since this is multi-disk it will be the same.

Xelphus

06-10-2009, 05:39 PM

um, FFXIV? i have heard nothing to support it coming out anytime soon

vs XIII is coming out soon after though, i know that mcuh is true

Houzukimaru

06-10-2009, 06:01 PM

um, FFXIV? i have heard nothing to support it coming out anytime soon

vs XIII is coming out soon after though, i know that mcuh is true

The only thing I saw on the release of FFXIV is that it will be 2010 and that it will be after FFXIII

Xelphus

06-10-2009, 06:42 PM

i require links before I believe that

Peak

06-10-2009, 06:54 PM

The only thing I saw on the release of FFXIV is that it will be 2010 and that it will be after FFXIII
Hard time believing that.

Releasing FFXIV after FFXIII in the same year?

Not likely at all to happen I don't see Square Enix ever letting that happen due to the shitload of FFXIII.

Also if FFXIII is successful, which it will be hopefully then I doubt Square Enix is going to release it that soon.

Keiretsu

06-10-2009, 07:36 PM

*sigh* With them making another FF MMO that'll be another 4-6 years I am ensured that there won't be a new Chrono game. Oh well, money talks.

I'm a bit annoyed that while they are making some headway on releasing the Final Fantasy games over here we are still left in the dark regarding other games. Like the new Bahamut and Parasite Eve. Oh well, FFXIII looks solid, definitely has my interest since the character designs definitely look good. They look Soejima-esque.

manje10

06-11-2009, 02:27 AM

i require links before I believe that

In 2005 S-E unveiled a new project called 'Rapture', people were told that it was a new MMO being made by the FFXI team. All they showed us was one tech-demo.

This one-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgtZvn5c4e4&fmt=18

Since Rapture was the project name there was some speculation that it was going to be revealed as Final Fantasy XIV, seems like those people were correct.

Also recently with IGN (i think) they confirmed that FFXIV was Rapture and it had been in development for 4-5 years. They said it will be releasing after XIII.

*sigh* With them making another FF MMO that'll be another 4-6 years I am ensured that there won't be a new Chrono game. Oh well, money talks.

I'm a bit annoyed that while they are making some headway on releasing the Final Fantasy games over here we are still left in the dark regarding other games. Like the new Bahamut and Parasite Eve. Oh well, FFXIII looks solid, definitely has my interest since the character designs definitely look good. They look Soejima-esque.

I've heard the the original creator of Chrono owns the rights to the series (not sure if thats true)

The Bahamut game and Parasite Eve are on handhelds so they will never give them as much coverage as the big console games.

Tokyo game show is in 3 months, they will show every game they have and not just FFXIII.

AfterExile

06-11-2009, 04:38 AM

Xelphus

06-11-2009, 08:23 AM

we have a release date for the 360, so yeah, it's announced

Keiretsu

06-11-2009, 08:45 AM

I've heard the the original creator of Chrono owns the rights to the series (not sure if thats true)

The Bahamut game and Parasite Eve are on handhelds so they will never give them as much coverage as the big console games.

Tokyo game show is in 3 months, they will show every game they have and not just FFXIII.

Fortunately, they did not end up with the rights to the series. Essentially what ended up happening is, when they started work on Final Fantasy XI they got the scenario writer for Chrono Trigger/Cross. As a result, the guy has had no time to work on anything but that. That and most of the Chrono Cross team was allocated into working on XI.

TokyoRacer

06-25-2009, 07:29 PM

FFXIII looks interesting, although there hasn't been a good FF game since FFIX, so I'm not holding my breath.

And do we really need another FF MMO? Isn't FFXI terrible enough?

MMZ

06-25-2009, 07:36 PM

FFXIII looks interesting, although there hasn't been a good FF game since FFIX, so I'm not holding my breath.

And do we really need another FF MMO? Isn't FFXI terrible enough?

Yeah, the number games should stick to console RPGs like they were for the 15 years prior to XI. The online games should have just been a spin-off. It peeves me that they're doing this again! Once more they take the nostalgic series some of us grew up with and crap all over it. >.<

...and argue whatever you want about the RPG vs MMO, but the console RPG wins hands down for one reason above all others... NO MONTHLY FEES!

TokyoRacer

06-25-2009, 07:38 PM

Monthly Fee's or not, Final Fantasy XI is a terrible game, and there is no reason to create another terrible Final Fantasy based MMO.

MMZ

06-25-2009, 07:46 PM

Monthly Fee's or not, Final Fantasy XI is a terrible game, and there is no reason to create another terrible Final Fantasy based MMO.

Well, I don't exactly think highly of XI, but they could make a new MMO to fix a lot of issues XI had and then we might get a great online game. My only real issue is that going from RPG to MMO after so long is like going from Super Mario to Super Mario World, to Mario Tennis. MMO's have no place in the numbered FF series.

TokyoRacer

06-25-2009, 07:49 PM

Or, they can completely redo FFXI, and release it as a FFXI expansion pack...you know...like typical MMO's do.

Square is stupid.

MMZ

06-25-2009, 07:53 PM

Or, they can completely redo FFXI, and release it as a FFXI expansion pack...you know...like typical MMO's do.

Square is stupid.

Fixing XI would be an overhaul, thus making a new game. They would have to wipe out all the accounts of people currently playing because the game engine and mechanics would even have to be tweaked. It's a bit much for just an add-on or patch.

TokyoRacer

06-25-2009, 07:55 PM

Fixing XI would be an overhaul, thus making a new game. They would have to wipe out all the accounts of people currently playing because the game engine and mechanics would even have to be tweaked. It's a bit much for just an add-on or patch.

You are aware that Dark Age of Camelot, EverQuest and EverQuest 2 have all received massive overhauls to their graphics engines since they first came out, and graphically are now completely different from the time they first came out.

It's easy to do. Square is just being stupid.

Xelphus

06-25-2009, 08:54 PM

not as easy as you think. There's countless amounts of codes to add in, not to mention the massive amounts of memory it would take up

then again, from what i've heard about FFXI it wasn't that great to begin with -_-

MMZ

06-25-2009, 10:49 PM

You are aware that Dark Age of Camelot, EverQuest and EverQuest 2 have all received massive overhauls to their graphics engines since they first came out, and graphically are now completely different from the time they first came out.

It's easy to do. Square is just being stupid.

Graphics are the least of it. Things like changing experience/damage formulas and the database of monster HP/MP, experience, etc... is a lot more involved.

Xelphus

06-26-2009, 03:08 AM

well yeah, then there's that

Eve overhauled it's graphics recently, but their best improvement was skill queueing, which is so simple its not even funny. it did worlds better than the graphics update

TokyoRacer

06-26-2009, 05:47 PM

But is a new FF based MMO really necessary?

Xelphus

06-26-2009, 09:04 PM

no, it isn't. MMO's fail as a whole. The only reason WoW is so popular is because it has the Warhammer name behind it, which is one of the biggest PC titles in America. FF was huge on consoles, so for PC gamers it wasn't a big deal, and it's console support was really weak until recently, though it's too little too late

Houzukimaru

06-26-2009, 11:20 PM

They wouldnt be able to update FFXI's graphics even if they wanted to because its still supported on the PS2 which they've pretty much pushed to the limit already

Xelphus

06-28-2009, 12:51 AM

that actually doesn't even matter, unless the server for the PS2, XBOX 360, and PC versions are all on the same server

Flamzeron

07-26-2009, 12:28 PM

I just hope the new MMO uses an action style battle system.

viva la mexican

07-26-2009, 02:45 PM

now i hate to be a noob and ask but is the movie only in blu ray or is it for both blu ray and dvd?

Paragon

07-26-2009, 02:54 PM

It was released on DVD to begin with and then a Blu Ray version came aftewards.

Skirr

07-26-2009, 04:40 PM

You are aware that Dark Age of Camelot, EverQuest and EverQuest 2 have all received massive overhauls to their graphics engines since they first came out, and graphically are now completely different from the time they first came out.

It's easy to do. Square is just being stupid.

There's a difference between being stupid and making money.

It's actually a pretty smart move, in the respect that there are people who will buy it and play it and make them even more money they didn't need to spend. I won't be one of those people.

RipVanRagnarok

07-28-2009, 06:07 AM

now i hate to be a noob and ask but is the movie only in blu ray or is it for both blu ray and dvd?

Both, but the Blu-Ray edition has extra scenes, thus the name Advent Children: Complete.

Firefly

08-08-2009, 08:00 PM

Since I see that this is both an Advent Children tread, AND a Final Fantasy Thread, I figured I'd throw in a discussion about Final Fantasy Dissidia.

I didn't go through all the posts, so I dunno if someone else brought it up, but since the last few posts have been about AC, I'd just talk about it.

Final Fantasy Dissidia for the PSP is coming out very soon. What do you all think? Is it a win idea, or a fail one?

vejtornado

08-14-2009, 03:33 PM

Saw FF7 Advent Children complete in HMV today for £16. wish i had th money to have bought it

Flamzeron

08-18-2009, 06:10 PM

To be honest, I don't think I've seen Complete anywhere in stores.

SpiritofDestiny

08-18-2009, 08:24 PM

does anybody have the ending credits, without the credits? (without the text)

Xelphus

08-19-2009, 01:09 PM

sooo, a clean ending? not that i'm aware of

RipVanRagnarok

08-28-2009, 07:01 PM

Anyone get Dissidia yet?

manje10

08-30-2009, 01:50 AM

New pics. All in-game except for the first one.

http://i30.tinypic.com/28l534m.jpg
http://i29.tinypic.com/30cn7ep.jpg
http://i30.tinypic.com/zwfin7.jpg
http://i29.tinypic.com/2r20kqw.jpg
http://i32.tinypic.com/15i3oup.jpg
http://i27.tinypic.com/r02r11.jpg
http://i31.tinypic.com/2mfaphg.jpg

DTKIchigo

08-30-2009, 02:24 AM

i got dissidia awhile ago but it was in japanese i loved the game tho

[-Shirion-]

08-30-2009, 11:01 AM

Thanks for posting those screenshots, Manje.

Paragon

09-08-2009, 11:39 AM

Square Enix has dropped some knowledge about the highly-anticipated Final Fantasy XIII’s release date. As revealed via a leaked YouTube vid, the game will release on December 17, 2009 in Japan and cost a rather hefty ¥8800 (USD$95).

For anyone tempted to import a Japanese version of the game they'd have to part ways with $95 plus the obvious posted and package fees. Thats most likely over $100 for a game.

The price better not be crazy when its released in Europe.

manje10

09-09-2009, 02:28 AM

^^ The price will be fine in the EU and US. FFX and XII were the same in Japan yet priced normally overseas.

Lots of new media btw.

Summons at the beginning

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mcvkh6IM9CQ&feature=sub"]YouTube - IGN Daily Fix, 9-8: FFX13 News, & Beatles Rock Band

Trailer leaked showing some gameplay clips

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUfTMCSvxsQ"]YouTube - 2009/09/09 FBSã‚¹ãƒƒã‚*ãƒª!! FINAL FANTASY XIII

Shiva summon gameplay

Final Fantasy XIII: Shiba Summon Gameplay - Video (http://www.metacafe.com/watch/3371579/final_fantasy_xiii_shiba_summon_gameplay/)

Dragon fight gameplay

Final Fantasy XIII: Dragon Fight Gameplay - Video (http://www.metacafe.com/watch/3371580/final_fantasy_xiii_dragon_fight_gameplay/)

Lightning City gameplay (second video down on this page)

http://www.gamepro.com/article/news/211966/new-final-fantasy-xiii-gameplay/

Paragon

09-09-2009, 02:43 AM

Game looks more and more awesome everytime i see new footage.

wc_loc

09-09-2009, 04:52 AM

I think Versus XIII will be a much better game than this, and hopefully will be released simultaneously with Japan.

Also got Dissidia not long ago, awesome game. Downloaded Ad-Hoc party of the JP PSN store aswell which allows me to play online without having a wireless connection for my PSP.

vejtornado

09-09-2009, 12:41 PM

no don't hit the black guy with the baby chocobo in his afro. playin dissidia, its f****n awesome

TokyoRacer

09-10-2009, 08:05 AM

I still despite how pretty the game might look that it's going to suck. Square has a long history of dropping the ball on the things they majorly hype.

Skirr

09-10-2009, 01:24 PM

I still despite how pretty the game might look that it's going to suck. Square has a long history of dropping the ball on the things they majorly hype.

IT'S GUNNA BE BAD-ASS. SHUT YOUR MOUTH

/fanboyism.

but seriously, there aren't any flaws so far. Battle system looks slick, characters look well designed, storyline is par for the course for FFs nowadays (I don't care what ya say, FFXII just needed less politics and more characterization to be completely awesome) and over-all good feedback from the demo. So what is the problemo?

Houzukimaru

09-10-2009, 01:31 PM

I still despite how pretty the game might look that it's going to suck. Square has a long history of dropping the ball on the things they majorly hype.

I still get sad when I look at The Last Remnant :sad:

It had so much potential too

Paragon

09-28-2009, 12:07 PM

New TGS Trailer

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Really like Sazh's summoning.

Xelphus

09-28-2009, 08:49 PM

that looks sick

as long as its more interactive than XII i'll be good to go

[-Shirion-]

09-29-2009, 11:54 AM

I was able to watch the gameplay videos from the Tokyo Game Show on a HDTV in Indianapolis yesterday, and my God, it was absolutely beautiful.

Charliehsv

12-17-2009, 04:24 AM

So I got XIII today. Anyone else? :)

Elarius

12-17-2009, 04:37 AM

So I got XIII today. Anyone else? :)

I would guess you are Japanese, lucky lucky you, 3 months of wait for us in the EU, hope you are having fun though!

Xelphus

12-17-2009, 04:47 AM

So I got XIII today. Anyone else? :)

my guess is he got rid of his region codding and ordered a japanese copy

I'll wait till I get a copy that I can actually undertand the language

Or did you download a fansub?:suspicious:

Charliehsv

12-17-2009, 04:50 AM

Xelphus

12-17-2009, 04:56 AM

I'm not japanese, although I live in japan at the moment. :)

And thanks, I'm really enjoying it so far, although I haven't come far at all yet. Also, sometimes my playing speed gets slowed down because I stuble upon some unknown kanji XD

@Xelphus: There's no region coding on the PS3 ^^

well my first question is why you're living in Japan.

I plan to hopefully be stationed there (yokusuke to be exact) by next year

Now I'm curious if the 360 has region coding or not, prbly does

Charliehsv

12-17-2009, 05:01 AM

Elarius

12-17-2009, 05:07 AM

I am goin to tokyo next year as part of a project of mine for a few months so atm i am learning Japanese to make my stay comfortable, as for the game i hope they will allow the Japanese audio for the EU release even though something tells me that they wont allow it to happen when alot of JRPGs have opted for that past few years.

But its just a wish of mine really, i can deal with the english voices at the same time.

Paragon

12-17-2009, 05:10 AM

How are you finding the battle system?

Oxyuranus

12-17-2009, 05:11 AM

I'm a student here. ^^
Yokosuka? Isn't that like..Kanagawa-ken?

Afaik it does...

Ah, I love the voice actor cast of the game.
You have Sakamoto Maaya (Ryougi Shiki and Canaan) voicing Lighting, Ono Daisuke(Koizumi, Battler, Yukito) voicing Snow. :D

I had heard that the Beta version of FF14 online was going to be included along with FF13 in Japan only. Can you confirm this? Also, if confirmed, have you played it? I am buying a PS3 specificly for these two games (and the blu ray). I cant fricken wait for 14! I played 11 for years and I love the fact that it is supposedly going to cater to casual players as well as die hard gamers. I really got sick of spending 12 hours a night online trying to get one thing done only to have to get up and go to work at 4 am >.>

Thanks for the update

Edit: also, what pargon said :)

Charliehsv

12-17-2009, 06:15 AM

About the battle system: I'll state my thoughts about it later as I just got introduced to the role and leveling up system.

Yes, there is a FFXIV beta key included, I haven't tried it out yet though.

Xelphus

12-17-2009, 09:35 AM

yokosuka as in the US Navy base where the USS George Washington is based at

Elarius

12-18-2009, 04:08 PM

Stumbled upon some new vids that show some gameplay and a few ingame cutscenes but i'll only link the gameplay ones since the other ones seem to be spoilers.

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/japanese-vanille-final-fantasy/60140

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/japanese-crystal-final-fantasy/60150

There seems to be a lot of chain attacking different mobs with the new system, at the very least it seems to be very involved and with a good pace.

RipVanRagnarok

12-30-2009, 07:52 AM

Can't wait until XIII comes out in March.

Elarius

03-03-2010, 03:04 AM

Oxyuranus

03-03-2010, 03:10 AM

Reviving the thread since its quite relevant when the release is just 6 days from now, apparently my pre-order of the collector's edition will arrive early so personally looking forward to that.

As for how good the game will be time will tell i guess but at the very least it must be half decent.

So far the reviews are looking good so I am very hopeful. Its going to be beautiful if nothing else. The battle system also looks sweet thus far, from what I have seen. I cant wait to dedicate the next month or two of my gaming life to this :D

Paragon

03-03-2010, 03:17 AM

Reviving the thread since its quite relevant when the release is just 6 days from now, apparently my pre-order of the collector's edition will arrive early so personally looking forward to that.

As for how good the game will be time will tell i guess but at the very least it must be half decent.

What does the Collectors Edition offer? I saw on Amazon it was over £100, but couldn't figure out why.

Anyway, can't wait to play this...unfortunately i probably won't play it until the earliest of April, latest July. I want to play it on a PS3.

Elarius

03-03-2010, 03:22 AM

What does the Collectors Edition offer? I saw on Amazon it was over £100, but couldn't figure out why.

Anyway, can't wait to play this...unfortunately i probably won't play it until the earliest of April, latest July. I want to play it on a PS3.

Nah, its 55£-60£ and the extras that come with it is some silly stuff but for some reason i feel obliged to have them ( don't ask) :
http://www.game.co.uk/PS3/RolePlaying/~r346054/Final-Fantasy-XIII-Collectors-Edition-with-Preorder-Bonus-Character-Art-Postcards/

Scroll down slighly and you will see what comes with it.

It will only cost me 35£ though since i am using my game points so might as well get to use them on something of that price caliber.

RipVanRagnarok

03-08-2010, 08:05 AM

Sucks that the US doesn't get a CE, but at least there's a Limited Edition Strategy Guide. Good thing I pre-ordered. Can't wait to see it.

Xelphus

03-08-2010, 01:06 PM

yeah I'm picking it up tonight at midnight

already have both paid off

pyre-fly

03-08-2010, 01:13 PM

Already got my copy, bitches. :3

Elarius

03-09-2010, 09:51 AM

Forgot to post this yesterday, but was too busy to find time, a pic of the CE edition:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e18/lawlord/SS100568.jpg

I put them around a bit random but that's everything, as for the postcards, they only come with preordering from game.

aKiBa55

03-09-2010, 09:26 PM

So far XIII has been great, registered my copy and got some codes for PSICOM armor which looks awesome, overall good stuff :D

ShadowAbarai

03-09-2010, 10:29 PM

I have been playing this off and on since I got it and I have to say I am enjoying it. Still not past the first disc though wondering when I'm going to move onto the second disc, lol.

aKiBa55

03-10-2010, 07:51 AM

Trust me, that may not be for a while lol its Final Fantasy

Zero-sama

03-10-2010, 08:55 AM

I'm a hardcore fan of FF, but judging what critics said in some reviews that i've read, I didn't like what they said, like for example:

1-no side-quests
2-If you leader gets killed then game over
3-No villages to explore and buy items from them, the only way you buy items are in save points. Yes no villages, I am a big fan of FF villages and always like to buy from the little villages, not having one is a big disappointment.
4-They say the story is less impressive than X, 7, 8 and 12.
5-You can't pilot like before a ship to go wherever you wanted to go, this time it's walking.

^ That's pretty much what all the critics have establish in their reviews. Basically all have come to the same conclusion. The only thing I have read that it has and it's amazing it's the battle system and graphics.

I have mine reserved and could have bought it the day it came out, but based on those reviews I'm now like undecided, better wait till Versus comes out only on PS3. That game looks to be more promising even thought no gameplay has been yet shown. IMO Versus looks like a more FF game than F13.

Wras

03-10-2010, 12:28 PM

Yeah, the game that's pure hype and no release date must be better than FFXIII :P

You can read all the reviews you want, you won't really know until you play it. FFXIII not having villages, it's not like it's a part of the game they removed, they just make it so the storyline is more fluid, more like a journey from A to B to C. Personally, I am loving the storyline and the character development so far (only on the early parts of Chapter 6)

But that part where you die if your party leader is KO'd yeah, that I could do without. When everyone died in XII at least I could run like a bitch with my backup team that stayed level 8 the entire time.

Elarius

03-10-2010, 12:45 PM

Most websites give it 8.5 or something of that range, i think that is still a very good score despite having a few flaws and personally i like it, its far from perfect but still it has a lot of good things about it.

Only thing i cannot stand for the life of me is Vanille's voice, i wish one day they might make a dlc for the Japanese voices but it would require more than just simply putting audio(cutscenes etc.).

Xelphus

03-10-2010, 12:46 PM

villages aren't necessary for this game, especially considering you buy all your equipment online, which of course is much more realistic for the future

pyre-fly

03-10-2010, 04:04 PM

Xelphus

03-10-2010, 05:21 PM

I actually like the Australian twang

then again, my best friend is half aussie, so maybe I'm just used to it

ShadowAbarai

03-10-2010, 09:42 PM

Only thing i cannot stand for the life of me is Vanille's voice, i wish one day they might make a dlc for the Japanese voices but it would require more than just simply putting audio(cutscenes etc.).

I'm so glad to know that I'm not the only one finding her voice extremely annoying. She only has an accent part of the time when she talks and I think that makes it even more annoying for me. I'm in the middle of Ch.7 and there are things I don't like about this game but I'm still finding it enjoyable enough anyway.

Wras

03-10-2010, 09:43 PM

Vanille's voice is good enough in small doses, Fang I just wish had been done completely differently. The aussie seems very out of place and random. Some of Vanille's lines just make me cringe though, which is saddening because otherwise the voice acting is a huge improvement over previous FFs.

Oxyuranus

03-11-2010, 03:10 AM

Ive only gotten just into the first parts of the game so I cant really comment like many here but so far Im digging it. The graphics are extrondinary! and exactly what I would expect from SE. The voices are a bit annoying but damn, can you imagine the JP voices? LOL Yeah, Ill be fine with a bit of down under twang though I also love the land of OZ and everything about it so chalk it up to bais.

The battle system was suprising to me. I didnt realy read the reviews on this game prior to obtaining it so I was suprised they went back to a turn based format but it runs so fluid, so fast that it almost dosent feel like it. I'm also digging the unique weapons Iv seen so far. I dont know wtf to call Vanille's weapon. It reminds me of a ball in a cup lol

The only thing I dont like really has nothing to do with this game but the general direction of the FF series. Though its always been a mix of midevil meets futuristic, I think they are aiming more for the latter and I wish they would pull out another classic installment like FF9. Somthing a little more knightish if that makes any sense O.o I guess 14 will be that way but it will also be online.

So far and overall, my expectations have not been trodden upon. I'm loving the game, the story, the drama, the characters and the graphics. I feel you guys on the party lead dieing =s game over but I think that adds a challenge to the game and I dont mind steping up to plate. maybe Ill change my tune when I get past the stage of 5 star rating fights and actualy start the game as it were but right now, I dont mind.

If I had to rank, Id give it an 8.9-9.0 rating. Very good game indeed!

pyre-fly

03-11-2010, 11:21 AM

The party leader dying = game over thing is a pain in the ass depending on who your party leader is. If it's someone like Hope you have to be a lot more vigilant than if it were an HP powerhouse like Snow.

ShadowAbarai

03-11-2010, 11:33 AM

I don't mind the party leader dying = game over so much, I mean if you switch up your paradigms to better suit the battle you're currently in you should have no problem. I only had a problem in the very beginning and died once but once I switched my paradigms and shifted them according to the enemies fighting style I found it quite easy. Sometimes it can get a little time consuming switching up the paradigms but it also ends up being quite effective. I have to say as far as Hope is concerned sometimes I find him quite useful (though still underpowered) and sometimes he is less useful than others, depends on who is in your party at the time. I'm only on Ch.7 right now so I'm not sure if his abilities get better over time but I will just have to wait and see.

Wras

03-11-2010, 03:07 PM

The only thing I dont like really has nothing to do with this game but the general direction of the FF series. Though its always been a mix of midevil meets futuristic, I think they are aiming more for the latter and I wish they would pull out another classic installment like FF9. Somthing a little more knightish if that makes any sense O.o I guess 14 will be that way but it will also be online.

Heh, I just got to Ch. 11 (Gran Pulse) and just going by what the game has said, Pulse is going to have all the nature stuff, a very contrasting departure from the futuristic Cocoon. Personally, though, I prefer the Sci-Fi angle to the Fantasy angle; XII was more "fantasy" than anything but it still had cool looking tech.

Captain_Kisuke

03-12-2010, 08:52 AM

I'm very impressed with the game so far, only just on 2nd disc (Chapter 5). Obviously the whole thing looks stunning, but we knew it would anyways.

The battle system has impressed me too. At first, I thought that auto-battle would make things too easy and was a cop out but then realised the necessity of paradigm shifting...Cos you can't power level (which I usually do, so that's a little upsetting) and cos your party is split up quite a lot (at least where I am it is), you have to play tactically to survive. I get a lot out of that, cos in previous FFs, I underused characters a hell of a lot and it bugged me so I'm happy I get a good range.

As for the characters, I'm a big fan of Rikku and Yuffie so I was always gonna like Vanille (despite her sometimes frustrating voice) and Lightning is win, definitely one of my favourite FF characters, so long as she stays awesome...Snow annoys the hell out of me cos he has the mental age of a 10 year old...Hope used to annoy me but he's grown on me over Chapter 4 and he can be very useful in battle with Lightning (Synergist+Commando FTW)...Sazh I'm a bit indifferent to but he's kinda cool I guess, someone has to play the everyman...

The story is very interesting to me, I think it takes the sort-of oppressive government theme from 12 but adds personality to it, which I thought 12 lacked (with the exception of Balthier)...I think the lack of villages is simply cos there wouldn't really be any in a structure such as Cocoon...I dunno what Pulse is like though so that might change...(As a side note was very happy with the FF9 reference, with one of the ships being called the Lindblum, always thought that FF9 was underrated and overlooked)
The music is nothing special (probably cos of lack of Uematsu) but the battle theme is one of my favourites from all the FFs and cos that one is heard most it is quite important...

Overall, I'm very happy with it and the only thing I'm concerned about is that I'm on disc 2 already so I'm hoping that this one is the longest. Disc 1 seemed kinda short, perhaps I've been playing it too much in solid sessions :P

Oxyuranus

03-12-2010, 09:46 AM

question about the versions. I play on the PS3 and unless I am missing a secret compartment or I only have a single disc O.O I take it the xbox version has more or did I get ripped off? lol

Wras

03-12-2010, 10:01 AM

PS3 discs are blu ray discs. XBox360 are not. PS3 has all the same data, just on one disc (and in higher quality)

Oxyuranus

03-12-2010, 10:10 AM

PS3 discs are blu ray discs. XBox360 are not. PS3 has all the same data, just on one disc (and in higher quality)

ah, got ya. Wasnt thinking about the Blu rays having more storage capacity but I should have figured it. Thanks for the 411 Wras.

ShadowAbarai

03-12-2010, 04:42 PM

I'm playing on a 360 and it has 3 discs. I didn't buy it I've only rented (don't have the cash to buy it just yet) it and the guy at the register asked me why it had three discs and the PS3 version only had one. He was an older gentleman so I tried as best I could to explain it so that he would understand. He still seemed confused.

I'm currently on disc two Ch.9 though I think I'm close to Ch.10 but I'm not sure when it switches over to disc 3. I suppose I will just have to wait and see.

Also, I heard that once you do get to get off the linear path set by the game that it gets a lot more difficult, is anyone far enough along to confirm this? If so I think grinding to get to a higher level would be needed. I'm just curious is all, seeing how I rented the game I only have until Sunday (I think) and then I have to take it back.

I'm enjoying the story so far though, I'm hoping that eventually Hope will get stronger and be less whiny. I feel like in certain battles he's really quite helpful and others I feel like it's almost a hassle having him there because he dies so quickly/easily. As much as I cannot stand Vanille's voice I do find her very useful while in battle. Part of me wishes that Snow had weapons (ex: guns, sword, etc) but then I suppose he'd be even stronger than he is. I'm still not really sure how I feel about Fang or Sazh, both can be useful in the right situation but I just don't know about them yet. Lightning seems to be my favorite character in this game so far, as cliche' as that may sound.

Wras

03-12-2010, 08:45 PM

Don't bother grinding. I'm a good way into Chapter 11 which everyone considers the "magic chapter" since you open up the Calm Lands Gran Pulse. Half of the monsters will oneshot you and you'll encounter a lot of fights so tough you literally have to run away. The point is not for you to grind and start sidequesting, the point is for you to continue the story.

You can keep going after you beat it and that's when (ideally) you should spend hours on the sidequests.

I like all the characters, really, and the development they go through is amazing. Moreso than 7-12 all of the cast feel like they have a strong reason for being there. Though, some of the developing, character-changing scenes are a little forced and the dialogue is pretty standard FF (melodramatic, cheesy at the worst of times, etc), but not enough to ruin my experience.

Elarius

03-13-2010, 01:51 AM

Ah don't get me wrong peeps on what i said about Vanille, i don't hate the aussie accent, it's the high pitched voice that annoys the hell out of me, as a personality she is fine and there is always a need to have a cheerful character anyways, kind of balances the mood of the whole theme.

At least now i know why i recognise Lightning's voice, same voice actress that did Liara T'soni in Mass Effect, one of my favourite voices in games.

Xelphus

03-13-2010, 11:32 AM

yeah i just made it to chapter 11 (where most fights are indeed wtf@#$@@#$%@!!!!!)

personally I'm loving the story and the character development, and the combat system is top notch

ShadowAbarai

03-13-2010, 03:08 PM

I just made it to chapter 10 and I'm fairly interested to see how everything plays out as far as the story is concerned. From what I understand the boss on this chapter is supposedly quite tough but I am not that far yet, it's just what I read on another forum. The thing I don't like about Vanille's accent is the fact that during conversation it is almost non-existant but then it will appear out of nowhere which is the main reason it seems to get on my nerves. Other than that and her sometimes being overly cheerful I do like her as a character.

I do really hope that Hope does develop further and become a lot stronger and overall better in combat. I find that I the other characters have begun to grow on me too. Sazh is good for light comic relief which is needed every on once in a while and Vanille is so cheery she lightens the mood as well.

Do more characters end up joing your party or are these the only ones that are playable? It would be interesting to have maybe one more party member to level up and expand upon.

For anyone who is interested, being the Photoshop nerd that I am, I have been working on a few wallpapers, if anyone wants me to post them here when they are finished I will happily. ;)

Oh I meant to mention I noticed while searching on ebay for some items that people are selling codes for the little chocobo "pet" you can have for your avatar. Another forum I go on people are wanting these codes like crazy and practically begging for someone to give them one. On ebay they're selling for some pretty ridiculous prices if you ask me. My question is how exclusive were these items? Someone mentioned you can buy them on xbox.com for a lot of money but they never say how much a lot of money was. Just curious is all.

aKiBa55

03-13-2010, 05:36 PM

If I'm not mistaken for now the chocobos are only available via the collector' edition, and for people who buy the 360 version they have avatar clothes that give your avatar PSICOM armor. I got the armor, its kind of cool looking. Most likely that stuff will be released in a few weeks for like 5 dollars a piece or something

Wras

03-13-2010, 08:44 PM

aKiBa55

03-14-2010, 06:33 AM

Okay I just got to the second disk after like 8 hours. I'm wondering how long this game actually is. Are they going to do what Blue Dragon did and open everything up for you on the third disk or is it just going to be like a 20-25 hour adventure.

pumpkin13

03-14-2010, 06:47 AM

am well bummed out that it's not coming out on pc...

ShadowAbarai

03-14-2010, 08:16 AM

One problem I see with the combat, especially looking ahead.

A lot of the fights right now are just so long; after a string of fast-paced, easy fights, it's easy to feel frustrated when you come up to boss after mini-boss of tough enemies. I'm right before the end boss of Chapter 12 right now and the Juggernauts and Adaman-whatevers (the HUGE walking things) and the Tyrants are more of a chore than a challenge.

With no MP and the system the way it is, fights are "endless", and some of the enemies having 2-3million HP is getting slightly ridiculous. Still having a lot of fun, though.

I have to agree with you as far as the combat is concerned. It is true (though I'm not as far along as you are) but the battles seem to just go on and on forever when earlier on they didn't last nearly as long. If it is only going to get worse I'm not sure how I feel about that. I am still enjoying the game though but we'll see what happens when I get into it further.

Okay I just got to the second disk after like 8 hours. I'm wondering how long this game actually is. Are they going to do what Blue Dragon did and open everything up for you on the third disk or is it just going to be like a 20-25 hour adventure.

From what I understand the game eventually opens up where you can explore for a short period of time before going back on the linear path that the game has set for you. It's what I've read and heard from other people so eventually it will open up but I have not gotten to that point yet.

Wras

03-14-2010, 12:20 PM

Chapter 11 is easily the longest, even if you don't choose to do the sidequests. I'm kind of regretting not taking the time to explore, not because I'm hurting for CP but because it would have been a nice change of pace. 12 is pretty abrupt and I don't know how long 13 will be.

I would imagine for a 3 disc thing you get to it somewhere near the end, like in VII where the only thing "new" in the 3rd disc was the final dungeon, but you can go back and explore the rest of the world and do other stuff.

Paragon

03-14-2010, 12:26 PM

aKiBa55

03-14-2010, 01:07 PM

I have to agree with you as far as the combat is concerned. It is true (though I'm not as far along as you are) but the battles seem to just go on and on forever when earlier on they didn't last nearly as long. If it is only going to get worse I'm not sure how I feel about that. I am still enjoying the game though but we'll see what happens when I get into it further.

From what I understand the game eventually opens up where you can explore for a short period of time before going back on the linear path that the game has set for you. It's what I've read and heard from other people so eventually it will open up but I have not gotten to that point yet.

Ah okay that makes some sense. Thanks Shadow and Wras

ShadowAbarai

03-14-2010, 06:31 PM

Wras

03-14-2010, 06:57 PM

Okay I'm starting to get really aggravated with the Ch. 10 boss, but only when he puts the doom counter on. Before that nothing is a problem but once he puts the doom counter on I can't manage to do enough damage to drop him. I've tried twice so far first time I was using Lighting, Fang, and Hope. The second time I used Lightning Fang, and Vanille. Second time around I did better having Vanille helped things a lot more but once that doom counter goes up like I said I just can't manage to do enough damage to drop him. I'm really aggravated and I'd like to get this fight over with so that I can move on in the game. If anyone has any help/tips I'm open to suggestion, thanks.

I should mention that this is the first time I have had a problem so far while playing this game.

Best advice for that fight is to go all out as much as you can during the last part. When he's doing that really long charge time for Destrudo, if you do enough damage, Destrudo only does 1/5th of the damage. Kill him fast enough, heads first, then go all out whenever you think you can afford Relentless Assault or Aggression or Tri-disaster if you want to stagger him.

ShadowAbarai

03-14-2010, 07:05 PM

I fought that boss with no trouble at all. I'm having trouble with Cid Raines, I think that's his name. Sorry for the confusion.

Wras

03-14-2010, 07:24 PM

Oh my bad, I didn't even know Cid used a Doom Counter haha! (I don't know why I keep thinking the big 5-headed dude is on Chapter 9...)

He's susceptible to Slow and Curse, if you wanna go that route. Drive up his chain gauge when he uses defensive mode and when you stagger him, launch him as much as you can. When he's in offensive mode, use Solidarity or just make sure someone is in SEN. He uses his Seraphic Ray thing randomly so the best thing to do is just be prepared for it.

When the first stagger is over, he doesn't announce his forms (I don't think). If he's healing or using defensive, build that chain gauge. If he's offensive, stick with a tank. But how often he switches up his game depends on how quickly you kill him.

ShadowAbarai

03-14-2010, 07:43 PM

Yeah it seems once his health is down to near death he puts the doom counter on, now I've only fought him twice, and for some reason I can't manage to bring him down. Thank you for the tips I will give this a try and hopefully be able to get past him so that I can move on in the story and the game. Do you know what characters are best to use? As I said I seemed to do much better when I had Vanille instead of Hope. (had Lightning and Fang too but saw that some people were using Lightning, Snow and Hope) Anyways, I hope to be able to get past this part in a somewhat timely manner, lol. Again thank you I appreciate the help.

Wras

03-14-2010, 07:51 PM

Vanille vs Hope depends on if youre going to use Fang. Ideally, you want a SAB and SYN so hope/fang are good, but Snow is a far better sentinel than Fang (though the guidebook is very biased in favor of fang). I would stick with Vanille since she can switch to SAB, probably has more HP, and for me has always been a more reliable and preferable healer.

I used Light/Snow/Vanille during that one, and Vanille was a healer as often as she was RAV, so I didn't have any buffers, and I managed to get him down without even seeing doom. Using COM/COM/RAV when he was Staggered and launching him as often and as long as possible was always a great help. It's a practice fight, not one about being under or overpowered, which is the good part of it.

Good luck! He can be a bitch but he's my favorite boss (second to Bulbasaur :odd:)

ShadowAbarai

03-14-2010, 09:37 PM

pyre-fly

03-15-2010, 12:25 AM

Customize your paradigms so you have one with Vanille as a SAB. Simple.

I went with Fang/Snow/Hope and had no problems with the battle at all. A lot of it was spent alternating between COM/SEN/RAV and COM/SEN/MED for Cid's offensive shift and either COM/RAV/RAV or COM/RAV/MED while he was in the defensive or recovery shifts. Once staggered, COM/COM/RAV did a nice job of whittling away his health.

If you time your attacks well enough, you can juggle Cid in the air for quite some time even after his stagger gauge is depleted. He can't exactly do much while he's being beaten to a pulp in mid-air (which means that he can't blast you half to death with his Seraphic Ray thingy or hit you with a doom counter). Again, this is assuming that you time your attacks to perfection.

Cid's the easier of the two major battles in Chapter 10 by far. I would seriously rethink my battle party and paradigms if I were you, because something there just isn't working.

And Wras, we've been over this already. It's Venosaur! :yelling:

Wras

03-15-2010, 08:45 AM

Mediguard can do wonders for eliminating the need for a Medic, but in some of the later fights you don't really have that luxury :d: but one thing that's also great to remember is that Snow in Sentinel automatically reduces the damage for party-wide attacks just by being there. This is a must for some of the harsher hits.

edit: lol@ the Jabberwocky and Bandersnatch enemies in Ch. 13

ShadowAbarai

03-15-2010, 01:36 PM

I do have my characters spec'd so that at least one of them is a SAB but we will see what happens I am going to attempt this again. Hopefully this time it will work out for me lol.

Yexley

03-15-2010, 07:20 PM

Hope's a twat and I hope he dies.

ShadowAbarai

03-15-2010, 07:49 PM

Hope's a twat and I hope he dies.

^ Made me laugh. ;) He's really really annoying and whiny and he's also extremely weak. At least so far. Maybe that will change?

Oh and I finally made it past Cid Raines, hooray! lol

Yexley

03-15-2010, 08:12 PM

Yeah, I don't see that he has any redeeming features. I've only been playing it for a bit, I'm on the Odin fight. I died a few times because Hope is so shit.

pyre-fly

03-15-2010, 08:36 PM

Don't worry, puberty starts to hit sometime between there and the end of the game.

Yexley

03-15-2010, 08:44 PM

Lightning had better not decide he's not a complete loser.

Oxyuranus

03-16-2010, 02:36 AM

Lightning had better not decide he's not a complete loser.

LOL he gets better, well atleast his abilities do anyway. Hes pretty kick ass with medic and ravager for me (not sure what chap I'm on but its right before rescueing afroman and Vanille) and his protect/shell buff later on are a life saver for some of the boss fights. Hes weak sauce though and requires alot of protection. Once you get to the point where you have more 3 people parties then two he is much more efficiant because the others can keep damage off of him with Sentiniel and tearing up mobs as comandos.

BTw, on a side note, when did the FF series mix with Transformers again? LOL

Yexley

03-16-2010, 08:37 AM

Oxyuranus

03-16-2010, 09:56 AM

I know, that made me go a bit wtf when they started turning into bikes and shit. I guess he wouldn't be so bad in a 3 person party, it's just trying to cover him against Odin with just Lightning was a right pain.

well the Odin fight was special. Being a heal whore was one of the stipulations to obtaining him so yea, it was pretty difficult. It took me 3 tries to get him and boy was I glad when it was over! LOL After that point though he becomes better. As you beef up his buffing roll he pretty much takes care of himself, minus the initial sequence before he finishes buffing. The only other time is when you have him nuking as ravenger and he pulls hate if you let him loose too much. In a 3 person party, especialy with a Sentinel hes pretty damn good all be it annoying in the cut scenes just because his character sucks to me. Way too damn cliche. He litteraly reminds me of a mini Vaan from 12.

ShadowAbarai

03-16-2010, 11:52 AM

Well I'm on Ch. 11 now and am going to attempt to fight the 5th Eidolon and hopefully it will turn out fine. I didn't have a problem with Fang's on the previous chapter so we'll see how this one goes.

I believe when I was fighting Odin I died twice, because Hope is pretty much useless at that point, before finally managing to get through it.

Still enjoying the story and I want to see how it turns out in the end.

Yexley

03-16-2010, 01:35 PM

Elarius

03-16-2010, 01:53 PM

The synergist role is handy for that fight for the damage reduction buffs and the combo i used was commando/medic mostly, its a slow fight, at least i experiened it that way, took me 3-4 tries, the area of effect melee attack it has is the main pain and half way he has the other attack also but as long as you make sure that you have all the damage reduction buffs it should be fairly ok.

Yexley

03-16-2010, 02:17 PM

Yeah, it's just annoying that I can't control Hope. And seriously, his mum must have known he was going to be a whiney little bitch, who calls their son Hope.

ShadowAbarai

03-16-2010, 03:04 PM

I just fought some giant flower bug thing in Chapter 5. He keeps changing element which is a pain and I can't seem to get a chain going on him. Then he 1 hit killed Lightning after I got him to half health, what a pain.

I remember that fight, it was a pain for me as well. It took me three or four tries before I finally got past him.

I thought the same thing when I first found out his name was Hope. Not sure why anyone would name their son Hope, I could almost understand if the child was a girl.

Yexley

03-16-2010, 03:57 PM

I had to be the healer with Lightning and Hope just took so long to deal damage.

ShadowAbarai

03-16-2010, 04:07 PM

How long did it take you? Some of these battles seem to take a really long time while others seem to go by quite fast. I prefer the ones that don't take forever and a day to get through which is probably going to become a problem the further along I get in this game.

Yexley

03-16-2010, 04:36 PM

Took me ages. Most battles I finish well under a minute.

ShadowAbarai

03-16-2010, 07:21 PM

Most battles don't take me very long at all but from what people have said the battles tend to get a lot longer the further into the game you get which I'm really not looking forward to. Hopefully I will have a really good team and be able to get through it fairly quickly.

Xelphus

03-18-2010, 10:49 AM

ShadowAbarai

03-18-2010, 03:48 PM

just finished the storyline. Took the cheap and dirty way to the final boss though lol

so, pertinent question to anyone who's already beaten the game as well, can you go back and beat the final boss again after you've already beaten the game, or are you locked out of it?

From what I understand after you have beaten the game you have the option of going back and doing certain parts again, so going back to beat the final boss is a yes. (I believe there is an achievement related to the final boss, something about getting a 5 star rating on the fight). People have said that you have a better chance of getting that after you've beat the game and can go back and fight the final boss again.