Mitt Romney questions London's readiness for Olympics

[ryudo1]

Originally Posted by pumpkin13

You're counter to the OBVIOUS forgery, and how people could break it down into adobe layers was some miserable throw away comment about scanners. Scanners don't scan images into layers. It's as simple as that. That document was not original, and had been heavily modified.

You can test this yourself. Take a document. Scan it with Optical Character Recognition (OCR) turned on, and Adobe Acrobat will take a scanned document and break it out into layers automatically, though it's not perfect and can lead to some strange layers at times (Breaking one word into two separate layers, for example is not uncommon.) Whoever scanned the document simply forgot to turn this setting off or had no idea what it was. It's a much more reasonable explanation than some massive coverup including a Republican governor, a hospital and the doctors and nurses involved in the presidents birth, his parents, and multiple state officials. Again, test it yourself, if you really don't believe it.

Originally Posted by pumpkin13

Why does their story not match up? First it's said that the Hawaii department can't produce it because it was thrown away/destroyed, and then this blatent forgery is produced?

Hawaii has all of their birth certificates on a database now, which is something many states are moving too. When you request a copy, you get a short form, but this form still has all the information required for getting a passport, for example. Now, you cannot request the long form. It's actually illegal in Hawaii. However, an exception was made for President Obama and he was allowed by the state to release the long form.

Well, I think I'm leaving this thread now. Yeah, third time I said it, I know, but this just isn't a productive use of my time.

[Fatstogey]

Originally Posted by TimidObserver

Nope, it's more than that. It goes beyond politics with Obama. Republicans literally hate him. Business owners are literally talking about letting their businesses fail just to make him look bad.

So they didnt make it on their own.

[greg770]

You can test this yourself. Take a document. Scan it with Optical Character Recognition (OCR) turned on, and Adobe Acrobat will take a scanned document and break it out into layers automatically, though it's not perfect and can lead to some strange layers at times (Breaking one word into two separate layers, for example is not uncommon.)

That Nazi bigot Sheriff already addressed this OCR argument. You're in libtard denial for life.

[ryudo1]

Originally Posted by Fatstogey

So they didnt make it on their own.

Obama never said this. The line regarding you didn't build it was referencing roads and bridges, not actual businesses. Conservative sites and fox news edited out the line regarding roads and bridges making it seem like Obama was referencing businesses themselves. This is the actual context of the speech.

"If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet."

With the context, it's far different than just "If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen." This makes it look like Obama was saying you didn't build your own business. He actually was saying that if you own a business, you didn't build the roads and bridges your business relies on. The speech was about the importance of government and how it helped businesses become successful, or rather how businesses have used government services and infrastructure to help them become successful.

Originally Posted by greg770

That Nazi bigot Sheriff already addressed this OCR argument. You're in libtard denial for life.

Why the name calling? How does this help your case at all? I never called anyone a Nazi. I said the argument was racist (Only the one black president has ever had his citizenship questioned. Seems clearly racist to me.). I'll just reiterate what I said. Test it yourself. Scan some documents with OCR on and then open up illustrator. Alternatively, scan it, convert it to a PDF with OCR on. Either way will give you similar results. See if you get more than one layer. You likely will, particularly if there are lines, boxes, stamps, seals, ect. in the document. The entire point of OCR is to split something up into layers. I'm more inclined to believe experts in this technology than Sheriff Arpaio. Arpaio's arguments seems to be that because he can't search within the PDF file, OCR couldn't have been on. You can use scanning software that directly converts to a PDF, and you can disable the searching by text feature when saving the document. You can scan with OCR to get layers. You can delete OCR data too. Since I'm no expert in scanning software, I'll just link you to someone who is an expert with computers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc3b8xVJStU&feature=plcp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yP6Ji97dgQ&feature=plcp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gonqc2Oxj-c&feature=plcp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_ZTgtzK77A&feature=plcp

Also the National Review tested a document of their own. They scanned a one page document, optimized it, and uploaded it. They got similar, seemingly random layers. If you have Illustrator, you can open the document they put up testing the same thing. http://www.nationalreview.com/corner...athan-goulding

Again, I encourage you to test this yourself. It is quite easy to see once you do it yourself.

[The_Heart]

*Coming in here wanting to discuss Olympics...sees what has happened...slowly walks back out.*

[greg770]

Originally Posted by ryudo1

Obama never said this. The line regarding you didn't build it was referencing roads and bridges, not actual businesses. Conservative sites and fox news edited out the line regarding roads and bridges making it seem like Obama was referencing businesses themselves. This is the actual context of the speech.

"If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet."

With the context, it's far different than just "If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen." This makes it look like Obama was saying you didn't build your own business. He actually was saying that if you own a business, you didn't build the roads and bridges your business relies on. The speech was about the importance of government and how it helped businesses become successful, or rather how businesses have used government services and infrastructure to help them become successful.



Why the name calling? How does this help your case at all? I never called anyone a Nazi. I said the argument was racist (Only the one black president has ever had his citizenship questioned. Seems clearly racist to me.). I'll just reiterate what I said. Test it yourself. Scan some documents with OCR on and then open up illustrator. Alternatively, scan it, convert it to a PDF with OCR on. Either way will give you similar results. See if you get more than one layer. You likely will, particularly if there are lines, boxes, stamps, seals, ect. in the document. The entire point of OCR is to split something up into layers. I'm more inclined to believe experts in this technology than Sheriff Arpaio. Arpaio's arguments seems to be that because he can't search within the PDF file, OCR couldn't have been on. You can use scanning software that directly converts to a PDF, and you can disable the searching by text feature when saving the document. You can scan with OCR to get layers. You can delete OCR data too. Since I'm no expert in scanning software, I'll just link you to someone who is an expert with computers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc3b8xVJStU&feature=plcp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yP6Ji97dgQ&feature=plcp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gonqc2Oxj-c&feature=plcp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_ZTgtzK77A&feature=plcp

Also the National Review tested a document of their own. They scanned a one page document, optimized it, and uploaded it. They got similar, seemingly random layers. If you have Illustrator, you can open the document they put up testing the same thing. http://www.nationalreview.com/corner...athan-goulding

Again, I encourage you to test this yourself. It is quite easy to see once you do it yourself.

Go watch that vid I posted with Arpio talking, if you still think that thing is real than take a cock in your mouth and shut the fuck up.

[ryudo1]

Originally Posted by greg770

Go watch that vid I posted with Arpio talking, if you still think that thing is real than take a cock in your mouth and shut the fuck up.

Uh? Are you okay?

[greg770]

Originally Posted by ryudo1

Uh? Are you okay?

My arguments don't come from ignorance, they are generated by doubt and lack of any real investigation by respectable media, as you'd put it. Yes I am okay. It's just people like you annoy me, personally, and we are on net.

Funny thing is, I figured I'm a deather, birther and truther to at least some degree. Bah, now how can I not call you names after that?

[Koshka_Goddess]

okay. this has gone on long enough. if you want to continue to talk about president obama's birth certificate feel free to start a thread on the topic. if you are going to post in this thread, however, you need to discuss the designated topic of mitt romney and his comments bout the london olympics.

if you continue to post here that birther shit i will delete your spammy/off topic post and give infraction.

that is all. carry on.