Hip-hop FC

[notorious UZIMAKI]

searched for this but didn't see anything. i know we gotta enough heads on BE to populate - so - must love the art. and give me your current favorite 5 or 10 artist/groups.

1) biggie
2) wu-tang
3) outkast
4) 2pac
5) de la soul
6) del the funky homosapien
7) redman
8) lupe fiasco
9) tribe called quest
10) dre/snoop/g funk

could keep going

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/5412/53401071.jpg

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/4441/hiphopfc2.jpg

Owner - notorious UZIMAKI
Co-Owner - The Sultan of Sound - Emperor Tomato Ketchup
Co-Owner - Hype Man - GodsGift88
b-boy - kochito22
on the wheelz of steel - anubis609
spell checker and breaking - gruja
graffiti - CharChar
reppin' the east side of the down under - wc_loc
g-code samurai - OminousG
cuttin in the booth - d2sharp
mixmaster - Ichigoat
the surreptitious one - micsquared
the awakened - HipHopShinigami
darker than black - dark shadow

[GodsGift88]

Yoo, joinage homie. Co-Own if possible?!

1. 2Pac
2. Outkast (Dre more so though)
3. Wu Tang
4. Dr. Dre/Snoop/Nate Dogg/Warren G
5. Biggie
6. Kanye (Up until Graduation)/Weezy (Up until he released Carter III)
7. Tribe Called Quest
8. Drake
9. Fabolous
10. T.I.

So many TRUE artists come to mind, so I can't name 'em all. A lotta underground keeps Hip-Hop real still.

[kochito22]

Can I join?

1. Nas
2. Lupe Fiasco
3. Tupac
4. Big Pun
5. Jay-Z
6. Papoose
7. Ludacris
8. Kanye West
9. Jadakiss
10. Cassidy

[notorious UZIMAKI]

oops, guess my last post didn't make it - anyway - both of you are in. GG - co-ownage. rep the FC tag or make a new one!

- good lists, agree its impossible to limit it to 10, i had about 20 others i wanted to throw in, and i could probably change my top 10 about 20 times in one week

[GodsGift88]

Yee, I feel you on the changing of the list. I can change it daily depending on what I hear that day & how lyrically they get into. But yo homie, we should probably see if we can get the 'Future of Hip-Hop' thread & everyone who posted in there to come here & we can get it poppin' again.

[notorious UZIMAKI]

done and done - word being spread

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I'm in. Second co-own? I'll be working on a few banners any which way. Expect that tommorow.

Anyways..

Top ten Hip-hop artists?
OutKast
DJ Cam
Erykah Badu
Massive Attack
Tribe Called Quest
The Roots
Aesop Rock
J Dilla
MF DOOM
De La Soul

Favorite MCs?

Q-Tip
Big Boi
Aesop Rock
Black Thought
Jay-Z
Mos Def
Andre 3000
Quasimoto
Common
Raekwon

[notorious UZIMAKI]

hell yeah, love aesop and de la, and otherwise great list - added you as co-owner.
also - any art is def. appreciated!

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Verison one:
http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww244/fourthoddysee/hip-hop-FC.png
Version two:
http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww244/fourthoddysee/hiphopFC2.png
I'll be re-tweaking that so it's better, consider it a test run. Let's see.. I'll be doing a Definitive Jux siggy, A Jay-Z siggy and an Outkast siggy as well. Prehaps A Wu one as well, but after that, request something. I like to practice on these.

[notorious UZIMAKI]

hellz yeah! like number 2. make the text pop a bit more. also please, PLEASE do a wu sig! killa beez on the swarm!

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Wu'll be tommorow.

Def Jux:
http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww244/fourthoddysee/hiphopFC3.png
Very simple, yet I like it a lot.

[GodsGift88]

Yo, mad props ETK! Request of Outkast, would be amaaaazing !!

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Yo, mad props ETK! Request of Outkast, would be amaaaazing !!
Andre, Big Boi or both?

[GodsGift88]

Both if possible, would be much appreciated.

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Both if possible, would be much appreciated.
And you want that with your name on it or just 'The Hip-Hop FC'?

[GodsGift88]

Hip-Hop FC.

[notorious UZIMAKI]

yeah - second the outkast - they have a sweet ass logo as is.

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Speaking of OutKast..

http://www.mediafire.com/?yn2lyowmgjn

I give Idlewild too little credit. It's a great album in it's own right.

[notorious UZIMAKI]

good shit - idlewild was great. outkast has the rare ability to adapt and evolve and still make great shit. from jazz to aliens to electronic back to old school. one of my all time favorites.

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good shit - idlewild was great. outkast has the rare ability to adapt and evolve and still make great shit. from jazz to aliens to electronic back to old school. one of my all time favorites.
I think it's a bit daunting in how eclectic it is, but it's one of their better records.. Lacks the excess of Speakerboxxx/The Love Below but remains as ambitious as that pair of records. An intimidating record at first IMO.

[notorious UZIMAKI]

great assessment. another good example of exploration is wyclef. the carnival was classic. his next album was soso, but still had some interesting production, i think there was a country- hiphop mash. was listening to fugees lately and damn, that was a great album. too many suns shining

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great assessment. another good example of exploration is wyclef. the carnival was classic. his next album was soso, but still had some interesting production, i think there was a country- hiphop mash. was listening to fugees lately and damn, that was a great album. too many suns shining
The Score is a masterpiece. No doubt about that. It was like several suns burning too hot. Wyclef had another album in him, so did Lauryn Hill, Hill made another masterpiece.. and then went off the deep end when the studios snubbed her follow-up, but that's another story entirely. Thing is, The Score is one of those rare albums that destroys the group's creative reserves, but it's so perfect, so polished.. they never have to make another album again. Perect example on the rock side of things is The Stone Roses, or The La's. Two great bands that wore themselves out after putting out too good of an album. It's a shame, but at least we have The Score.

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Also, for this year.. This is the best I've heard this year. (http://soulvakispacestation.wordpress.com/2009/06/03/dj-signify/)

[notorious UZIMAKI]

homie - you gotta give us a link. want to listen to dj s. fugees were short lived, thats why wu tang will always be classic. 8 different directions, and come the same. best of the best and dont try hard. what deck...

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This should work...

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ESIRZ3HR

[GodsGift88]

Listened to that shit, ETK. Top of the line easily.

Just listened to the Idlewild CD & I again say OutKast is in the Top 3 as Hip-Hop's greatest. Hollywood Divorce still is an amazing track.

Edit: Chronomentrophobia still is an off the wall & classic Andre track, love it.

The Art of Storytelling Part 4 is CLASSIC & just goes to say how OutKast outclasses others.

Edit #2: What do y'all think about Willie the Kid??? The track No More off the Gangsta Grillz Mixtape is fire. Lloyd kills that, but Willie is nice too. Slept on very much.

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Edit #2: What do y'all think about Willie the Kid??? The track No More off the Gangsta Grillz Mixtape is fire. Lloyd kills that, but Willie is nice too. Slept on very much.
I haven't heard that. Got a link?

[GodsGift88]

http://www.imeem.com/jetstream88/music/QcVOkewk/dj-drama-no-more-ft-lloyd-willie-the-kid-ti/

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http://www.imeem.com/jetstream88/music/QcVOkewk/dj-drama-no-more-ft-lloyd-willie-the-kid-ti/
Link appears to be broken. But that may be my internet connection acting up.

edit- The link is broken, just copy the whole thing again and re-paste it.

[GodsGift88]

ETK, check it now. It should work, it comes up for me.

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ETK, check it now. It should work, it comes up for me.
Bah. Still not working. I'll see if I can get directly to Imeem and receive the link from the site. Shouldn't be too difficult.

[GodsGift88]

Damn, alright my bad. For some reason no videos or anything on YouTube. I could send you the actual file in a PM if necessary??

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Damn, alright my bad. For some reason no videos or anything on YouTube. I could send you the actual file in a PM if necessary??
Yeah, looks like that's how it's going to have to happen.

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Eh, Doesn't leave much impression on me. It's mostly that chorus that does it in for me.

[GodsGift88]

That's what I meant more so than the whole song. Lloyd's chorus kills the song rather than Willie & T.I.

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That's what I meant more so than the whole song. Lloyd's chorus kills the song rather than Willie & T.I.
True. Both of them do pretty well with what they've got.

I think I'll up a Day Laborers track for here, tell me what you think of think.

[GodsGift88]

Alright, post it & I'll listen.

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Two things:

Hudson Mohawke - Polkadot Blues
http://www.mediafire.com/?tt2ntkiwzmg

The Day Laborers - Burn One (Ft. Mac Lethal)
http://www.mediafire.com/?4zzhyzoaljz

The first song, I don't know how to describe, it's kind of crazy, glitchy instrumental. But it's also really, really good. Really upbeat.

Second one is some old school-esque shit, sick beat, overall, very good.

Both are off of albums from this year.

[GodsGift88]

First one: That beat is odd, but the electronic tone to it makes it hella dope.

2nd one: Hahaha! Clownin' The Ying Yang Twins. But, Fort Minor was my first thought when I heard the flow. Shit is good actually.

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First one: That beat is odd, but the electronic tone to it makes it hella dope.

2nd one: Hahaha! Clownin' The Ying Yang Twins. But, Fort Minor was my first thought when I heard the flow. Shit is good actually.
Yeah, Hudson Mohawke has this crazy electronic deal going on. I want more, so far, there's only an EP.

[GodsGift88]

Yeah, Hudson Mohawke has this crazy electronic deal going on. I want more, so far, there's only an EP.

The right type of flow on that and that song could be the business. We need a Hip-Hop type of emotion, that would be dope !!

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I've come across a few gems. I'll have them up in a few..

Edit- Having some trouble with uploads. Looks for the 9th Wonder mix of Jean Grae's Jeanius. I've had it for a while, I think you can find it on Demonoid.. Anyway, great album. 9th Wonder's production is smooth and Jean is on the attack. One of the best hip-hop efforts in the last few years IMO.

DON'T get THE Blue Sky, Black Death mix that was released last year. Look for the 9th wonder mix.

Edit- The mix to avoid is called Evil Jeanius for reference. Here's a snippet of a review.

Jean Grae has always been a fascinating if somewhat perplexing presence in underground hip-hop; as an artist and lyricist, she's capable of both traumatic vivid imagery and lighthearted just-fuckin'-around comedy, quick-witted tongue-twisting and conversational observation, send-you-home-crying battle raps and gripping narrative storytelling. Unfortunately, every time she's seemed on the brink of some major breakthrough, something somewhere gets thrown off the rails. Jean has every right and reason to be as well-known as, at the very least, the Roots and Talib Kweli (who she's collaborated with successfully over the last few years). But for whatever reason-- bootleggers, disillusionment, label jerk-around moves, the industry's inability to properly market a female artist who operates more as a superhuman MC than as a sex symbol-- she's wound up operating closer to the fringes than someone with her experience and skill deserves, wavering between contemplations of retirement and selling 16-bar guest appearances on Craigslist.

So it's easy to wonder what things'd be like for her if Jeanius came out as scheduled, way back in 2004, rather than earlier this summer. That's because it's the kind of album you pull out when you want to convince a friend that this rapper he hasn't heard can do all this incredible shit, a potential career-definer that people can turn to when they want to quickly and definitively sum up the qualities of an artist with one easily-recommendable release.

EDIT EDIT- Found what appears to be a working link. (http://twoseventeen.net/?p=81)

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Doo Wop (That Thing) has to be one of the dopest jams ever. Shame about Lauryn Hill's insanity.
Also, the video is amazing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE6Qcc6VDo8

[notorious UZIMAKI]

fuck yeah ETK. lauren was a goddess. below - most underrated hiphop album ever outside of the bay area.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7_jbluF0qo

[notorious UZIMAKI]

deck and bobby digital
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea1jjGg54NM

most underrated of the wu. check out the 'non raekwon' verse on cream

[GodsGift88]

fuck yeah ETK. lauren was a goddess. below - most underrated hiphop album ever outside of the bay area.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7_jbluF0qo

MAN ! I didn't think anyone else was knowin' about this. Good looks my man, good looks.

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Deltron's beloved by a lot of people. I think he's made better albums though. Like Both Sides of the Brain.

Also, check your new user notes for something cool.

(Directed to Noto-UZI)

[notorious UZIMAKI]

hells yeah son. love the sig. but del reached his pinnacle w deltron. unfortunately hes too into many many drugs to give the rap game a true try.

[notorious UZIMAKI]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aogym6kIoSo

our official drink an old -e . and chill song in highschool/college

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This is a great one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywVRX2jE8wg

[notorious UZIMAKI]

hells yeah - you's an old soul - remind me of this gem when i used to worship gangstarr -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IoPeNC4k_0

[notorious UZIMAKI]

my misguided high school anthem -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hst7j2u3W3Q

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I often wonder what would happen if Gang Starr got back together. They're one of the few groups that could probably do a 'reunion album' well.

[notorious UZIMAKI]

dj premier is second level - heard he was working w kweli. and guru was all about jazzmatazz and isht. gotta rep - common and hitek once more - sungod -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRREz1BCPb4

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Sigh. I want the Common who made shit like Like Water for Chocolate and Ressurection back.

Also - check this out. (http://www.4shared.com/file/125589653/2ec5d03c/02_Is_It.html) Is it by Mojoe, deep, smooth southern shit.

[notorious UZIMAKI]

kentucky fried isht. lovin it. - who dis? yeah and common and kanye hooked up, so the questions is gone.

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kentucky fried isht. lovin it. - who dis? yeah and common and kanye hooked up, so the questions is gone.
Mojoe's the name of the group. It's off of Dirty Genes, which was probably my favorite hip-hop album of last year.

Kanye and Common are doing some stuff together? Shit, that would've been good news before Auto-tune. I find myself doubting Kanye after auto-tune.

[GodsGift88]

Y'all fuck with Locksmith, the homie from the Bay?? EA Ski produced him and they are trying to say, these two are the Dre/Em of the Bay. Gotta say, the dude goes hard & speaks his mind. Y'all want some songs??

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Y'all fuck with Locksmith, the homie from the Bay?? EA Ski produced him and they are trying to say, these two are the Dre/Em of the Bay. Gotta say, the dude goes hard & speaks his mind. Y'all want some songs??
Links are welcome. Always welcome.
Check out the link I put up a few replies previous. That shit's great.

[GodsGift88]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nw6NlI1vy9Y

Wax and Herbal T. They are pretty decent. Check out more videos on YouTube.

Here's Locksmith like I said ETK.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GhKCj8WVzI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnFGYENu9Gc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fx0Q-jV7f-s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DUOWECtzEI

That last song, Locksmith gets @ Kanye hahaha. Does remind of Em, with that crazy flow & just damn near bluntness that is needed. His battles are ridiculous if you haven't seen the videos yet.

Edit: BTW ETK, that Mojoe was the shit. I like the vibe I got from that song. Good looks on that.

[anubis609]

Wuzzuh? Was I good to join the hip hop FC?

[GodsGift88]

^^Yee. Official welcome from one ya co-owners homie. Just get right into the topic.

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Other Co-Owneer welcomes you.

GG:The first track, the most interesting thing about it was seeing how they made the track with the oven (lol) and all the DIY gear. They're creative. Decent, I'll probably check them out again.

[GodsGift88]

Haha yea, that whole beginning was creative as hell. Reminded me of that Fort Minor track, but they have some good freestyles on YouTube if you still tryna' check them out.

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Spun 'Therapudic', guy's got a great flow, but I think I'd tire of him quickly if I was listening to an album.

[GodsGift88]

Yea, I was sort of over his anger management approach fairly quickly but he definitely has amazing flow. Some of his punch lines were fairly creative though, give him props.

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He's definitely got it, I just personally prefer the smoother blends of hip-hop.

[notorious UZIMAKI]

Wuzzuh? Was I good to join the hip hop FC?

please 'nubis, had you in mind when i started this

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http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_rEMCHz_zUjY/SJ-SfzwRbnI/AAAAAAAAAxs/MOqCJH5e8sU/s320/A+Tribe+Called+Quest+-+People%27s+Instinctive+Travels+And+The+Paths+Of+R hythm.jpg
The best reason I can think of for this not being discussed as often as The Low End Theory and Midnight Marauders is that it's title is too long. Seriously, it has some of Tribe's finest shit on it. It's also a good example of how to use a synth in hip-hop.

[notorious UZIMAKI]

bonita, bonita, bonita.

left my wallet in el segundo - love that isht

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bonita, bonita, bonita.
That and "Electric Relaxation" off of Marauders.. Two of the best 'wooing' songs Tribe wrote.. with ease.

[notorious UZIMAKI]

not to date myself, but thats one of the first cds i ever had. i remember walking around high school bw periods w my headphones on and my 3sec skip protection discman bumpin award tour, haha

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These guys deserve some love.

Dollabin - Styles You Can't Afford (http://dollabin.com/)

Really great hip-hop and for the price of nothing. These guys are offering their hard work for free. That deserves some mad props. From their site..

We love records.

As people continue to download mp3s like eating french fries, we wanted to try and make the release of our music a memorable experience, like pulling a classic record from the crate. Similar to jazz albums of the past, we've added a set of liner notes, to bring a little more context to each song. We've also made individual songs available for download, in addition to the full album.

We hope you enjoy.

DJ Ian Head and Verbal Math
aka Dollabin

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Morning hip-hop:
http://www.4shared.com/file/125838851/b9a7d9b0/03_-_Part_3.html
Off of an interesting mix by The Gaslamp Killer. Cool bit of Turntablism.

[anubis609]

^ Love it. I could scratch and/or spit to the beat all day. I love the drum pattern from 1:42 - 3:32 boom-boom-boom-tap--booboom-boom-tap, then after 16 bars boom-boom-boom-tap-tap--boom-tap--boom-tap--boom-tap...

Man... It's makin me wanna spark a cipher.

[notorious UZIMAKI]

^yeah, live drums make a big difference. lovin it.

[anubis609]

On that post from skinny jeans, it made me remember one of the lines from an "unreleased" track I did. The beat was kinda crazy off tempo with the snare and drums, but me and my homie worked with it. It went,

My vocabulary's engine'll kick your intestines in, convertin your testicles to estrogen
I'll lyrically slaughter the alphabet in reverse and disfigure letters until their linear structures disperse
I'll cripple the language with an accurate use of adjectives
shittin on you faggots with a mass amount of laxatives
... [I don't remember the middle filler shit, haha]
Sacrilegious, my actions are vicious
like piranhas with appetites from marijuana addictions.
My technique is sadistic and twisted,
paintin with colors from kaleidoscopic collisions.

I still gotta get all my tracks onto a site, so ETK can peep em out instead of goin to myspace.

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^ Love it. I could scratch and/or spit to the beat all day. I love the drum pattern from 1:42 - 3:32 boom-boom-boom-tap--booboom-boom-tap, then after 16 bars boom-boom-boom-tap-tap--boom-tap--boom-tap--boom-tap...

Man... It's makin me wanna spark a cipher.
The release that came off was a total surprise, it was like, 'Gaslamp Killer's got something new? And it's in 320 kps? Yes!", filled to the brim with interesting samplings and patterns. One of the more interesting things released this year.

[notorious UZIMAKI]

is there any doubt that inspectah deck is the most underrated member of the wu, and probably one of the most underrated cats out there

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p22Xzq5RzUc

[notorious UZIMAKI]

damn i love del when he's on point. qbert helps on this track

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvhOm4ZcHf0

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UZI would marry the Wu if it were a woman. I'm 1000% sure of this.

Cool instrumental stuff. I get a kind of dubby/reggae vibe off of it..
http://www.4shared.com/file/125838852/20ae880a/04_Shooting_the_Breeze.html

[notorious UZIMAKI]

UZI would marry the Wu if it were a woman. I'm 1000% sure of this.


lol, classic quote. hehe. that instrumental was chill, like early morning cup of coffee outside on the patio hiphop. love it

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Yeah, it's kind of like that. He's done a few heavier things, but for the most part, Maker's a 'chill' artist.

[anubis609]

is there any doubt that inspectah deck is the most underrated member of the wu, and probably one of the most underrated cats out there


Definitely. The Rebel INS is one of the sickest lyricists in the group. But I love GZA's metaphorical wordplay, "...niggaz act like they got short arms and deep pockets." Wu-Tang is eclectic with the variety of MC's they breed. I mean, ain't there like, what, 50,000 muthafuckaz in the Wu-Tang family? Haha.

I gotta give props to ETK for providin the auricular stimuli. I had to indulge the urge to either cut or spit, so now my hand is startin to cramp from bustin a solo 4 hour scratch session last night. Thanks, goddammit. LOL. For real, good lookin on hookin up links to the beats.

I had to throw on the Pandora Radio on my iPhone and played hip hop instrumentals and the turntablism & beat science categories, hooked it up to the audio on my mixer, and got down on my 1210M5G all night. I loved it.

All that scratchin makin you itch?

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Hahaha. Record this stuff, Anubis. I love good bit of turntablism.

I picked up a few new joints on wax. If any of them are worthwhile, I'll share a few samples.

[anubis609]

Will do ETK. Mind you, I've only been dabbling in cuttin up the vinyl for about half a year. My forte, really, is lyricism, but I've always loved turntablism too. I'm hopin that another session may arise from me n my homie over the weekend which would give me a good chance to record it.

Which reminds me, Uzi, lest you forget good homie, I'm also an MC...should you feel the need to add that to the hip hop professions. It's not a necessity, it's just an ego boost for me. LOL.

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So I've been listening to a lot of latin flavors lately. Why Salsa isn't more integrated into hip-hop.. It's a shame, the two could benefit from each other greatly.

Especially the smooth, dubby Latin blends that seem to be popping up more often. I'll share some of that in a bit.

Also, I kind of want the title 'Beatmaster (and Co-Owner)', something like that.. 'cuz I'm an egotist and I can hook you fellows up with some real tight instrumentals.

On that note: This is one of the better records I picked up..

It's hard to argue with the neck-snapping way a lot of Michigan hip-hop producers approach their soul-based beats, whether it's J. Dilla's mutated street soul, Black Milk's concrete-breaking drums or Ypsilanti native 14KT's stuttering soul step.

"Nowalataz" is yet another fine series of instrumentals to smash in the ride. From the plinking melody of "The Meaning" to the woozy funk of "Slave 2 Dope" and the understated strut of "Without," 14KT packs the proceedings with wailing R&B samples backed by slightly-disjointed drums, channeling Dilla but putting his own stamp on things.

It's tight. I'll be upping a song or two off of it for you guys to sample.

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Stuffs-
Sweet Latin flavor. You could get some serious milage out of the guitars if you sampled them.
http://www.4shared.com/file/126800326/d72b7d97/01Federico_Aubele_-_Luna_y_Sol.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/126800269/223acf35/Ceu-01_Sobre_O_Amor_E_Seu_Trabalho_Silencioso.html

First has lyrics, and is nice. The second is a dope instrumental by 14KT who had a great release last year that I highly recommend, The Golden Hour.
http://www.4shared.com/file/126800292/32700a72/05-busdriver-least_favorite_rapper__feat_nocando_.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/126800306/e51d1f15/10_Slave_2_Dope.html

[notorious UZIMAKI]

agreed w the guitars, mad breezy. also, i may get impeached for this, but i actually am diggin the asher roth disc. good production, cee-lo, and he's not pretending or posturing. good shit. get past the visage.

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Ehhh. Asher Roth bores me. Nothing more, nothing less.

Currently pumping some vintage DJ Shadow.. He needs to put out another classic record soon. His mixes are great, but his albums continue to fall short of Endtroducing.

[notorious UZIMAKI]

um its called ENDTRODUCING haha. one of my favorite albums - you are my brother from another mother.

"Building Steam With a Grain of Salt" what

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um its called ENDTRODUCING haha. one of my favorite albums - you are my brother from another mother.

"Building Steam With a Grain of Salt" what
I have no idea what you could possibly be talking about. :suspicious:

I love "Changeling" the most off of Endtroducing. That keyboard, everything about it.. is smoooooth.

[GodsGift88]

Yo, anyone seen the movie 'Brown Sugar' ?? Older movie, but for some reason the Hip Hop undertone of the movie is amazing !! Mos Def's role in that movie is pretty much a real hip-hop fan. That movie pretty much speaks to the generation now involving that music.

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Yo, anyone seen the movie 'Brown Sugar' ?? Older movie, but for some reason the Hip Hop undertone of the movie is amazing !! Mos Def's role in that movie is pretty much a real hip-hop fan. That movie pretty much speaks to the generation now involving that music.
Nah, haven't seen that. It looked like a rom-drama when it was being promoted.. so not like that?

Also, anything released after 2000 cannot be logically called old as a film.

[GodsGift88]

Um, it is like that ETK. Buuut, the main focus of the movie is Hip-Hop & how it isn't an art like it used to be, but some whack ass business. Mos Def's character fits what I think WE are talking about & feel like as Hip-Hop fans.

But, you are right. Sort of forgot it came out like 2002 I think.

[anubis609]

Aight, I'm in the midst of finally getting to record my solo scratch sessions. Earlier tonight, I pulled a 6 hour sesh and my arms were fuckin crampin like charlie-horsin bitches on their periods. I swear it felt like a boa chokin out a juiced up Ultimate Warrior. They were about to look like petrified gargoyle monkey paws.

Anyway, the reason for the muscle strain was cuz I was cuttin to Dethklok and other metal bands. Genre clashing, if you will. Goddamn guitar shreds feel like I'm trying to match a 120 tempo. I'll include part of it in the recording. It'll have a wide variety of hip hop, and for Uzi, I'm throwin in some Wu for you, buddy. Haha.

On top of the recording, I'll see if I can get my entire track list uploaded onto a file sharing site too.

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Sweet.

[Gruja]

Ok i want in,here is my top 10
1.Eminem
2.Proof
3.2pac
4.DMX
5.50 cent
6.Jay-z
7.Slim Thug
8.Ja-rule
9.Fat Joe
10.Wu-Tang

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Ok i want in,here is my top 10
1.Eminem
2.Proof
3.2pac
4.DMX
5.50 cent
6.Jaz-z
7.Slim Thug
8.Ja-rule
9.Fat Joe
10.Wu-Thang
Wu-Tang Gruja. Wu-Tang.

[GodsGift88]

Aight, I'm in the midst of finally getting to record my solo scratch sessions. Earlier tonight, I pulled a 6 hour sesh and my arms were fuckin crampin like charlie-horsin bitches on their periods. I swear it felt like a boa chokin out a juiced up Ultimate Warrior. They were about to look like petrified gargoyle monkey paws.

Anyway, the reason for the muscle strain was cuz I was cuttin to Dethklok and other metal bands. Genre clashing, if you will. Goddamn guitar shreds feel like I'm trying to match a 120 tempo. I'll include part of it in the recording. It'll have a wide variety of hip hop, and for Uzi, I'm throwin in some Wu for you, buddy. Haha.

On top of the recording, I'll see if I can get my entire track list uploaded onto a file sharing site too.
First off homie: LMAOWAT?! That's what happens when you puttin' in work though. Good shit. And secondly can't wait to hear it. My homeboy actually is a DJ too & I just love the whole idea of intertwining music like that so big ups for that.

^^ Definitely agree with that ETK. O.o


Edit: Anibus, maybe a little Outkast too ?? Could be dope as hell.

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http://i32.tinypic.com/fef4zr.jpg (http://www.4shared.com/file/128055854/3963e3ef/11_Crash.html)
(click the picture for a song to listen to)
Fantastic release. The beats and flows are ridiculously good. Has a placid sense of humor and a good dose of down on the street knowledge. This year's been so good for hip-hop.

[anubis609]

First off homie: LMAOWAT?! That's what happens when you puttin' in work though. Good shit. And secondly can't wait to hear it. My homeboy actually is a DJ too & I just love the whole idea of intertwining music like that so big ups for that.

^^ Definitely agree with that ETK. O.o


Edit: Anibus, maybe a little Outkast too ?? Could be dope as hell.

It's Anubis, but good lookin, chief. Yeah, I'll throw in some Outkast. It's takin a little bit of time cuz I'm tryin to collab with my homie who's got the Serrato on deck. He's got a crazy work schedule.

Anyway, I just realized I never listed my top 10. Late as all hell, but it would be, in no particular order:

1. Eminem
2. Kurupt
3. Wu-Tang
4. 2Pac
5. Biggie
6. Nas
7. Jay-Z
8. Big L
9. Sly Boogy
10. Juice

[GodsGift88]

Ah, shit my fault Anubis. Looked it over way too quick, but my mans who is the DJ got that Serato Scratch lined up as well. But, take ya' time no rush homie. I'm a try & see if he can send me some of his shit 'cause he's RAW. Sly Boogy though !!

Edit: ETK, I got that 'Brand New' Rhymefest vibe. Obviously better but that was a cool ass track.

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Edit: ETK, I got that 'Brand New' Rhymefest vibe. Obviously better but that was a cool ass track.
Record's plain dope. I'vd spun it at least three times today.

Also, another good one I got last night is DJ Spinna's Sonic Smash. High energy, raw sounding hip-hop with some heavy bass in certain parts. I'll up something off of that for y'all to sample when my current downloads are finished.

Edit- Blue Sky, Black Death released an 'Unreleased and Rare' kind of deal. I'll get back to you on that as well. Should be dope, I usually really like BSBD's production.

[notorious UZIMAKI]

ahhhh too much to reply to haha.

first off though - gruja - wu- THANG!!!!!!!! jesus-tap-dancing-christ. i don't know whether to ban you or laugh my ass off. shit is kinda funny though. good list man - i'll add you to the clan. second - anubis - can't wait to hear this, esp w the wu. gheah! i was laughin my ass of after that post, also - rest those gargoyle arms mang. GG and ETK, gotta listen to those peeps, but thanks for keepin this forum hot

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Tell me what you think when you're done listening, alright?

[GodsGift88]

More Colors feat. Elzhi GOES !! That track right there is some real Hip-Hop shit. I agree with you ETK, DJ Spinna did his thing on this album. Overall it's a good ass vibe.

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More Colors feat. Elzhi GOES !! That track right there is some real Hip-Hop shit. I agree with you ETK, DJ Spinna did his thing on this album. Overall it's a good ass vibe.
That track's one of the few political tracks as of late that I think is the real stuff. Glad you dig it GG.

[notorious UZIMAKI]

damn etk, crash - he got the intangible - the head nodin. he's got great flow, word play, metaphors, but most true, his phasic just makes you nod yo head. thats a rare treat. lovin it

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damn etk, crash - he got the intangible - the head nodin. he's got great flow, word play, metaphors, but most true, his phasic just makes you nod yo head. thats a rare treat. lovin it
Alright. Check your PMs for what may or not be a link to the whole album.

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Bringing this back from it's coma.

[GodsGift88]

Drake's - Forever Remix is insane yo ! I know mainstream artists really don't bring it like they used to, but first off Drake is hot. He could be very, very good so hopefully he doesn't succumb to that mainstream *mindset*. Anyways, that track rips shit if you haven't heard it. Heard it like a week ago, but as of late I really tried listening to the concepts they tried to put out there & they all did they thing but I think Em ripped that song to shreds with Drake right behind him, then Kanye's verse & Wayne's verse.

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I'm not big on Lil' Wayne, Nor em as of late, nor Kanye as of late. Hopefully a return to form for them.

Something good I heard:
http://i30.tinypic.com/qrdter.jpg (http://www.4shared.com/file/128791735/44f5792c/02-toki_wright-more_fiya.html)
Click for a sample..

Great production, Toki's got a great flow as always and it's just on form shit. Keeps it really real.

[GodsGift88]

Like I stated before I haven't liked Kanye since his "Graduation" album (everything after that has been mediocre @ best) & Wayne since his hard mixtape days (his new shit has been whaaaack) but they get on the track.

"..And y'all ain't tryna' writin' rhymes, y'all just makin' ringtones...HIP-HOOOP!!" That last verse he was spittin'. Good track ETK, I likes that.

[OminousG]

anybody heard the JayZ/Eminem collabo? Renegade?


It's nice. Jay came correct and Shady hinted back to the old dayz. I was at the least, releaved that it sounded like a real song, versus some A&R orchestrated bullshit.

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anybody heard the JayZ/Eminem collabo? Renegade?


It's nice. Jay came correct and Shady hinted back to the old dayz. I was at the least, releaved that it sounded like a real song, versus some A&R orchestrated bullshit.
Well, technically, back in 2001, Em wasn't bad yet. And The Blueprint, that's a stone cold classic, Jay-Z still was on form back then.

[notorious UZIMAKI]

Well, technically, back in 2001, Em wasn't bad yet. And The Blueprint, that's a stone cold classic, Jay-Z still was on form back then.

true. true. i still spin The Blueprint quite frequently.

Forever remix is dope, but em just kills the others by a wide margin.

i pretty much hate anyone with a last/nickname ending in -eezy at this point, with a couple of exceptions - 'put on' is on my workout mix, love that beat. jeezy actually spits a decent verse, although he's not talking about anything groundbreaking, but he does drop 'north side fishsticks, south side tartarsauce' haha. kanye's verse is solid despite the damn autotune bullshit and his weak ass singing at the end
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0XMpMH7RoY

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true. true. i still spin The Blueprint quite frequently.

Forever remix is dope, but em just kills the others by a wide margin.

i pretty much hate anyone with a last/nickname ending in -eezy at this point, with a couple of exceptions - 'put on' is on my workout mix, love that beat. jeezy actually spits a decent verse, although he's not talking about anything groundbreaking, but he does drop 'north side fishsticks, south side tartarsauce' haha. kanye's verse is solid despite the damn autotune bullshit and his weak ass singing at the end

Yeah, Jay's got three classic records in my opinion..

Reasonable Doubt (One of the few times where Scarface references work, 22 Two's is sick. )
The Blueprint (Where he proved he wasn't just a one album wonder)
Black Album (He should have made it his last, it's a sick record)

The rest have too much filler for my tastes.

[notorious UZIMAKI]

yeah definitely agree about the black album. that disc was solid from alpha to omega. love 'my first song' with the biggie sample at the beginning.

[Momo~Chan]

Can I join?I already joined the social group

[notorious UZIMAKI]

no doubt. just post your 5-10 fav artists/groups. nice ava

[notorious UZIMAKI]

also ETK - diggin that Che album, love People Bowling. overall the production is good, like the horns and jazz influence

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Can I join?I already joined the social group
Co-Owner welcome.

also ETK - diggin that Che album, love People Bowling. overall the production is good, like the horns and jazz influence
Yeah, it's a well rounded album. Great, verbose flow on Che's part, sick production and very little filler tracks.

[wc_loc]

Cool a hip-hop fc.
My faves are Eminem, Ice Cube, Young Buck, Lil Scrappy, Pastor Troy, Mos Def, Dr.Dre, NWA, DMX....heaps more I cant think of.

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Official welcome.

Since you mentioned Mos Def, got any thoughts on his newest, The Estatic?

[notorious UZIMAKI]

welcome loc! nice list, can't believe i left cube off mine - good call

[OminousG]

1. Tupac
2. Scarface
3. Mystikal
4. NWA (solo and group)
5. SwishaHouse, DJ Screw, RonC, & Mike Watts
6. T.I.
7. UGK
8. Lupe Fiasco
9. a lot of 80's legends


damn, I'm leaving off soo many keeping it breif. U mean to tell me I aint joined this muthafucka? Consider it done. Square bidness.

already

~G-Code Samurai

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I was curious about that myself.. anyway, official welcome.

[notorious UZIMAKI]

1. Tupac
2. Scarface
3. Mystikal
4. NWA (solo and group)
5. SwishaHouse, DJ Screw, RonC, & Mike Watts
6. T.I.
7. UGK
8. Lupe Fiasco
9. a lot of 80's legends


damn, I'm leaving off soo many keeping it breif. U mean to tell me I aint joined this muthafucka? Consider it done. Square bidness.

already

~G-Code Samurai

as expected from the G-Code Samurai - list is TIGHT.
you've always been here in spirit - now its official haha

[GodsGift88]

The big homie O.G.'s finally here, welcome my man !

Ah, UGK I see on the list. Good listens right there and you right about just leaving people off. There really are plenty of good hip-hop artists out there that people don't even know about. Right now, the underground or more specifically the lesser known artists are by faaaaar lyrically and consistently bringing it more so than the big names out there. We see flashes of what they used to be in some of their songs, but then revert to ringtone rappers which upsets me just 'cause people used to be so good but now they ain't shit.

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So, I have Blueprint 3 on me. Will listen to it later.

[NewBlackCity]

HFC Fam.., Whats Gud..,

Gud 2 c some HipHop Heads ( No Homo)..lol

Man Just wanna ask has anybody sampled the NEW Cuban Linx 2 album? dam its way better Than Blue Print 3.., ive been bumpin it all day everyday and its not even out yet..,

Raekwon Produced by Dr Dre = Classic.

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Welcome, and no. You got a link for that?

[NewBlackCity]

Jay Z - Blue Print 3
http://rapidshare.com/files/275474254/JZBP3_NBC_09.rar

Raekwon - Only Built for Cuban Linx 2
http://rapidshare.com/files/275474078/RWOB4CL2_09_NBC.rar

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Thank you. I've got the Blueprint 3 on me already, I'll have impressions on both later.

[notorious UZIMAKI]

Jay Z - Blue Print 3
http://rapidshare.com/files/275474254/JZBP3_NBC_09.rar

Raekwon - Only Built for Cuban Linx 2
http://rapidshare.com/files/275474078/RWOB4CL2_09_NBC.rar

I open up the hiphopFC forum and its like F#cking Christmas today! will be listening non-stop for the next 24 hours - bigups!!

[NewBlackCity]

Iam glad ya'l like..,

Jay Z vs Raekwon, its on...

if ur lookin for more dope ass ish peep my blog.

100

http://newblaqcity.blogspot.com/

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Jay Z's newest, like his last few records is predictably mediocre. Raekwon's album is buffered by too much filler (An hour plus runtime.. Yeesh, cut down on the intro pieces) but is otherwise extremely solid work.

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Live dammit, live!
Jay Z's newest, like his last few records is predictably mediocre. Raekwon's album is buffered by too much filler (An hour plus runtime.. Yeesh, cut down on the intro pieces) but is otherwise extremely solid work.
I have to say that 'New Wu' is a fucking banger.

Also, even ten years after it's release.. Things Fall Apart's last track has the ability tear somebody up. Such a sudden change in tone to the sick "Don't See Us".. they follow it up with a track that can make a grown man cry.. I love The Roots.

[notorious UZIMAKI]

dude, things fall apart. please. historical platinum status regardless of sales. seen em twice live. no comparison, rock or rap.

hmmm, too much to say about the bounty.
house of flying daggers gave me goosebumps when meth ripped it. rewind 10 years. still hungry. this album, despite all the hype, is a wu album. the dre tracks are bangers for sure, love the steel drums in catalina. but the samples, the wu-gambino isht. the strings. love it, rza all over the place. agreed should have been about 12 tracks. woulda been close album of the year if that was the case. new wu - ahhhhhh!!!! love it!! and we will rob you - why is slick rick on this? gza KILLS it though. mm, damn. also, inspectah deck is the fuckin flint and dry wood for the wood, he ignites every track he starts off, sickness. ending w kiss the ring haha, love the sample. damn i love the wu. ason jones dope as well. shit if you with the wu, you get about 10 different eulogies haha

[notorious UZIMAKI]

as far as jay's album - you prob say its middling just cuz its jay. compared to the rest, its another gem. but i agree, no blueprint 1. why the fuck is kanye on here at all? autotune. love when he says would give to 'mix-tape weezy' - basically sayin lil wayne's albums are garbage. not a big fan o r+b choruses but damn loved hearin alicia keys in empire state - love that voice. rhianna killed it too. also 'a star is born' first verse is dope, after that pbbt. overall solid but not classic.

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That or insert some of the choice shit that got cut off the album to replace the less savory efforts. Kiss the Ring, New Wu and 10 Bricks are all destined to go down as classic Wu material. Meth fucking kills it on New Wu. Superb chorus.

But yeah, you could cut off shit like Surgical Gloves and a alot of the middle 3rd without losing a thing to the album.

[notorious UZIMAKI]

yeah true. i was amazed at meth's shit (and deck - but ima fanboy). he came hungry like it was his first album. loved that shit - swear i smiled at his verse on track 2. damn. i remember when jayz second album came out and he said he was the best in the game i hated him. (only cuz pac and big were still up). took me til like 2002 to appreciate haha. i had blueprint on repeat for 2 weeks.

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yeah true. i was amazed at meth's shit (and deck - but ima fanboy). he came hungry like it was his first album. loved that shit - swear i smiled at his verse on track 2. damn. i remember when jayz second album came out and he said he was the best in the game i hated him. (only cuz pac and big were still up). took me til like 2002 to appreciate haha. i had blueprint on repeat for 2 weeks.
I've always been a fanboy of Meth.

I hope this bodes well for his next solo venture.

Jay would be the best, if he did less commercial shit and less crossovers. He has two indisputable classics that prove he has the ability to be the best.. it's just he needs to do less commercial shit.

[notorious UZIMAKI]

the clear difference is that even with top notch production - chef's album is just more RAW. lyrics, cuts, etc. w jay you always know it'll be smooth, but just too smooth w the production and guest spots. not to hate, cuz considering jay is a kazillionaire i feel like he actually put in some effort on some of these joints

[notorious UZIMAKI]

listening to 'star is born' kinda pissed he didnt start earlier and keep going, cuz the first verse was dope, the rest is kinda garbage

[notorious UZIMAKI]

I've always been a fanboy of Meth.

I hope this bodes well for his next solo venture.

Jay would be the best, if he did less commercial shit and less crossovers. He has two indisputable classics that prove he has the ability to be the best.. it's just he needs to do less commercial shit.

yeah, he's always been a business man first, despite his asperger like ability to rap.

love meth, but always root for a wu album, whole is always better then the sum of the parts.

whats your fav 5 wu - solo albums? damn, gonna think on that

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the clear difference is that even with top notch production - chef's album is just more RAW. lyrics, cuts, etc. w jay you always know it'll be smooth, but just too smooth w the production and guest spots. not to hate, cuz considering jay is a kazillionaire i feel like he actually put in some effort on some of these joints
That's always been the Wu mantra. Raw, real shit. Jay's always been a smooth player, whereas Wu's always been the dirtier kind of G.

I love smooth, but Jay's smooth production kind of takes away from his harder stuff. He got it perfect on Reasonable Doubt.. smooth beats, smooth flow, but the right amount of swagger, wisdom and real talk to define him as a legendary MC.

Oh, and yeah, I'd have to sit on that question.

[notorious UZIMAKI]

can't help but be dirty w ol dirt dog.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzzD6M5tP1A

love this shit. never heard chef be sentimental. odb musta had crazy charisma.

hear you about j - reasonable doubt was sick. blueprint one was his, well, blueprint - annie sample, doors sample, his new album has some non-sequitor samples that work too. i'm sayin - he's not my fav, but i have mad respect cuz he doesnt rest

[notorious UZIMAKI]

also beanie seigel on rae sounds like gift of gab a lil bit

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Yeah.. I respect Jay's work ethic, but honestly, I'd prefer he spends three years and drops another Reasonable Doubt or another Black Album even instead of three middling records by his standards.

Also, everyone misses ODB. Guy wore his heart on his sleeve. I mean, what other rapper would help save a little girl from a car accident?

[notorious UZIMAKI]

agreed - but also, think about what you just said. those are 2 of the top 50 hiphop albums ever. we all hold boi up to an ideal. same as if big and pac wouldn't have died, there would have been only expectations. fact jay has been this prolific is impressive. don't get me wrong, i trend towards indie-hop, but just givin props for longevity. to your point though - i agree i think i put black album at 1, and blueprint 1 at 2.
listening to 'we will rob you' right now - confirms my wu-love. when gza steps on a track he murders it. but as a solo artist - he gets monotone like guru. but w the wu, he's the head of voltron. sickhouse

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It's debatable how much of Jay's hard work is just for the money though. He's big money in the music world, and he can almost always score a lot of green by dropping a dope single on an otherwise unextraordinary record (And I mean unextraordinary by normal standards) and watch the cash come in. I feel like he does that sometimes..

[notorious UZIMAKI]

yeah, hear that - but at least he gambles abit - like doors sample on blueprint - even death of auto tune has sick strings, and 'young forever' haha - it may not always work, but at least he's not a complete poon

[notorious UZIMAKI]

got damn i hate bitch ass choruses, but damn alicia keys makes me jealous everytime she sings - good grab hova

[notorious UZIMAKI]

rihanna kills it. ah, ah, ah

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Talking to yourself isn't healthy man.


Did you ever check out that Jean Grae CD I mentioned like, 10 pages ago?

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I'm daft
I battle all like I don't have it all
Avant-garde
Battlestar Galactica
Got rhymes per capita
I'm shining through the aperture
But I'm not gonna bust no caps for ya (nah)
That's another genre
I'm the black bomber
Track charmer
Sack burner
Distract burdens
If it ain't that urgent
Nerve prints
Word sentinel invisible infidel interstellar
Hella clever
Endeavors immeasurable
With only heaven to go incredible
Melodramatic wit tales from the tablet
You fail cause you average
Regardless of your sells and your status
You extra baggage
I bamboozle like I'm mobbin' in a Landcruiser
Down MacArthur
Artistic archer
Autistic misfit
You'll get the sickness
When I spit the wickedness
And split cha wig like Kid Icarus
Leave you headless like Icky-bod
I infuriated, tick you off
Stick to Pop
Hip-Hop's too dificult
To me, it's a cult
Lyrics lacerated, slit cha throat
Beat cha brain down like Piscopo with Smith & Colt
I don't know, Different Strokes
So respect me for I whip out ol' Betsy
Surgically remove you from my testes
Purposely improve you just to see who the best be
But sold up sexy
Take a poll and know the prestige
Large lefty
I automate
Animate
My soul sanitation like I gotta canvas painting
Manifestions
(Chorus)
Eh, who's ever hearin' this
Deltron-Z be a lyricist
Frontin' on your fake false appearances
"Press Rewind" (Sadat X sample)
Drive you delirious
Dead serious
The eeriest mic mysterious
Eh peep, who's ever hearin' this
Deltron-Z be a lyricist
Frontin' on your fake false appearances
"Press Rewind" (Sadat X sample)
Drive you delirious
Dead serious
The eeriest mic mysterious
(Scratching)
"Press Rewind" (Sadat X sample)
(Del The Funky Homosapien - 2nd Verse)
Go ahead, try symbiosis
But most rap artist don't have any focus
Think they flippin' chips
Try penny brokers
Kipsco or pennyloafers
Get my album I'll show you how it's done
Del-ateous
Hella atrocious wit vocals
My throat holds verbal choke pose
Po-po's in ya scrolls
My goals are not rifles
I flow scrimmage like the Micronots
You might go pop and I might grow crops
Go get the gestapo
You riskin' a pot full of gold
Pull a zodiac sign to halftime
Reenact rhymes from a past life of a flashlight
Man, you don't know the half
Dash right to the phonograph
Blow your balderdash
Coordinates confirm
Subordinates will learn
My ordnance is stern so supportin' my fern
Is the only way in this lonely age where you goin' crazed
Your style is sold and paid for cause I made more
Water emcees like a bayshore
Bullets graze doors (Where)
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Now miser
Strider
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Rippin' plywood
Forget beef cakin' lyrical cheapskates
Try Del and win the sweepstakes
What I make is so hot, it's seethin'
Off the deep end
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Caught cha sleepin'
Now you're peekin' like you've eaten
A hundred microdots wreck your equinox
Delete every piece of props
Leave your perforated
Curb your hatred
Disserve your matrix in the Word Olympics
Completely furnished wit burners like Ted Turner
I broadcast the classics
fabu-lass, fa-tastic
(Chorus)
Peep, who ever hearin' this
Deltron-Z be a lyricist
Frontin' on your fake false appearances
"Press Rewind" (Sadat X sample)
Drive you delirious
Dead serious
The eeriest mic mysterious
Hey, who ever hearin' this
Deltron-Z be a lyricist
Frontin' on your fake false appearances
"Press Rewind" (Sadat X sample)
Drive you delirious
Dead serious
The eeriest mic mysterious
(Del)
And the survey says
Go practice or something man
You know
Peace
"Press Rewind" (Sadat X Sample)
Ah-hah

[d2sharp]

wow im new to all this FC stuff but lemme join i guess i gotta start someday.
if u still want me to list top ten tell me ill have to think it through propa.
any i got some amvs i made a couple of months ago which you could use.
kinda rushed this one sync messed up when i uploaded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsyJcXHoGz4&feature=channel_page

this one is probs better
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REClkzc4aG4&feature=channel_page

in the process of making better ones

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Welcome to the club.

[notorious UZIMAKI]

aight d2sharp - good to have you - look for some action on this thread over the next week. lots to discuss

[notorious UZIMAKI]

good work 'ere body on the hhfc. already at page 17. gheah!

from cuban linx II - really liking kiss the ring (another dope deck verse, great sample), we will rob you (slick rick worthless on this, but GZA GZA GZA), dre's beat on catalina, and ason jones. (new wu and house of flying daggers dope as well, but already repped these). overall agree with ETK, the album is way to bloated, but damn, there's some (lex) diamonds in there.

[notorious UZIMAKI]

also ETK -- mad respek for rewind - may have to turn this fc over to you soon. may not be able to post as much as deserved. also new love on rae - black mozart. feelin it. this album just grabs me harder than jayz. although - saw vma repeat today w alicia keys and jay - damn, she's def my #1. amazing, sexy, etc

[notorious UZIMAKI]

bow the f down.

o its three thousand thirty
I want y'all to meet Deltron Zero, hero, not no small feat
It's all heat in this day and age
I rage your grave, anything it takes to save the day
Neuromancer, perfect blend of technology and magic
Use my rappin so you all could see the hazards
Plus entertainment where many are brainless
We cultivated the lost art of study and I brought a buddy
Automator harder slayer fascinating combinations
Cyber warlords are activating abominations
Arm a nation with hatred we ain't with that
We high-tech archeologists searching for nicknacks
Composing musical stimpacks that impacts the song
Crack the motor what you think you rappin for?
I used to be a mech soldier but I didn't respect orders
I had to step forward, tell them this ain't for us
Living in a post-apocalyptic world morbid and horrid
The secrets of the past they hoarded
Now we just boarded on a futuristic spacecraft
No mistakes black it's our music we must take back

Yo it's three thousand thirty
I want y'all to meet Deltron Zero, and Automator
Yo it's three thousand thirty
I want y'all to meet Deltron Zero, and Automator
Yo it's three thousand thirty
I want y'all to meet Deltron Zero, and Automator

Del I'm feeling like a ghost in a shell
I wrote this in jail playing host to a cell
For the pure verbal, they said my sentence was equivalent to murder
Kust another hurdle, I bounced through a portal
I knew they had the mindstate of mere mortals
My ears morphed to receptors to catch ya
Every word about gravity control
and the families they hold for handsome ransoms
On the run with a handgun, blast bioforms; I am warned
that a planet-wise manhunt with cannons
will make me, abandon, my foolish plan of uprisin
Fuck dyin, I hijack a mech
Controllin with my magical chance so battle advance
through centuries of hip-hop legacy, megaspeed
Hyperwarp to Automator's crib and light the torch
They can't fight the force
Victory is ours once we strike the source
Enterprisin wise men look to the horizon
Thinkin more capitalism is the wisdom
and imprison, all citizens empowered with rhythm
We keep the funk alive by talking with idioms

Yo it's three thousand thirty
I want y'all to meet Deltron Zero, and Automator
Yo it's three thousand thirty
I want y'all to meet Deltron Zero, and Automator
Yo it's three thousand thirty
I want y'all to meet Deltron Zero, and Automator

Isn't eternal evil concerned with thievery
Medieval prehistoric rhetoric well we ahead of that
Lay it down with soundwaves that pound pavement
Original minstrals my central processing unit
is in tune with my heart for this art
Not artificial cause that makes it hard to miss you
Copycats finish last in the human race
Staying glued to safes too prude to take a buddha break
We got espers that let us bless with fresh shit
Undetected by yes men questing for five fleeting nanoseconds of fame
Protecting the brain from conspiracies against my cosmos
While I float to Neo-Tokyo with Opio
or discuss combusitible rust clusters with Plus
Evade cyber police in a computer crib confuse the kids
but I can make a kickin rhymes thats sacred
Telepathic mind that takes its greatness from the Matrix
Esper rhyme professor rushes in ultra pressures
with correction measures
Why half the world's a desert
Cannibals eat human brains for dessert
Buried under deap dirt, mobility innert
I insert these codes for the cataclysm
Ever since I had the vision use my magnetism
In this modern metropolis they tries to lock us up
Under preposterous laws thats not for us

Yo it's three thousand thirty
I want y'all to meet Deltron Zero, and Automator
Yo it's three thousand thirty
I want y'all to meet Deltron Zero, and Automator
Yo it's three thousand thirty
I want y'all to meet Deltron Zero, and Automator

[notorious UZIMAKI]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V9l-JZsdyc

young buck and rza spittin sickness.

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I've been revisiting a lot of Trip-hop lately. Fuuuck, Massive Attack, Wagon Christ, DJ Shadow.. DJ Cam.. Portishead. Those guys had the cool vibes down.

[OminousG]

ey I'm making another "ride" playlist from scratch to go on my blackberry. I got about 1.5gigs I'm dedicating on my 8gig microSD to work wit so, I'm looking for at least 100+songs of the G'est quality to match my 300 already in the mix...



I figure i take it to the streets (so to say). PM me some song suggestions/links if u got any.

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ey I'm making another "ride" playlist from scratch to go on my blackberry. I got about 1.5gigs I'm dedicating on my 8gig microSD to work wit so, I'm looking for at least 100+songs of the G'est quality to match my 300 already in the mix...



I figure i take it to the streets (so to say). PM me some song suggestions/links if u got any.
Any chance you could show what you already got on the playlist? I'd feel a lot more comfortable sending suggestions if I knew what was on it already.

[Ichigoat]

1. Blue Scholars
2. Biggie
3. Jay-Z
4. Vakill
5. Atmosphere
6. Wu-Tang Clan
7. Kid Cudi
8. Madvillain
9. Lupe Fiasco
10. Slaughterhouse

That's just what I've been bumping a lot lately, there's just SOOOOOOOOO many more that could go on my list.

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Welcome to the club. Blue Scholars are cool, off and on stage.

[Ichigoat]

Thanks. ;P
and yeah, by far my favorite rap group out right now.

[notorious UZIMAKI]

finally got the actual cuban linx 2 disc as opposed to the bootleg. didnt realize j-dilla produced house of flying daggers, ason jones - some of my favorite tracks. RIP homie.

also ETK - i hear that, dj shadow and portishead are dope. i love endtroducing. required listening for the FC. also been feelin some 'handsome boy modeling school' - prince paul (de la soul) and automator mixin shit up

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So... How's Your Girl is a dope record, White People less so, but that's got a few gems on it.

[notorious UZIMAKI]

yeah mang, de la soul, gift of gab, del, cat power , jack johnson all show up on white people. but agree how's your girl is tight.

fav redman album - muddy waters. severely underrated.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtHuposOvkE

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Man, seems like J-Dilla brought out the best in other artists.. even after his death.

Busta Rhymes and Mick Goodie - Dillagence mixtape (http://www.datpiff.com/Busta-Rhymes-J-Dilla-Dillagence-mid8707.html)

[notorious UZIMAKI]

yea. no doubt about j-dilla. listening to blue scholars now. lovin it. hanging out with some youngins today - 22-24 year olds at a friends bday. man, hiphop convo was hella weak. outside lil wayne, jay, and name dropped one or two pop songs from black eyed peas and shit these kids were clueless. one cat was all impressed with himself for remembering outkast's 'old school' album stankonia. bitch please. just made me realize hiphop is pop music. been around 20+ years, like any genre has been exploited, mass marketed, diluted. there's a select few in popular rotation who have skill, jay, eminem. but most is auto-tune, cookie cutter imitation bullshit. like any respectable genre, the best is underground, indie rock style. the heads are still going strong. and great hiphop is alive and well. as witnessed by these forums.

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yea. no doubt about j-dilla. listening to blue scholars now. lovin it. hanging out with some youngins today - 22-24 year olds at a friends bday. man, hiphop convo was hella weak. outside lil wayne, jay, and name dropped one or two pop songs from black eyed peas and shit these kids were clueless. one cat was all impressed with himself for remembering outkast's 'old school' album stankonia. bitch please. just made me realize hiphop is pop music. been around 20+ years, like any genre has been exploited, mass marketed, diluted. there's a select few in popular rotation who have skill, jay, eminem. but most is auto-tune, cookie cutter imitation bullshit. like any respectable genre, the best is underground, indie rock style. the heads are still going strong. and great hiphop is alive and well. as witnessed by these forums.
I've been rotating Detroit hip-hop heavily lately, Black Milk, Slum Village.. Phat Kat, 14KT, Dilla.. that's one strong hip-hop scene.

What, Stankonia is old school? Fuck that. You want to go old school with Outkast, you go to Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik and ATLiens. Everything after that is still relatively recent music.

Something about the song sampled on Dilla's 'Lightworks' off of Donuts strikes me as really, really sad. I like the range of emotion on display on that album. It's a fitting last album, Donuts.

[micsquared]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x3W5ssb2q8

Check this cat. He's from my city; San Diego. Gotta support local music, especially when they can spit like this guy.

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So with that I can assume you're joining?

Never heard of this guy, although he's pretty talented. Does he have just an EP out or something?

[micsquared]

Of course I am. I've been dying to find a place to talk about Hip-Hop.

Well, he released some mixtape/demo shit years ago that are damn near impossible find besides the occasional track on Youtube. Last year, he collab'd with The Messangers and released his Incoming Message LP. If I can find it, I'll hook you guys up.

[notorious UZIMAKI]

ETK - i put stankonia in quotes for a reason. lol. southernplayalistic is a first album gem. dilla was magic. nuf said.

damn will have to peep that micsquared. specially since i'm in diego too, and thought our music scene was garbage.

[notorious UZIMAKI]

also fucking kick ass ava. saw roots crew at lollapalooza last year and they killed it. full band, tuba, 12 minute funk jam to end it. sick

[micsquared]

ETK - i put stankonia in quotes for a reason. lol. southernplayalistic is a first album gem. dilla was magic. nuf said.

damn will have to peep that micsquared. specially since i'm in diego too, and thought our music scene was garbage.

also fucking kick ass ava. saw roots crew at lollapalooza last year and they killed it. full band, tuba, 12 minute funk jam to end it. sick

I'm telling you, man, there's some cats out there that are worth the search. Diego is much more than Mitchy Slick and Strong Arm Steady after you start digging.

Yeah? I've been dying to see The Roots live.

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Of course I am. I've been dying to find a place to talk about Hip-Hop.

Well, he released some mixtape/demo shit years ago that are damn near impossible find besides the occasional track on Youtube. Last year, he collab'd with The Messangers and released his Incoming Message LP. If I can find it, I'll hook you guys up.
This is a good place to do that. Any favorites (The Roots I'd assume would be one)?

Collabs and guest spots are a good place to start for a new MC, although I'd hope he doesn't become one of those MCs that only seems to pop up on other people's records.

[micsquared]

This is a good place to do that. Any favorites (The Roots I'd assume would be one)?

Collabs and guest spots are a good place to start for a new MC, although I'd hope he doesn't become one of those MCs that only seems to pop up on other people's records.

That perfect mix of soulful, eccentric, and intelligent, really. Of course, there's the classics like Boogie Down Productions, KRS, Nas, Biggie, Pac, Pun, etc. As far as more contemporary artists, I've been listening to a lot of Atmosphere and MF Doom lately. It'd be incredibly difficult for me to compile an entire list of my favorites.

What about you?

[notorious UZIMAKI]

ah shit, that reminds me, i left the roots outta my original top 10. shiat. things fall apart was one of my top 5 albums ever

[micsquared]

So, I just read the first post. I'll go ahead and list ten.

1. J Dilla
2. Nas.
3. MF Doom
4. Notorious B.I.G.
5. Outkast
6. The Roots
7. Public Enemy
8. The Pharcyde
9. Black Star
10. Boogie Down Productions

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That perfect mix of soulful, eccentric, and intelligent, really. Of course, there's the classics like Boogie Down Productions, KRS, Nas, Biggie, Pac, Pun, etc. As far as more contemporary artists, I've been listening to a lot of Atmosphere and MF Doom lately. It'd be incredibly difficult for me to compile an entire list of my favorites.

What about you?

Hrm. I tend to favor Instrumental, East-coast and southern hip-hop in general, although specifically, OutKast, Cee-Lo, Mojoe.. Tribe, Roots, J-Dilla, Gang Starr.. DJ Cam, DJ Shadow, Madlib, Wagon Christ.

All kinds of stuff, I can't name everybody I want to name off hand.

[notorious UZIMAKI]

alright, i suppose we'll accept you. lol. good ass list. glad you repped the pharcyde. damn blackstar needs to reform like voltron.

[micsquared]

Hrm. I tend to favor Instrumental, East-coast and southern hip-hop in general, although specifically, OutKast, Cee-Lo, Mojoe.. Tribe, Roots, J-Dilla, Gang Starr.. DJ Cam, DJ Shadow, Madlib, Wagon Christ.

All kinds of stuff, I can't name everybody I want to name off hand.

I just finished collecting the Outkast discography this morning. It really rekindled my love for that duo. They've got to have more chemistry than any other musical duo I've ever heard.

As far as Southern Hip-Hop goes, it has to be really special for me to get into it. I definitely like Outkast, Goodie Mob, and Cee-Lo's solo work.

alright, i suppose we'll accept you. lol. good ass list. glad you repped the pharcyde. damn blackstar needs to reform like voltron.

Pharcyde is ridiculously underrated. With all of the Dilla productions and an unstoppable flow, those cats have always been some of my favorites.

[notorious UZIMAKI]

cee lo green is a soul machine. outkast is strangely underrated in the annals of hiphop. southernplayalistic, atliens, aquemini - i broke cd players spinning those three. art of storytellin part i and ii. all my boys started hating on outkast when atliens came out - didnt like the sound, turned off by elevators. couldnt see the genius of wheelz of steel. aquemini may be my favorite. chonky fire, storytellin, rosa parks, as dylon on chapelle show says - they spit hot fire.

[micsquared]

Stankonia will always be my favorite Outkast album. I'll never downplay Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik or ATLiens, as fucking brilliant as those two were either. I have yet to listen all the way through Aquemini. I need to make a project of that.

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Pharcycle's first album overshadows everything else they did unfairly. Sure, it's a great record, but it's not the only great record they put out by any means.


Aquemini has been my favorite hip-hop record of all time forever.. it was the first real hip-hop album I bought as well.

What did you think of MF Doom's latest Micsquared? I was really disappointed by it myself, but I haven't heard much about it from other fans.

[micsquared]

Pharcycle's first album overshadows everything else they did unfairly. Sure, it's a great record, but it's not the only great record they put out by any means.


Aquemini has been my favorite hip-hop record of all time forever.. it was the first real hip-hop album I bought as well.

What did you think of MF Doom's latest Micsquared? I was really disappointed by it myself, but I haven't heard much about it from other fans.

I don't know about that. As great as Bizarre Ride was (especially for a premiere album), Labcabincalifornia is definitely their definitive release.

Born Like This? I didn't like it. The only facet of it that I really enjoyed was how gritty his voice is starting to sound now that he's hit middle age. But, his flow is starting to wind down and he's definitely not as clever as he was on Operation Doomsday or even MM..FOOD.

What'd you think of his King Geedorah project? Personally, it's one of my favorites from him.

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I don't know about that. As great as Bizarre Ride was (especially for a premiere album), Labcabincalifornia is definitely their definitive release.
To most, Bizarre Ride is the only Pharcycle release. At least the one that gets brought up most often when discussing them with others.

Born Like This? I didn't like it. The only facet of it that I really enjoyed was how gritty his voice is starting to sound now that he's hit middle age. But, his flow is starting to wind down and he's definitely not as clever as he was on Operation Doomsday or even MM..FOOD.

What'd you think of his King Geedorah project? Personally, it's one of my favorites from him.
Agree fully on Born Like This.. even the cover was lacking.

It's up there with his Vaudeville Villain project and Operation:Doomsday.. although my favorite piece of work involving Doom would be KMD's Black Bastards. Sub-Roc and Doom were a great duo. Shame about his death.. and even more shameful that it took nearly 8 years to get the album officially released.. the wear and tear shows up on the recording, although it gives it some charm.

[micsquared]

To most, Bizarre Ride is the only Pharcycle release. At least the one that gets brought up most often when discussing them with others.

Well, I'll give you that. Debut albums always tend to personify an artist's persona most thoroughly, and that can be said of Bizarre Ride.


Agree fully on Born Like This.. even the cover was lacking.

It's up there with his Vaudeville Villain project and Operation:Doomsday.. although my favorite piece of work involving Doom would be KMD's Black Bastards. Sub-Roc and Doom were a great duo. Shame about his death.. and even more shameful that it took nearly 8 years to get the album officially released.. the wear and tear shows up on the recording, although it gives it some charm.

KMD is still one of my all time favorite Hip-Hop groups. The tragedy story that is MF Doom is actually rather saddening. His brother, who was also his best friend really, gets killed and he just goes missing for years. Next thing you know, a masked villain is terrorizing the scene with a rather familiar flow. Doom has got to have one of the best rap personas I've ever encountered.

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True. Although, with or without the death of his brother, Doom's career as an MC is promising when you speculate the what-ifs and such.


Okay, it's late. I'll check back here tomorrow. Hope this level of activity can become more consistent.

[OminousG]

ey, anybody heard Katt Williams debut rap lp? Its a lil awkward, cuz he mixes up a lot of styles of music. But, all around it grew on me.


My jams in order of heat:
Thats what Girls are made for (feat MC Lyte)
Mind Right (feat Snoop & Lil Wayne)
Changes (feat Lyfe)
Kill Urself (dedicated to haters... feat Nelly)

the 1st 3 are real, thats what makes em hot IMO. The last one is just a good jam to ride out to at the club.

[micsquared]

A Katt Williams LP? I dunno, man, ever since I heard Sweat Your Perm Out, I don't think I can get with Katt being on a track.

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ey, anybody heard Katt Williams debut rap lp? Its a lil awkward, cuz he mixes up a lot of styles of music. But, all around it grew on me.


My jams in order of heat:
Thats what Girls are made for (feat MC Lyte)
Mind Right (feat Snoop & Lil Wayne)
Changes (feat Lyfe)
Kill Urself (dedicated to haters... feat Nelly)

the 1st 3 are real, thats what makes em hot IMO. The last one is just a good jam to ride out to at the club.
Lil Wayne and Nelly are highlights? I think I'll sit that one out.

[OminousG]

lol... i promise the 1st 3 wont leave a bad taste in your mouth... they're decent.

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lol... i promise the 1st 3 wont leave a bad taste in your mouth... they're decent.
You clearly don't know how much I hate Lil' Wayne. Nelly just always seemed like a pop rapper to me.

If you got a link, I'll listen, otherwise this one is a pass for me.

[micsquared]

There's one Lil Wayne track I can get with.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fozA53bOUJI

[OminousG]

i'll admit weezy sound like he got a mouth full of grits.


nelly is pop... its that niche he pushed since Country Grammar. Come to think of it, its always been his style so I can respect him for it... weezy on the other hand :suspicious:



What Girls Are Made For
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA6_DHKKbywMind Right
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbRb1aAGlok
Changes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgTfaT9XrQQ

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Annoying beat, okay flow on that song.

[OminousG]

Annoying beat, okay flow on that song.which?

I didnt like wayne even in his cash money "in juvey's shadow" days... it wasnt until the very beginning of the "i think i'm the savior of hiphop" mode that he flew on my radar.


..breif and short lived... however, now he really needs to go see a speech pathologist.

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which?

I didnt like wayne even in his cash money "in juvey's shadow" days... it wasnt until the very beginning of the "i think i'm the savior of hiphop" mode that he flew on my radar.


..breif and short lived... however, now he really needs to go see a speech pathologist.
Tha Block is Hot is what I'm referencing. His 'Imma savior of hip-hop' phase bothered me the most because I disliked him so much by that phase of his career.. it was one of those "Well fuck you and your little dog" moments.

[micsquared]

On a more talented note..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm61weFrK4c

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I'm so sick of Jay-Z putting out mediocre albums that have one or two absolute bangers on them... so I can try and forget the man. Christ, guy's more business man by the record. Although if he keeps up his pattern, we could have one or two more great records by him sometime next decade. :/

[OminousG]

^^damn, only come correct in this FC!



ey, as much as i follow my boy Face, why am I the last to know Emeritus was the retirement LP????:worried:

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^^damn, only come correct in this FC!
Think about it, first record: Fucking classic.. next 6 years, not much to speak of in terms of quality.. 7 years later he drops The Blueprint, also a classic.. 2 years later we get The Black Album, Jigga seems to be on a roll... he suddenly decides to retire.. 2006, he comes back with some weak shit on Kingdom Come, 2007 he drops American Gangster, okay record. A few really hot joints on it, some interesting failure, next we get Blueprint 3, a few hot joints, a lot of mediocre tracks. With 11 studio LPs under his belt, he's only made three records and a handful of singles that serve his reputation as one of rap's most talented. Jay-Z needs to put out more consistent quality shit and stop bragging, we know he's got the talent, we just watch him squander it time and time again. Fuckin' disappointing man.

[micsquared]

Shit, we all know Blueprint 3 was far from satisfying after looking at Hova's career, but it's definitely a better record than most other mainstream albums that came out this year. Shit, it's even up there on the underground spectrum. It wasn't near as good as I thought it would be, but the tracks that were hot, were HOT.

Plus, he's transcended an emcee at this point.

"I'm not a businessman/
I'm a business, man/"

He's pretty much passed up Russell Simmons as the czar of Hip-Hop at this point. Plus, not only is he universally influential on the financial spectrum, but he starts a revolution with every record he puts out. I mean, look at it. He was one of the rappers in the 90s to jump on the glammed-out, jersey-wearing, million dollar video bullshit and he completely revolutionized it alongside a few others. But, after seeing the glam get out of hand, he calls it to a cease with one single. That shit is incredible to me.

Edit: SUDDENLY, GRAMMATICAL ERRORS, THOUSANDS OF THEM.

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Here's the thing about that though, there's a limit to how much you can respect someone for his position. Jay's passed the limit for me. I respect his success, I don't feel any real need to respect him as an artist at this point though.

[micsquared]

The guy's got talent, so I'll always respect him. It's just like every time Kanye acts a fool, I just go bump College Dropout and remember his talent.

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The guy's got talent, so I'll always respect him. It's just like every time Kanye acts a fool, I just go bump College Dropout and remember his talent.
You mean every time Kanye goes to an awards show? :P

He did have the talent, and flashes of it present themselves every now and then, I just have trouble looking at Jay-Z's body of work as a whole and saying "Yep, great artist".

[micsquared]

Well, you can't say it's gone. The talent is still there, but he just knows how to play the game now. Same for Jay-Z. There's a reason Drake is featured on BP3.

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Well, you can't say it's gone. The talent is still there, but he just knows how to play the game now. Same for Jay-Z. There's a reason Drake is featured on BP3.
Eh, more or less true. I just want a little more honesty and integrity from my hip-hop. I don't feel like it's there with Jay now. He knows how to play the game too well, there's no hunger in his music. He's got nothing to prove to anyone anymore. I guess that's why I've never been too fond of mainstream G-Funk come to think of it.

[micsquared]

That I agree with completely. As much as I can get into a dope song just for the sake of dopeness, all of my favorite songs had so much more to them. Maybe that's why Kanye deteriorated so badly.

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Aye, speaking of which, Dollabin's 'Motion' (http://www.4shared.com/file/138430457/46d50c2b/09_Motion.html) remains my favorite jam of the year. And both of their releases are legally free. (http://dollabin.com/)

[OminousG]

good looking out fam...


consider them coppeded

[micsquared]

Man.

I never realized the importance of having the Doom discography. Totally worth the two day torrent.

[+ink]

The doom discography is one of the biggest discographies I've obtained, and I own physical copies of about half his stuff. It takes up a fair amount of space.

[HipHopShinigami]

Joinage pls???


Current Top 10 FAVS

Nas
Eminem
J.Cole
Lupe Fiasco
Joe Budden
Royce Da 5'9''
Little Brother
BLU
Nujabes
Jay-Z

Top 5 HIP HOP Albums of 09

1.)The Ecstatic
2.)J.Cole - The Warm UP
3.)Eminem - Relaspe
4.)KId Cudi - Man on The Moon
5.)Joe Budden - Escape Route

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You're in. Although I find Relapse to be godawful to the point where I couldn't listen to the whole thing in one sitting.

[HipHopShinigami]

Thats how I felt about Encore but there was some really dope shit on Relaspe and Em was trying to go in lyrically on this (3am, hello, stay wide awake, deja vu, same song same dance, underground)...then the bonus cuts were really dope as well (My Darling and Careful What You Wish For).....the production was pretty solid as well...a lot of people weren't liking the content but I felt this album payed homage to his old slim shady style just wit a bit more shock value...

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Thats how I felt about Encore but there was some really dope shit on Relaspe and Em was trying to go in lyrically on this (3am, hello, stay wide awake, deja vu, same song same dance, underground)...then the bonus cuts were really dope as well (My Darling and Careful What You Wish For).....the production was pretty solid as well...a lot of people weren't liking the content but I felt this album payed homage to his old slim shady style just wit a bit more shock value...
The only one I give a shit about is the Marshall Mathers LP, so I'm inclined to dislike Eminem discs to begin with.

One thing that I'm inclined to ask is: Do you think Nas has put out a great LP lately? I mean Illmatic, Street's Disciple.. God's Son are all top-notch LPs, but nothing since has really left an impression on me. Feels like he's going through the motions.

[HipHopShinigami]

The only one I give a shit about is the Marshall Mathers LP, so I'm inclined to dislike Eminem discs to begin with.

One thing that I'm inclined to ask is: Do you think Nas has put out a great LP lately? I mean Illmatic, Street's Disciple.. God's Son are all top-notch LPs, but nothing since has really left an impression on me. Feels like he's going through the motions.

Personally I rate SSLP and TES over MMLP both better lyrically....


As far as Nas goes, I thought he fell off with Streets Disciple, weak production and too much filler...HHID and Untitled were both great albums. 4/5 I would rate both maybe a 4.5/5 for Untitled...Nas came in lyrically and the production on both are better than SD...Lyrically Nas has been on his shit for the past 2 albums....

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Street's Disciple was the first Nas CD I bought, so I have some fondness for it, that aside..

HHID and Untitled were both great albums.
HHID is by it's name alone, arrogant. The contents within make me want to tear my hair out. I hate that statement, "Hip-Hop is Dead", "Film is dead", etc. You can apply it to a lot of things that are in fact breathing, vital and alive under one's nose. As a longtime follower of underground hip-hop, I find Nas' attitude towards the state of hip-hop arrogant and just a bit uninformed. The mainstream has never been a ground where genres of music flourish and when they do, it's usually to do with the mood of their era. I disliked the disc because I found Nas' statements lacking and his ego entirely too large.

Untitled was a definite step-up, although I wish he had the balls to keep it's original name 'Nigger', when I first heard that he was giving his new LP that name I was honestly excited to hear about it, it was a ballsy move to say the least, then it went away. Honestly, I think it might be his worst album. It's bogged down by self-martyrdom (Prime example from "Hero": "Try telling Bob Dylan, Bruce, and Billy Joel they can't sing what's in they soul/ So Untitled it is/ I never changed nothing.") and what frustrates me most are the hints of where a great album was but was left behind.

[HipHopShinigami]

Street's Disciple was the first Nas CD I bought, so I have some fondness for it, that aside..

HHID is by it's name alone, arrogant. The contents within make me want to tear my hair out. I hate that statement, "Hip-Hop is Dead", "Film is dead", etc. You can apply it to a lot of things that are in fact breathing, vital and alive under one's nose. As a longtime follower of underground hip-hop, I find Nas' attitude towards the state of hip-hop arrogant and just a bit uninformed. The mainstream has never been a ground where genres of music flourish and when they do, it's usually to do with the mood of their era. I disliked the disc because I found Nas' statements lacking and his ego entirely too large.

Untitled was a definite step-up, although I wish he had the balls to keep it's original name 'Nigger', when I first heard that he was giving his new LP that name I was honestly excited to hear about it, it was a ballsy move to say the least, then it went away. Honestly, I think it might be his worst album. It's bogged down by self-martyrdom (Prime example from "Hero": "Try telling Bob Dylan, Bruce, and Billy Joel they can't sing what's in they soul/ So Untitled it is/ I never changed nothing.") and what frustrates me most are the hints of where a great album was but was left behind.

You really think the white guys that run Def Jam would let Nas call his album "nigger"...I think the third verse addressed why he HAD to change the name...It was either change the name or it will never see the light of day...the album was filled with great content.....SLY FOX, America, Can't Stop Us Now,Testify. Yall My NIggas...there were some tracks on the NIgger Tape (mixtape) that was left out (Cops Keep Firing, Be a Nigger Too, What It Is) that shouldve made the album...its all opinions but I still consider "untitled" a great piece of work...especially from a mainstream artist...

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You really think the white guys that run Def Jam would let Nas call his album "nigger"...I think the third verse addressed why he HAD to change the name...It was either change the name or it will never see the light of day...the album was filled with great content.....SLY FOX, America, Can't Stop Us Now,Testify. Yall My NIggas...there were some tracks on the NIgger Tape (mixtape) that was left out (Cops Keep Firing, Be a Nigger Too, What It Is) that shouldve made the album...its all opinions but I still consider "untitled" a great piece of work...especially from a mainstream artist...
The marketing people should have considered what it could do if he kept the name. Controversy is money in the music world. Shame it's so nary capitalized on.

And it was mostly Wal-Mart, which also censored the title of Zack and Miri make a porno to Zack and Miri. Etc, etc.

It is just opinion, but generally, I don't like compromise in my hip-hop. Look at KMD's Black Bastards, that album was held up for near a decade because KMD didn't compromise (And it was only the cover the record execs had a problem with) and Doom (Sub-Roc died in a car accident sadly) stuck to his guns and released it with the album-art as intended. I can respect that.

This segment of pitchfork's review of the album pretty much is why I dislike it.

The most frustrating thing is that this could have been a solid record. But now, how is Nas going to come off like he intended Untitled to be an unflinching look at race relations and yet somehow leave off the track he did with stic.man? Worse still, the righteous message of "Association" (strength through interaction with those who inspire you) is forsaken for the stilted, spoken-word ramblings of "Testify", in which Nas accuses white downloaders of being unwilling to "ride" with him for whatever reason. And what about the hallucinogenic "Esco Let's Go", where he fantasized about "[writing] hood movies like Posse and Five Heartbeats" while summoning Elizabeth Taylor for career advice? Instead, we get an elderly German rhyming "knotty head" with "Nazi sled" ("America"), "Breathe" and its boring consumption rhymes ("First I cop/ Then I yacht"-- do go on!), and the gutless "Make the World Go Round" in which Nas, Chris Brown, and Cool & Dre top even Fat Joe in terms of trend-hopping insincerity, toasting to ballers, gangstas, hustlas, and the very same ringtone rappers he was willing to throw under the bus just two years ago when it was convenient for his public image.

On Untitled you get to decide whether you prefer Nas thoroughly exploring half-assed concepts or half-assedly exploring thorough concepts. Note the distinction: Either he's missing obvious targets or hitting ones not worth aiming at. Peep "Sly Fox", a concerted attempt to be the "She Watch Channel Zero?!" for conservative news zombies, right down to its steady guitar chug. The main difference is that "Channel Zero" risked alienation by confronting its target head on, whereas when it comes to preaching to the choir and picking easy fights, Nas has no problem being the Morgan Spurlock of this rap shit. Speaking of rhymin' for the sake of riddlin'-- "The Fox has a Bushy tail/ And Bush tells lies and Fox trots, so I don't know what's real." Which essentially means nothing.

More successful is the Busta Rhymes-featuring "Fried Chicken", which might actually be the record's strongest cut, but it doesn't take the expected route of cultural subtext, instead working the blues trope of female/food personification. But immediately after, you get the perspective piece "Project Roach", and in case Nas' verses somehow went over your head, a Last Poet intones, "Niggas is like roaches/ We're never gonna go away." Just because you understand him, it don't mean that he's nice, and just to make sure you're even more confused once the record finally ends, he precedes the suspiciously fence-sitting Obama song ("Black President") with "We're Not Alone", a cashed-bowl musing on extraterrestrial life.

As anyone who has followed Nas in the past decade knows, you're not here for the beats. Though he's never been hesitant to enlist the trendiest producers, they're rarely inspired to step up their game; here, it's obvious what the difference is between second-rate Timbaland tracks and something from the new line of pop-savvy super-producers. Particularly in the first half, Untitled is turned into Vice City, where each hired gun coats their tracks with ugly layers of polyester drums, fluorescent synths, and aimless violence. You can distinctly hear Polow Da Don buying into his own hype on "Hero", ignoring Nas as a lead instrument and bombing out the mix with pinwheeling keyboard arpeggios and obtrusive unison bends. On previous listens, "N.I.G.G.E.R. (The Slave and the Master)" sounded like the record's centerpiece and DJ Toomp's honest approximation of the fat cat lounginess of American Gangster. But check its tinny string section and punchless snares back-to-back with "Say Hello", and Toomp's trying to make it rain with nickels.

Though many view Illmatic as the gold standard for hip-hop albums, it's abundantly clear that Nas is better off doing anything but trying to recreate it. His best work of the past decade ironically goes against the very concept of traditional album-making (The Lost Tapes, The Nigger Tape). When caught up in the increasingly antiquated promotional cycle, Nas is more likely to rely on ugly manipulation of people who tend to care way more about his work than he apparently does, and accomplish the exact opposite of what he presumptively set out for-- see how Stillmatic took advantage of those who needed to believe that it had equal footing with The Blueprint (illustrated by The Source's hilariously opportunistic 5-mic rating). See how Hip-Hop Is Dead took advantage of people willing to believe that Nas had anything trenchant to say about a game that increasingly sounded like it didn't need him anymore. Thanks to about a half-hour's worth of music made nearly 15 years ago, Nas will never lack a following, and the press battles surrounding Untitled will keep his name hot enough so we can do the same thing all over again in 2010, when he announces the release of his new album, McCain Killa.

[notorious UZIMAKI]

welcome HipHopShinigami! good list mang. i kinda left nas at illmatic, so i'll always have good memories. some of his recent shit he just comes off bitter. if you want to hear a group that ages well listen to de la soul's last few albums. they are aging like a fine wine.

[dark shadow]

Typically i dislike most of the mainstream hip-hop, which i feel has been reduced to an auto-tuned hook with a weak flow in the verse and a repetitive beat that tries too hard, in my opinion, to feel "epic."

However, I have been enjoying T.I's album "Paper Trail," namely the song "Dead and Gone." While I understand it may be hypocritical to criticize music for auto-tune than turn around and enjoy a song featuring Justin Timberlake, I like the story told by the song, and the unusually positive outlook provided.

Some other artists I like are, in no order:

Lupe Fiasco
Tech N9ne
Sadistik
GZA
Immortal Technique(Not the best flow or material, but has some gems lyrically)
Skatterman(iffy)
Atmosphere
Sage Francis

As for oldies:
Biggie Smalls
2Pac
Nas(I agree, he started going downhill after Illmatic)
Scarface
Del TFH

oh and i guess i'd like to join

[notorious UZIMAKI]

no worries dark shadow, the point of this forum is to celebrate ALL hiphop. no haters. personally i love ti's paper trail, there's 4-5 songs that i can listen to over and over. also immortal technique is ill as shit. revolutionary vol 1 was classic - pt of no return, harlem streets. if you like him check out jedi mind tricks and RA the ruggedman. welcome

[notorious UZIMAKI]

"she take a bone like a ribeye steak from ruth chris"
ah ghostface, you champion of women's rights. hahahaha

[fractal]

closed as ETK has opened a new one...