gundam 00 2nd season - Page 90

overdrive_king · #**891** 12-09-2008, 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cracker

the squared is not the normal output its the theoretical output hey said he passed at the end.

All I have to say in response to that..........00-Raizer.......is GOD!!!!!
IT DEFIES ALL ODDS!!!!!

Cracker · #**892** 12-09-2008, 10:42 AM

LMAO compare the beam sabers on these models...and keep in mind they're from the same model line and scale lol.

00-raiser

trans am 00-raiser

...if u haven't noticed...its SLIGHTLY bigger lol. like i said greater output means absurd speed and weapons power. the beams are so big they have to have a STAND to hold them up LOL

in other news 0-raiser and gn-archer combine WITH EACH OTHER too

justin43 · #**893** 12-09-2008, 11:29 AM

What the . . .?

Looks like 00-raizer beats any recent gundam(Freedom and other seed MS). The beams on the trans-arm version is insanely long. I guess i am getting a taste of what some of the older gundam beam sizes were like. I wonder if we will see Wing-sized blasts in the normal version of 00-raizer or is it just for trans-arm.

It appears that CB will become a dormant force once again or at least for the next 5 episodes.

Cracker · #**894** 12-09-2008, 11:53 AM

i've been thinking it for a while but an innovator is probably gonna die in the next episode if the 00-raiser launches.

they introduced the garanzo to show the 00 wasn't that great of a suit, now to show how great a suit the 00-raiser is they'll have him kill or at minimum pwn the garanzo.

i didn't think the gn-archer + arios (they gotta have a name for that unit...GN-arios?) would launch till later tho...and i sure didn't think hallelujah would be back at this point. but as a result they may show how uber THAT new unit is by taking out the gadessa too.

garanzo is a close combat suit, as is the 00...so they fight 00-raiser wins to show how much 00 has improved. bring probably dies.

gadessa is a long range dick cannon suit, arios with the archer (supposedly super sized tailbooster) probably has twin dick cannons like in s1 with the tail booster. to show how uber the new combo unit is, arios obviously wins. hallelujah will likely come out and kill revive just to give hallelujah fanboys a joygasm, AND show allelujah is back to his old skill levels from s1. (if they do the team work of the two personalities like the end of s1 crackers gonna need to change his pants btw).

...short version....i think we're about to have two innovators die in the next ep.

justin43 · #**895** 12-09-2008, 12:22 PM

Interesting point, Cracker. I also believe that the garanzo will be destroyed in the next episode if it attempts to fight 00-Raizer. I also believe that the super weapon that was fired last episode will have a very short life span(1 or 2 episodes). However, Hallelujah may want to fight the garanzo since it may give a super soldier reaction that would trigger Hallelujah's blood lust. It don't seem that Revive will be of much interest to Hallelujah. Either way, the garanzo is definitely going to be destroyed or pwned in the next episode.

Cracker · #**896** 12-09-2008, 01:04 PM

there is no such thing as a super soldier reaction...what triggers hallelujah is quantum brain waves which regene said ALL innovators have. so he'd be attracted to both of them if anything.

and i don't think hallelujah or revive is going to attack out of something personal any more than setsuna and bring will. but the 00 is the best suit to take on the garanzo...taking on a close combat suit in close combat is suicide, if ur not also a close combat suit. the 00 is the only close combat suit in CB's current arsenal. taking a close combat suit on from a distance is the best idea; the garanzo however, is too fast imo for u to try to have cherudim or seravee take it on...he'd get close before they could hit it, making it close combat and they're boned. arios vs garanzo would be more like a high speed chase than a fight.

similarly the gadessa is a long range support suit much like seravee. a seravee vs gadessa fight would be boring as hell as they just arc fire over at each other, cherudim is a sniper suit...it could work but probably not the best matchup. the arios on the other hand can bum rush close in MA mode and take away the long range part...gadessa loses its biggest strenght, long rage fire.

i picked the matchups not by accident, but by whos best suited to take on who...and who/what needs its level shown. the 00-raiser needs to show off how powerful it is, as does the gn archer-arios, and allelujah needs to show he's back at his best. 2 innovators, 2 units with something to prove...more than likely that will be the matchups. and more than likely death will be what "proves" the strength of the new CB combo suits, and confirms allelujah is back at his prime.

Meta · #**897** 12-09-2008, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cracker

there is no such thing as a super soldier reaction...what triggers hallelujah is quantum brain waves which regene said ALL innovators have. so he'd be attracted to both of them if anything.

The whole quantum brain waves' reaction of Marie upon the Innovators
I wonder if we'll learn anything more about the Innovators' nature until the end

justin43 · #**898** 12-09-2008, 01:18 PM

Cracker, I knew it was quantum brain waves. I was referring to that when I said "super soldier reaction". Anyway, I see your point about the matchups. I am also wondering what type of suit that "Mr. Bushido" is going to get that would be able to match 00-raizer.

Cracker · #**899** 12-09-2008, 02:12 PM

graham is obviously gonna get a close combat suit. judging from the gn flag and the custom ahead it will have a beam saber that can/is tied directly to its gn drive. giving him a big ass beam saber to come close in power to the 00 raiser's absurd beam saber-gn swords.

they don't have access to twin drive squared output capability, but the trilobite had more than one gn drive...i'm wondering if grahams will do that too, to up his capabilities against the now absurd trans am 00-raiser. (trans am 00-raiser has more than 4x the output of a true gn drive, so at least with 2 drives graham has 2x the power of a false drive...not ideal but its better than nothing.)

i REALLY liked the design of the flags, so i'm hoping it has flag influences in it. and for the speed graham wants it probably will have light armor like the flag.

i also wonder if the gold particle emiting drive alejandro had is a different form of gn drive than the red versions (and from the shock of the garanzo's red drive making a gn field when alejandro did it in s1, that probably is the case). and if so will they start to appear and be used on grahams unit?

cuz as it stand trans am 00-raiser is gonna be an i-win-button (and i assume its only gonna be ridico-uber in trans am). thats gonna make any major battle at the end anti-climactic when setsuna just goes trans am and pwns everyone. zomg the final fight between graham and setsuna!!!...oh he went trans am, aaaaaand its over....lol. even tho its only a temporary uber mode that he can't do forever...they gotta do something to keep the score even or this is about to get real boring on setsunas end lol. at least in s1 when trans am was still an i win button, they had to work for it...setsuna would just rape anyone now in a half second tho in trans am.

either arche's speed of fangs is gonna become a common thing, multi-drives will be used a lot, or the gold drives are gonna be something different and re-introduced...or its gonna go bleach style where power levels are erratic and non-sensical.

Gohan · #**900** 12-09-2008, 02:13 PM

I'm curios as to Marie's reaction to Hallelujah. And if Hallelujah is back those this mean that Soma Peires is back too? Either way I agree with Cracker, 2 Innovaters are going to get their asses handed to them aswell as that large laser.

#892 12-09-2008, 10:42 AM
Cracker your god Kidoushuu Join Date: May 2007 Location: wherever the government puts me Age: 29 Posts: 1,327 Gender: Blog Entries: 12	LMAO compare the beam sabers on these models...and keep in mind they're from the same model line and scale lol. 00-raiser trans am 00-raiser ...if u haven't noticed...its SLIGHTLY bigger lol. like i said greater output means absurd speed and weapons power. the beams are so big they have to have a STAND to hold them up LOL in other news 0-raiser and gn-archer combine WITH EACH OTHER too

#893 12-09-2008, 11:29 AM
justin43 Remembering Jiraiya Elite Quincy Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Somewhere above looking over. Age: 24 Posts: 2,613 Gender:	What the . . .? Looks like 00-raizer beats any recent gundam(Freedom and other seed MS). The beams on the trans-arm version is insanely long. I guess i am getting a taste of what some of the older gundam beam sizes were like. I wonder if we will see Wing-sized blasts in the normal version of 00-raizer or is it just for trans-arm. It appears that CB will become a dormant force once again or at least for the next 5 episodes.

#894 12-09-2008, 11:53 AM
Cracker your god Kidoushuu Join Date: May 2007 Location: wherever the government puts me Age: 29 Posts: 1,327 Gender: Blog Entries: 12	i've been thinking it for a while but an innovator is probably gonna die in the next episode if the 00-raiser launches. they introduced the garanzo to show the 00 wasn't that great of a suit, now to show how great a suit the 00-raiser is they'll have him kill or at minimum pwn the garanzo. i didn't think the gn-archer + arios (they gotta have a name for that unit...GN-arios?) would launch till later tho...and i sure didn't think hallelujah would be back at this point. but as a result they may show how uber THAT new unit is by taking out the gadessa too. garanzo is a close combat suit, as is the 00...so they fight 00-raiser wins to show how much 00 has improved. bring probably dies. gadessa is a long range dick cannon suit, arios with the archer (supposedly super sized tailbooster) probably has twin dick cannons like in s1 with the tail booster. to show how uber the new combo unit is, arios obviously wins. hallelujah will likely come out and kill revive just to give hallelujah fanboys a joygasm, AND show allelujah is back to his old skill levels from s1. (if they do the team work of the two personalities like the end of s1 crackers gonna need to change his pants btw). ...short version....i think we're about to have two innovators die in the next ep.

#895 12-09-2008, 12:22 PM
justin43 Remembering Jiraiya Elite Quincy Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Somewhere above looking over. Age: 24 Posts: 2,613 Gender:	Interesting point, Cracker. I also believe that the garanzo will be destroyed in the next episode if it attempts to fight 00-Raizer. I also believe that the super weapon that was fired last episode will have a very short life span(1 or 2 episodes). However, Hallelujah may want to fight the garanzo since it may give a super soldier reaction that would trigger Hallelujah's blood lust. It don't seem that Revive will be of much interest to Hallelujah. Either way, the garanzo is definitely going to be destroyed or pwned in the next episode.

#896 12-09-2008, 01:04 PM
Cracker your god Kidoushuu Join Date: May 2007 Location: wherever the government puts me Age: 29 Posts: 1,327 Gender: Blog Entries: 12	there is no such thing as a super soldier reaction...what triggers hallelujah is quantum brain waves which regene said ALL innovators have. so he'd be attracted to both of them if anything. and i don't think hallelujah or revive is going to attack out of something personal any more than setsuna and bring will. but the 00 is the best suit to take on the garanzo...taking on a close combat suit in close combat is suicide, if ur not also a close combat suit. the 00 is the only close combat suit in CB's current arsenal. taking a close combat suit on from a distance is the best idea; the garanzo however, is too fast imo for u to try to have cherudim or seravee take it on...he'd get close before they could hit it, making it close combat and they're boned. arios vs garanzo would be more like a high speed chase than a fight. similarly the gadessa is a long range support suit much like seravee. a seravee vs gadessa fight would be boring as hell as they just arc fire over at each other, cherudim is a sniper suit...it could work but probably not the best matchup. the arios on the other hand can bum rush close in MA mode and take away the long range part...gadessa loses its biggest strenght, long rage fire. i picked the matchups not by accident, but by whos best suited to take on who...and who/what needs its level shown. the 00-raiser needs to show off how powerful it is, as does the gn archer-arios, and allelujah needs to show he's back at his best. 2 innovators, 2 units with something to prove...more than likely that will be the matchups. and more than likely death will be what "proves" the strength of the new CB combo suits, and confirms allelujah is back at his prime.

#898 12-09-2008, 01:18 PM
justin43 Remembering Jiraiya Elite Quincy Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Somewhere above looking over. Age: 24 Posts: 2,613 Gender:	Cracker, I knew it was quantum brain waves. I was referring to that when I said "super soldier reaction". Anyway, I see your point about the matchups. I am also wondering what type of suit that "Mr. Bushido" is going to get that would be able to match 00-raizer.

#899 12-09-2008, 02:12 PM
Cracker your god Kidoushuu Join Date: May 2007 Location: wherever the government puts me Age: 29 Posts: 1,327 Gender: Blog Entries: 12	graham is obviously gonna get a close combat suit. judging from the gn flag and the custom ahead it will have a beam saber that can/is tied directly to its gn drive. giving him a big ass beam saber to come close in power to the 00 raiser's absurd beam saber-gn swords. they don't have access to twin drive squared output capability, but the trilobite had more than one gn drive...i'm wondering if grahams will do that too, to up his capabilities against the now absurd trans am 00-raiser. (trans am 00-raiser has more than 4x the output of a true gn drive, so at least with 2 drives graham has 2x the power of a false drive...not ideal but its better than nothing.) i REALLY liked the design of the flags, so i'm hoping it has flag influences in it. and for the speed graham wants it probably will have light armor like the flag. i also wonder if the gold particle emiting drive alejandro had is a different form of gn drive than the red versions (and from the shock of the garanzo's red drive making a gn field when alejandro did it in s1, that probably is the case). and if so will they start to appear and be used on grahams unit? cuz as it stand trans am 00-raiser is gonna be an i-win-button (and i assume its only gonna be ridico-uber in trans am). thats gonna make any major battle at the end anti-climactic when setsuna just goes trans am and pwns everyone. zomg the final fight between graham and setsuna!!!...oh he went trans am, aaaaaand its over....lol. even tho its only a temporary uber mode that he can't do forever...they gotta do something to keep the score even or this is about to get real boring on setsunas end lol. at least in s1 when trans am was still an i win button, they had to work for it...setsuna would just rape anyone now in a half second tho in trans am. either arche's speed of fangs is gonna become a common thing, multi-drives will be used a lot, or the gold drives are gonna be something different and re-introduced...or its gonna go bleach style where power levels are erratic and non-sensical.

#900 12-09-2008, 02:13 PM
Gohan Special Ops Soldier Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: California Age: 22 Posts: 972 Gender:	I'm curios as to Marie's reaction to Hallelujah. And if Hallelujah is back those this mean that Soma Peires is back too? Either way I agree with Cracker, 2 Innovaters are going to get their asses handed to them aswell as that large laser. __________________