Dexter

[OaktreeF001]

I've just started watching the Showtime series Dexter and I was a little concerned because my wife thinks that "there should be more people like Dexter". I was wondering what other people thought about this and if they too wished that there were other people like Dexter?

[Houzukimaru]

Did you start from season 1 or did you just start watching from where it is?

Dexter is an incredible show and I would highly recommend watching it from the beginning, Comcast has every episode from the beginning On Demand, not sure about other cable providers though


To answer your question I have absolutley no problem with what Dexter does, if I know somebody like that in real life and knew what they did I wouldn't turn them in, majority of people he kills are people that should have gotten the death penalty anyway but got off due to a very imperfect justice system or just never got caught

[aKiBa55]

I started watching Dexter recently as well. About your question... there may be a small issue there but as long as she doesn't start killing things you should be fine. I need to get that second disk from my uncle...

[frack]

Wrong place. Post in the theater forum.

[[-Shirion-]]

I haven't been following this season, I really haven't had the time.

Dexter is just like a superhero, he just takes it to the next level.

[CakeSpoon]

I freaking love Dexter(the Show), the only "bad" thing about it is I notice a lot of similarities between Dexter(the character) & myself. Which is amusing & somewhat worrying at the same time.

[Tank]

Dexter is currently my favorite show. It's great. I don't feel like he's doing anything bad. Every person he's ever killed was a murderer except for one, and that person was a pedophile who was stalking his step-daughter, so even then I can support what he does.

Anybody caught up to date with what's happening right now? I don't want to spoil anything for those just getting into the series.

I'm calling it right now: Anton is the one who killed Lundy and shot Deb, not Trinity.

[airyie]

I love the show, but I don't have time to watch it!

[CakeSpoon]

They are pretty lazy with it in Australia, so far they are still showing season 3. So I haven't reall been watching because I'll just go get the DVD when I could be bothered going.

[jambi]

I freaking love Dexter(the Show), the only "bad" thing about it is I notice a lot of similarities between Dexter(the character) & myself. Which is amusing & somewhat worrying at the same time.

I watch it with my wife and she always says I act just like him. I just smile and nod :nod:

Bestest (that's right, I said bestest) show on TV right now IMO.

[Tank]

Is anybody up to date with the latest season? The ending of the last episode was good. Dexter getting mad and another one of Trinity's family members was revealed. I knew that the coffin was going to be used for a fourth kill, since he got his first three over with so quickly in the season.

I'm also half-way right with my prediction from earlier regarding Deb and Lundy so far.

[jambi]

Last episode I saw Dexter went with Trinity to a build in Florida I think. Trinity tried to commit suicide by jumping off the house they were building and Dexter (who was there to kill him anyway) ends up saving him.

Rita looks like she may end up having an affair with one of their neighbors and Deb realized that Trinity is not the one that shot her and Lundy.

[Tank]

That was the episode before the last one. Masuka saw Elliot kiss Rita so something will probably happen with that. Dexter spent more time getting to know Trinity's family. It was a good episode. Stream it somewhere. The ending made me say "Holy shit". Three episodes left until Season 4 is finished.

[DK]

Season finale rivaled BSG's season 1 finisher for sheer wtfness

I don't want to wait another 9 damned months for the next one!

[fractal]

yeah, pretty awesome, amirite?!?!

September 26, 2010. looooong time. :(

but i just read that michael c. hall had hodgkins lymphoma that is now in remission. yikes.

[Kenpachi Bankai08]

Talk about a real shocker. I did not expect to see "her" die. very upsetting, and yet kinda makes me curious to think what will happen in the season. I hope his sister finds out who he really is and that he knew about being a brother to the ITK. lol sry, didn't want to spoil for anyone who hasn't watched yet.

[DK]

Meh, the series is over so anyone coming to this thread deserves any spoilers they get.

Then again we're still waiting on season 3 to come out over here, so i dunno. Spoiler tags for the major ones I guess

[Ash]

This is a Dexter thread. If you´re watching it you should be caught up. So stop with the her´s and shit.

RITA DIED. GAWD THERE I SAID IT.

[Dumbledore]

Not going to lie... I didn't expect that, but I guess I should have.

[Tank]

I loved the ending. Dexter's my favorite show. Rita dying was probably the biggest WTF moment in the entire series. I'm really wondering what they're supposed to do for the next season though, assuming everything goes alright with Michael C. Hall's health.

Cody and Astor will have some sort of serious emotional change, in the books they're homicidal just like Dexter is but I doubt they'll turn into killers since Harrison seems to have taken that road for them. Also, Dexter's going to have three kids to take care of full time, a job, and his need to kill to deal with. On top of that, we're going to need a storyline that'll encompass the entire season for twelve episodes. I doubt they're going to do another major villain, I didn't like the Miguel storyline in Season 3 that much, and they can't have Dexter investigated again so soon because that would throw up a red flag and they shouldn't be able to find his bodies anymore anyways.

Maybe they can do something with the investigation into Rita's death, but I don't know what they can do now. The writer's are going to have to pull out something big to top Season four's ending.

[DerekDarko]

I see another Dexter is the suspect season.

Quinn is one of my main reasons in that, he has become the new Dokes.
Maybe a new Lila will come in and blow his ass up to.
I would enjoy that.

But about the season end, it did rival the WTF that I got from Season 1.
I mean seriously, everything Trinity said, his little Sage speech, was all shit talking.
Trinity is easily the guy I hate the most in this show now.

Plus I think Deb is going to notice now that 2 serial killers have fucked with Dexter, little suspicious, don't ya think?

[Tank]

Quinn is way too much of a bitch to take Doakes' place. He's not smart enough or strong enough to keep up with Dexter. Just let him go on hating Dexter until Dexter puts him in his place. I laughed at his big words in the Season finale.

I don't think Dexter will be hunted again. At least not so soon. In Season 2 he had 18 bodies found. He's dumped his bodies in different places and in the gulf stream since then, so there's no way they can recover any bodies. No body, no murder. He's not big enough to gain the attention he had as the Bay Harbor Butcher again yet.

I do want Deb to find out about Dexter being a killer though. He could tell her how he killed Brian for her and maybe she would accept it like she does in the books. I wouldn't mind another villain season or Dexter being hunted; seasons 1, 2, and 4 were all great. I just hope they don't try to pull another Season 3 and bring in another Miguel.

[DerekDarko]

Yeah, I think Dexter has learned that he cannot have any real friends.

[Tank]

Well he can have friends, but Miguel just annoyed me. He is capable of having people close to him and caring about them like Deb, Rita, and the kids. He just can't let himself be controlled by anybody else like Lila or Miguel, he needs to think for himself and plan everything out. If Deb did find out, I still think that he could manage with everything.

[DerekDarko]

I really don't know if Deb could accept Dexter being a serial killer.
The only kill I think she could accept would have been Brian.

[Yachiru7979]

@Tank: Well he can't actually have friends. Yes, there are people he care about but he can't be honest of who he is and what he does and what he thinks with anyone.

And about Deb i don't think so he'd manage anything. She'd never accept who her brother really is and she wouldnt let him get away with it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqcomQsNQmE&feature=related
LOL

[Tank]

He can still have friends while keeping people in the dark about him being a serial killer. Masuka, Batista, Deb, Rita, Astor, and Cody are all close to him and none of them know about him killing people. Vince and Angel are still definitely his friends and the rest of them are close family members.

I can see Deb accepting Dexter after a lot of consideration. It works in the books, and although the books and show split off completely, I can still see Deb accepting it. In the books she knows who he is and what he does, but they still have somewhat of the same relationship that they had before since he takes care of her and wouldn't let Brian hurt her, which she was awake for in the books.

I'd really be fine with her accepting it or completely breaking down. I just want to see a scene where Deb finds out about Dexter and he has to explain everything from his childhood with Harry teaching him to killing Brian for Deb, framing Doakes, and killing the Skinner and Trinity.

[Yachiru7979]

^Well i insist that yes, he cares about them but they're not real friends to him. Just think about it. If Masuka or Batista found out he's a serial killer or were very close to find out who he is, dont you think he'd kill them as to save himself? Don't forget what his number 1 rule is.

And ugh about Deb i think she'd overreact and it'd take ages to accept him as he is, IF she'd ever be capable of accepting it anyway. I want to see such a scene too. But i don't think she'd be strong enough to hear the entire truth without emotionally colapsing.

[Kenpachi Bankai08]

One of the best moment of the show is when he went over the scenarios for telling Deb. I think she would turn him in, but hey you never know. I think we can expect a lot more from Quinn next season too .poor poor Rita tho.

[Tank]

Yeah but it's been quite a while and the only thing I'd really like to see would be Deb finding out about Dexter. It'd be a nice way for the plot to go actually, to see Dexter being found out by his sister or maybe a few others. There's not much I can actually think that could happen in the next season besides his relationship changing with the people around him anyways.

Dexter wouldn't kill Masuka or Batista if they found out about him killing people. He only considered killing Doakes for a little while and Doakes was pretty much his nemesis. Dexter can rewrite Harry's code to whatever he wants, and lately he's been more focused on the personal side of things. He's been more emotional and connected to people. I think that if it came down to killing one of his friends or being caught, he would try to find some alternative, because neither Masuka or Batista deserve to die.

Of course his personality could drastically change after Rita's death. He could be devastated and go back to being his cold, unfeeling, uncaring, sociopathic self and only care about Harrison.

EDIT: Fuck Quinn. He's a bad cop and a whiny bitch who acts bigger than he is. Dexter put him on his ass once and I guarantee you he'll do it again.

[Yachiru7979]

Yes she paid the price of being too close to Dexter.

Season 5's gonna be very interesting. Ugh i can't wait till September. Bummer ;(

@Tank: yes he can rewrite the code and he's been way more emotional but you think he'd change the way he acts for all those years and he'd let them turn him in because he wouldn't be able to kill them?

[DerekDarko]

Honestly, if they do end up ending the series, which would devastate me to be honest, I feel it would end with some indication of Harrison following in his fathers footsteps.
That is my take.

[Yachiru7979]

^Yes especially after he saw his own mother in a bath tab full of blood, sort of like what happened to Dex.(i put it in sp tags in case someone hasnt seen the entire season 4

However i don't think that Dex would teach Harrison what his dad taught him back. Unless Harrison grows up to have the similar personality and syndrome that Dex had.

[DerekDarko]

Well they were both Born in blood.

We don't need spoiler tags in here, the season 4 end has already been talked about + this is a Dexter forum, if you haven't seen the show, GTFO!

[Yachiru7979]

^lol okay, i just thought that there could be people who might haven't watched it all yet so i didn't want to spoil it for them.

[DerekDarko]

Well you are quite a nice lady.
But it has already been talked about in previous pages, so no need to worry about it.
:)

[Tank]

yes he can rewrite the code and he's been way more emotional but you think he'd change the way he acts for all those years and he'd let them turn him in because he wouldn't be able to kill them?

I still don't think he'd kill them unless it was absolutely necessary. They're good people who don't deserve to die. He had a hard enough time deciding on what he should do with Doakes, what do you think he'd have to think through if Masuka or Batista found out? Though I seriously doubt that either of them are good enough to catch him. If they had any evidence they'd probably be persuaded to chalk it up to crime scene contamination.

Well they were both Born in blood.!

I have a feeling that Harrison will develop the homicidal tendencies that Dexter has, but I don't even think that Harrison is a year old. There's no way that he should have any memories of his mother or the incident and therefore should not be effected by lying in his mother's blood. Dexter was three when he watched him mom killed, but when you're about one, I don't think you can recall those memories no matter how hard you try.

Of course it'll probably happen anyway for the sake of the plot.

[DerekDarko]

I have a feeling that Harrison will develop the homicidal tendencies that Dexter has, but I don't even think that Harrison is a year old. There's no way that he should have any memories of his mother or the incident and therefore should not be effected by lying in his mother's blood. Dexter was three when he watched him mom killed, but when you're about one, I don't think you can recall those memories no matter how hard you try.

Of course it'll probably happen anyway for the sake of the plot.

Well for him to actually remember it, I feel it would have to have some type of Dexter-like scenario.

As in a seeing another bathtub killing.
But you are right, he is only like 1, so it is likely that he will have no memory of it at all.

[Ash]

Deb should be able to except it, she does in the books anyways. And she's the same type of character in both.

Not a spoiler, she finds out after the first book which would be the first season.

[Kenpachi Bankai08]

Deb should be able to except it, she does in the books anyways. And she's the same type of character in both.

Not a spoiler, she finds out after the first book which would be the first season.

im lost. I didnt know there was books.

[fractal]

books were first.

[xdentrigger]

Yeah I believe the first series is loosely based on the first novel, and after that the series runs its own course.

[Ash]

Yeah I believe the first series is loosely based on the first novel, and after that the series runs its own course.

Basically yeah. I cant afford all the seasons on dvd so I went with the books, they do not disappoint.

[DerekDarko]

Basically yeah. I cant afford all the seasons on dvd so I went with the books, they do not disappoint.

Because I don't really feel like using google, who is the Author of these books?

I would really enjoy reading them.

[Kenpachi Bankai08]

^ yes i am interested as well, but wouldnt that mean it has alternate endings?

[Tank]

Jeff Lindsay writes the Dexter books. The first one is called Darkly Dreaming Dexter, the second Dearly Devoted Dexter, the third Dexter in the Dark, and the fourth Dexter by Design. The books are good but I prefer the series by a lot. Especially when you compare Season 1 to Darkly Dreaming Dexter. The series blew the novel out of the water in that storyline.

There aren't really alternate endings since they're two different stories. They are based off the same characters and backgrounds, but during the Ice Truck Killer / Tamiami Butcher, they go in their own direction. Deb is awake during the confrontation between Dexter and Brian where Dexter finds out about his past in the books, so Deb knows who he is. Also, Dexter let Brian kill LaGuerta and get away to be captured by the cops. From there they split off completely. Season 2 is about the Bay Harbor Butcher while Dearly Devoted Dexter is about Dexter and Doakes working together to catch a criminal who dismembers his victims completely and leaves them alive as useless sacks of meat.

[June]

if i recall correctly the 5th book, Dexter is Delicious, is due to be published this year sometime... heh, looking very much forward to it. Cx

[Kenpachi Bankai08]

Jeff Lindsay writes the Dexter books. The first one is called Darkly Dreaming Dexter, the second Dearly Devoted Dexter, the third Dexter in the Dark, and the fourth Dexter by Design. The books are good but I prefer the series by a lot. Especially when you compare Season 1 to Darkly Dreaming Dexter. The series blew the novel out of the water in that storyline.

There aren't really alternate endings since they're two different stories. They are based off the same characters and backgrounds, but during the Ice Truck Killer / Tamiami Butcher, they go in their own direction. Deb is awake during the confrontation between Dexter and Brian where Dexter finds out about his past in the books, so Deb knows who he is. Also, Dexter let Brian kill LaGuerta and get away to be captured by the cops. From there they split off completely. Season 2 is about the Bay Harbor Butcher while Dearly Devoted Dexter is about Dexter and Doakes working together to catch a criminal who dismembers his victims completely and leaves them alive as useless sacks of meat.


sweet thx

[Grimmjow_san]

The thing about Dexter is that he is the character that you hate to love, because you know what he is doing is very wrong, but because of the conditions in which he carries out his dark deeds we can't help but cheer him on. But the world most definitely doesn't need more Dexter's, he's a sociopath, he truly doesn't care about people no matter how well he can pretend it. The fact that he can put on that mask so well is truly frightening to me.

[Tank]

The thing about Dexter is that he is the character that you hate to love, because you know what he is doing is very wrong, but because of the conditions in which he carries out his dark deeds we can't help but cheer him on. But the world most definitely doesn't need more Dexter's, he's a sociopath, he truly doesn't care about people no matter how well he can pretend it. The fact that he can put on that mask so well is truly frightening to me.

Personally I love to love Dexter. The fact that he has no emotions makes him that much more logical and systematic. Just because he has the inability to truly care for another human being--although I think that's bogus, look at Deb, Rita, Harry, Cody, Astor, Harrison, or even Brian--doesn't make him a bad person in my eyes, nor does the fact that he's a serial killer. Dexter kills people that deserve it. And while he doesn't do it for vigilante purposes, but instead to satiate his need to kill, he still kills people that deserve it and performs a service that is good to society in my eyes, while able to protect the people close to him in his personal life through extreme measures (Deb, Rita, and Astor for example).

Personally I think Dexter is a good guy.

[Grimmjow_san]

Personally I love to love Dexter. The fact that he has no emotions makes him that much more logical and systematic. Just because he has the inability to truly care for another human being--although I think that's bogus, look at Deb, Rita, Harry, Cody, Astor, Harrison, or even Brian--doesn't make him a bad person in my eyes, nor does the fact that he's a serial killer. Dexter kills people that deserve it. And while he doesn't do it for vigilante purposes, but instead to satiate his need to kill, he still kills people that deserve it and performs a service that is good to society in my eyes, while able to protect the people close to him in his personal life through extreme measures (Deb, Rita, and Astor for example).

Personally I think Dexter is a good guy.

Well yeah that's true, he obviously cares for them, but he really doesn't understand why, if you remember at the very beginning of the television series he says about Deb that she is the closed person to him being able to care about someone. I'm still just watching the first season so I might be missing out on some key information, but it just seems to me that it's just another mask, he doesn't really understand the whole brother sister relationship and doesn't really know why he should care about them. To be honest, I really do like Dexter, I was talking about people in general, but while I think he is doing a service by killing these people, and I know that if he didn't satiate his want to kill with the scum of the world he would have killed an innocent and his whole life would have been ruined, he still is breaking the law. Also he only resorts to the extreme measures to help because he really doesn't know how to help otherwise, just completely remove the problem. I think this is what really appeals to people though, the thought of being able to get rid of your problem so easily. Whether people want to admit it or not, they all have a little Dexter in him.

Personally I think Dexter is a justified monster.

(mer sorry wrote this in a hurry, so not all thoughts are complete or presented very well =P)

[Tank]

Well yeah that's true, he obviously cares for them, but he really doesn't understand why, if you remember at the very beginning of the television series he says about Deb that she is the closed person to him being able to care about someone. I'm still just watching the first season so I might be missing out on some key information, but it just seems to me that it's just another mask, he doesn't really understand the whole brother sister relationship and doesn't really know why he should care about them. To be honest, I really do like Dexter, I was talking about people in general, but while I think he is doing a service by killing these people, and I know that if he didn't satiate his want to kill with the scum of the world he would have killed an innocent and his whole life would have been ruined, he still is breaking the law. Also he only resorts to the extreme measures to help because he really doesn't know how to help otherwise, just completely remove the problem. I think this is what really appeals to people though, the thought of being able to get rid of your problem so easily. Whether people want to admit it or not, they all have a little Dexter in him.)

So what if he's breaking the law? In Season 2, Dexter has to keep from being caught by the FBI's top serial killer hunter. Lundy, in a conversation with Dexter, tells him that the only single reason that the taking of a human life can be justified is in order to save an innocent human life. Dexter then monologues how if he hadn't done his work on the murderers of Miami then there would be much more bodies in total than his 40 something victims at the time (Although the FBI only found 18).

Also, if you remove a problem completely, then I'm pretty sure you've just helped somebody in the most effective way possible. Watch what happens with Rita and Paul. Although it does come back to bite Dexter in Season 2 in a completely different way, Dexter manages to solve the problems going on between Rita and Paul after being swept up in actual anger and not being able to control his emotions because of what might happen to Rita, Astor, and Cody.

Finish the series. It's probably the best show I've seen and definitely my favorite, but as it goes on I'm more and more convinced that Dexter is a good person even with his urges to kill.

[Grimmjow_san]

So what if he's breaking the law? In Season 2, Dexter has to keep from being caught by the FBI's top serial killer hunter. Lundy, in a conversation with Dexter, tells him that the only single reason that the taking of a human life can be justified is in order to save an innocent human life. Dexter then monologues how if he hadn't done his work on the murderers of Miami then there would be much more bodies in total than his 40 something victims at the time (Although the FBI only found 18).

Also, if you remove a problem completely, then I'm pretty sure you've just helped somebody in the most effective way possible. Watch what happens with Rita and Paul. Although it does come back to bite Dexter in Season 2 in a completely different way, Dexter manages to solve the problems going on between Rita and Paul after being swept up in actual anger and not being able to control his emotions because of what might happen to Rita, Astor, and Cody.

Finish the series. It's probably the best show I've seen and definitely my favorite, but as it goes on I'm more and more convinced that Dexter is a good person even with his urges to kill.

Well until I'm further in the series I can't say that he is a good guy, but maybe my opinion will change as I get further in, and yeah I just got done with the episode with Rita and Paul. But yeah I guess I can't fairly make a judgemnet until I'm farther in the series.