PDA

View Full Version : Bleach Episode 252 Discussion


Asskickulater
01-05-2010, 07:40 AM
RAW
Part 1
nk2wHWm4N10

Part 2
rTpMkx5NtkY

Part3
JRI2wy_6LJA

Lune
01-05-2010, 08:26 AM
Poll changed to proper format.

theseraph
01-05-2010, 09:02 AM
Good episode, action packed with some story packed into it- predictable, but entertaining.

veldalight
01-05-2010, 09:30 AM
:D Not gonna comment lots. Only complain is too short a fight between Byakuya & Senbonzakura. Explanation's clear. I'll still give it a 10 of course ;p
My fav part's Shuukei Hakuteiken. http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/559/shukei.jpg Wooo looks like PSP stuff. Looks better than the 1st time I saw it.
Haha I can forsee peeps discussing Aizen vs Koga's 5 senses stuff soon.

Asskickulater
01-05-2010, 09:51 AM
That's the thing i like about Byakuya, he always amazed me when his in bad situation,he never seem scare when his fighting is opponent (shock a lil bit, but not all the time)also he never seem exhausted,neither smiling lol

plotkaislayer
01-05-2010, 10:07 AM
I have no idea what they said to each other, but introducing new powers in filler makes me a little ho-hum. I enjoyed the fight scenes, though. The best part is how they gave us an insight into how Zans communicate in combat. I imagine this spiritual unison, since KT doesn't show it. Now, I get to see it :)

veldalight
01-05-2010, 10:13 AM
:) You'll love it when you watch the English Subbed one (provided they translate correctly).

@Revenge:Yeah he's always so calm. The child upbringing stuff at 253 preview is funny too.

Shimphan
01-05-2010, 10:25 AM
Cool episode, must be getin really close to the end now ( than god ).

Thought koga's powers were really cool, and looked even cooler.

What exactly was that arrancar looking hollow at the end?

veldalight
01-05-2010, 11:56 AM
You really want to know Shimphan?
It's [Hollowfied Muramasa

LazyBum
01-05-2010, 12:32 PM
it wasnt hollow muramasa if you remember the first time he starts to bleed he walks through a forest and he grabs a hollow with the same exact outline and eats it, and now that fools been released I mean come on did you really think it was gonna end with Byakua killin the main bad guy they gotta have someone for ichigo to beat

dyne
01-05-2010, 04:02 PM
http://www.bleachexile.com/multimedia/bleach-anime-downloads/

subs out

zan_get_su
01-05-2010, 05:23 PM
The latest BLEACH episode #252: “Byakuya, the Truth Behind his Betrayal” has been released in Raw form by jumpcn (http://www.jumpcn.com/). Also, Dattebayo (http://www.dattebayo.com/) has completely translated Bleach episode 252 with English subs. Enjoy!


http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/2505/bleach252.png

Raw Megaupload Link (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=J9HRJRZ7) l Sub Megaupload Link (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=13AB7B8L)

Great episode!

Yadomaru
01-05-2010, 06:56 PM
Well, well, well...In brief, this was, I think, a most definite Perfect Ten episode
I don't think Kuchiki-taichou has been this awesome since...oh, since the SS Arc ended.
I especially love how they animated his bankai release in this episode, and I absolutely fangasmed at the reanimated shot of Hakuteiken. I also loved seeing Senkei again, as IMO those two are the coolest of Byakuya's moves.
Senbonzakura self-releasing was a bit unexpected, but seriously cool.

Oh, and BTW, Byakuya pretending to betray SS to stick close to Muramasa so as to get to Kouga, who dishonored the Kuchiki name, and kill him? Yeah. typical Byakuya.
While I'm on the subject...BADASS fight. Kouga doing the whole illusion thing is kinda meh, but cool. But speaking of Kouga, him trashing Muramasa(literally and figuratively) was to be expected, given that he's even more of a prick to his zanpakuto than Kenpachi.
I haven't seen a fight this good in a loooong time. Hell, IMO it's better than most of the fights in the HM/FKT arc we've seen animated thus far - and it's filler. And even just within filler episodes in general, I'd have to say this was IMO the best fight yet.
And it ain't even over.

Dooks
01-05-2010, 08:20 PM
I wish I could vote this episode an 11. it featured a bunch of new kidou moves and a bad-ass Byakuya final form.

I'm a little disappointed in Byakuya reusing the shield defense move AFTER Kouga told him he's messing with his perceptions. he should've used one that guarded from all sides. but I'll let it slide.

can't wait for Hollow Muramasa next week!

chickdigger802
01-05-2010, 08:51 PM
Holy shit these fillers are raping the arrancar arc animation wise... Haven't seen such amazing weapon based combat since Sword of stranger...

Still kinda confused on why Kouga couldn't utilize his genjutsu thingy in the senken thing.

At least this makes up for the utter fail fight versus 7th espada.

BTW: why are filler menos so much weaker than manga menos?

Playboy Joe
01-05-2010, 08:59 PM
Nice episode. After the flashback you could guess why Byakuya "betrayed" the Shinigami, so this episode was very predictable, but the best action we ever saw in a filler. And I like that some other Shinigami than Ichigo owns a hardcore badass.I already started asking myself how the Shinigami survied so long without Ichigo.^^ Also we saw Byakuya can fight without his hax Zanpakutou.
Kouga's actions were pretty cool, too. And I liked this blue glow on his weapon.^^
I think best filler episode we ever saw.
But can't give 10 because of Kouga's Wanna-be-Kyouka-Suigetsu.
9.5/10

reiatsudown
01-05-2010, 09:01 PM
After a few episodes of mediocre animation, the latest and (still) greatest bleach filler came back with a bang. Wow! If they can keep a decent pace and budget for the remaining episodes this is definitely a filler arc I'd recommend.

Rokuro
01-05-2010, 09:05 PM
Well, well, well...In brief, this was, I think, a most definite Perfect Ten episode
I don't think Kuchiki-taichou has been this awesome since...oh, since the SS Arc ended.
I especially love how they animated his bankai release in this episode, and I absolutely fangasmed at the reanimated shot of Hakuteiken. I also loved seeing Senkei again, as IMO those two are the coolest of Byakuya's moves.
Senbonzakura self-releasing was a bit unexpected, but seriously cool.

Oh, and BTW, Byakuya pretending to betray SS to stick close to Muramasa so as to get to Kouga, who dishonored the Kuchiki name, and kill him? Yeah. typical Byakuya.
While I'm on the subject...BADASS fight. Kouga doing the whole illusion thing is kinda meh, but cool. But speaking of Kouga, him trashing Muramasa(literally and figuratively) was to be expected, given that he's even more of a prick to his zanpakuto than Kenpachi.
I haven't seen a fight this good in a loooong time. Hell, IMO it's better than most of the fights in the HM/FKT arc we've seen animated thus far - and it's filler. And even just within filler episodes in general, I'd have to say this was IMO the best fight yet.
And it ain't even over.

QFT. Bigtime.

Maybe it's because I've taken off a week from Bleach, but I don't think that's the main reason. It was just hella awesome, the animation was gorgeous and the two actually did a far better sparring job than Hitsugaya and Harribel (which was arguably the longest spar in Bleach history).

Talnar
01-05-2010, 09:47 PM
Now that's a fight. I found Kouga's random sense ability to be a bit cheap and unnecessary, but I suppose they needed an excuse to have Byakuya go all out and really lay down the law.

NachtJäger
01-06-2010, 01:59 AM
Amazing fight scene, probably the best fight actionwise and animation in the whole of bleach. Perception ability manipulation by Kouga is like an Aizen mini-me though.

Kronoch
01-06-2010, 02:30 AM
That was awesome. The first time in a while that I watched an episode from start to finish and never even took my eyes of the screen till the credits started rolling.

For a second I feared Ichigo was going to "save" Byakuya there, but luckily it was Senbonzakura.

veldalight
01-06-2010, 02:41 AM
Yeah. Got me glued and I'd rewatched it 6 times! Brings back the old Bleach excitement.

Nocturne' Ichigo
01-06-2010, 03:44 AM
good episode....actually enjoyed this

-MaNi-
01-06-2010, 04:07 AM
yep, pretty good episode! Fight scenes were great, interesting to watch. Sometimes abit slow on plot progression, but overall really good episode. Gd quality, gd music, gd fights, gd conversations etc

xPyrox
01-06-2010, 04:19 AM
A good fight, for once it wasnt all "BANKAI, YEAH FUCK YEAH" it was actually a proper fight, using kidous and abilitys, no bankai for kouga, good thing too, Kouga with Muramasa and a bankai could have been bad for Byakuya

CakeSpoon
01-06-2010, 05:00 AM
The fight between Byakuya & Muramasa, despite being in stills, was one of the best fights I've seen in Bleach, I really liked it.

I lol'd at Rukia gleefully spouting "nii-sama" responded by Byakuya's look of "STFU bitch".

Omake was one of the lamer ones in recent times.

OMGLOLBBQ
01-06-2010, 05:07 AM
The ability to control his opponent's five senses? Hello, Aizen. >_>

There are a lot of plot holes, so many that I'm surprised Kouga doesn't fall into them. -___-

My main problems are:

-Tentacle powers

This is just... given no explanation. Muramasa and Kouga can just use it... and what's more confusing is that Kouga can use it without Muramasa's powers, so it's not a zanpakutou ability. I mean, what it does and the nature of the technique are easy enough to figure out, but... whose attack is it? What is it?

-Ichigo and Rukia

Okay, come on. He betrayed you all, attacked his comrades, and KILLED SODE NO SHIRAYUKI. I mean, of course she'll get her back, but they don't know that! Are you really so into the the whole 'ends justifies the means' thing?

-Un-numbered Kidou

Nothing really major, it's just annoying that they didn't bother to number Kouga's cool new kidou. Or classify them, although granted with the exception of the ice one, they're all probably destructive rather than binding. I just feel the need to slot them into the list properly. >_<

With that said, this episode was brilliant, fight-wise. The choreography, the music, the animation were all top quality, and it's great to see what appears to be a redone Shukei Hakuten. Looks more like lightning this time around...

Az00123
01-06-2010, 06:06 AM
even though kouga seems like a lame washed up aizen, the animation quality was amazing for bleach and made this ep a pleasure to watch

JeMB
01-06-2010, 06:07 AM
Nice episode. After the flashback you could guess why Byakuya "betrayed" the Shinigami, so this episode was very predictable, but the best action we ever saw in a filler. And I like that some other Shinigami than Ichigo owns a hardcore badass.I already started asking myself how the Shinigami survied so long without Ichigo.^^ Also we saw Byakuya can fight without his hax Zanpakutou.
Kouga's actions were pretty cool, too. And I liked this blue glow on his weapon.^^
I think best filler episode we ever saw.
But can't give 10 because of Kouga's Wanna-be-Kyouka-Suigetsu.
9.5/10

do you think that old fart yama isnt powerful enough?

I want to ask one thing. Dont u think that Kouga was destined to be enemy of SS?from the beginning and its probably the reason why they were so careful with him. Just look at his zan...basically working just against shinigamis. when he faces really strong hollow, his zanpakutou ability isnt helping at all right?

build6
01-06-2010, 07:47 AM
I want to ask one thing. Dont u think that Kouga was destined to be enemy of SS?from the beginning and its probably the reason why they were so careful with him. Just look at his zan...basically working just against shinigamis. when he faces really strong hollow, his zanpakutou ability isnt helping at all right?


hrm. good point. his weapon's power seems specifically geared against other shinigamis and not hollows, which are supposed to be the "real" enemy... . I mean, all the other shinigami's powers can be quite straightforward-ly used against hollow, right?

then again, what was it with Muramasa "containing" Gillian? I don't get it.

samir12
01-06-2010, 08:05 AM
Nice episode, most likely Murumasa will get pissed because of Kouga getting defeated by Byakuya (if he gets defeated), and then Ichigo will be the one to fight him.

Arqueus
01-06-2010, 08:54 AM
Best episode in a long time IMO. I liked how the fight was animated, and they both got a chance to shine.

I wont deny Koga's ability does mimic Aizen, but its not really the same, more akin to another shinigami with sense-screwing abilities from the manga <cough>

Actually im willing to let the unnamed Kido slide, simply because Koga most likely learned Kido from elder Shinigami, before the Academy was founded, perhaps the number categories came afterwards, so it contrasts Koga's more bloodthirsty demeanor and abilities which are geared more to fighting other shinigami, with Byakuyas more refined, hollow fighting abilities. I realize this is filler, and hence not necessarily cannon, but still, gives it some flavor.

airyie
01-06-2010, 09:59 AM
Loved the animation for this episode. It was very nice, crisp, and appealing.

Seems to me like the people with good character design (muramasa) seem to be portrayed in a good light in some way;while, people with bad character design (kouga) end up being whiny bitches.

Yadomaru
01-06-2010, 11:11 AM
True in general, but not always. Shusuke Amagai had a pretty great character design, and he turned out to be a whiny bitch.

Mike Kuchiki
01-06-2010, 11:22 AM
lol a ten!!! great animation so seen so far in BLEACH HISTORY!!!!! Amazing!

rebelshinigami
01-06-2010, 01:13 PM
Great episode. The animation was awesome. Loved the way the fight played out. No anime captures the heart of combat better than Bleach(depending on the fight) such as when Tousen had flashbacks of what motivated him in his fight with Kenpachi back in SS arc for example. Anyways this fight played out pretty well so far. Enjoyed it.

annsaint
01-06-2010, 01:41 PM
despair made muramasa hollow inside

Slickz0r
01-06-2010, 02:00 PM
despair made muramasa hollow inside

you're comment is as deep as a pond. made me lulz though.

Dooks
01-06-2010, 03:37 PM
then again, what was it with Muramasa "containing" Gillian? I don't get it.

he absorbed gillians (and at least one vasto lorde) in order to sustain his body until he freed Kouga. when his reiatsu went berserk, they came out.

speaking of which, they still need to explain how the hell Muramasa got out of Kouga's soul while he was sealed in order to start the zanpakuto rebellion.

further speaking of which, perhaps he wasn't lying when he said he "killed" his master. he probably thought the other shinigami killed him, and it was his fault because of his abilities being so controversial. and when he finally got into Yamamoto's head in the cave, he finally learned that Kouga was still alive and where he was sealed.

Yadomaru
01-06-2010, 04:00 PM
Apparently Muramasa's always been able to materialize on his own - he did it a couple of times during the Kouga backstory eps...He just did it again, somehow...not sure how though.

Bankai - Ichigo
01-06-2010, 04:03 PM
I agree that this episode was great, and yeah, Dooks is right about the Gillian and VL thing. I too want to know how Muramasa got out of Kouga's soul after Kouga was sealed, though. They need to explain that.

Also, the perception thing isn't really Aizen's ability, the only similarity it has with his is the fact that it works on the opponent's five senses. Other than that though . . . I can't believe that the manga-readers on here can't figure this out; remember Shinji's Reversed World?! Seriously. *smacks forehead* Still though, since Shinji's one of my favorite characters, I'm really pissed that they turned Kouga into a Sakanade rip-off.

Anyway, yes, a perfect 10 episode.

Edit:

@Yadomaru: Yeah, you're probably right, but even then, some explanations are still needed like you said.

JayR
01-06-2010, 04:05 PM
I disliked this one simply because they were taking stuff from the manga plot line

Bankai - Ichigo
01-06-2010, 04:37 PM
Does that really matter though? Kubo co-wrote this filler arc, so it is partially canon, anyway.

JeMB
01-06-2010, 05:00 PM
I agree that this episode was great, and yeah, Dooks is right about the Gillian and VL thing. I too want to know how Muramasa got out of Kouga's soul after Kouga was sealed, though. They need to explain that.

can i ask where do u have that VL from? its a bit late, but still i am not gettin it...

Luune
01-06-2010, 06:04 PM
lol a ten!!! great animation so seen so far in BLEACH HISTORY!!!!! Amazing!

They did a really good job animating this fight especially considering that it's filler. Beats the hell out of some of the canon fights.

perfectchaos83
01-06-2010, 08:56 PM
The fight itself was amazing. What annoyed me is the Aizen-esque abilities of Kouga, came from fucking nowhere... If not for that I would have rated it a 10.

I also liked the Communicating with your Zan makes you a better fighter thing, totally reminded me of the Ichi v Kenny fight.

9/10

Shahzad
01-06-2010, 11:24 PM
can i ask where do u have that VL from? its a bit late, but still i am not gettin it...


Im not sure which episode (prolly around 240ish) they show Murumasa in the forest he is coughing and stuff (tearing blood) and he sees a hollow (shown as just a shadow) which appeared to look like a Vasto Lorde.

JeMB
01-07-2010, 12:49 AM
Im not sure which episode (prolly around 240ish) they show Murumasa in the forest he is coughing and stuff (tearing blood) and he sees a hollow (shown as just a shadow) which appeared to look like a Vasto Lorde.

heh i remember that episode, but i dont take it. VL should be more powerful than average captain. And guessing just from the appearance? i think that this is shallow guess, but you are welcome to change my mind:odd:

skycrapper
01-07-2010, 05:44 AM
10/10 : Byakuya vs Kouga battle of awesomeness.

Question : How / when / where Kouga learned how to use those spear things?

Yadomaru
01-07-2010, 06:02 AM
On the VL issue: While it is true that the Hollow in question was a small humanoid, and so was PROBABLY a VL, it is by no means definitely one - unless stated explicitly as such.

Adjuchas can also be quite small...

CakeSpoon
01-07-2010, 06:14 AM
The only regular adjuchas we've seen were in the ever confusing canon-wise forest of menos mini-arc. So who knows who actually designed them, Kubo drew Ashido, but I'm not sure if he did the same with the menos.

aastik01
01-07-2010, 07:04 AM
it is the awesome episode and the best one that i have ever seen till now!

JeMB
01-07-2010, 07:40 AM
On the VL issue: While it is true that the Hollow in question was a small humanoid, and so was PROBABLY a VL, it is by no means definitely one - unless stated explicitly as such.

Adjuchas can also be quite small...

cant it be just normal hollow? Does typical hollow have to be so big?

Yadomaru
01-07-2010, 08:17 AM
For what little it's worth, established precedent seems to be that most regular(non-Menos-class) have been fairly large - for the most part, they have indeed been a good bit bigger than human-size.

The only regular adjuchas we've seen were in the ever confusing canon-wise forest of menos mini-arc.
No, I'm pretty sure there've been others that we HAVE seen as un-arrancarized Adjuchas
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/bleach/en/images/e/e3/Grimmjow_Adjuchas.png
This guy, for instance, was definitely an adjuchas.

CakeSpoon
01-07-2010, 08:19 AM
No, I'm pretty sure there've been others that we HAVE seen as un-arrancarized Adjuchas
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/bleach/en/images/e/e3/Grimmjow_Adjuchas.png
This guy, for instance, was definitely an adjuchas.
As were, I'm fairly certain, most of these guys, though I'm less sure:
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/bleach/en/images/a/ad/GrimmFraccion.jpg

Lol, I forgot.

You're completely right.

LaoED
01-07-2010, 11:06 AM
10/10 : Byakuya vs Kouga battle of awesomeness.

Question : How / when / where Kouga learned how to use those spear things?

Kouga most likely had Kidou when he was still in Soul Society, we've just never really seen him use anything else but sword skills and muramasa until now.

JeMB
01-07-2010, 11:31 AM
No, I'm pretty sure there've been others that we HAVE seen as un-arrancarized Adjuchas
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/bleach/en/images/e/e3/Grimmjow_Adjuchas.png
This guy, for instance, was definitely an adjuchas.

okay i am gonna watch the part where muramasa ate that one to check how he looked like, cause i am not sure. But when u take a look on that guy up there, he doesnt look like typical adjucha...i dont know what that should mean...

Playboy Joe
01-07-2010, 02:57 PM
do you think that old fart yama isnt powerful enough?

I want to ask one thing. Dont u think that Kouga was destined to be enemy of SS?from the beginning and its probably the reason why they were so careful with him. Just look at his zan...basically working just against shinigamis. when he faces really strong hollow, his zanpakutou ability isnt helping at all right?
Sry for this late reaction.
My comment about Ichigo were a bit ironic. I'm well aware that the captains are strong and able to defeat the bad guys. But since they know Ichigo he handles the bosses. That irks me a bit. It looks like some the captains think: "Oh? A bad guy. No Problem, Ichigo will handle things. I'll take a nap."^^

Of course it belongs to this genre, that the main char is the hero. But it's a bit sad, because of this cool characters.

I had to read your post 2 times. If I missunderstand it, just ignore this.

JeMB
01-07-2010, 03:41 PM
Sry for this late reaction.
My comment about Ichigo were a bit ironic. I'm well aware that the captains are strong and able to defeat the bad guys. But since they know Ichigo he handles the bosses. That irks me a bit. It looks like some the captains think: "Oh? A bad guy. No Problem, Ichigo will handle things. I'll take a nap."^^

Of course it belongs to this genre, that the main char is the hero. But it's a bit sad, because of this cool characters.

I had to read your post 2 times. If I missunderstand it, just ignore this.

no, no u read that right :) ah yeah its funny u r right. I am sure but take them as a policemen, they have their duty so when some young stupid idiot is goin to do my work, why tryin to stop him? :D Yeah its sad especially the older captains are great...sorry i didnt understand that it was sarcasm :)

xPyrox
01-07-2010, 06:37 PM
Watched this again earlier and realised something. The stuidos fights when they dont have ichigo going "GETSUGA TENSHOU, BANKAI, I WILL DEFEAT YOU" and "KUROSAKI-KUN" are actually epic as hell.

Bankai - Ichigo
01-08-2010, 12:47 AM
The fight itself was amazing. What annoyed me is the Aizen-esque abilities of Kouga, came from fucking nowhere... If not for that I would have rated it a 10.

I also liked the Communicating with your Zan makes you a better fighter thing, totally reminded me of the Ichi v Kenny fight.

9/10

Read my post about Kouga's abilities . . . it's not an Aizen rip-off, and you should know whose it's more similar to if you've paid attention to a certain someone's Shikai in the latest chapters who just got first blood on Aizen.

@Everyone else: That panther Adjuchas, by the way, is Grimmjow, in case anyone has forgotten. It was him before he was Arrancarized. Him and all of his Fraccion were all Adjuchas.

Oxyuranus
01-08-2010, 02:09 AM
Watched this again earlier and realised something. The stuidos fights when they dont have ichigo going "GETSUGA TENSHOU, BANKAI, I WILL DEFEAT YOU" and "KUROSAKI-KUN" are actually epic as hell.

With one exception. Ichigo vs Grim /Vizard vs unreleased was pretty damn epic and it had plebty of KUROSAKI-KUN in it LOL

As for this fight, beautiful! This should be teh standard from here on out in bleach or at the very least for the canon episodes. If I do not strat seeing some epci, and I mean epic animation when we got back to HM I may have to fly to japan and backhand somone.

jambi
01-08-2010, 08:28 AM
Watched this again earlier and realised something. The stuidos fights when they dont have ichigo going "GETSUGA TENSHOU, BANKAI, I WILL DEFEAT YOU" and "KUROSAKI-KUN" are actually epic as hell.

QFT

-Shin-
01-08-2010, 09:37 AM
the best episode in Animation in ages Awesome characters movement
10\10 all the way . I dont care about anything else for a filler .the Animation made me say Wow every 5 seconds this never happened since .... I cant remember SS arc maybe

PS: although I hate Buyakya this episode made me respect him alot .

skycrapper
01-08-2010, 09:52 AM
the best episode in Animation in ages Awesome characters movement
10\10 all the way . I dont care about anything else for a filler .the Animation made me say Wow every 5 seconds this never happened since .... I cant remember SS arc maybe

PS: although I hate Buyakya this episode made me respect him alot .

Which part of the episode?

Mike Kuchiki
01-08-2010, 10:06 AM
this ep is good! The music, the aninimation. There should be more "Side action." you know, other charaters get some light and not only ichigo

-Shin-
01-08-2010, 10:10 AM
Which part of the episode?

4:45 when he swear's to Ginrie that he will stop kouga by "the Honor of the Kuchiki family"

6:12 when he tells kouga "I can not allow you to live any longer I will kill you for having soiled our family name"

The Music there also do pretty good job to make you react with the situation

skycrapper
01-08-2010, 10:33 AM
@ShinigamiX Ah, yes . . . he's currently the head of the Kuchiki klan, afterall. But, doesn't he always do that pride and honor thing, like, all the time?

-Shin-
01-08-2010, 11:31 AM
@skycrapper

Um man I dont know if you have seen the episode yet or not?

yes he do that Pride thing all the time . but this is the first time you feel him sayin it for real because the story focusing on him and the kuchiki family.

And when he swore to Ginrie that was in the past before he become head of the Kuchiki clan . so you get the feeling this is the first time you see him Bow for someone . and he realy was bowing on his knees when he swore to him.

skycrapper
01-08-2010, 11:37 AM
Yeah . . . Byakuya is a man with THAT strong sense of pride and honor.

Catscratch
01-08-2010, 11:42 AM
Byakuya is always serious.

Here's a little detail about his seriousness, he was never drawn in WTF face in manga. I mean the style with miniature drawings with big eyes, jaws off situation. I bet there's a name for that state in a manga or anime. Byakuya was never drawn in that style. He rarely gets suprised.

skycrapper
01-08-2010, 11:48 AM
Hmmm . . . in this episode he seems to get surprised when he witnessed Kouga's special ability for the first time. His face is quite comical, IMO :D

CakeSpoon
01-08-2010, 11:48 AM
Byakuya is always serious.

Here's a little detail about his seriousness, he was never drawn in WTF face in manga. I mean the style with miniature drawings with big eyes, jaws off situation. I bet there's a name for that state in a manga or anime. Byakuya was never drawn in that style. He rarely gets suprised.

He was pretty surprised when Ichigo appeared right next to him just after he used bankai.

JeMB
01-08-2010, 12:01 PM
He was pretty surprised when Ichigo appeared right next to him just after he used bankai.

yeah right, but once in all storyline is rarely...

airyie
01-08-2010, 01:54 PM
The animation was excellent parts 2-3.

BigBoogerBot
01-09-2010, 05:59 PM
My favorite part is the sword fighting and kidou. It was very well done.

Zero-sama
01-09-2010, 08:41 PM
I only saw the fight because I really hate fillers, but WOW that fight of Byakuya was indeed epic, awesome art and animation. The best filler episode with action till now.

pumpkin13
01-09-2010, 08:49 PM
Byakuya is always serious.

Here's a little detail about his seriousness, he was never drawn in WTF face in manga. I mean the style with miniature drawings with big eyes, jaws off situation. I bet there's a name for that state in a manga or anime. Byakuya was never drawn in that style. He rarely gets suprised.

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/163/02/ Thats a wtf face IMO. On the previous page you see a close up of his widened eye.

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/163/11/ there's another one.
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/163/12/ again.
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/163/13/ more.
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/163/16/ ^_~
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/163/17/

i could go on but hell that whole chapter is pretty much one massive WTF face for Byakuya.

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/116/40/ there's one from a different chapter.
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/116/42/ close up of his WTF eye.

^_~ sorry

Sole
01-09-2010, 10:01 PM
I like how they incorporated Byakuya's bankai stages smoothly. His third stage bankai was more detailed than the Soul Society arc's.

Zero-sama
01-09-2010, 10:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqFHALbnvO0

One of the best animated fights in Bleach.

Raylan
01-10-2010, 03:41 AM
9.5/10

I never give out tens but this one made me want to change my mind. Excellent episode in terms of story progression and fighting. The blade vs blade fighting portion reminded me of Kenshin in some ways. Byakuya's crazy new technique was also pretty legit, he looked like a seraph or something. Great ep!

CakeSpoon
01-10-2010, 03:43 AM
9.5/10

I never give out tens but this one made me want to change my mind. Excellent episode in terms of story progression and fighting. The blade vs blade fighting portion reminded me of Kenshin in some ways. Byakuya's crazy new technique was also pretty legit, he looked like a seraph or something. Great ep!

It's not new, he used it vs Ichigo.

cientista
01-10-2010, 02:14 PM
Hi!

It's my first post on the forum (but i'm a regular visitor)!

My favorite character is Byakuya and my question is simple: Since the first episodes of bleach i notice that the animators made thinks disappear and appear in Byakuya's animations!

When Byakuya uses the Shikai sometimes he have the hilt of Senbonzakura and in a flash the animation change and the hilt disappear from his hand, after a bit the animation change and when returns to Byakuya he have the hilt of Senbonzakura again in his hand?!

But in this last episode i saw a big "mistake":

Since the beginning of the episode Byakuya have Senbonzakura in his hand and the moment Ichigo and Rukia start fight the gillians he still have, but when he and the materialized Senbonzakura run to start fight Kouga the Zanpaktou have desappeard from his hand the the materialized Senbonzakura return to Zanpaktou form in his hand! What happened between this two moments?

He throw the Senbozakura out to use the materialized Senbonzakura?! :p

But i love this episode and i give a 10!!! I'm just saying that the bleach animators do what they want in the animations..

(and sorry for my English)

xPyrox
01-10-2010, 02:20 PM
Hi!

It's my first post on the forum (but i'm a regular visitor)!

My favorite character is Byakuya and my question is simple: Since the first episodes of bleach i notice that the animators made thinks disappear and appear in Byakuya's animations!

When Byakuya uses the Shikai sometimes he have the hilt of Senbonzakura and in a flash the animation change and the hilt disappear from his hand, after a bit the animation change and when returns to Byakuya he have the hilt of Senbonzakura again in his hand?!

But in this last episode i saw a big "mistake":

Since the beginning of the episode Byakuya have Senbonzakura in his hand and the moment Ichigo and Rukia start fight the gillians he still have, but when he and the materialized Senbonzakura run to start fight Kouga the Zanpaktou have desappeard from his hand the the materialized Senbonzakura return to Zanpaktou form in his hand! What happened between this two moments?

He throw the Senbozakura out to use the materialized Senbonzakura?! :p

But i love this episode and i give a 10!!! I'm just saying that the bleach animators do what they want in the animations..

Your English isn't great but I'm going to answer your post in a few words.

The animators suck.

Sole
01-10-2010, 04:00 PM
I thought that was pretty odd too. I guess the animators was going for appearance rather than common sense.

skycrapper
01-10-2010, 05:12 PM
More oddities : Kyoraku fought Katen Kyoukotsu in his shikai mode! Check ep. 247.

When Katen Kyoukutsu rebels, Kyoraku can't go into shikai, right?

CakeSpoon
01-10-2010, 05:24 PM
More oddities : Kyoraku fought Katen Kyoukotsu in his shikai mode! Check ep. 247.

When Katen Kyoukutsu rebels, Kyoraku can't go into shikai, right?

I think lots of people did. But I'm sure Renji & Ikkaku used shikai.

skycrapper
01-10-2010, 05:47 PM
Ah, yes . . . if the "young" VCs can gain shikai to fight their zanpakutou spirits, then it's going to be an easy one for Kyoraku to go shikai too.

veldalight
01-10-2010, 05:56 PM
As far as I know, they only can't use bankai.

JayR
01-11-2010, 01:44 AM
looks like we won't be seeing the manga story arc continuing any time soon.
Extending the fillers again.

Yadomaru
01-11-2010, 06:48 AM
Not new. Been known for a while now that fillers would continue into April.
Not that I mind. Much.

Catscratch
01-11-2010, 06:57 AM
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/163/02/ Thats a wtf face IMO. On the previous page you see a close up of his widened eye.

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/163/11/ there's another one.
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/163/12/ again.
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/163/13/ more.
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/163/16/ ^_~
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/163/17/

i could go on but hell that whole chapter is pretty much one massive WTF face for Byakuya.

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/116/40/ there's one from a different chapter.
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/116/42/ close up of his WTF eye.

^_~ sorry

Those are normal wtfs. Shocked. I meant something different, i'll try to find a scene which contains what I meant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csx7F8SRg7s&feature=related
The first episode of bleach, the drawing style when rukia makes a mustache to ichigo, etc. You know those moments where the characters are drawn like 5 years old children, goofy moments.

veldalight
01-12-2010, 05:56 AM
:) Watching 253.

aastik01
01-12-2010, 06:45 AM
U are always ahead of rest of us velda!

JeMB
01-12-2010, 06:57 AM
its probably cause she knows chinese or so?:P

veldalight
01-12-2010, 06:57 AM
Muahahaha :)

ogihci
01-12-2010, 07:10 AM
Raw has been out on youtube

1sSBuJONkvo
yOx_NSF9yTM

Inazagi
01-16-2010, 04:19 PM
This episode was just a re-hash of everything done in the past. The first part of the Bya/Kou fight was pretty good, especially the combat moves/dances etc.