Naruto 470 Discussion

[the_philosopher]

Originally Posted by mkreitler

I wondered that, too -- but I don't think Sakura's naive enough to believe her team has enough power to kill him. Besides, if that was her intent, she might as well stick with Shikamaru and the rest.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

oh and also, i don't think they know about sasuke's ms yet, so they're probably vastly underestimating him right now.

[btill9000]

The Genjutsu is the what will bail him out. I believe that Lee could still take Sasuke if not for the Genjutsu. This is why I said they should have a Hyuga, or someone that can deal with the Genjutsu along. I am hoping that someone, other than Naruto, rescues them. It would be interesting to see some none-main character action for a few weeks.

[Marbos]

I have a feeling that Kiba and Sakura is gonna run into Sugetsu and Juugo since they are going to be tracking by scent and they are still in the last spot sasuke was before the fight started. Im not sure if Sasuke and Karrin can be tracked by normal methods now since Madara sent them to an unknown place.

But looks like Killer Bee has his hands full. I wonder if we are going to see Kisame fuse with his sword during this fight. Kisame also seems like a very smart fighter so i dont think Killer bee is gonna win this one unless he has another trick up his sleeves.

[Fatstogey]

Originally Posted by CakeSpoon

I doubt they would kill Sasuke, but I don't necessarily agree that they couldn't. Lee & Kiba are among the strongest of the new generation, Sai is intelligent & powerful enough to fit into Kakashi's team & Sakura.....well, she's mostly useless.

Some would probably die, but Sasuke isn't quite unbeatable yet.

I gotta disagree. Losing to the Kage's and bein given the run around by the 8 tails are a lil different from being hurt/killed Sakura and the like.
Sasuke would let them live on a whim though. but they are certainly no sort of competition for him.

Idk i think sakura's reasoning aside. If Sakura doesn meet up with Sasuke id think shed get herself genjutsu'ed. IDk i guess in my mind its blah blah, what do you understand. Sharingan. Her worst memory played back. Then he plays his for her. Then says "bitch please you cant understand my hatred."

But i also think its just dumb if shes even able to make it to him. I mean i guess if she could hop on sai's bird or something. IDK you got gara lookin for sasuke too. If Sakura gets there first its just super plot kai. I dont care how its written. LOL

Originally Posted by the_philosopher

oh and also, i don't think they know about sasuke's ms yet, so they're probably vastly underestimating him right now.

Well they did know he was supposed to kill Naruto and didnt, to gain power with his sharingan. He did say that doing what Itachi said to gain power was sickening. And they do know he defeated Itachi. And they do know Itachi has a MS. Kakashi knows well. So i they should assume he has a MS.

Not to mention the sole fact of gap in power the last 2 times they met. The last time they met it was like they werent shit. I think he woulda killed all of them. Id assume Sakura has a pretty good guess that Sasuke is quite powerful. As do the rest of her group.

Yea Sasuke coulda just died but what did it take to get him there? And much like the Saiyan hell be stronger when he comes back. lol

[Infinitekaos]

Originally Posted by btill9000

The Genjutsu is the what will bail him out. I believe that Lee could still take Sasuke if not for the Genjutsu. This is why I said they should have a Hyuga, or someone that can deal with the Genjutsu along. I am hoping that someone, other than Naruto, rescues them. It would be interesting to see some none-main character action for a few weeks.

I don't know where you get this idea that all Hyuuga are immune to Genjutsu, but I still don't think they are. They may very well be, but it hasn't been proven or stated either way as we've never seen anyone really try to use a genjutsu on a Hyuuga before, at least I don't remember any such instance.

Ao using the Byakugan was able to see that Danzou was using a technique to control Mifune, but he wasn't being controlled himself. And he said he fought against that technique before when he fought Uchiha Shusui but he probably lost the fight considering Shusui was killed by Itachi, not Ao. It is unknown why Ao lost, but it might have been that technique.

Oh, and if Sakura's group came across Sasuke, they would get they're asses handed to them. I don't like hyping Sasuke any more than Kishi already does, but he did fight 5 Kages relatively well and Sakura's little group of Chuunins is far from Kage level.

[CakeSpoon]

Originally Posted by Infinitekaos

Oh, and if Sakura's group came across Sasuke, they would get they're asses handed to them. I don't like hyping Sasuke any more than Kishi already does, but he did fight 5 Kages relatively well and Sakura's little group of Chuunins is far from Kage level.

Danzo didn't do anything, Gaara did very little, as did the Tsuchikage, so I wouldn't say he fought 5 kages. And I wouldn't say he did too good either, he was in pretty bad shape when Madara saved him.

The chunins aren't really far from kage level either, Kakashi was suggested for kage & seems stronger than Tsunade & he's not a standout in the teams anymore. Relatively recently, people like Shino, Hinata, Temari & Kankuro have shown they wouldn't be completely outclassed by someone on Sasuke's level. They'd probably lose but the 4 of them would give him a fight.

[Zero-sama]

Kisame rocks.

The whole chapter was meh. Kisame saved it at the end at least.

[btill9000]

Originally Posted by Infinitekaos

I don't know where you get this idea that all Hyuuga are immune to Genjutsu, but I still don't think they are. They may very well be, but it hasn't been proven or stated either way as we've never seen anyone really try to use a genjutsu on a Hyuuga before, at least I don't remember any such instance.

LOL who says they are immune? Immunity isn't necessary.

This guy is in a room full of Kage's and he's the only one that realizes Danzou is using a Genjutsu.

Also, Apparently this guy fought Uchiha Shisui and walked away from it, and Shisui would've had two Sharingans.

I am not saying he's immune to Genjutsu, but he has a good track record against it. At the very least, I think this is enough evidence to prove that it would be a reasonable decision to bring an Hyuuga to a fight that will involve strong Genjutsu?

Originally Posted by Infinitekaos

Oh, and if Sakura's group came across Sasuke, they would get they're asses handed to them. I don't like hyping Sasuke any more than Kishi already does, but he did fight 5 Kages relatively well and Sakura's little group of Chuunins is far from Kage level.

Uhhh, the Mizukage kinda oneshotted him? He only survived because he was saved. The only reason the Raikage took damage at all is because he damaged himself...on purpose. Sasuke used every technique he has, and hell even used more than he should have, and he didn't actually damage anyone. I wouldn't call that doing pretty good.

Gaara never really fought him. Danzou hasn't fought him. Tshchukikage never fought him.

[the_philosopher]

Originally Posted by btill9000

The Genjutsu is the what will bail him out. I believe that Lee could still take Sasuke if not for the Genjutsu.

I dunno about that, even if he doesn't just ameratsu him, sasuke's basically lee + all the ninjutsu that lee doesn't have.

Originally Posted by Fatstogey

Well they did know he was supposed to kill Naruto and didnt, to gain power with his sharingan. He did say that doing what Itachi said to gain power was sickening. And they do know he defeated Itachi. And they do know Itachi has a MS. Kakashi knows well. So i they should assume he has a MS.

I'm still not convinced that they know that sasuke as ms, sure he killed itachi, but he didn't gain his ms till he found out the truth about itachi's past (i'm assuming) but only kakashi, naruto and yamato knows that, so only they can infer that sasuke may have gain ms. The rest of them don't know anything about ms and they certainly haven't discussed it yet. So even though he defeated itachi who had ms, it doesn't really seem like a valid reason for assuming he has ms.

Originally Posted by btill9000

Tshchukikage never fought him.

Tshchukikage tried to crushed him with a gigantic cube