Rukia Kuchiki vs Momo Hinamori (Read OP)

Waking_Dreamer · #1 01-19-2011, 02:58 PM

A Classic Match-Up

Kido User vs Kido User
Sode no Shirayuki vs Tobiume
Ice Wave vs Fire Ball
Little Girl vs Little Girl
whatever etc.

Location: Streets of Seireitei (have to find each other)
Distance: 200 meters
Starting State: Shikai
SOM: Determined to win
Note: Momo can use her reaitsu hiding kido and web trap kido.

Spoiler:

UIMG · #2 01-20-2011, 12:14 PM

My money's on Momo she rapes Rukia at kido and Rukia sucks enough at zanjutsu for Momo to hold her of long enough to get her with kido and I'd say she's faster

WatermelonRat · #3 01-20-2011, 12:36 PM

Hinamori is a VC, so I'm betting my money on her. In addition, both are skilled at Kido, but Hinamori has consistently been called a master of it, which leads me to believe she is probably better.

*IchiRuki08* · #4 01-20-2011, 02:04 PM

Wasn't this made before?

*shrugs* Anyway.. Rukia wins this (no surprise from me huh?)

Honestly who's shikai is much stronger? Rukia's

Kido? Rukia has done a level 63 followed by 2 others against AA

Momo simply hasn't shown us she's even close to Rukia's level in speed.

Momo has never been in a major fight Allon doesn't count she was raped.. and in the SS arc she only showed a few kido skills.

So we've seen what? 5 kido spells from her in the whole series yet where supposed to say she's a kido expert? Sorry not buying it.

Rukia has her beat in Kido, Shikai Rukia rapes her and 1st or 2nd dance for someone momo's level would kill her...while momo's skikai is a fireball? .....ooooook..

Not going to work against a huge attack like Hakuren its a huge wall of ice...momo's level of shikai attack won't be able to stop it.

Also after the timeskip there's no telling how powerful Rukia has gotten. I don't think momo advanced one bit while we know Rukia's power is only going to go up.

Ya have to go by the track record of the character's and momo hasn't shown us shit to leave us to believe she's even close to Rukia's level.

Any points made are well...pointless and just a matter of option.

We know momo hasn't shown us anything to leave us to believe she can take Rukia. Lets just be honest and actually compared to what we've seen the character's do.

We know not all VC's are equal so don't give me the VC level option and say she has to be stronger because of that. VC's just need a shikai and have a high skill level.

Rukia isn't ranked at all because her brother wanted it that way. She's a special case. Not ranked but easily a VC level.

Most VC's would have lost to the tree guy in HM yet Rukia beat him easily.

Oh I'm just going on. Be honest with yourselfs and realize even with some of you hating Rukia... this is freaking momo where talking about.... lol..

Aizen's pawn..who's thrown a fireball with shikai and done some kido spells in SS arc and HM arc.. only to get stabbed again in 2 arcs kinda dumb like..

Rukia has always fought like a warrior and a shinigami like her brother has taught her by example and her VC kaien taught her..

Ok... I'll stop now.. lol... Rukia wins easily..

UIMG · #5 01-20-2011, 02:13 PM

biased

*IchiRuki08* · #6 01-20-2011, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by UIMG

biased

Doesn't matter its the truth. Momo hasn't shown us anything that would make her win against Rukia.

This is like the urohana effect. She hasn't done ANYTHING in the series yet because of that shingami stat chart she's stronger then say.... Gin was.

Sorry but until the character actually win's battles they shouldn't be matched up against anyone that has actually faught and showed us what they got in the series.

Momo has clashed swords with little white haired boy inbetween and one shot KO'ed and thrown her fireball 2 times with her shikai...

and she's done kido to get out of prison and a few times in the HM arc.

Already listed all that Rukia has done. So anything said is just opinion and not based on crazy kubo's facts that he changes every 2 seconds anyway.

Kido experts don't go around getting stabbed in not battle situations all the damn time... lol..

WatermelonRat · #7 01-20-2011, 02:28 PM

Don't forget that Hinamori forced three fraccion into releasing their full power. She's also good enough at concealing herself to evade the notice of a captain.

*IchiRuki08* · #8 01-20-2011, 02:41 PM

fraccion are fraccion though... mostly VC level with a few tricks to level up in power.. Rukia's beaten and stopped bad guys much more powerful then those fraccion lets be honest ^^

Oh ya....Rukia faught a fraccion(D-Roy)... how long was that fight again? ...2 seconds?

She owned him. Momo didn't own anyone nor has she beaten anyone..

Momo would have to do her homework on Rukia as well.. if she doesn't know about 1st dance... that would be the end of her..

Waking_Dreamer · #9 01-20-2011, 02:53 PM

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Most VC's would have lost to the tree guy in HM yet Rukia beat him easily.

Didnt Yammy defeat him?

Also these pages shows she is at least a Kido expert, nothing indicates by the characters in the very own manga that she is a kido noob, quite the opposite.

http://www.mangareader.net/94-622-11...apter-168.html
http://manga.bleachexile.com/bleach-...8-page-17.html

Her stealth kido is top-notch....

And is intelligent enough to mix 3 kidos together like no-one has done before, being the first time herself and pulling it off in the heat of battle.

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Momo would have to do her homework on Rukia as well.. if she doesn't know about 1st dance... that would be the end of her..

And a Kido cloak with a fireball snipe to the head could potentially end Rukia too right? Or if she felt like it lace the area around Rukia with her kido net and make it go boom - the one that tagged and critically injured three fraccions so much so they needed to release to continue fighting.

*IchiRuki08* · #10 01-20-2011, 02:59 PM

Showing me a few pages of like the ONLY things she's done in the series isn't going to help.

And Yammy just showed up when the guy was defeated already and he killed him.

View Poll Results: Which Girl Wins?
Momo	41	49.40%
Draw	7	8.43%
Rukia	35	42.17%
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#1 01-19-2011, 02:58 PM
Waking_Dreamer Academy Student Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: In my room. Age: 27 Posts: 275 Gender:	A Classic Match-Up Kido User vs Kido User Sode no Shirayuki vs Tobiume Ice Wave vs Fire Ball Little Girl vs Little Girl whatever etc. Location: Streets of Seireitei (have to find each other) Distance: 200 meters Starting State: Shikai SOM: Determined to win Note: Momo can use her reaitsu hiding kido and web trap kido. Spoiler: I wonder how many supporters there are for Momo on this forum? From what I gathered it seems she would be the underdog here so, I changed the settings to give her a better chance to use her more ambush and recon kido skills. When it comes to: Melee Speed Kido Shikai Endurance Who has the edge? And how much of a factor would that be in the scenario where they have to track and locate each other before fighting...? Last edited by lurch; 01-21-2011 at 05:40 PM

#2 01-20-2011, 12:14 PM
UIMG mysterious man with tambourine Gillian Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Scotland! Posts: 1,848 Gender: Blog Entries: 4	My money's on Momo she rapes Rukia at kido and Rukia sucks enough at zanjutsu for Momo to hold her of long enough to get her with kido and I'd say she's faster __________________

#3 01-20-2011, 12:36 PM
WatermelonRat Long Live Derpy Counsel Members Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Michigan Age: 23 Posts: 4,891 Gender:	Hinamori is a VC, so I'm betting my money on her. In addition, both are skilled at Kido, but Hinamori has consistently been called a master of it, which leads me to believe she is probably better. __________________ Spoiler: Fourth Division Captain Spoiler:

#4 01-20-2011, 02:04 PM
IchiRuki08 Yay Rukia sama! I'm a Counsel Members Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,982	Wasn't this made before? shrugs Anyway.. Rukia wins this (no surprise from me huh?) Honestly who's shikai is much stronger? Rukia's Kido? Rukia has done a level 63 followed by 2 others against AA Momo simply hasn't shown us she's even close to Rukia's level in speed. Momo has never been in a major fight Allon doesn't count she was raped.. and in the SS arc she only showed a few kido skills. So we've seen what? 5 kido spells from her in the whole series yet where supposed to say she's a kido expert? Sorry not buying it. Rukia has her beat in Kido, Shikai Rukia rapes her and 1st or 2nd dance for someone momo's level would kill her...while momo's skikai is a fireball? .....ooooook.. Not going to work against a huge attack like Hakuren its a huge wall of ice...momo's level of shikai attack won't be able to stop it. Also after the timeskip there's no telling how powerful Rukia has gotten. I don't think momo advanced one bit while we know Rukia's power is only going to go up. Ya have to go by the track record of the character's and momo hasn't shown us shit to leave us to believe she's even close to Rukia's level. Any points made are well...pointless and just a matter of option. We know momo hasn't shown us anything to leave us to believe she can take Rukia. Lets just be honest and actually compared to what we've seen the character's do. We know not all VC's are equal so don't give me the VC level option and say she has to be stronger because of that. VC's just need a shikai and have a high skill level. Rukia isn't ranked at all because her brother wanted it that way. She's a special case. Not ranked but easily a VC level. Most VC's would have lost to the tree guy in HM yet Rukia beat him easily. Oh I'm just going on. Be honest with yourselfs and realize even with some of you hating Rukia... this is freaking momo where talking about.... lol.. Aizen's pawn..who's thrown a fireball with shikai and done some kido spells in SS arc and HM arc.. only to get stabbed again in 2 arcs kinda dumb like.. Rukia has always fought like a warrior and a shinigami like her brother has taught her by example and her VC kaien taught her.. Ok... I'll stop now.. lol... Rukia wins easily.. __________________ Click the Spoiler Tag to see the Slayers FC and Custom Banners Spoiler: Click my Rukia IchiRuki08 banner to Watch My Bleach AMV -Bleach Agony- Last edited by IchiRuki08; 01-20-2011 at 02:05 PM

#5 01-20-2011, 02:13 PM
UIMG mysterious man with tambourine Gillian Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Scotland! Posts: 1,848 Gender: Blog Entries: 4	biased __________________

#7 01-20-2011, 02:28 PM
WatermelonRat Long Live Derpy Counsel Members Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Michigan Age: 23 Posts: 4,891 Gender:	Don't forget that Hinamori forced three fraccion into releasing their full power. She's also good enough at concealing herself to evade the notice of a captain. __________________ Spoiler: Fourth Division Captain Spoiler:

#8 01-20-2011, 02:41 PM
IchiRuki08 Yay Rukia sama! I'm a Counsel Members Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,982	fraccion are fraccion though... mostly VC level with a few tricks to level up in power.. Rukia's beaten and stopped bad guys much more powerful then those fraccion lets be honest ^^ Oh ya....Rukia faught a fraccion(D-Roy)... how long was that fight again? ...2 seconds? She owned him. Momo didn't own anyone nor has she beaten anyone.. Momo would have to do her homework on Rukia as well.. if she doesn't know about 1st dance... that would be the end of her.. __________________ Click the Spoiler Tag to see the Slayers FC and Custom Banners Spoiler: Click my Rukia IchiRuki08 banner to Watch My Bleach AMV -Bleach Agony-

#10 01-20-2011, 02:59 PM
IchiRuki08 Yay Rukia sama! I'm a Counsel Members Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,982	Showing me a few pages of like the ONLY things she's done in the series isn't going to help. And Yammy just showed up when the guy was defeated already and he killed him. __________________ Click the Spoiler Tag to see the Slayers FC and Custom Banners Spoiler: Click my Rukia IchiRuki08 banner to Watch My Bleach AMV -Bleach Agony-