Naruto 469 Discussion

[Infinitekaos]

Originally Posted by d2sharp

But he was still out smarted by a fish. Mwahahahahahahahahaha. JK.
Byakugan is described as the "all seeing", while sharingan is the "all controlling".
The advantage the byakugan would give danzou would be imense, it would allow him to see basically everything that the sharingan can't, yeah its got a blind spot but if he keeps moving the chance of being hit in a blind spot is miniscule. Byakugan will also allow him to sense and see enemies at a distance, while sharingan will aid him in CQC.

Where did you get those descriptions of the Byakugan and the Sharingan? I don't recall ever hearing those before.

[d2sharp]

Originally Posted by Infinitekaos

Where did you get those descriptions of the Byakugan and the Sharingan? I don't recall ever hearing those before.

To tell you the truth I currently don't have the proof for those statements but Im on finding them now. I recall hearing them a few months go but from where I seriously cant remember. Until I get proof (If I can) don't take the my statement to count unless you want to of course.
This is what I remember
Byakugan: The all seeing eye
Sharingan: The all controling eye
Rinnengan: The all knowing eye

[xPyrox]

Originally Posted by d2sharp

To tell you the truth I currently don't have the proof for those statements but Im on finding them now. I recall hearing them a few months go but from where I seriously cant remember. Until I get proof (If I can) don't take the my statement to count unless you want to of course.
This is what I remember
Byakugan: The all seeing eye
Sharingan: The all controling eye
Rinnengan: The all knowing eye

This sounds about right even if there is nothing to back it up.

[d2sharp]

I found the byakugan piece, even though its wiki I doubt you can argue against the translation.
The Byakugan (白眼; Viz "Evil Eye" or "All Seeing White Eye"; Literally meaning "White Eye")

So byakugan is "The all seeing white eye." I was close

[Infinitekaos]

Originally Posted by d2sharp

I found the byakugan piece, even though its wiki I doubt you can argue against the translation.
The Byakugan (白眼; Viz "Evil Eye" or "All Seeing White Eye"; Literally meaning "White Eye")

So byakugan is "The all seeing white eye." I was close

So literally Byakugan means White Eye, but someone at Viz decided to call it the All Seeing White Eye. I dunno, sounds like they're just trying to make it sound cool instead of literally translating it. Kinda like how they change the name of all the Shikai activations in Bleach for whatever reason.

For example from Gin's wikipedia page: "Another trigger phrase, used in the first Soul Society arc, was "Shoot 'em dead". Its first rendering in the Viz translation was "skewer that punk"" I like the literal translations instead of Viz trying to make it sound more American or "PC".

And also, Sharingan literally means copy wheel eye, I believe. So I don't know how they'd get "all controlling eye". It doesn't really control anything, unless you consider genjutsu as controlling but Copy Wheel Eye is much better.

And as far as I know, Rinnegan is the Transmigration Eye or something similar.

I don't think the summary of the eyes you posted from Viz is that accurate, which is why I like watching subbed anime instead of dubbed. That's my opinion.

[Marbos]

Well the Sharingan is said to be able to control the 9 tails fox like a pet. and we all saw sasuke control Manda with just genjutsu so i can believe the "all controlling" and since the possessor of the Rinnengan is said to be able to control all elements i can see where they get the "all knowing" title.

[Fatstogey]

Originally Posted by d2sharp

I doubt Kakashi copied it off the fourth since he didn't even have mangekyou back then (as far as we know), and Minatos' time space jutsu was more like a summoning speed teleportation thingy rather than madaras complete control over space and time on his own body. But then again I could be wrong.

Yea but Kakashi was also known as "the copy ninja" before he had the MS. Dont need MS to copy a jutsu thats just what the normal sharingan does.

Yea think about it. What madara does is exactly the same as what the 4th did. With 2 exceptions. He can move certain parts of his body at a time and he can do it without a "marker." I guess sorta like the sharingan doesnt need the marker because it has more insight into the power than minato could have without the sharingan. Im saying madara copied it and made it better. And kakashi is trying to copy it as well but not as far along as madara is cause he isnt kekkei genkai like madara.

Although it hasnt really shown it as it has madara's but the way the 4ths powers have been described i see it when i see madara do what he did. That to me is excatly what was described of the 4th. WE just havent ever seen the 4th do it in great detail. But a space time teleportation seems to be exactly what madara's doing and exactly what Kakashi's MS does.

So im just saying the only 2 people weve seen do "space time" techniques are 2 sharingan users who just so happen to both be witnesses to the 4ths "time space" techniques. So IMO i think both of them have copied his jutsu. And were only capable of doing so cause they got hte sharingan. Im not saying that is correct. Just saying IMO.
Only thing that could disprove it is if Sasuke starts going it too. But then again he could very well be copying madara. So i guess not. IDK im just pondering. Theres so many things that are just wide open right now. LOL

Of course i also think Naruto is a direct descendant of the first Senju. I think he's more pure blood than Hashirama was. I mean it has to be that way because Madara already said that senju and Uchiha are destined to fight and Sasuke is Uchiha so then Naruto must be senju. Other wise sasuke would be fightingf someone else. Madara said their fight was fated and crap. So to me Naruto has to be senju after all that bull about senju vs uchiha.