the key word and one of the main themes of at least the S2 is innovate
You are correct is say that we do not know the full extent of an Innovator's capabilities but u clearly missed my point. Setsuna and Louise will never be Innovators LIKE Ribbons, he is not human!!!!! Whatever Setsuna is becoming, he is becoming a true Innovator spelled out by AS's plan, plain and simple. Although the whole thing with Regene is just getting wierd! I mean i already knew that shem was up to something but I dont know what to make out of it. Im serious, no idea....back to topic......
I think, just as u said that Sunrise is playing on religion, that Sunrise is using the word innovator exactly literal. U know this already! 1st the Innovators themselves have tried to innovate, warp to obtain a different goal, AS's plan. --see definition
An innovator or pioneer (pronounced /ˌpаɪəˈnɪər/) in a general sense is a person or an organization who is one of the first to do something and often opens up a new era for others and achieves an innovation.
QBW will serve the purpose of getting humanity together. (Understanding one another isn't what I would exactly call "innovation".) Because you can hear each other's thoughts, conflict will eventually cease to exist. QBW comes along with becoming an Innovator of some sort in one package.
U again didn't understand me
Innovation is not only applying just to people physically, as in improved senses..etc, but as people(humanity) as a whole! The Change(the innovation) that will sweep the world will be caused, in my opinion by QBW, the catalyst to both the innovation of humankind and the innovation of the world, the same change that they have been talking about since season 1! For example, if we knew each other thoughts then we would have both a better understanding of each other as well as the series up til this point. Soma and AH/HA can use QBW and are not innovators, not even close from what i see! So....just because one can use QBW, doesnt mean that they are true(human) innovators, just not true! The 00-Raiser has Saji in it and he, to my knowledge isnt experiencing the same changes that Setsuna is and he is closer to the GN drives! Maybe it also has something to do with something on a mental level, idk! Now will everyone on earth and in heaven become what Setsuna is becoming ,idk! And even if the are not "innovators", they will still be innovations of their former selves brought on the AS and celestial being, just as the world is currently and has been evolving in the anime! Please respond to take if you have any thoughts!!!!!
Another theme of this gundam series is letting people finally understanding one another and thus ill intent can be identified and dealt away(peacefully) with only true peace remaining!------this is probably brought on by our current era! This understanding will be brought on by, i suspect, QBW, thus is an innovation(a change for the better) of humanity itself! That's pretty literal to me!
Now these are just rants so bare with me but if i understand it correctly Ribbons' purpose was to guide mankind into the new age of the world! If anyone was going to be AS innovators, true innovators it was supposed to be all of mankind! They have already examined/explained that there is no god in this world but setsuna believes that his GUNDAM is GOD and therefor will become a god, at least an angel and that AS is god, or godlike in power becoming the only entity capable of transforming the world into something else. (Thus the innovation of god's plan is complete)
The point on having no god in this world, is Setsuna's own perspective. Sunrise has played enough of religion games, and parodies with all the names. Allelujah, Marie whatever and so on. We know for sure that all humans will eventually have QBW capabilities, but I'm still unsure if all will become Innovators. Anyway, somewhere along the lines.
What i was trying to explain was that in the make believe universe "celestial being" are the angels and AS is GOD. Since Setsuna was mind raped(and possibly just raped by Ali, lol) he has a warped view on religion! I mean who wouldnt seeing as an angelic figure,from celestial being, save his life right before he dies! That would make me believe that whatever i just saw his my lord and savor....i kinda is. So that being said he joined celestial being to become an angel, a being that lives in the heavens(space), to find his GOD/GUNDAM/AS! The whole struggle for Setsuna starts when is is look for his God which would be AS. Now that being said, if one can establish that AS is God, at least in the sense that i'm using him in, then u can use said reasoning to that if AS has a plan, than that plan would in-turn be God's plan. The Innovator Ribbons' group is literally tryin to innovate that plan made by GOD.........Thus sunrise is playing with religion like we both said!
To other thing in ur quote that bothered me was about QBW cab.......when did i say anything about them! Hell if i know what they are. Could be anything, not going to speculate on it cause we'll be wrong one way or another! Nobody has an idea on that one, well at least one that actually had evidence to back up claim that is I have actually seen/read!Please respond to take if you have any thoughts!!!!!